We’ve been using QB 2000 for about 3 years now in our small consulting business. We have about 40 clients entered, each with multiple jobs. We have only one employee who maintains time sheets. We have never really been happy with QB but we need to either upgrade (tax tables updates no longer available for QB 2000) or switch. When I suggest switching to another program, my partner asks, "Are you crazy?" since we’re basically set-up and functioning with QB. Anyone have thoughts or suggestions to share with us in this matter? Thanks in advance. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–
We’ve been using QB 2000 for about 3 years now in our small consulting business. We have about 40 clients entered, each with multiple jobs. We have only one employee who maintains time sheets. We have never really been happy with QB but we need to either upgrade (tax tables updates no longer available for QB 2000) or switch. When I suggest switching to another program, my partner asks, "Are you crazy?" since we’re basically set-up and functioning with QB. Anyone have thoughts or suggestions to share with us in this matter? Thanks in advance.
Peachtree has advantages for businesses with inventories, also, you can "edit" the payroll tax tables manually with Peachtree (they still advise you to upgrade each year) Switching accounting programs requires some
I get rather disgusted with QB. One of the things in Peachtree that is really nice is the journal feature which lets you see exactly which accounts are being used. List exports for things like mailings is also much better. I’d say that the job costing will also be better then QB. The time management section has a feature that looks good but really isn’t practical. If you were starting from scratch Peachtree would definitly be the better way to go. It is a little harder to get up and running on, but once over that a lot more power. Changing is always a pain. I’d look and consider if you are going to need a much more powerful program in the near future. Neither QB or Peachtree meet midrange standards or are likely to. I’ve descriptions of a number of accounting packages in my website. Bill Couture http:\www.sbtbill.com
Yes I have another thought .. there is a stand alone payroll program www.medlin.com offers. Peachtree is a great program too but they charge for payroll updates in newer versions too. This might be a help to you. You can use a journal entry to enter the payroll from an external program. I==== I use excel to enter weekly pay, summarize it for the month, then enter the monthly pay for each employee in Medlin. However, I am doing after-the-fact accounting for payroll. If I were doing the whole thing starting with hours worked, and determining amounts to be withheld, I would go straight into Medlin. If you have a large number of employees, it might be better to get a faster program. Medlin is a little awkward for me for after-the-fact pay since my clients calculate withholding which often does not agree with Medlin’s calculation and I have to replace the calculated figures. If I hit the enter button instead of moving to a position with the mouse, it records the pay as-is. Then I have to go thru a difficult job of browsing until I can find the employee and correct it. For my purposes, Medlin does the job very well and I can’t justify the expense of a more elaborate program.
In Ontario only, at the moment. There was a bill passed on Dec. 5 which changes that. They are in the process of developing a list of requirements. See the following link to an article on the CGA Ontario website regarding the changes: http://www.cga-ontario.org/newfiles/media/releases/releases/02-2003-6… — Stephanie Serba, AICIA Partner, Durham Business Outsource Bookkeeping & Technology www.dbo.ca
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So CMA’s can sign off on audited financial statements in Canada? News to me. I believe in Ontario is the last place where CGA’s or CMA’s cannot YET sign off on audited financial statements. However, on Dec. 5 that changed. The law now allows for this, but the requirements to obtain the license are currently being prepared by a University of Toronto professor.
How valuable is the CPA certificate in Canada ?
How valuable is the CPA certificate in Canada ?
Not terribly; it will typically /not/ allow you to sign off on audits and similar accounting engagements, and the locals are generally looking for CAs, who /do/ have that ability in all jurisdictions, or perhaps CGAs, who have the ability in many jurisdictions. — http://cbbrowne.com/info/linuxdistributions.html Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. -Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949
How valuable is the CPA certificate in Canada ?
Pretty much useless. Unless you are working for a multinational company with extensive operations in the UAS. A CA (Chartered Accountant) is Canada equilivent to a CPA. — Regards, Mark X Rigotti
I believe in Ontario is the last place where CGA’s or CMA’s cannot YET sign off on audited financial statements. However, on Dec. 5 that changed. The law now allows for this, but the requirements to obtain the license are currently being prepared by a University of Toronto professor. — Stephanie Serba, AICIA (future CGA) Partner, Durham Business Outsource Bookkeeping & Technology www.dbo.ca
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How valuable is the CPA certificate in Canada ? Not terribly; it will typically /not/ allow you to sign off on audits and similar accounting engagements, and the locals are generally looking for CAs, who /do/ have that ability in all jurisdictions, or perhaps CGAs, who have the ability in many jurisdictions. — http://cbbrowne.com/info/linuxdistributions.html Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. -Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949
So CMA’s can sign off on audited financial statements in Canada? News to me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I believe in Ontario is the last place where CGA’s or CMA’s cannot YET sign off on audited financial statements. However, on Dec. 5 that changed. The law now allows for this, but the requirements to obtain the license are currently being prepared by a University of Toronto professor.
If you are not looking to get a public accounting licence, not looking to sign audit reports, and not looking to immediately dive into Canadian tax work, then many employers are quite aware that a CPA is approximately comparable to a CA. I’ve known a few CPAs working quite successfully in Canada – as well as Australian and Canadian and UK CAs working in the US and other countries as Accounting Managers, Controllers, Treasurers. Some Canadian public accounting firms may be quite interested in hiring a CPA for US tax work.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How valuable is the CPA certificate in Canada ? Not terribly; it will typically /not/ allow you to sign off on audits and similar accounting engagements, and the locals are generally looking for CAs, who /do/ have that ability in all jurisdictions, or perhaps CGAs, who have the ability in many jurisdictions.
Could anyone direct me towards an "Oil and Gas production" accounting course that can be undertaken via distance learning (online or print)? Thank you.
On Sunday 15 September 2002 22:01, kl shouted from the highest mountain: Could anyone direct me towards an "Oil and Gas production" accounting course that can be undertaken via distance learning (online or print)? Thank you.
I don’t know of any courses dovoted specifically to this, but depletion accounting is a topic covered in any intermediate accounting sequence. Check with your nearby colleges/universities to see if they offer any distance learning accounting courses. — Todd Stephens
The Petroleum Accountants’ Society has some good publications. Call the accounting dept of any oil company (or their auditing dept) and they can tell you. The organization is refered to as COPAS. I forget what the CO stands for.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On Sunday 15 September 2002 22:01, kl shouted from the highest mountain: Could anyone direct me towards an "Oil and Gas production" accounting course that can be undertaken via distance learning (online or print)? Thank you. I don’t know of any courses dovoted specifically to this, but depletion accounting is a topic covered in any intermediate accounting sequence. Check with your nearby colleges/universities to see if they offer any distance learning accounting courses. — Todd Stephens
This came to my e-mail instead of being posted to the group: http://www.copas.org/ they have a certification program, and they sell study materials for that certiification program
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Petroleum Accountants’ Society has some good publications. Call the accounting dept of any oil company (or their auditing dept) and they can tell you. The organization is refered to as COPAS. I forget what the CO stands for.
Thank you all for the responses. I have also located a group in Canada called CAPPA. Thanks again.
I’m having difficulties trying to figure out how to import journal entries into Simply Version 7. The help file does not seem to help. It says: The file must be in text format, and the first line must include:
I am looking for a website that gives information on industry standards ,so that I can compare a companies financial accounts with the Industry average ,does anybody know of such a site or where I can obtain this sort of information ?
and which industry? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :I am looking for a website that gives information on industry standards ,so :that I can compare a companies financial accounts with the Industry average Dear Philip, For which country? All the best, Timo — Prof. Timo Salmi ftp & http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ archives 193.166.120.5 Department of Accounting and Business Finance ; University of Vaasa Acc. Journals Links http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/opas/jott/jottjour.html
:I am looking for a website that gives information on industry standards ,so :that I can compare a companies financial accounts with the Industry average Dear Philip, For which country? All the best, Timo — Prof. Timo Salmi ftp & http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ archives 193.166.120.5 Department of Accounting and Business Finance ; University of Vaasa Acc. Journals Links http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/opas/jott/jottjour.html
I am looking for a website that gives information on industry standards ,so that I can compare a companies financial accounts with the Industry average ,does anybody know of such a site or where I can obtain this sort of information ?
http://www.rmahq.com/Ann_Studies/asstudies.html — Jim Hudspeth, CPA – http://home.att.net/~jdhcpa/mainpage.html – Washington, USA Associate Member, Association of Certified Fraud Examiners
: :I am looking for a website that gives information on industry standards : For which country? :and which industry? That’s usually slightly easier. E.g. take Standard & Poor’s Compustat for the U.S. and you have firms from all the industries. Incidentally, industry standards are occasionally overrated as benchmarks: http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/publicat/tytyabs.html http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/publicat/rdts.html All the best, Timo — Prof. Timo Salmi ftp & http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ archives 193.166.120.5 Department of Accounting and Business Finance ; University of Vaasa Acc. Journals Links http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/opas/jott/jottjour.html
I would like to get information on sites where i can learn about the u.s gaap
aicpa.org I would like to get information on sites where i can learn about the u.s gaap
– Kirt S. Cathey Manager – Consulting Department Ernst & Young, LLP Backoffice Accounting Systems IRC, ICQ Handle: Numberman
and fasb.org – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – aicpa.org I would like to get information on sites where i can learn about the u.s gaap — Kirt S. Cathey Manager – Consulting Department Ernst & Young, LLP Backoffice Accounting Systems IRC, ICQ Handle: Numberman
www.aicpa.org – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would like to get information on sites where i can learn about the u.s gaap
And don’t forget to bring your credit card. and fasb.org aicpa.org I would like to get information on sites where i can learn about the u.s gaap
Before you buy.
My company is looking into replacing the Accounting system. We’d like something that has all regular accounting capabilities (A/P, A/R, P/R, etc.) but also Point of Sale and report capabilities. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks MLindsey
What does your organization do, how large are you, what are you using now? We need more information otherwise the answer could be anywhere between Quickbooks to SAP.
My company is looking into replacing the Accounting system. We’d like something that has all regular accounting capabilities (A/P, A/R, P/R, etc.) but also Point of Sale and report capabilities. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks MLindsey
POS is a real can of worms — be very careful not to trap yourself into inferior accy modules just to have an "integrated system". Waaaaaayyyy more often than not — your better off with separate POS and Accy packages.
We recommend, sell and support UA Corporate Accounting 5.5, which has both file-server and client-server systems. I can arrange a demo at your convenience. Respectfully, - Carl Dick 800-997-7944 www.cpaccess.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My company is looking into replacing the Accounting system. We’d like something that has all regular accounting capabilities (A/P, A/R, P/R, etc.) but also Point of Sale and report capabilities. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks MLindsey
I can’t imagine a system where non-integrated is preferable to integrated. This appears to suggest that stand alone cash registers have some future. I remember about 23 years ago, managing an electronic store ( similar to Radio Shack). I had to spend at least an hour after closing every night to reconcile the register with the receipts. I definitely favor the modern cash registers or at least a PC with a cash drawer, with bar code and integrated credit card authorization. I would tie this into Inventory and Purchase Order. A little technology goes a long way. Respectfully, - Carl Dick 800-997-7944 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -POS is a real can of worms — be very careful not to trap yourself into inferior accy modules just to have an "integrated system". Waaaaaayyyy more often than not — your better off with separate POS and Accy packages.
My company just changed over to Real World Accounting Software. It has all the features you just mentioned and some you didn’t (like Order Entry). It’s really easy to use and you only pay for the features you need. We went through By The Book Business Services at 818/343-0847. If you would like any more info or advice about how I like the system, please feel free to e-mail me. Good luck in your search. My company is looking into replacing the Accounting system. We’d like something that has all regular accounting capabilities (A/P, A/R, P/R, etc.) but also Point of Sale and report capabilities. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks MLindsey
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Michael, Look into Passport Software Inc., "POS" system – fully integrated w/RealWorld general acctg., quite flexible and pretty easy to use (see response from jenny_country). And, of course seek an integrated system!!! Good Luck.. Howard F. Bliss, CDP ( Passport Software, Inc. – www.pass-port.com ) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My company is looking into replacing the Accounting system. We’d like something that has all regular accounting capabilities (A/P, A/R, P/R, etc.) but also Point of Sale and report capabilities. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks MLindsey
What normally happens is that someone develops a great POS system, but spends very little time with accounting (i.e., GL, payroll, etc.), so to get needed functionality in one area you sacrifice it in another. Get a great POS system that is based on industry standards and has an open architecture and get an accounting package that meets your needs and tie the two together is the best bet. Alan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t imagine a system where non-integrated is preferable to integrated. This appears to suggest that stand alone cash registers have some future. I remember about 23 years ago, managing an electronic store ( similar to Radio Shack). I had to spend at least an hour after closing every night to reconcile the register with the receipts. I definitely favor the modern cash registers or at least a PC with a cash drawer, with bar code and integrated credit card authorization. I would tie this into Inventory and Purchase Order. A little technology goes a long way. Respectfully, – Carl Dick 800-997-7944 POS is a real can of worms — be very careful not to trap yourself into inferior accy modules just to have an "integrated system". Waaaaaayyyy more often than not — your better off with separate POS and Accy packages.
How large is your company? My company is looking into replacing the Accounting system. We’d like something that has all regular accounting capabilities (A/P, A/R, P/R, etc.) but also Point of Sale and report capabilities. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks MLindsey
My company is looking into replacing the Accounting system. We’d like something that has all regular accounting capabilities (A/P, A/R, P/R, etc.) but also Point of Sale and report capabilities. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks MLindsey
|http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/advance/index.htm | |You send them your chip, they reprogram it to what ever milage you want and |then you reinstall it. | |Works great. Thanks. I had already been to that site before I posted my original message here. They said they’re waiting for the new cluster on the 99 GM truck/suv’s to test their system on. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.
|You really are a dumb fuck. Just drive backwards everywhere you go! |It’s hell on the neck for the first 3 weeks, I even turned the |transmission and engine around in my 1980 Ford F150 so that I could |have 4 reverse and 1 forward speeds! And, the damned thing is still |under warranty. I have had to put a few miles on it, when I have to |FRONT-IN to a tight parking spot!! Have fun, you STAIN! I’m new here, but it appears you must be the newsgroup dumbass ? Normally I reply to people like you via email, would go through. Your mommy and daddy really should do a better job keeping you off the computer. The typical "pop off then hide behind a fake email address" lamer. What a waste of bandwidth. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.
Well said; very well said… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey, Junior…. You were the one who came here asking for information on how to commit a crime. If no one wants to get their ass into hot water to help you, is that a reason to tell us that we ‘don’t know anything’? And as gently as I can, may I suggest that you go to your room and sulk, little boy. Regards, GG |I do believe the speedo is much more than that. I think it’s tied to the |throttle position sensor, engine vacuum and on and on……. The computer |uses the speedo to look up fuel and ignition curves in the prom. I suspect |if you disconnect it you will render your vehicle useless and have to take |it to the dealer to get the computer reset. They’ll know what you did, too. There is a computer that monitors the transmission. The speedo is wired off that computer. It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked. Usually newsgroups are a great source of experienced information, not the case here. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.
Blake: I’m still curious. What is the "convenience" factor you mentioned in being able to turn the odo on and off at will? Bob
Hey boy, You really are a dumb fuck. Just drive backwards everywhere you go! It’s hell on the neck for the first 3 weeks, I even turned the transmission and engine around in my 1980 Ford F150 so that I could have 4 reverse and 1 forward speeds! And, the damned thing is still under warranty. I have had to put a few miles on it, when I have to FRONT-IN to a tight parking spot!! Have fun, you STAIN!
"" ""Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos ""on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) "" ""The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to ""turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with ""the old analog odos. "" ""Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? ""So I’ve heard. "" ""hmmm, why don’t you just ask the mechanically inclined person at your ""lease company for help?
TDC of compression stroke. GG
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -You mean, just like you did ? Sorry, never leased (Nor ever will) a vehicle in my life. I simply know because I work at the GM factory here in Oshawa. As you may have figured out by this point is that I have a little bit of knowledge about digital dashboards and mileage accounting systems that you obviously do not. Leases are for idiots. At least we agree on one thing. mistake on my part. My next step will be discussing it with my friends at the Proving Grounds. Uh, Ok.. Sure.
You mean, just like you did ?
Sorry, never leased (Nor ever will) a vehicle in my life. I simply know because I work at the GM factory here in Oshawa. As you may have figured out by this point is that I have a little bit of knowledge about digital dashboards and mileage accounting systems that you obviously do not. Leases are for idiots.
At least we agree on one thing. mistake on my part. My next step will be discussing it with my friends at the Proving Grounds.
Uh, Ok.. Sure.
Contact: http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/advance/index.htm You send them your chip, they reprogram it to what ever milage you want and then you reinstall it. Works great. Cost $200 or $1500.00 for the machine to do it yourself.
That doesn’t make it any more right, nor is OK to be a drug dealer because people smoke crack anyway. — Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/9967/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is not just a matter of being a goody goody. What you are proposing to do is clearly ILLEGAL.. And it likely isn’t as easy as removing a chip anyway. — Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/9967/ So is smoking crack, but people do that anyway, too.
Buddy, if you’re looking for experienced info on this, maybe you should check your local penitentiary? — Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/9967/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – |I do believe the speedo is much more than that. I think it’s tied to the |throttle position sensor, engine vacuum and on and on……. The computer |uses the speedo to look up fuel and ignition curves in the prom. I suspect |if you disconnect it you will render your vehicle useless and have to take |it to the dealer to get the computer reset. They’ll know what you did, too. There is a computer that monitors the transmission. The speedo is wired off that computer. It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked. Usually newsgroups are a great source of experienced information, not the case here. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.
|My guess would be that there is no direct way to prevent the mileage from |accumulating. The LCD on the dash is only a simple display device. It has no |memory of its own. The actual mileage is most logically maintained in the |computer that controls the transmission, since its counting rotations anyway. |Then the display is simply a dumb output device. You can bypass the connection from the transmission to the PCM altogether. |Disconnect the display, and the computer merrily continues counting rotations. |Disconnect the input, and you have much bigger problems. With some systems, yes it can cause problems. With others, it can be done with no problems at all. I’m looking for someone who has "evaluated" this on the re-designed 99 full size trucks to tell me whether or not it can be done. |Now, then, if this assumption is correct, and you can identify the device |which stores the rotation count, replacing it should reset the odo, too. And I’m thinking that would be a chip. Which can also possibly not just be replaced, but also reprogrammed with the right tools. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.
|I know how to do this on a new Dodge truck and suspect it is similar to |the GM. The speed sensor comes off of the transmission just like they |always have only its a 3 wire connector instead of a cable. One wire is |ground, one is the speed sensor wire that goes to the computer for |torque converter lockup etc. and the third wire goes to the instrument |cluster. Disconnecting the entire plug causes the engine to stall when |comming to a stop after the torque converter has locked. This is |because the computer doesn’t know that the truck has stopped. However, |disconnecting, cutting, switching, etc. of the wire that goes to the |instrument cluster had no effect at all on the operation of the truck |except of course the speedo and odometer won’t work. If you were to |find the wire behind the dash and make your changes there it would be |virtually undetectable. I found the wiring info in the electrical |diagrams in the back of the Haynes manual. This being said I have heard |that the computer can also keep track of the milage and the info would |be retrievable via the OBD II port, but I can not verify this. Whoa, hey thanks for the post. Finally someone who can add something useful to the conversation. The wire you’re referring is also the one I’m talking about. This wire can be put on a switch (to turn on and off). The wire can be found, like you said, under the dash or behind the glove compartment. I’ve recently learned that a "Powertrain Control Module" (in GM vehicles) also allocates mileage information as well as the odometer. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.
Replacement of the PCM with a performance/aftermarket PCM while the switch is in the off position would cause the odometer to match the factory computer. In the Dodge the performance computer is a complete changeout, I am not sure whether the GM is a complete changeout or a plug in module that simply connects to the factory computer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The wire you’re referring is also the one I’m talking about. This wire can be put on a switch (to turn on and off). The wire can be found, like you said, under the dash or behind the glove compartment. I’ve recently learned that a "Powertrain Control Module" (in GM vehicles) also allocates mileage information as well as the odometer.
So, out of curiosity: What is the "convenience" of turning the odo on and off whenever you wish? My guess would be that there is no direct way to prevent the mileage from accumulating. The LCD on the dash is only a simple display device. It has no memory of its own. The actual mileage is most logically maintained in the computer that controls the transmission, since its counting rotations anyway. Then the display is simply a dumb output device. Disconnect the display, and the computer merrily continues counting rotations. Disconnect the input, and you have much bigger problems. Now, then, if this assumption is correct, and you can identify the device which stores the rotation count, replacing it should reset the odo, too. Bob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – |There is a computer that monitors the transmission. |The speedo is wired off that computer. | |It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows |what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked. | |If you allready knew, why did you ask? | |And good luck when your leasing company finds out.. And they WILL find |out, I guarentee it. They didn’t just fall off the turnip truck. You mean, just like you did ? I never mentioned that I am leasing a vehicle with an odometer that we’re discussing. Leases are for idiots. Right now I don’t know where the connection is on the new digital odometers to switch and turn on and off at my convenience. Evidently no one else here does either. This NG was simply the first facility I used to find out. Big mistake on my part. My next step will be discussing it with my friends at the Proving Grounds. I asked a simple question, and all I get for responses are a bunch of BS. What a lot of you folks don’t realize is if I post a question and you can’t answer it, then don’t reply AT ALL. You think I don’t know it’s illegal to disconnect the odometer ? DUH…
Blake, I know how to do this on a new Dodge truck and suspect it is similar to the GM. The speed sensor comes off of the transmission just like they always have only its a 3 wire connector instead of a cable. One wire is ground, one is the speed sensor wire that goes to the computer for torque converter lockup etc. and the third wire goes to the instrument cluster. Disconnecting the entire plug causes the engine to stall when comming to a stop after the torque converter has locked. This is because the computer doesn’t know that the truck has stopped. However, disconnecting, cutting, switching, etc. of the wire that goes to the instrument cluster had no effect at all on the operation of the truck except of course the speedo and odometer won’t work. If you were to find the wire behind the dash and make your changes there it would be virtually undetectable. I found the wiring info in the electrical diagrams in the back of the Haynes manual. This being said I have heard that the computer can also keep track of the milage and the info would be retrievable via the OBD II port, but I can not verify this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with the old analog odos. Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? So I’ve heard. Apologies to all the goody goodies on this NG. Don’t flame me too bad. Have a good one… … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.
|There is a computer that monitors the transmission. |The speedo is wired off that computer. | |It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows |what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked. | |If you allready knew, why did you ask? | |And good luck when your leasing company finds out.. And they WILL find |out, I guarentee it. They didn’t just fall off the turnip truck. You mean, just like you did ? I never mentioned that I am leasing a vehicle with an odometer that we’re discussing. Leases are for idiots. Right now I don’t know where the connection is on the new digital odometers to switch and turn on and off at my convenience. Evidently no one else here does either. This NG was simply the first facility I used to find out. Big mistake on my part. My next step will be discussing it with my friends at the Proving Grounds. I asked a simple question, and all I get for responses are a bunch of BS. What a lot of you folks don’t realize is if I post a question and you can’t answer it, then don’t reply AT ALL. You think I don’t know it’s illegal to disconnect the odometer ? DUH…
Hey, Junior…. You were the one who came here asking for information on how to commit a crime. If no one wants to get their ass into hot water to help you, is that a reason to tell us that we ‘don’t know anything’? And as gently as I can, may I suggest that you go to your room and sulk, little boy. Regards, GG – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – |I do believe the speedo is much more than that. I think it’s tied to the |throttle position sensor, engine vacuum and on and on……. The computer |uses the speedo to look up fuel and ignition curves in the prom. I suspect |if you disconnect it you will render your vehicle useless and have to take |it to the dealer to get the computer reset. They’ll know what you did, too. There is a computer that monitors the transmission. The speedo is wired off that computer. It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked. Usually newsgroups are a great source of experienced information, not the case here. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.
There is a computer that monitors the transmission. The speedo is wired off that computer. It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked.
If you allready knew, why did you ask? And good luck when your leasing company finds out.. And they WILL find out, I guarentee it. They didn’t just fall off the turnip truck. — Mark, Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Remove NOSPAM to respond via Email! ICQ# 17308959 www.sledpix.dynip.com
: Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos : on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) : : The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to : turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with : the old analog odos. : : Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? : So I’ve heard. : hmmm, why don’t you just ask the mechanically inclined person at your : lease company for help? Yeah. I mean, when you’re in jail you can’t put any more miles on the vehicle and don’t have to worry about paying extra. ;) — — Hogan Whittall ‘98 XJ
This is not just a matter of being a goody goody. What you are proposing to do is clearly ILLEGAL.. And it likely isn’t as easy as removing a chip anyway. — Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/9967/
So is smoking crack, but people do that anyway, too.
|I do believe the speedo is much more than that. I think it’s tied to the |throttle position sensor, engine vacuum and on and on……. The computer |uses the speedo to look up fuel and ignition curves in the prom. I suspect |if you disconnect it you will render your vehicle useless and have to take |it to the dealer to get the computer reset. They’ll know what you did, too. There is a computer that monitors the transmission. The speedo is wired off that computer. It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked. Usually newsgroups are a great source of experienced information, not the case here. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.
Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with the old analog odos. Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? So I’ve heard.
hmmm, why don’t you just ask the mechanically inclined person at your lease company for help?
I do believe the speedo is much more than that. I think it’s tied to the throttle position sensor, engine vacuum and on and on……. The computer uses the speedo to look up fuel and ignition curves in the prom. I suspect if you disconnect it you will render your vehicle useless and have to take it to the dealer to get the computer reset. They’ll know what you did, too. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with the old analog odos. Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? So I’ve heard. hmmm, why don’t you just ask the mechanically inclined person at your lease company for help?
This is not just a matter of being a goody goody. What you are proposing to do is clearly ILLEGAL.. And it likely isn’t as easy as removing a chip anyway. — Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/9967/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with the old analog odos. Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? So I’ve heard. Apologies to all the goody goodies on this NG. Don’t flame me too bad. Have a good one… … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.
Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with the old analog odos. Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? So I’ve heard. Apologies to all the goody goodies on this NG. Don’t flame me too bad. Have a good one… … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When God made Peace Officers… <snip Finally, the angel bent over and ran her finger across the cheek of the peace officer. "There’s a leak," she pronounced. "I told you that you were trying to put too much into this model." "That’s not a leak," said the lord, "it’s a tear." Anonymous I believe Erma Bombeck was the author of the original version of this piece, it was about Mothers.
Ah! I knew it sounded familiar! Chris
When God made Peace Officers…
<snip Finally, the angel bent over and ran her finger across the cheek of the peace officer. "There’s a leak," she pronounced. "I told you that you were trying to put too much into this model." "That’s not a leak," said the lord, "it’s a tear." Anonymous
I believe Erma Bombeck was the author of the original version of this piece, it was about Mothers. Alison
Hello all, I’m new to the group & looking for x.s. patterns that have a law enforcement theme (police officers, etc). I would also be interested in patterns about fathers & daughters. Thanks in advance for anything you might know of! Cheryl
Hello all, I’m new to the group & looking for x.s. patterns that have a law enforcement theme (police officers, etc). I would also be interested in patterns about fathers & daughters. Thanks in advance for anything you might know of! Cheryl
Cheryl, For my dad’s retirement after 30 years with the Inkster (Michigan) Police Department, I stitched Norman Rockwell’s "The Runaway" for him. It’s the picture of the officer and a little boy sitting next to each other on diner stools – the little boy has a "hobo bag" tied to a string on the floor underneath him. It took me about a year to finish (working on other things, too), but its’ beautiful … I ordered mine from "Marilyn’s Needlework" – (it’s a Stoney Creek pattern) #1-800-346-8411. Hope this helps! Ree ~ Ree May those that love us, love us. Those that don’t love us, may God turn their hearts. If he cannot turn their hearts, may He turn their ankles, so we may know them by their limping. -old Gaelic blessing
Hello all, I’m new to the group & looking for x.s. patterns that have a law enforcement theme (police officers, etc). I would also be interested in patterns about fathers & daughters. Thanks in advance for anything you might know of!
Hi Cheryl, Welcome to RCTN. A good place to look for charts with a particular theme is the Hoffman Distributors web site — www. hoffmandis.com. You can do keywords searches on words like "police" or search on designer names. I do know that Art Ventures has a couple of police charts — also firemen, EMT, etc. Good luck, Chris
Cheryl- I hope you got the list of pattern manes I sent you. Tamara – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hello all, I’m new to the group & looking for x.s. patterns that have a law enforcement theme (police officers, etc). I would also be interested in patterns about fathers & daughters. Thanks in advance for anything you might know of! Cheryl
Cheryl– Thought you might enjoy this. I hope you got the list of name of patterns I knew were related to law enforcement. Tamara When God made Peace Officers… When the Lord was creating peace officers, he was into his sixth day of overtime when an angel appeared and said, "You’re doing a lot of fiddling around on this one." And the Lord said, "Have you read the spec on this order? A peace officer has to be able to run five miles through alleys in the dark, scale walls, enter homes the health inspector wouldn’t touch, and not wrinkle his uniform. "He has to be able to sit in an undercover car all day on a stakeout, cover a homicide scene that night, canvass the neighborhood for witnesses, and testify in court the next day. "He has to be in top physical condition at all times, running on black coffee and half-eaten meals. And he has to have six pairs of hands." The angel shook her head slowly and said, "Six pairs of hands… no way." "It’s not the hands that are causing me problems," said the Lord, "it’s the three pairs of eyes an officer has to have." "That’s on the standard model?" asked the angel. The Lord nodded. One pair that sees through a bulge in a pocket before he asks, "May I see what’s in there, sir?" (When he already knows and wishes he’d taken that accounting job.) "Another pair here in the side of his head for his partners’ safety. And another pair of eyes here in front that can look reassuringly at a bleeding victim and say, ‘You’ll be all right ma’am, when he knows it isn’t so." "Lord," said the angel, touching his sleeve, "rest and work on this tomorrow." "I can’t," said the Lord, "I already have a model that can talk a 250 pound drunk into a patrol car without incident and feed a family of five on a civil service paycheck." The angel circled the model of the peace officer very slowly, "Can it think?" she asked. "You bet," said the Lord. "It can tell you the elements of a hundred crimes; recite Miranda warnings in its sleep; detain, investigate, search, and arrest a gang member on the street in less time than it takes five learned judges to debate the legality of the stop… and still it keeps its sense of humor. This officer also has phenomenal personal control. He can deal with crime scenes painted in hell, coax a confession from a child abuser, comfort a murder victim’s family, and then read in the daily paper how law enforcement isn’t sensitive to the rights of criminal suspects." Finally, the angel bent over and ran her finger across the cheek of the peace officer. "There’s a leak," she pronounced. "I told you that you were trying to put too much into this model." "That’s not a leak," said the lord, "it’s a tear." "What’s the tear for?" asked the angel. "It’s for bottled-up emotions, for fallen comrades, for commitment to that funny piece of cloth called the American flag, for justice." "You’re a genius," said the angel. The Lord looked somber. "I didn’t put it there," he said. Anonymous – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hello all, I’m new to the group & looking for x.s. patterns that have a law enforcement theme (police officers, etc). I would also be interested in patterns about fathers & daughters. Thanks in advance for anything you might know of! Cheryl
The Star Tribune did a study on this and found: "the average ticket price at the Twin Cities airport was 36 percent higher than the national average for comparable flights. For NWA tickets, the price disparity was 38 percent. The comparable premiums in cities where Northwest also has hubs were 12 percent in Detroit and 33 percent in Memphis, Tenn. A 1993 U.S. General Accounting Office study estimated the Twin Cities hub premium at 30 percent." Full text of the article from which the above quote was taken is available at: http://www.startribune.com/stonline/html/ddd/cost16.htm (Note: It is not currently linked off of our home page. The only way to get at it is to use the full URL above — I know this is a problem, but our current site is only a transitory site.)
You think you guys have it bad? I lived for eight years in Duluth. People living there had to drive 150 miles to your city to afford air travel. Flying out of Duluth’s monoply market was reserved for the wealthy. Fortunately I now live in Albuquerque, which is served by about a zillion domestic carriers, including Southwest. Low fares to just about anywhere and nicer weather. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : (Chris Kantzes) writes: : And with the state legislature and : the governer knuckling under to Northwest’s pressure, it will probably : stay that way for a while, as it looks like the hope for a new, modern : Dakota County airport with plenty of gates and runways has been put : on hold. Minneapolis gets no peace from the roaring, old, Northwest : jets, : Well, that’s not entirely true. What about it isn’t true? The govnernor decided categorically to end the dual track study, which wasn’t due to be completed for a year, and decided that the current airport will be expanded. That means no true relief for noise from jets for SW Minneapolis, plain and simple. : The bill passed by the state legislature includes some noise relief : measures for residents who live in the vicinity of MSP. Included in : the bill are: : – a mandate to spend $185 million by 2002 on sound proofing homes and : buildings near MSP and aquiring property around it; Great, but what about people who want to play outside during our brief summers – how can they sound-proof peoples’ yards? And what about people who live just outside the noise zone as currently defined. The jets don’t fly in exactly the same approach path all the time – they tend to wander quite a bit. : – a ban on a "north parallel" runway that would route traffic deeper : into Minneapolis; This does nothing to REDUCE the current noise problems with MSP. That just prevents future increases in noise, and probably will force the Twin Cities to re-visit the question of a new airport in the not too distant future. Face it, MSP as an airport is woefully under-sized, with no real room to grow. : – a law requiring that all aircraft using the airport after the year : 2000 be of the newer and quieter Stage 3 variety, or be equipped : with hush kits in the case of older aircraft. I will believe that when I see it. Northwest was also supposed to build an aircraft service facility in return for the government subsdidies it got – guess what, the aircraft facility, if it ever gets built, will greatly reduced in size and number of jobs it generates. Also, even with the hush-kits/stage 3 engines, take-offs will show little noise reduction. : and Twin City resisdents pay through the nose for the privilege : of being a Northwest hub. Yesterday (4/16), the Star Tribune had an : interesting article describing how bad things are. Worth checking : it out if you can find it. : The article made it into other papers as well via AP. To briefly : summarize, it stated that the average ticket price at MSP was : 36% higher than the national average. Travellers paid $456 million : more than they would have at most other US airports; NW, which : operates more than 80% of the flights at MSP, got a $332 million : slice of that pie. Thanks for quoting the exact figures. I didn’t have the newspaper handy, so I didn’t want to misquote the figures. : NW officials dispute these findings, saying that the study that : led to them ignored the benefits of hub travel, and inaccurately : calculated costs. And yet today, 4/18, they report the largest 1st quarter earnings ever, some $60 million over the same quarter last year. Coincidence? "Als Ik Kan" Minneapolis, MN
: (Chris Kantzes) writes:
: And with the state legislature and : the governer knuckling under to Northwest’s pressure, it will probably : stay that way for a while, as it looks like the hope for a new, modern : Dakota County airport with plenty of gates and runways has been put : on hold. Minneapolis gets no peace from the roaring, old, Northwest : jets, : Well, that’s not entirely true. What about it isn’t true? The govnernor decided categorically to end the dual track study, which wasn’t due to be completed for a year, and decided that the current airport will be expanded. That means no true relief for noise from jets for SW Minneapolis, plain and simple. : The bill passed by the state legislature includes some noise relief : measures for residents who live in the vicinity of MSP. Included in : the bill are: : – a mandate to spend $185 million by 2002 on sound proofing homes and : buildings near MSP and aquiring property around it; Great, but what about people who want to play outside during our brief summers – how can they sound-proof peoples’ yards? And what about people who live just outside the noise zone as currently defined. The jets don’t fly in exactly the same approach path all the time – they tend to wander quite a bit. : – a ban on a "north parallel" runway that would route traffic deeper : into Minneapolis; This does nothing to REDUCE the current noise problems with MSP. That just prevents future increases in noise, and probably will force the Twin Cities to re-visit the question of a new airport in the not too distant future. Face it, MSP as an airport is woefully under-sized, with no real room to grow. : – a law requiring that all aircraft using the airport after the year : 2000 be of the newer and quieter Stage 3 variety, or be equipped : with hush kits in the case of older aircraft. I will believe that when I see it. Northwest was also supposed to build an aircraft service facility in return for the government subsdidies it got – guess what, the aircraft facility, if it ever gets built, will greatly reduced in size and number of jobs it generates. Also, even with the hush-kits/stage 3 engines, take-offs will show little noise reduction. : and Twin City resisdents pay through the nose for the privilege : of being a Northwest hub. Yesterday (4/16), the Star Tribune had an : interesting article describing how bad things are. Worth checking : it out if you can find it. : The article made it into other papers as well via AP. To briefly : summarize, it stated that the average ticket price at MSP was : 36% higher than the national average. Travellers paid $456 million : more than they would have at most other US airports; NW, which : operates more than 80% of the flights at MSP, got a $332 million : slice of that pie. Thanks for quoting the exact figures. I didn’t have the newspaper handy, so I didn’t want to misquote the figures. : NW officials dispute these findings, saying that the study that : led to them ignored the benefits of hub travel, and inaccurately : calculated costs. And yet today, 4/18, they report the largest 1st quarter earnings ever, some $60 million over the same quarter last year. Coincidence? "Als Ik Kan" Minneapolis, MN
(Chris Kantzes) writes: And with the state legislature and the governer knuckling under to Northwest’s pressure, it will probably stay that way for a while, as it looks like the hope for a new, modern Dakota County airport with plenty of gates and runways has been put on hold. Minneapolis gets no peace from the roaring, old, Northwest jets,
Well, that’s not entirely true. The bill passed by the state legislature includes some noise relief measures for residents who live in the vicinity of MSP. Included in the bill are: – a mandate to spend $185 million by 2002 on sound proofing homes and buildings near MSP and aquiring property around it; – a ban on a "north parallel" runway that would route traffic deeper into Minneapolis; – a law requiring that all aircraft using the airport after the year 2000 be of the newer and quieter Stage 3 variety, or be equipped with hush kits in the case of older aircraft. and Twin City resisdents pay through the nose for the privilege of being a Northwest hub. Yesterday (4/16), the Star Tribune had an interesting article describing how bad things are. Worth checking it out if you can find it.
The article made it into other papers as well via AP. To briefly summarize, it stated that the average ticket price at MSP was 36% higher than the national average. Travellers paid $456 million more than they would have at most other US airports; NW, which operates more than 80% of the flights at MSP, got a $332 million slice of that pie. NW officials dispute these findings, saying that the study that led to them ignored the benefits of hub travel, and inaccurately calculated costs. — Jim
: Well, I’ve said it before and not everyone agrees, but from my view, : MSP is the worst big-city market in the country for fares going in or : coming out. Northwest has "fortressed" that hub by dominating it so : much, and fares are way up there as a result (It’s cheaper now to fly : from Atlanta (once a fortress hub itself) to L.A. on a sale fare than : to Minneapolis. Go figure). Other airports like Denver, Charlotte, : Pittsburgh, etc., have similar levels of dominance by other carriers, : but the thing that differentiates MSP, IMHO, is that there isn’t a real : alternative within a reasonable driving distance. I think Northwest is : all too aware of that, I’m afraid. Unfortunately, you are correct. And with the state legislature and the governer knuckling under to Northwest’s pressure, it will probably stay that way for a while, as it looks like the hope for a new, modern Dakota County airport with plenty of gates and runways has been put on hold. Minneapolis gets no peace from the roaring, old, Northwest jets, and Twin City resisdents pay through the nose for the privilege of being a Northwest hub. Yesterday (4/16), the Star Tribune had an interesting article describing how bad things are. Worth checking it out if you can find it. "Als Ik Kan" Minneapolis, MN
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Summer travel this year is expensive. I don’t think there’s an airfare war going on right now, though everybody says there is. Let me tell you about my plight. I need to get back home to Minneapolis. I attend Southern Cal, so I need a round-trip ticket from LAX to MSP, non-stop, for the whole summer. So I hear Northwest is having a sale; right on time. But they quote a price of $750.00!!! ’Scuse me?! They then tell me the sales are for trips with a max. stay of 30 days.
*snip* Well, I’ve said it before and not everyone agrees, but from my view, MSP is the worst big-city market in the country for fares going in or coming out. Northwest has "fortressed" that hub by dominating it so much, and fares are way up there as a result (It’s cheaper now to fly from Atlanta (once a fortress hub itself) to L.A. on a sale fare than to Minneapolis. Go figure). Other airports like Denver, Charlotte, Pittsburgh, etc., have similar levels of dominance by other carriers, but the thing that differentiates MSP, IMHO, is that there isn’t a real alternative within a reasonable driving distance. I think Northwest is all too aware of that, I’m afraid. As for the sales, the airlines have learned their lesson about national fare sales at rock-bottom prices. These days they’re very mild by comparison; if discount carriers already operate the route, in fact, a nationwide "sale" price will really be an increase (i.e. meaningless if big carriers are already matching the discounters). I’ve gotten some extremely good fares this year, but usually they were offered on a very targeted, hit-and-run basis. RC
[LAX-MSP expensive ($750) on NW, $321 on Frontier] Dru So, I have three questions: 1) Is there a summer airfare war going Dru on, and is it to the magnitude of last year; 2) Is it me, or is Dru anyone else wondering why the hell prices for flights like mine Dru aren’t lower; and 3) Well, what the hell should I do? Fly someone else. NW owns MSP, and they know it; that’s why they don’t offer special fares on flights to it (check any NW coupon, it’ll except flights to MSP & DTW, or sometimes even to anywhere in MN or MI). Dru Meanwhile, Frontier Airlines has a stopover flight round-trip for Dru $321.00. Obviously a steal, but I’m brand-loyal (that’s what Dru frequent-flier programs do to you), and I have an inclination to Dru avoid small airlines. Frontier’s not *that* small; they fly jets, after all. If you want there to continue to be competition in MSP, throw off your FF handcuffs and give ‘em a try. Last time I flew to a major fortress hub (CVG) was before I was a DL medallion flyer, so I flew NW via DTW instead of direct in a (successful) attempt to get NW Worldperks Preferred. Of course, then they changed the equipment on the BOS-SEA nonstop and I decided that a connection in CVG or SLC wasn’t so bad after all… and after that NW started dismantling their BOS minihub.
Summer travel this year is expensive. I don’t think there’s an airfare war going on right now, though everybody says there is. Let me tell you about my plight. I need to get back home to Minneapolis. I attend Southern Cal, so I need a round-trip ticket from LAX to MSP, non-stop, for the whole summer. So I hear Northwest is having a sale; right on time. But they quote a price of $750.00!!! ’Scuse me?! They then tell me the sales are for trips with a max. stay of 30 days. OK, I understand now. But what the hell happened? Last year I was in the same predicament, but my parents got tickets for approx. $350.00. That had to be a sale, and that lasted for the entire summer. Now, the cost for the same damn ticket has shot up 250%!!! FYI, my parents are waiting through the weekend in the off-chance Northwest announces a sale concerning trips lasting the entire summer. Meanwhile, Frontier Airlines has a stopover flight round-trip for $321.00. Obviously a steal, but I’m brand-loyal (that’s what frequent-flier programs do to you), and I have an inclination to avoid small airlines. I also have a free trip through Northwest, but I want to save that something really special, like a cruise off the coast during Spring Break. So, I have three questions: 1) Is there a summer airfare war going on, and is it to the magnitude of last year; 2) Is it me, or is anyone else wondering why the hell prices for flights like mine aren’t lower; and 3) Well, what the hell should I do? Thanks in advance. -The Iconoclast This week’s quote, taken from my day planner: "I was thrown out of college for cheating on the metaphysics exam; I looked into the soul of the boy next to me." -Woody Allen