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michael, i did not know that you could get a computer that cheap. i always thought they cost between 300 to 600 dollars. tells you how naive i am oh well. if you move close to chesucat can you take me with you?:-) later anita "gravity" <grav…@example.net> wrote in message

news:_F8rd.11019$Ua.8670@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> pines <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message > news:7a8rd.76482$7i4.32335@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > > michael, > > a computer is expensive or least i think they are. what kind are you going > > to get if you get one? you just moved why are you wanting to move again? > > anita > i want to move into an apartment (within 100 miles of here). later i may > move back to Atlanta (near Chesucat). > a computer is cheap or expensive, it depends. my choices: > $40 shipped — Pentium II surplus > $100 shipped — Pentium III surplus > $230 + shipping — Walmart computer > $300 — computer with AOL contract > $350 + shipping — Dell computer (loan possible) > i don’t know which i will get. i should buy a cheap one, then gradually add > peripherals and drives as money permits. > michael

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pines <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message

news:L49rd.76646$7i4.33529@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > michael, > i did not know that you could get a computer that cheap. i always thought > they cost between 300 to 600 dollars. tells you how naive i am oh well. > if you move close to chesucat can you take me with you?:-) > later anita

yes, you can come live at my apartment. the kitty can over anytime so long as he doesn’t claw my furniture. regards, michael

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gravity wrote: > a computer is cheap or expensive, it depends. my choices: > $40 shipped — Pentium II surplus > $100 shipped — Pentium III surplus > $230 + shipping — Walmart computer > $300 — computer with AOL contract > $350 + shipping — Dell computer (loan possible) > i don’t know which i will get. i should buy a cheap one, then gradually add > peripherals and drives as money permits.

If you plan to upgrade at all, avoid Compaqs, because they can’t be upgraded with generic parts. The parts have to be Compaq. -wl

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"wiggly lumber" <d…@arithmetic.com> wrote in message

news:819rd.13823$kI6.900679@news20.bellglobal.com… > If you plan to upgrade at all, avoid Compaqs, because they can’t be > upgraded with generic parts. The parts have to be Compaq.

All the same, what a fantastic machine Compaq is – I have never come across such a reliable machine as the Compaq.

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pines wrote: > have you done any christmas shopping yet? > just curious. > anita

I haven’t exchanged Christmas presents with anyone in years and years. My family always celebrated the Orthoxod Christmas (January 7th), so, after my brother got old enough to understand, we just treated December 25th like any other day off work or school. This Christmas it would be cool to drive a long distance somewhere, but I’m not sure where. -wl

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michael, thank you but i would be the one clawing the furniture so i guess it wouldn’t work out hey:-) hope you are having a good day michael. later anita "gravity" <grav…@example.net> wrote in message

news:q79rd.11047$Ua.2139@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> pines <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message > news:L49rd.76646$7i4.33529@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > > michael, > > i did not know that you could get a computer that cheap. i always thought > > they cost between 300 to 600 dollars. tells you how naive i am oh well. > > if you move close to chesucat can you take me with you?:-) > > later anita > yes, you can come live at my apartment. the kitty can over anytime so long > as he doesn’t claw my furniture. > regards, > michael

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well i hope you have a merry christmas. it would be fun to take a drive on christmas. i hope you do go somewhere just for the fun of it. why is the Orthoxod Christmas on a different date if i might ask? anita "wiggly lumber" <d…@arithmetic.com> wrote in message

news:0%8rd.13822$kI6.900029@news20.bellglobal.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> pines wrote: > > have you done any christmas shopping yet? > > just curious. > > anita > I haven’t exchanged Christmas presents with anyone in years and years. > My family always celebrated the Orthoxod Christmas (January 7th), so, > after my brother got old enough to understand, we just treated December > 25th like any other day off work or school. > This Christmas it would be cool to drive a long distance somewhere, but > I’m not sure where. > -wl

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I am done. "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message

news:ZQ7rd.76441$7i4.6154@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> have you done any christmas shopping yet? > just curious. > anita

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wow good for you. most people wait till the last minute. anita "Fred B." <spamf…@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

news:TF9rd.2939$Dm2.1757@bignews1.bellsouth.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am done. > "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message > news:ZQ7rd.76441$7i4.6154@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > > have you done any christmas shopping yet? > > just curious. > > anita

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> "wiggly lumber" <d…@arithmetic.com> wrote in message > news:819rd.13823$kI6.900679@news20.bellglobal.com… > > If you plan to upgrade at all, avoid Compaqs, because they can’t be > > upgraded with generic parts. The parts have to be Compaq. > All the same, what a fantastic machine Compaq is – I have never come across > such a reliable machine as the Compaq.

Compaq merged with or bought out HP (hewlett packard). how times change cause Compaq started with PCs (as i recall) and HP has been around for ages. i have owned one HP workstation with SCSI disk and one Compaq laptop. both did very well, although i hear the laptop died on my ex-girlfriend. she may have clicked on something in my extensive malware collection. i have also owned 4 IBM PS/2, NEC laptop, 2 Emachines, 1 i forget, 1 Micron, 1 MicroSparc, 1 Gateway, and a lot of junk. very little has broken on me unless it was a very old computer (e.g. 386 or 486). my current computer is the slowest i’ve had since 2001. michael

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> If you plan to upgrade at all, avoid Compaqs, because they can’t be > upgraded with generic parts. The parts have to be Compaq. > -wl

i’ve also heard Compaq’s (and HP’s) build quality is poor. i probably just had good luck with the ones i owned. Dell is sometimes ridiculed, and for a while had non-standard ATX power pinouts (think KA-BOOM). i trust Wiggly’s judgement on these non-standard issues though. i think a Dell would be a good tradeoff between performance, cost, and reliability. did i mention i used to work at Dell? several of the persons on the linux mailing list work there. i would like to avoid E-machines and Microtel and Northgate (sold at walmart, a big U.S. retailer). but i’ll take what i can get. michael

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"gravity" <grav…@example.net> wrote in message

news:Hmard.5080$6K5.3713@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Compaq merged with or bought out HP (hewlett packard). how times change > cause Compaq started with PCs (as i recall) and HP has been around for ages. > i have owned one HP workstation with SCSI disk and one Compaq laptop. both > did very well, although i hear the laptop died on my ex-girlfriend. she may > have clicked on something in my extensive malware collection. > i have also owned 4 IBM PS/2, NEC laptop, 2 Emachines, 1 i forget, 1 Micron, > 1 MicroSparc, 1 Gateway, and a lot of junk. very little has broken on me > unless it was a very old computer (e.g. 386 or 486). > my current computer is the slowest i’ve had since 2001. > michael

As regards Hewlett Packard, I have heard you could chuck one their machines out of a 10th floor window and it would still work.

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pines wrote: > well i hope you have a merry christmas. it would be fun to take a drive > on christmas. i hope you do go somewhere just for the fun of it. why is the > Orthoxod Christmas on a different date if i might ask?

It’s based on the old Julian calendar, which was replaced by the Gregorian calendar (the one we now use) at some point. On the Julian calendar, our January 7th really is December 25th. -wl

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"wiggly lumber" <d…@arithmetic.com> wrote in message

news:mSard.18549$Ad3.1126079@news20.bellglobal.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> pines wrote: > > well i hope you have a merry christmas. it would be fun to take a drive > > on christmas. i hope you do go somewhere just for the fun of it. why is the > > Orthoxod Christmas on a different date if i might ask? > It’s based on the old Julian calendar, which was replaced by the > Gregorian calendar (the one we now use) at some point. On the Julian > calendar, our January 7th really is December 25th. > -wl

thanks for the information anita

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Julian? Once upon a time during the reign of Rome it was discovered that the "days changed". The months did not match in a cycle with the seasons. And Julius Ceasar was pissed. So Julius had a son, Augustus. And he liked him. Juliuse decided to add a few months so that the seasons would have a balance on the calender, so summer would always happen in the summer instead of the winter? So Julius said, "let there be July! For me, because I am after a God". Did he stop there? Nope. "Let there be an August for my glorious spawn as well, AUGUST!" Of course being as everyone adored their God/King Julius this made all the people very happy. However there was one horrible glitch. December is so named because decem in latin means "ten". November is based on Nova meaning nine. October means "eighth month" Julius had forever altered the number system by creating July and August. Now October is the tenth month. Julius being a humble man chose the months nsmd asfter himself and his son to fall in the mid summer. Then there was a Pope named Gregory. (Drum roll) Julius ceasar failed to understand the 365 days and a quarter was the actual length of the year. So during the interveneing centuries the claender slipped across the face of the seasons until August was happening in the winter again. Very confusing state of affairs. Screwed up bird migration and farmers crops were devestated. When the calendar was corrected, it was called the Gregorian calender, which incidently carries a leap year concept to prevent August from happening in december. This was a wise move. Then..There was the advent of Damo on the earth plane. Among his various cosmos ordained missions was to correct the calender again. Consider: There are fifty two weeks in a year. Now four weeks in a month is what most people figger on, correct? The Damo will propose 13 months of exactly four weeks each. 4 times 13 is 52. 52 weeks in a year, four weeks in a month, equals 13 equal months. The month of Damo will begin on the third week of July, and extend for its fair share of weeks, up to the third week in August. Accountants and landlord tenent relations and various other confusions and uncertainties will be avoided by the inroduction of the month of DAMO!!!!! Of course the greenery present during the month of DAMO will signify Damo’s adorable green eyes looking out for the concerns of men. When the Grehorian calender was introduced the Church was divided between Constantinople and Rome. An eastern and western church. This made managerial concerns more managable. However there was also a small schism going on between Constantinople and Rome. The Eastern Church, facing barbarians on all sides, understood that to retain the attention of the barabarians who were greatly influenced by pomp and circumstance that elaborate rites were needed, if the church was to prolifigate (grow). The Roman Church was becoming more touchy feely and squishy at the time. The Church in Constantinople rejected the Gregorian correction. The gregorian correction made years and months simply, and suddenly dissappear with one swing of the Holy Fathers Staff sitting there on the "Throne of Saint Peter". POOF! The Julian folks said….that Pope Gregory has a slipped cog wheel. So………. Just wait for me to introduce the month of DAMO. That oughts cause a few schisms. http://community.webtv.net/damodara/MystoryasIseeit

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> Julius ceasar failed to understand the 365 days and a quarter was the > actual length of the year. So during the interveneing centuries the > claender slipped across the face of the seasons until August was > happening in the winter again. Very confusing state of affairs. Screwed > up bird migration and farmers crops were devestated.

even with the Gregorian calendar, it will slip. so there are times when leap year is skipped, every 400 years. however 2000 A.D. was a special case since it was divisible by 2000. i think the other slippage occurs at year 40,000 A.D., when we will have a leap year. interesting stuff. michael

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pines <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message

news:7a8rd.76482$7i4.32335@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > michael, > a computer is expensive or least i think they are. what kind are you going > to get if you get one? you just moved why are you wanting to move again? > anita

i want to move into an apartment (within 100 miles of here). later i may move back to Atlanta (near Chesucat). a computer is cheap or expensive, it depends. my choices: $40 shipped — Pentium II surplus $100 shipped — Pentium III surplus $230 + shipping — Walmart computer $300 — computer with AOL contract $350 + shipping — Dell computer (loan possible) i don’t know which i will get. i should buy a cheap one, then gradually add peripherals and drives as money permits. michael

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michael, a computer is expensive or least i think they are. what kind are you going to get if you get one? you just moved why are you wanting to move again? anita "gravity" <grav…@example.net> wrote in message

news:P38rd.4958$6K5.3764@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> pines <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message > news:ZQ7rd.76441$7i4.6154@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > > have you done any christmas shopping yet? > > just curious. > > anita > hi yawnball, > i have no money to speak of. i can do after X-mas shopping with my tax > refund. maybe i’ll treat myself to a computer or some CDs. > my X-mas present to myself will be an apartment. > i need to buy some gifts. i do have some ideas, but haven’t pursued them > yet. > michael

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pines <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message

news:ZQ7rd.76441$7i4.6154@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > have you done any christmas shopping yet? > just curious. > anita

hi yawnball, i have no money to speak of. i can do after X-mas shopping with my tax refund. maybe i’ll treat myself to a computer or some CDs. my X-mas present to myself will be an apartment. i need to buy some gifts. i do have some ideas, but haven’t pursued them yet. michael

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well i am glad you are feeling better Just Me. that is a good thing. i never heard of email xmas cards before. sounds interesting. anita "Just Me" <thecli…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:G08rd.4359$u81.1414@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> No, I’m not putting up a tree. But I might send out some email xmas cards > at bluemountain.com. I think it costs about $15 to join. I’ve been feeling > pretty good since last Wednesday. For a long time, I’ve been doing bad. > "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message > news:MY7rd.76447$7i4.25365@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > > my family is thinking of getting a tree this year for the first time > > since > > i was a kid. my brother has a lot of lights to put on the tree if they get > > one. > > are you putting up a tree? > > anita > > "Just Me" <thecli…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:5T7rd.4348$u81.3546@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net… > >> No shopping yet. do you plan to put up a tree? > >> "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message > >> news:ZQ7rd.76441$7i4.6154@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > >> > have you done any christmas shopping yet? > >> > just curious. > >> > anita

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www.bluemountain.com "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message

news:I58rd.76467$7i4.37290@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> well i am glad you are feeling better Just Me. that is a good thing. > i never heard of email xmas cards before. sounds interesting. > anita > "Just Me" <thecli…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:G08rd.4359$u81.1414@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net… >> No, I’m not putting up a tree. But I might send out some email xmas >> cards >> at bluemountain.com. I think it costs about $15 to join. I’ve been > feeling >> pretty good since last Wednesday. For a long time, I’ve been doing bad. >> "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message >> news:MY7rd.76447$7i4.25365@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… >> > my family is thinking of getting a tree this year for the first time >> > since >> > i was a kid. my brother has a lot of lights to put on the tree if they > get >> > one. >> > are you putting up a tree? >> > anita >> > "Just Me" <thecli…@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> > news:5T7rd.4348$u81.3546@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net… >> >> No shopping yet. do you plan to put up a tree? >> >> "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message >> >> news:ZQ7rd.76441$7i4.6154@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… >> >> > have you done any christmas shopping yet? >> >> > just curious. >> >> > anita

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have you done any christmas shopping yet? just curious. anita

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No shopping yet. do you plan to put up a tree? "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message

news:ZQ7rd.76441$7i4.6154@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> have you done any christmas shopping yet? > just curious. > anita

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my family is thinking of getting a tree this year for the first time since i was a kid. my brother has a lot of lights to put on the tree if they get one. are you putting up a tree? anita "Just Me" <thecli…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:5T7rd.4348$u81.3546@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> No shopping yet. do you plan to put up a tree? > "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message > news:ZQ7rd.76441$7i4.6154@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > > have you done any christmas shopping yet? > > just curious. > > anita

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No, I’m not putting up a tree. But I might send out some email xmas cards at bluemountain.com. I think it costs about $15 to join. I’ve been feeling pretty good since last Wednesday. For a long time, I’ve been doing bad. "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message

news:MY7rd.76447$7i4.25365@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> my family is thinking of getting a tree this year for the first time > since > i was a kid. my brother has a lot of lights to put on the tree if they get > one. > are you putting up a tree? > anita > "Just Me" <thecli…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:5T7rd.4348$u81.3546@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net… >> No shopping yet. do you plan to put up a tree? >> "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message >> news:ZQ7rd.76441$7i4.6154@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… >> > have you done any christmas shopping yet? >> > just curious. >> > anita

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Accounting Talk » Accounting Job » Fun with math- surprising results

Fun with math- surprising results

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I’ve always been kind of a math nut, and I was just sitting down to do some basic calculations about my dieting history. At age 18, I was finished growing and pretty much had my adult body in place. I weighed 160 lbs. then. This past year, 16 years later, I was up to 220 lbs. My weight gain was pretty steady and even the whole way, and an extra 60 lbs. over 16 years amounts to a gain of 3.75 lbs./year. Not much, huh? I went further, using the standard figure that gaining or losing 1 lb. amounts to 3500 total calories in either direction. Multiplying 3.75 by 3500 shows that I overate by 13,125 calories per year on average. 13,125 divided by 365.25 (accounting for leap year) gives me a daily overage of about 36 calories. I had to redo it 3 times to convince myself that was right. What I thought was 16 years of pigging out really amounts to overeating by the amount of a plain rice cake every day. I know this is all oversimplifying to some extent, and there are different things to take into account involving how many daily calories you need based on your current weight, but it has to make you think. What if I could do it all over and just eat a little less every day? Just skip that extra helping of mashed potatoes, have a few less Doritos, get the burger without cheese. Just one thing like that every day could have kept me at a normal weight, possibly. Is it all really this simple, or does anyone see any big holes in this theory? William 210/205/160

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If you gained weight slowly over time then yes, you are correct, it is basically that calculation. You also have to take into account that your body tends to need less calories as you get older. One common estimate of this is 1% less for each year over 25. That accounts for people who tend to put on weight slowly in middle age even though they are eating about the same amount of food every day. For some of us though it isn’t that simple. In my case I’ve been overweight most of my adult life, so overate a lot more than just a rice cake’s worth of calories per day. doug – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve always been kind of a math nut, and I was just sitting down to do some basic calculations about my dieting history. At age 18, I was finished growing and pretty much had my adult body in place. I weighed 160 lbs. then. This past year, 16 years later, I was up to 220 lbs. My weight gain was pretty steady and even the whole way, and an extra 60 lbs. over 16 years amounts to a gain of 3.75 lbs./year. Not much, huh? I went further, using the standard figure that gaining or losing 1 lb. amounts to 3500 total calories in either direction. Multiplying 3.75 by 3500 shows that I overate by 13,125 calories per year on average. 13,125 divided by 365.25 (accounting for leap year) gives me a daily overage of about 36 calories. I had to redo it 3 times to convince myself that was right. What I thought was 16 years of pigging out really amounts to overeating by the amount of a plain rice cake every day. I know this is all oversimplifying to some extent, and there are different things to take into account involving how many daily calories you need based on your current weight, but it has to make you think. What if I could do it all over and just eat a little less every day? Just skip that extra helping of mashed potatoes, have a few less Doritos, get the burger without cheese. Just one thing like that every day could have kept me at a normal weight, possibly. Is it all really this simple, or does anyone see any big holes in this theory? William 210/205/160

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve always been kind of a math nut, and I was just sitting down to do some basic calculations about my dieting history. At age 18, I was finished growing and pretty much had my adult body in place. I weighed 160 lbs. then. This past year, 16 years later, I was up to 220 lbs. My weight gain was pretty steady and even the whole way, and an extra 60 lbs. over 16 years amounts to a gain of 3.75 lbs./year. Not much, huh? I went further, using the standard figure that gaining or losing 1 lb. amounts to 3500 total calories in either direction. Multiplying 3.75 by 3500 shows that I overate by 13,125 calories per year on average. 13,125 divided by 365.25 (accounting for leap year) gives me a daily overage of about 36 calories. I had to redo it 3 times to convince myself that was right. What I thought was 16 years of pigging out really amounts to overeating by the amount of a plain rice cake every day. I know this is all oversimplifying to some extent, and there are different things to take into account involving how many daily calories you need based on your current weight, but it has to make you think. What if I could do it all over and just eat a little less every day? Just skip that extra helping of mashed potatoes, have a few less Doritos, get the burger without cheese. Just one thing like that every day could have kept me at a normal weight, possibly. Is it all really this simple, or does anyone see any big holes in this theory? William 210/205/160

Nice post, and good job with the numbers (despite what the quibblers say)! FWIW, I’ve seen a similar calculation on various weight-related web sites, and yours agrees with it. Apparently, the average American woman gains about 1 lb per year during the 20 years following high school. Running the numbers like you did, this works out to a surplus of a mere 10 calories per day (equal to 2/3rds of a teaspoon of sugar)! The good news is that even small calorie deficits, if maintained over time, can result in substantial weight loss. Unfortunately, too many people think they can go on some "secret diet", or pop some "revolutionary all-natural fat-burning pill", and lose 20 lbs in 30 days. — GG http://www.WeightWare.com Your Weight and Health Diary

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13,125 divided by 365.25 (accounting for leap year) gives me a daily

overage of about 36 calories. I had to redo it 3 times to convince myself that was right. What I thought was 16 years of pigging out really amounts to overeating by the amount of a plain rice cake every day.

This shows how good the homeostatic control is in slim people, since their body is able to maintain a weight with such a small margin of error… On the contrary, this also shows that small changes can be enough to offset small weight gains… Though the 3,500kcal <- 1lbs of fat equation is not very accurate, especially in the energy – fat direction. The ability to convert excess energy to fat is very different from one person to the other, or even for a given person at different times in his life. In over-feeding experiments, some people have shown very poor ability to do that, like only producing less than 10 extra pounds from a daily excess of 3,000 kcal sustained for several months.

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I’ve always been kind of a math nut, and I was just sitting down to do some basic calculations about my dieting history. [snip] Multiplying 3.75 by 3500 shows that I overate by 13,125 calories per year on average. 13,125 divided by 365.25 (accounting for leap year) gives me a daily overage of about 36 calories. [snip] Is it all really this simple, or does anyone see any big holes in this theory?

It’s close to that simple. The part you have left out is that your maintenance level has gone up as you’ve gotten heavier. So the extra ~40 calories a day are all you have needed to add an additional pound at the margin, but that really compounds with the extra calories you were eating to maintain the extra pounds you had already put on. In other words, if you only eat 40 calories above maintenance for your starting weight, you will eventually stabilize at a weight slightly above your starting weight. In order to keep gaining after that, you have to add still more calories, and so on. — carla http://geekofalltrades.typepad.com/geek

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I’ve always been kind of a math nut, and I was just sitting down to do some basic calculations about my dieting history.

I’ve done the same calculations (excel is my sandbox), and calculated my gain from 200 – 236.5 from 2000 to 2002 was an average of 146kcal/day, ie if I had just substituted water instead of Mt Dew when eating out I wouldn’t have gained at all. d’oh! could have kept me at a normal weight, possibly. Is it all really this simple, or does anyone see any big holes in this theory?

Basically calories are stored if they’re not used, so gorging late at night may result in more fat gains than eating more regularly throughout the day. Plus there’s some theory that the fructose in high-fructose corn syrup gets changed into fats by the liver differently, and thus becomes belly / organ fat more easily, than other calories. I’ve read that the first 50g/day of fructose can be metabolized into glucose, but after that the fructose becomes triglycerides (fat).

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Accounting Talk » Management Accounting » Which is the best accounting designation?

Which is the best accounting designation?

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Hi Danille; Why don’t you visit the web sights of the organizations you are interested in? You will probably find a wealth of information. CPA’s are an American accounting organization. The others are Canadian. CMA’s are cost, or management accounting orientated. CA’s and CGA’s are finincal accountants. The CMA web site is www.cma-canada.org. The CGA web site is www.cga-canada.org. CGA’s do not have full public practice rights in all provences at this time but are quickly winning them as gouvernments become more enlightened and subscribe to the belief that compitition among the different accounting bodies is good for the profession in general and the consumer especially.

Ontario, the last provincial holdout, has now granted public accounting license rights to CMA’s and CGA’s. The only thing needed at this point is for the requirements to be defined. — Stephanie Serba, AICIA Partner, Durham Business Outsource Accounting & Technology www.dbo.ca – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -CGA’s also practice off shore, in places like the Bahamas, for instance, and I believe are training accountants in China. Hello. I am currently finishing a business degree and would like to obtain an accounting designation when I graduate. At the moment, I am leaning towards a CA, but was wondering if mabye I should get my CGA, CMA, or even CPA. Does anyone have an opinion of what designation would be most advantageous to hold? I do not know many people with designations so if you could share your experiences with me, I’d appreciate it! Personally, I think I would enjoy having my CA the most, but I’m still curious as to what other people have to say! Thanks for your input!

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Hi Danille; After you decide which designation is better for you, you should think about to make the CPA exam too. Lots of companies want to find a person with Canadian designation, and if you have the US designation, this could be a big plus for you. But I don’t know really: why is important in which state you make the CPA exam. Can somebody explain to me? Thanks, Agnes

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Don’t you have to be a resident in the state for which you are writing the CPA exam? If so, then it is impossible to get a CPA designation living in Canada. — Stephanie Serba, AICIA Partner, Durham Business Outsource Accounting & Technology www.dbo.ca

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Danille; After you decide which designation is better for you, you should think about to make the CPA exam too. Lots of companies want to find a person with Canadian designation, and if you have the US designation, this could be a big plus for you. But I don’t know really: why is important in which state you make the CPA exam. Can somebody explain to me? Thanks, Agnes

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Judged by the creative accounting skandals coming to light frequently, the CFE designation might be what the markets need to help clean them up. The Association of Certified Examinors even offer a special Canadian section. You can see for yourself at: http://www.cfenet.com A. Lucien Meyers, CIA, CMA

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Hello. I am currently finishing a business degree and would like to obtain an accounting designation when I graduate. At the moment, I am leaning towards a CA, but was wondering if mabye I should get my CGA, CMA, or even CPA. Does anyone have an opinion of what designation would be most advantageous to hold? I do not know many people with designations so if you could share your experiences with me, I’d appreciate it! Personally, I think I would enjoy having my CA the most, but I’m still curious as to what other people have to say! Thanks for your input!

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It all depends on what "market" you are trying to get into. Based on the designations you name, I presume you’re in the Canadian environment, as those designations are pretty characteristic of Canada. Your bias is probably right, from two perspectives. If you plan to stay in Canada, the CA has been "highly credible" for longer than any of the others. And would certainly be more relevant than the CPA designation. If you ultimately plan to head to another country, it is unlikely that the CMA or CGA designations will be recognized internationally as having the same value as the CA. — http://cbbrowne.com/info/multiplexor.html Customer: "I’m running Windows ‘95." Tech: "Yes." Customer: "My computer isn’t working now." Tech: "Yes, you said that."

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello. I am currently finishing a business degree and would like to obtain an accounting designation when I graduate. At the moment, I am leaning towards a CA, but was wondering if mabye I should get my CGA, CMA, or even CPA. Does anyone have an opinion of what designation would be most advantageous to hold? I do not know many people with designations so if you could share your experiences with me, I’d appreciate it! Personally, I think I would enjoy having my CA the most, but I’m still curious as to what other people have to say! Thanks for your input!

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Accounting Talk » Accounting » Query about Curtin University – Accounting (Technologies) 224

Query about Curtin University – Accounting (Technologies) 224

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I am studying the course of Acc (Technologies) 224 in Curtin University. I would have more information about it. Anyone who has taken it, pls comment. Tks & regards, Joanna

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You have to know how to write a web site. Adman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am studying the course of Acc (Technologies) 224 in Curtin University. I would have more information about it. Anyone who has taken it, pls comment. Tks & regards, Joanna

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Accounting Talk » Accounting Software » Tax deduction for service to non-profit

Tax deduction for service to non-profit

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To answer your specific question it would not be a deduction from tax payable. Assuming it would be deductible it would be just a deduction. I am not a CPA, but I don’t think donated labor is deductible. So, if your only concern is maximizing your profit, then a $ of income is always better than a $ of deduction. Good luck Jerry

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can someone help me with the correct info? We have offered some software installation service to a non-profit. They have given the option to get payment or a certificate for tax-deduction. 1. Which is better? Payment for the service or a certificate for tax-deduction? 2. If tax-deduction is possible, will the amount be deductable from the tax-payable or deductable from the taxable income? How’s the accounting done? Thanks in advance. –Bingoo

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Can someone help me with the correct info? We

Who – is "we"? have offered some software installation service to a non-profit. They have given the option to get payment or a certificate for tax-deduction. 1. Which is better? Payment for the service or a certificate for tax-deduction?

Your tax deduction would be limited to (and follow me here) your actual out-of-pocket expenses. NOT the fair market value (whatever amount you thought you might could have billed someone else for that exact same work) of your services. In any event, a certificate for the tax deduction is better, why?, because you never had to put the income – in income, and you can still deduct your actual out-of pocket expenses (as an itemized deduction on Schedule A assuming that "we" is an individual). 2. If tax-deduction is possible, will the amount be deductable from the tax-payable or deductable from the taxable income? How’s the accounting done?

See above. Your actual costs spent providing the services are the only amount you can deduct. Again, YOUR COST, which generally means you wrote a check or paid cash for goods or other services. Like? Like what it actually cost you to install software. — Paul A. Thomas, CPA, PC Athens, Georgia

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Not if he’s self-employed, the income will be taxed for income tax as well as self-employment tax. While even if he turned right around and wrote the check back to the charity (and we’re both assuming the "non-profit" is a charitable non-profit) he’d only get an income tax deduction IF he itemizes his deductions and – there aren’t any limitations to his charitable contributions or itemized deductions. Personally, I think he’s going to be better off not taking it as income. — Paul A. Thomas, CPA, PC Athens, Georgia

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Can someone help me with the correct info? We have offered some software installation service to a non-profit. They have given the option to get payment or a certificate for tax-deduction. 1. Which is better? Payment for the service or a certificate for tax-deduction?

As Paul has noted, your only deduction is the out of pocket costs you incurred providing the service. That would be the same amount you will deduct if you get paid by the non-profit. So which is better, ($0 revenue – $out-of-pocket) or ($0 revenue – $out-of-pocket)? 2. If tax-deduction is possible, will the amount be deductable from the tax-payable or deductable from the taxable income? How’s the accounting done?

See Paul’s answer.

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Paul I would agree with your answer if he was going to take the check from the non-profit and give it back to them. I did not read in the question that he was that generous. I understand the non-profit has said we can 1) give Bingoo some money (income) 2) give Bingoo a receipt equal to the amount they were going to pay him in option 1 ("deduction") He used the word service in his question, therefore I assume he is talking more about labor than product. But I don’t think it matters. If it were all product (say $100 certificate for fair market value, and his cost was $10) and they gave him a check, then in the above options 1) He would have $100 of income and $10 of expense, so $90 would be taxable. If his total tax rate (including state, federal and self-employment) is 60% he would pay $54 tax. Therefore he would pocket $100-$10-$54 = $36 2) In this option his deduction would only be $10 * 45% (60% above – ~15% self-employment tax) = $4.50 So he could make $36 or save $4.50. Again if his only concern is maximizing profit, I would think making $36 would be better than saving $4.50. If it were all labor I think the trade-off would be $40 versus $0 (since his labor is not deductible). If the above expense was equal to the income ($100), then the tradeoff would be $0 versus -$55 (loss). If his goal is to help the non-profit, then obviously taking the certificate would be the best for them. Again, I am not a CPA, but this seems pretty straight-forward that income for a service is better than a deduction for the same service. Please educate me – what don’t I understand? Thanks Jerry

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – To answer your specific question it would not be a deduction from tax payable. Assuming it would be deductible it would be just a deduction. I am not a CPA, but I don’t think donated labor is deductible. So, if your only concern is maximizing your profit, then a $ of income is always better than a $ of deduction. Not if he’s self-employed, the income will be taxed for income tax as well as self-employment tax. While even if he turned right around and wrote the check back to the charity (and we’re both assuming the "non-profit" is a charitable non-profit) he’d only get an income tax deduction IF he itemizes his deductions and – there aren’t any limitations to his charitable contributions or itemized deductions. Personally, I think he’s going to be better off not taking it as income. — Paul A. Thomas, CPA, PC Athens, Georgia

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Please educate me – what don’t I understand?

You understand.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks for all the responses. Though the replies are detailed, some of them go above my head! (I am not an accounting pro.) I’d appreciate an additional explanation. "We" are an small incorporation – doing just about $100,000 a year. The value of the service is about $5,000. One of our employees did the job. Do you think we’ll benefit by cash or certificate? For general knowledge, what would be the appropriate accounting method: Method #1 Method #2 Or, both are not correct?!

Both are not correct. (Method #2 is never correct.) The costs of providing the service to the non-profit are included in the $30,000 of expenses. You do NOT get a deduction for the value of the work. From your facts you would be better off taking the cash.

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Accounting Talk » Accounting » Simply Accounting Has Screwed Up My Computer

Simply Accounting Has Screwed Up My Computer

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Hi, I installed Simply Accounting and didn’t like it. It refuses to uninstall when I use add remove programs. It just keeps reinstalling itself! Not only that, the demo has attached itself to my c drive. This means when I click on my c drive icon from "My Computer" the demo starts up instead of opening the c drive. help me get rid of it please. — Please include the body of this email in any replies. Sincerely, Todd Sumrall http://Merchant-Solution.com http://Canada-Merchant-Accounts.com Merchant Accounts, Web Hosting, Shopping Carts For both Americans and Canadians E-commerce and Payment System Specialist *** Contact *** Phone 1-(850) 981-9649 Fax 1-(850) 981-9652 Mail: Electronic Processing 6223 Hwy 90 #186 Milton, FL 32570

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I installed Simply Accounting and didn’t like it. It refuses to uninstall when I use add remove programs. It just keeps reinstalling itself!

Try removing the CD and then re-boot the system. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Microsoft is now working on the problem. Called Simply and got a "not our problem". Called Dell, "never heard of this happening, call Microsoft" Called Microsoft got, " sending it up the tech support chain. This program has screwed up your registry and you will be getting a call from a technician to resolve the problem" — Please include the body of this email in any replies. Sincerely, Todd Sumrall http://Merchant-Solution.com http://Canada-Merchant-Accounts.com Merchant Accounts, Web Hosting, Shopping Carts For both Americans and Canadians E-commerce and Payment System Specialist *** Contact *** Phone 1-(850) 981-9649 Fax 1-(850) 981-9652 Mail: Electronic Processing 6223 Hwy 90 #186 Milton, FL 32570

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I installed Simply Accounting and didn’t like it. It refuses to uninstall when I use add remove programs. It just keeps reinstalling itself! Try removing the CD and then re-boot the system. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Accounting Talk » Financial Accounting » Feds Probe Tainted Medical Research

Feds Probe Tainted Medical Research

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It’s been a problem for a long time. Something really needs to be done about it! And soon. Debs – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thursday December 27 5:18 PM ET Feds Probe Tainted Medical Research By LEIGH STROPE, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) – Universities and federal health officials must do more to prevent financial conflicts that could taint biomedical research and harm human subjects, a congressional review says. The study by the General Accounting Office (news – web sites), the investigative arm of Congress, said researchers do not have to disclose their financial interests to independent review boards, even though the boards must evaluate projects for risks to human subjects. The GAO found the five universities it studied were hard-pressed to provide basic data about researchers’ financial conflicts of interest in clinical studies involving humans. Sen. Bill Frist (news – bio – voting record), R-Tenn., requested the investigation because of concerns that researchers or institutions were becoming too focused on financial rewards. Frist is a physician. The report said the universities kept information about research activities and financial interests in different offices and in different formats, “making it a challenge to ensure that conflicts of interest were appropriately managed and not overlooked.” Officials at some of the universities told the GAO that they were beginning to develop a central database for financial information. Collaborations between government-funded researchers and private industry have increased. A 1980 law let universities, nonprofit corporations and small businesses keep the patents and profits from their federally funded projects. The budget of the National Institutes of Health (news – web sites), the main federal agency that funds biomedical research, grew from more than $3 billion in 1980 to more than $20 billion this year. Funding from drug companies grew even more rapidly, from $1.5 billion in 1980 to $22.4 billion in 2000. The report said the five universities had developed policies for financial conflicts of interest, but they were all different. The GAO recommended that federal health officials improve oversight and regulations governing financial interest, and to help institutions identify and manage such conflicts. Health and Human Services (news – web sites) officials agreed with the report’s findings, and said efforts are under way to visit institutions to collect data and to analyze their conflict policies. The universities studied were the University of California, Los Angeles; University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill; University of Washington in Seattle; Washington University in St. Louis; and Yale University. – On the Net: General Accounting Office: http://www.gao.gov National Institutes of Health: www.nih.gov Please Visit www.ibdcure.com and sign the petition for an IBD postage stamp. All opinions expressed are mine unless otherwise noted. Leah’s Body Sugaring Recipe Remove unwanted hair http://www.for-romance.com/sugar "those that can be offended, will be" … Pastor Don

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Thursday December 27 5:18 PM ET Feds Probe Tainted Medical Research By LEIGH STROPE, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) – Universities and federal health officials must do more to prevent financial conflicts that could taint biomedical research and harm human subjects, a congressional review says. The study by the General Accounting Office (news – web sites), the investigative arm of Congress, said researchers do not have to disclose their financial interests to independent review boards, even though the boards must evaluate projects for risks to human subjects. The GAO found the five universities it studied were hard-pressed to provide basic data about researchers’ financial conflicts of interest in clinical studies involving humans. Sen. Bill Frist (news – bio – voting record), R-Tenn., requested the investigation because of concerns that researchers or institutions were becoming too focused on financial rewards. Frist is a physician. The report said the universities kept information about research activities and financial interests in different offices and in different formats, “making it a challenge to ensure that conflicts of interest were appropriately managed and not overlooked.” Officials at some of the universities told the GAO that they were beginning to develop a central database for financial information. Collaborations between government-funded researchers and private industry have increased. A 1980 law let universities, nonprofit corporations and small businesses keep the patents and profits from their federally funded projects. The budget of the National Institutes of Health (news – web sites), the main federal agency that funds biomedical research, grew from more than $3 billion in 1980 to more than $20 billion this year. Funding from drug companies grew even more rapidly, from $1.5 billion in 1980 to $22.4 billion in 2000. The report said the five universities had developed policies for financial conflicts of interest, but they were all different. The GAO recommended that federal health officials improve oversight and regulations governing financial interest, and to help institutions identify and manage such conflicts. Health and Human Services (news – web sites) officials agreed with the report’s findings, and said efforts are under way to visit institutions to collect data and to analyze their conflict policies. The universities studied were the University of California, Los Angeles; University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill; University of Washington in Seattle; Washington University in St. Louis; and Yale University. – On the Net: General Accounting Office: http://www.gao.gov National Institutes of Health: www.nih.gov Please Visit www.ibdcure.com and sign the petition for an IBD postage stamp. All opinions expressed are mine unless otherwise noted. Leah’s Body Sugaring Recipe Remove unwanted hair http://www.for-romance.com/sugar "those that can be offended, will be" … Pastor Don

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Accounting Talk » Accounting Job » Quickbooks 99 Question

Quickbooks 99 Question

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I work for a general contractor and we use QB Pro 99. We considered setting up an LLC to do the renting of our equipment back to us and that seemed to be clean way to do it. Is there a way to charge rent on various tools we own to job costs other than the previously mentioned?

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On new QB Pro99 feature lets you charge time of owners or contractors to job costs. It should not be hard to set up and hourly intercompany charge based on anything. A separate LLC may make all charges taxable for sales tax, depending on your location. Mike Block, Tax Fighting C.P.A. World’s #1 QuickBooks Top Tester 450+ page QB book/free updates $10 QB add-ons http://www.blocktax.com/ Ft Lauderdale FL 954-566-7540

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Accounting Talk » Business Accounting » Desperate Accoutning Problem

Desperate Accoutning Problem

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Air Time; Accountant baiting, an excellent sport for the 21st century! Your troll caught quite a number of fish. What are you going to do with them now? I’ve never tried to clean one. Are they edible?? Jim Depends if the chef has done a quiche-flaw analyis. A quiche-flaw analysis does add levity to the loaf. If Air Time was baiting us, he / she certainly got a response. Now would be the time to do something with it. Jim Hudspeth – Fish of undetermined size & species. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

There’s obviously not a lot of creativity there. If there was, he would have completed his paper. If he were the creative sort, he would have reeled us all in by now. – - – SHARE WHAT YOU KNOW. WASTE OTHER PEOPLE’S TIME IF YOU DON’T – - – Who’s trolling who? — Mondo [aka Bwana] Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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(snip) Who’s trolling who? — Mondo [aka Bwana] Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

Who’s trolling WHOM? 8<;-) Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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You should write your own paper and take an ethics cource while you are at it! No wonder they want to make ethics a mandatory cource in college! Curlyqzs – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a serious problem. when I finished my coursework at college I needed to hand in a 25 page paper on accounting. (Accounting was my major). I never bothered to do it, and it didnt matter since I ended up going into computer programming. However, now I am changing jobs, and I am concerned that they will look into my background and discover that I never received my degree. Does anyone have a 25 page paper on any accounting topic that they are willing to either give or sell to me. I am very worried about this and would like to take care of this as soon as possible. Please email me at AZ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Is this smiley a girl with a large bow in her hair or a guy with a propeller hat? 8<;-)

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Air Time; Accountant baiting, an excellent sport for the 21st century! Your troll caught quite a number of fish. What are you going to do with them now? I’ve never tried to clean one.

Are they edible?? Jim Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Both you and Air Time need to get a life and leave us all alone. All that is needed for evil fo prevail is for good men to do nothing. – (Plagiarized from some dead smart guy).

Good comment! Jim Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Don’t you all recognize a good troll when you see one

Everyone know accountants have no sense of humor. Besides, I thought troll was one of those politically incorrect terms we didn’t use any more. Jim Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Depends if the chef has done a quiche-flaw analyis. 8<;-) Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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A quiche-flaw analysis does add levity to the loaf. If Air Time was baiting us, he / she certainly got a response. Now would be the time to do something with it. Jim Hudspeth – Fish of undetermined size & species. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Don’t you all recognize a good troll when you see one Everyone know accountants have no sense of humor. Besides, I thought troll was one of those politically incorrect terms we didn’t use any more. Jim

As a verb, it is perfectly correct, unless you are in the midst of animal rights activists. As a noun, now that’s a different matter. Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

– Mondo Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I have a serious problem. when I finished my coursework at college I needed to hand in a 25 page paper on accounting. [.....] Does anyone have a 25 page paper on any accounting topic that they are willing to either give or sell to me. I am very worried about this and would like to take care of this as soon as possible.

Now that fifteen people have expresssed their moral outrage, I suggest you should produce a paper on Ethics, by going deeply into the wider literature on ethics and morality. Study Thomas Aquinas, etc. Bring back to the profession a new infusion of thought, our very wellsprings of ethical inspiration come from the halls of higher education after all. Here are some ethics koans. 1. Client A, being fully aware of the needs of society and the importance of governance, nevertheless, forms an intent to minimize his taxes, and having several taxable entities of moderate complexity, engages PriceWaterhouse Coopers to create a filing position that saves him $10,000. Client B, having a firm intent to minimize his taxes, and having a small schedule C business, erases his cost of goods sold and changes it, saving $10,000. Which is more unethical, and why? 2. Partner in CPA firm hires the dumbest people he can find, yet still having CPA certificates. He confers at length with all of his clients, but gives partial information to his staff, and gives it in a highly disorganized condition, for tax return preparation. A strict regime of time constraints is also imposed on the staff CPAs. When the tax returns are completed the Partner reviewer does not correct most errors in the taxpayer’s favor, but militantly corrects all overtaxation errors. Thus by a combination of staffing selection and time constraints he realizes a harvest of tax savings for benefit of clients. In turn, he achieves above normal economic returns from the practice. Does the fact that each particular error originated with the staff CPA preparer mitigate the ethical responsibility of the partner in any way? 3. In 1976, the top marginal tax rate in NY city and state was 15%, and the top Federal tax rate was 70%. Taxpayer A having real taxable income of $500,000 owed taxes of $350,000. He decided to underreport his income, reducing the tax by $50,000 and paid $300,000. In 1982, after federal and state tax reforms, teh top Federal rate was 35% and the top NY rate was 8%. Taxpayer B having true taxable income of $500,000, didn’t cheat on his taxes. He paid a total of $250,000. Which was unethical and why. (Hint: What is the guidance from the pope, ayatollahs, other spiritual gurus, on the question of marginal rates? And which elder statesman, in a representative system of government, has ethics so finely calibrated as to provide this numerical constant? ) 4. Taxpayer A, living in the US, having an income of $100,000 in 1968, and whose government was bombing Cambodia under an executive order issued in secrecy by a single individual he did not vote for, paid taxes of $30,000 to his government even though he believed the actions of the government were morally wrong. Taxpayer B, under the same circumstances, went underground, and didn’t file or pay his taxes. Which was more ethical and why? 5. CPA #1, living in 1999, noticing that most of his clients are clueless about computers, makes a great living by hiring junior staff to perform meaningless manual labor inputting and cleaning up data entries which his client could have fully automated if he used appropriate software and trained his clerical people. CPA #2, under the same circumstances, told his client to get a life, and install some better software that was better automated, and walked away from the fees revenue. Which was ethical and why? heh heh heh! Had fun with this again, * Todd F. Boyle CPA www.gldialtone.com/xml-accounting.htm * International Accounting Services LLC tboyle at rosehill .net * 9745-128th Av NE, Kirkland WA 98033 (425) 827-3107

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Don’t you all recognize a good troll when you see one – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a serious problem. when I finished my coursework at college I needed to hand in a 25 page paper on accounting. [.....] Does anyone have a 25 page paper on any accounting topic that they are willing to either give or sell to me. I am very worried about this and would like to take care of this as soon as possible.

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Both you and Air Time need to get a life and leave us all alone.

All that is needed for evil fo prevail is for good men to do nothing. – (Plagiarized from some dead smart guy).

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Air Time; Accountant baiting, an excellent sport for the 21st century! Your troll caught quite a number of fish. What are you going to do with them now? I’ve never tried to clean one. 8<;-) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a serious problem. when I finished my coursework at college I needed to hand in a 25 page paper on accounting. (Accounting was my major). I never bothered to do it, and it didnt matter since I ended up going into computer programming. However, now I am changing jobs, and I am concerned that they will look into my background and discover that I never received my degree. Does anyone have a 25 page paper on any accounting topic that they are willing to either give or sell to me. I am very worried about this and would like to take care of this as soon as possible. Please email me at AZ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I have a serious problem. when I finished my coursework at college I needed to hand in a 25 page paper on accounting. (Accounting was my major). I never bothered to do it, and it didnt matter since I ended up going into computer programming. However, now I am changing jobs, and I am concerned that they will look into my background and discover that I never received my degree. Does anyone have a 25 page paper on any accounting topic that they are willing to either give or sell to me. I am very worried about this and would like to take care of this as soon as possible. Please email me at AZ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a serious problem. when I finished my coursework at college I needed to hand in a 25 page paper on accounting. (Accounting was my major). I never bothered to do it, and it didnt matter since I ended up going into computer programming. However, now I am changing jobs, and I am concerned that they will look into my background and discover that I never received my degree. Does anyone have a 25 page paper on any accounting topic that they are willing to either give or sell to me. I am very worried about this and would like to take care of this as soon as possible. Please email me at AZ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

– Stop looking for the easy way out! What you are asking only serves to dilute the value of what we, in this forum, have worked so hard to acquire. Both in school and in our professional careers. PO’dAccountant Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Someone once suggested that the day would dawn when persons would not be known by the color of their epidermus but would be known by the content of their character. Perhaps the Internet will bring that day closer. - Carl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a serious problem. when I finished my coursework at college I needed to hand in a 25 page paper on accounting. (Accounting was my major). I never bothered to do it, and it didnt matter since I ended up going into computer programming. However, now I am changing jobs, and I am concerned that they will look into my background and discover that I never received my degree. Does anyone have a 25 page paper on any accounting topic that they are willing to either give or sell to me. I am very worried about this and would like to take care of this as soon as possible. Please email me at AZ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Is Air Time or Air Head? Leave us all alone. Stay out of Accounting. You are the kind of guy that is a disgrace to yourself and your peers and we don’t want you.

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And people say we can’t trust lawyers… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a serious problem. when I finished my coursework at college I needed to hand in a 25 page paper on accounting. (Accounting was my major). I never bothered to do it, and it didnt matter since I ended up going into computer programming. However, now I am changing jobs, and I am concerned that they will look into my background and discover that I never received my degree. Does anyone have a 25 page paper on any accounting topic that they are willing to either give or sell to me. I am very worried about this and would like to take care of this as soon as possible. Please email me at AZ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I don’t think someone like you deserves to be a college grad. Just do it yourself. It doesn’t have to be good, just do a literature review or something.

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Are you saying that you have led your employers to believe you have obtained your degree? The accounting profession has not only moral and ethical guidelines but there are a number of legal issues as well. As an accountant you will assume a level of fiduciary responsibilities in almost every job. I personally would not want to hire someone that I could not trust in those positions, or any position for that matter! You also implied that by submitting a paper you can actually have your degree without any additional course work. If that is the case then whether you buy it or do it you accomplish the same objective. My suggestion is that you complete a paper on the moral, ethical and fiduciary responsibilities of the accounting profession. The AICPA and the IMA have guidelines you can use and you already have a mini-survey going online here. Hey you may even learn something!! Don Regards, Donald A Haney, MBA Emergency Care Specialists, PC "Learning occurs in the mind, independent of time and place." – Plato I don’t think someone like you deserves to be a college grad. Just do it yourself. It doesn’t have to be good, just do a literature review or something. I have a serious problem. when I finished my coursework at college I needed to hand in a 25 page paper on accounting. (Accounting was my major). I never bothered to do it, and it didnt matter since I ended up going into computer programming. However, now I am changing jobs, and I am concerned that they will look into my background and discover that I never received my degree. Does anyone have a 25 page paper on any accounting topic that they are willing to either give or sell to me. I am very worried about this and would like to take care of this as soon as possible. Please email me at AZ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My suggestion is that you complete a paper on the moral, ethical and fiduciary responsibilities of the accounting profession. The AICPA and the IMA have guidelines you can use and you already have a mini-survey going online here. Hey you may even learn something!! Don

I would like to ditto this advice. If Air Time follows it, he / she will in fact learn something. Meanwhile, the rest of you folks, take a hard look. This is what corruption looks like on the front end. This is the source. This is where moral, economic and social collapse comes from. Also, for those of you who have the stomach for it, compare the AICPA guidelines to how it conducts its own affairs. Jim Hudspeth, CPA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a serious problem. when I finished my coursework at college I needed to hand in a 25 page paper on accounting. (Accounting was my major). I never bothered to do it, and it didnt matter since I ended up going into computer programming. However, now I am changing jobs, and I am concerned that they will look into my background and discover that I never received my degree. Does anyone have a 25 page paper on any accounting topic that they are willing to either give or sell to me. I am very worried about this and would like to take care of this as soon as possible. Please email me at AZ

Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Both you and Air Time need to get a life and leave us all alone.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a serious problem. when I finished my coursework at college I needed to hand in a 25 page paper on accounting. [.....] Does anyone have a 25 page paper on any accounting topic that they are willing to either give or sell to me. I am very worried about this and would like to take care of this as soon as possible. Now that fifteen people have expresssed their moral outrage, I suggest you should produce a paper on Ethics, by going deeply into the wider literature on ethics and morality. Study Thomas Aquinas, etc. Bring back to the profession a new infusion of thought, our very wellsprings of ethical inspiration come from the halls of higher education after all. Here are some ethics koans. 1. Client A, being fully aware of the needs of society and the importance of governance, nevertheless, forms an intent to minimize his taxes, and having several taxable entities of moderate complexity, engages PriceWaterhouse Coopers to create a filing position that saves him $10,000. Client B, having a firm intent to minimize his taxes, and having a small schedule C business, erases his cost of goods sold and changes it, saving $10,000. Which is more unethical, and why? 2. Partner in CPA firm hires the dumbest people he can find, yet still having CPA certificates. He confers at length with all of his clients, but gives partial information to his staff, and gives it in a highly disorganized condition, for tax return preparation. A strict regime of time constraints is also imposed on the staff CPAs. When the tax returns are completed the Partner reviewer does not correct most errors in the taxpayer’s favor, but militantly corrects all overtaxation errors. Thus by a combination of staffing selection and time constraints he realizes a harvest of tax savings for benefit of clients. In turn, he achieves above normal economic returns from the practice. Does the fact that each particular error originated with the staff CPA preparer mitigate the ethical responsibility of the partner in any way? 3. In 1976, the top marginal tax rate in NY city and state was 15%, and the top Federal tax rate was 70%. Taxpayer A having real taxable income of $500,000 owed taxes of $350,000. He decided to underreport his income, reducing the tax by $50,000 and paid $300,000. In 1982, after federal and state tax reforms, teh top Federal rate was 35% and the top NY rate was 8%. Taxpayer B having true taxable income of $500,000, didn’t cheat on his taxes. He paid a total of $250,000. Which was unethical and why. (Hint: What is the guidance from the pope, ayatollahs, other spiritual gurus, on the question of marginal rates? And which elder statesman, in a representative system of government, has ethics so finely calibrated as to provide this numerical constant? ) 4. Taxpayer A, living in the US, having an income of $100,000 in 1968, and whose government was bombing Cambodia under an executive order issued in secrecy by a single individual he did not vote for, paid taxes of $30,000 to his government even though he believed the actions of the government were morally wrong. Taxpayer B, under the same circumstances, went underground, and didn’t file or pay his taxes. Which was more ethical and why? 5. CPA #1, living in 1999, noticing that most of his clients are clueless about computers, makes a great living by hiring junior staff to perform meaningless manual labor inputting and cleaning up data entries which his client could have fully automated if he used appropriate software and trained his clerical people. CPA #2, under the same circumstances, told his client to get a life, and install some better software that was better automated, and walked away from the fees revenue. Which was ethical and why? heh heh heh! Had fun with this again, * Todd F. Boyle CPA www.gldialtone.com/xml-accounting.htm * International Accounting Services LLC tboyle at rosehill .net * 9745-128th Av NE, Kirkland WA 98033 (425) 827-3107

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Did you finish the ethics coursework — or sleep through? Ed Gray, CPA – Dallas

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Tax avoidance / tax evasion. The first is legal, the latter is not. Based on the facts presented, assuming PWC did not materially "stretch" the law, I would conclude that the Client A situation was also ethical and the Client B situation was not. We do need to keep in mind that while law and ethics interact, they are not the same thing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 2. Partner in CPA firm hires the dumbest people he can find, yet still having CPA certificates. He confers at length with all of his clients, but gives partial information to his staff, and gives it in a highly disorganized condition, for tax return preparation. A strict regime of time constraints is also imposed on the staff CPAs. When the tax returns are completed the Partner reviewer does not correct most errors in the taxpayer’s favor, but militantly corrects all overtaxation errors. Thus by a combination of staffing selection and time constraints he realizes a harvest of tax savings for benefit of clients. In turn, he achieves above normal economic returns from the practice. Does the fact that each particular error originated with the staff CPA preparer mitigate the ethical responsibility of the partner in any way?

The "politically correct" term here would be "ethically challenged". This fact situation seems to have a ring of reality to it. Might this be a real situation? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 3. In 1976, the top marginal tax rate in NY city and state was 15%, and the top Federal tax rate was 70%. Taxpayer A having real taxable income of $500,000 owed taxes of $350,000. He decided to underreport his income, reducing the tax by $50,000 and paid $300,000. In 1982, after federal and state tax reforms, teh top Federal rate was 35% and the top NY rate was 8%. Taxpayer B having true taxable income of $500,000, didn’t cheat on his taxes. He paid a total of $250,000. Which was unethical and why. (Hint: What is the guidance from the pope, ayatollahs, other spiritual gurus, on the question of marginal rates? And which elder statesman, in a representative system of government, has ethics so finely calibrated as to provide this numerical constant? )

There is no numerical constant. Facts and circumstances change. Needs change. Tax rates must also change. 4. Taxpayer A, living in the US, having an income of $100,000 in 1968, and whose government was bombing Cambodia under an executive order issued in secrecy by a single individual he did not vote for, paid taxes of $30,000 to his government even though he believed the actions of the government were morally wrong. Taxpayer B, under the same circumstances, went underground, and didn’t file or pay his taxes. Which was more ethical and why?

Civil disobedience; jury nullification; tax protests (as in Boston Tea Party). How you stand on these depends on where you sit. If you win, you a often a hero. If you lose – well – you lose. 5. CPA #1, living in 1999, noticing that most of his clients are clueless about computers, makes a great living by hiring junior staff to perform meaningless manual labor inputting and cleaning up data entries which his client could have fully automated if he used appropriate software and trained his clerical people. CPA #2, under the same circumstances, told his client to get a life, and install some better software that was better automated, and walked away from the fees revenue. Which was ethical and why?

Both are ethical. One, however, may be a bit more fattening than the other. Jim Hudspeth Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Odometer Disconnect

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|http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/advance/index.htm | |You send them your chip, they reprogram it to what ever milage you want and |then you reinstall it. | |Works great. Thanks. I had already been to that site before I posted my original message here. They said they’re waiting for the new cluster on the 99 GM truck/suv’s to test their system on. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.

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|You really are a dumb fuck. Just drive backwards everywhere you go! |It’s hell on the neck for the first 3 weeks, I even turned the |transmission and engine around in my 1980 Ford F150 so that I could |have 4 reverse and 1 forward speeds! And, the damned thing is still |under warranty. I have had to put a few miles on it, when I have to |FRONT-IN to a tight parking spot!! Have fun, you STAIN! I’m new here, but it appears you must be the newsgroup dumbass ? Normally I reply to people like you via email, would go through. Your mommy and daddy really should do a better job keeping you off the computer. The typical "pop off then hide behind a fake email address" lamer. What a waste of bandwidth. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.

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Well said; very well said… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey, Junior…. You were the one who came here asking for information on how to commit a crime. If no one wants to get their ass into hot water to help you, is that a reason to tell us that we ‘don’t know anything’? And as gently as I can, may I suggest that you go to your room and sulk, little boy. Regards, GG |I do believe the speedo is much more than that. I think it’s tied to the |throttle position sensor, engine vacuum and on and on……. The computer |uses the speedo to look up fuel and ignition curves in the prom. I suspect |if you disconnect it you will render your vehicle useless and have to take |it to the dealer to get the computer reset. They’ll know what you did, too. There is a computer that monitors the transmission. The speedo is wired off that computer. It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked. Usually newsgroups are a great source of experienced information, not the case here. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.

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Blake: I’m still curious. What is the "convenience" factor you mentioned in being able to turn the odo on and off at will? Bob

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Hey boy, You really are a dumb fuck. Just drive backwards everywhere you go! It’s hell on the neck for the first 3 weeks, I even turned the transmission and engine around in my 1980 Ford F150 so that I could have 4 reverse and 1 forward speeds! And, the damned thing is still under warranty. I have had to put a few miles on it, when I have to FRONT-IN to a tight parking spot!! Have fun, you STAIN!

"" ""Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos ""on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) "" ""The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to ""turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with ""the old analog odos. "" ""Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? ""So I’ve heard. "" ""hmmm, why don’t you just ask the mechanically inclined person at your ""lease company for help?

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TDC of compression stroke. GG

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -You mean, just like you did ? Sorry, never leased (Nor ever will) a vehicle in my life. I simply know because I work at the GM factory here in Oshawa. As you may have figured out by this point is that I have a little bit of knowledge about digital dashboards and mileage accounting systems that you obviously do not. Leases are for idiots. At least we agree on one thing. mistake on my part. My next step will be discussing it with my friends at the Proving Grounds. Uh, Ok.. Sure.

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You mean, just like you did ?

Sorry, never leased (Nor ever will) a vehicle in my life. I simply know because I work at the GM factory here in Oshawa. As you may have figured out by this point is that I have a little bit of knowledge about digital dashboards and mileage accounting systems that you obviously do not. Leases are for idiots.

At least we agree on one thing. mistake on my part. My next step will be discussing it with my friends at the Proving Grounds.

Uh, Ok.. Sure.

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Contact: http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/advance/index.htm You send them your chip, they reprogram it to what ever milage you want and then you reinstall it. Works great. Cost $200 or $1500.00 for the machine to do it yourself.

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That doesn’t make it any more right, nor is OK to be a drug dealer because people smoke crack anyway. — Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/9967/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is not just a matter of being a goody goody. What you are proposing to do is clearly ILLEGAL.. And it likely isn’t as easy as removing a chip anyway. — Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/9967/ So is smoking crack, but people do that anyway, too.

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Buddy, if you’re looking for experienced info on this, maybe you should check your local penitentiary? — Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/9967/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – |I do believe the speedo is much more than that. I think it’s tied to the |throttle position sensor, engine vacuum and on and on……. The computer |uses the speedo to look up fuel and ignition curves in the prom. I suspect |if you disconnect it you will render your vehicle useless and have to take |it to the dealer to get the computer reset. They’ll know what you did, too. There is a computer that monitors the transmission. The speedo is wired off that computer. It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked. Usually newsgroups are a great source of experienced information, not the case here. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.

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|My guess would be that there is no direct way to prevent the mileage from |accumulating. The LCD on the dash is only a simple display device. It has no |memory of its own. The actual mileage is most logically maintained in the |computer that controls the transmission, since its counting rotations anyway. |Then the display is simply a dumb output device. You can bypass the connection from the transmission to the PCM altogether. |Disconnect the display, and the computer merrily continues counting rotations. |Disconnect the input, and you have much bigger problems. With some systems, yes it can cause problems. With others, it can be done with no problems at all. I’m looking for someone who has "evaluated" this on the re-designed 99 full size trucks to tell me whether or not it can be done. |Now, then, if this assumption is correct, and you can identify the device |which stores the rotation count, replacing it should reset the odo, too. And I’m thinking that would be a chip. Which can also possibly not just be replaced, but also reprogrammed with the right tools. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.

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|I know how to do this on a new Dodge truck and suspect it is similar to |the GM. The speed sensor comes off of the transmission just like they |always have only its a 3 wire connector instead of a cable. One wire is |ground, one is the speed sensor wire that goes to the computer for |torque converter lockup etc. and the third wire goes to the instrument |cluster. Disconnecting the entire plug causes the engine to stall when |comming to a stop after the torque converter has locked. This is |because the computer doesn’t know that the truck has stopped. However, |disconnecting, cutting, switching, etc. of the wire that goes to the |instrument cluster had no effect at all on the operation of the truck |except of course the speedo and odometer won’t work. If you were to |find the wire behind the dash and make your changes there it would be |virtually undetectable. I found the wiring info in the electrical |diagrams in the back of the Haynes manual. This being said I have heard |that the computer can also keep track of the milage and the info would |be retrievable via the OBD II port, but I can not verify this. Whoa, hey thanks for the post. Finally someone who can add something useful to the conversation. The wire you’re referring is also the one I’m talking about. This wire can be put on a switch (to turn on and off). The wire can be found, like you said, under the dash or behind the glove compartment. I’ve recently learned that a "Powertrain Control Module" (in GM vehicles) also allocates mileage information as well as the odometer. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.

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Replacement of the PCM with a performance/aftermarket PCM while the switch is in the off position would cause the odometer to match the factory computer. In the Dodge the performance computer is a complete changeout, I am not sure whether the GM is a complete changeout or a plug in module that simply connects to the factory computer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The wire you’re referring is also the one I’m talking about. This wire can be put on a switch (to turn on and off). The wire can be found, like you said, under the dash or behind the glove compartment. I’ve recently learned that a "Powertrain Control Module" (in GM vehicles) also allocates mileage information as well as the odometer.

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So, out of curiosity: What is the "convenience" of turning the odo on and off whenever you wish? My guess would be that there is no direct way to prevent the mileage from accumulating. The LCD on the dash is only a simple display device. It has no memory of its own. The actual mileage is most logically maintained in the computer that controls the transmission, since its counting rotations anyway. Then the display is simply a dumb output device. Disconnect the display, and the computer merrily continues counting rotations. Disconnect the input, and you have much bigger problems. Now, then, if this assumption is correct, and you can identify the device which stores the rotation count, replacing it should reset the odo, too. Bob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – |There is a computer that monitors the transmission. |The speedo is wired off that computer. | |It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows |what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked. | |If you allready knew, why did you ask? | |And good luck when your leasing company finds out.. And they WILL find |out, I guarentee it. They didn’t just fall off the turnip truck. You mean, just like you did ? I never mentioned that I am leasing a vehicle with an odometer that we’re discussing. Leases are for idiots. Right now I don’t know where the connection is on the new digital odometers to switch and turn on and off at my convenience. Evidently no one else here does either. This NG was simply the first facility I used to find out. Big mistake on my part. My next step will be discussing it with my friends at the Proving Grounds. I asked a simple question, and all I get for responses are a bunch of BS. What a lot of you folks don’t realize is if I post a question and you can’t answer it, then don’t reply AT ALL. You think I don’t know it’s illegal to disconnect the odometer ? DUH…

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Blake, I know how to do this on a new Dodge truck and suspect it is similar to the GM. The speed sensor comes off of the transmission just like they always have only its a 3 wire connector instead of a cable. One wire is ground, one is the speed sensor wire that goes to the computer for torque converter lockup etc. and the third wire goes to the instrument cluster. Disconnecting the entire plug causes the engine to stall when comming to a stop after the torque converter has locked. This is because the computer doesn’t know that the truck has stopped. However, disconnecting, cutting, switching, etc. of the wire that goes to the instrument cluster had no effect at all on the operation of the truck except of course the speedo and odometer won’t work. If you were to find the wire behind the dash and make your changes there it would be virtually undetectable. I found the wiring info in the electrical diagrams in the back of the Haynes manual. This being said I have heard that the computer can also keep track of the milage and the info would be retrievable via the OBD II port, but I can not verify this. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with the old analog odos. Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? So I’ve heard. Apologies to all the goody goodies on this NG. Don’t flame me too bad. Have a good one… … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.

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|There is a computer that monitors the transmission. |The speedo is wired off that computer. | |It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows |what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked. | |If you allready knew, why did you ask? | |And good luck when your leasing company finds out.. And they WILL find |out, I guarentee it. They didn’t just fall off the turnip truck. You mean, just like you did ? I never mentioned that I am leasing a vehicle with an odometer that we’re discussing. Leases are for idiots. Right now I don’t know where the connection is on the new digital odometers to switch and turn on and off at my convenience. Evidently no one else here does either. This NG was simply the first facility I used to find out. Big mistake on my part. My next step will be discussing it with my friends at the Proving Grounds. I asked a simple question, and all I get for responses are a bunch of BS. What a lot of you folks don’t realize is if I post a question and you can’t answer it, then don’t reply AT ALL. You think I don’t know it’s illegal to disconnect the odometer ? DUH…

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Hey, Junior…. You were the one who came here asking for information on how to commit a crime. If no one wants to get their ass into hot water to help you, is that a reason to tell us that we ‘don’t know anything’? And as gently as I can, may I suggest that you go to your room and sulk, little boy. Regards, GG – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – |I do believe the speedo is much more than that. I think it’s tied to the |throttle position sensor, engine vacuum and on and on……. The computer |uses the speedo to look up fuel and ignition curves in the prom. I suspect |if you disconnect it you will render your vehicle useless and have to take |it to the dealer to get the computer reset. They’ll know what you did, too. There is a computer that monitors the transmission. The speedo is wired off that computer. It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked. Usually newsgroups are a great source of experienced information, not the case here. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.

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There is a computer that monitors the transmission. The speedo is wired off that computer. It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked.

If you allready knew, why did you ask? And good luck when your leasing company finds out.. And they WILL find out, I guarentee it. They didn’t just fall off the turnip truck. — Mark, Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Remove NOSPAM to respond via Email! ICQ# 17308959 www.sledpix.dynip.com

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: Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos : on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) : : The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to : turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with : the old analog odos. : : Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? : So I’ve heard. : hmmm, why don’t you just ask the mechanically inclined person at your : lease company for help? Yeah. I mean, when you’re in jail you can’t put any more miles on the vehicle and don’t have to worry about paying extra. ;) — — Hogan Whittall ‘98 XJ

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So is smoking crack, but people do that anyway, too.

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|I do believe the speedo is much more than that. I think it’s tied to the |throttle position sensor, engine vacuum and on and on……. The computer |uses the speedo to look up fuel and ignition curves in the prom. I suspect |if you disconnect it you will render your vehicle useless and have to take |it to the dealer to get the computer reset. They’ll know what you did, too. There is a computer that monitors the transmission. The speedo is wired off that computer. It’s pretty clear nobody in this newsgroup knows what they’re talking about, so just forget I asked. Usually newsgroups are a great source of experienced information, not the case here. … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.

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hmmm, why don’t you just ask the mechanically inclined person at your lease company for help?

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I do believe the speedo is much more than that. I think it’s tied to the throttle position sensor, engine vacuum and on and on……. The computer uses the speedo to look up fuel and ignition curves in the prom. I suspect if you disconnect it you will render your vehicle useless and have to take it to the dealer to get the computer reset. They’ll know what you did, too. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with the old analog odos. Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? So I’ve heard. hmmm, why don’t you just ask the mechanically inclined person at your lease company for help?

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This is not just a matter of being a goody goody. What you are proposing to do is clearly ILLEGAL.. And it likely isn’t as easy as removing a chip anyway. — Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/9967/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with the old analog odos. Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? So I’ve heard. Apologies to all the goody goodies on this NG. Don’t flame me too bad. Have a good one… … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.

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Anyone know how to disconnect the new digital odos on S10 or full size truck/tahoe clusters ? (On like 97-99’s) The whole system could easily be wired to a switch to turn off and on (cruise still works) at will. That was with the old analog odos. Now I guess it might be as easy as removing a chip ? So I’ve heard. Apologies to all the goody goodies on this NG. Don’t flame me too bad. Have a good one… … replace "nospam" with "home" to reply email … NOTICE TO BULK EMAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US. E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms.

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