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On tonight’s news it was reported that a high percentage of technicians who administer dialysis are untrained. Would you want somebody who was flipping burgers yesterday to remove all of your blood today? Just one more reason to try and control this disease IMHO. — John Inzer pianoguy return email disabled

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My best friend Walter was trained to clean & service dialysis machines.  He went through a few months training is all, and now is working overtime to keep up with the heavy workload he is faced with, they are so understaffed. Prior to this he was a cable repairman and a computer technician.  Not flipping burgers, but still… — Mike/Moon type 1 Dx’d 1978 — It is such a secret place, the land of tears " —Antoine de Saint Exup

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yaaa, its a scam in my book also and not to be trusted. kinda like your bank selling your life and buying demographics and making you spend money to get them not to do business with you like this. usery and foulness. its like being fucked by Bushy. no pleasent nor welcomed. sumbuddie said dis – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think this is some kind of scam to get the names of single parents….I read something very similar from someone else recently……

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Dan, it seems you are a little green about relationships and internet stuff as well as a bit fragmented in your own personality, since you dont write in complete and whole thoughts; but can write in whole and complete thoughts … Like you did before with me, and I am did and still continue to do with you, its only just recently in this recent priavte missive that you decided to fragment and not talk in whole thoughts, as well as contact me privately when all the other times we have talked in the public domaine. I am not curious as to what was going on in your mind to do this, thats for you to figure out if you can. As to the other person who is showing a face that they are in Australia and not the United States and that is all you wanted to comment on, well great, thanks for sharing. I also know about the changes in SSU, I live just down the road and drive by the campus all the time. Oh by the way, I would really appreciate it if in the future you confine your contacts to me in the public domaine; it far to much work for me to deal with you privately. I am posting this so that our conversation can stay public. Thanks for thinking about me. sumbuddie said dis :*) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Dan Its not a real interest for me to triangulate with you over this person (identity unknown and purpose suspect) and what they care about or not in a supposed clinical situation.  Such action I have found to be a waste of time. I am giving her the benefit of the doubt, like I do you, that both of you have some personal interest to learn; being you claim to be in education. I am a computer programmer working primarily with accounting software.  I have very little contact at present with the instructional side.  I have no personal issue in this, I was just commenting that she appears to be in Australia, not the US. If you have some recovery issues over this Dan – go ahead and post them. This article was cross-posted to alt.parents-teens, which I follow.  The original post may or may not be legitimate, but I am suspicious, due to the cross-posting and lack of relevance to teens. Oh, and if you haven’t been to SSU for awhile, there are lots of changes. The entire flavor of the school has changed, along with a lot of new buildings.  I started at SSU as a student in 1979, so we were both here at the same time.  I joined the staff a couple of years later, so I’ve been a programmer here for about twenty years.

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Hi Dan Its not a real interest for me to triangulate with you over this person (identity unknown and purpose suspect) and what they care about or not in a supposed clinical situation.  Such action I have found to be a waste of time. I am giving her the benefit of the doubt, like I do you, that both of you have some personal interest to learn; being you claim to be in education. Which is the only reason why I am being civil to you and to the other person who you are supposing dont care about other people and their own personal hypocrisy. You know, being sick in the head. Its part of the nature of the Beast and how it always goes to it Armageddon. If you have some recovery issues over this Dan – go ahead and post them. I am trying to talk to a person who doesn’t care to be talked to or to examine their thesis and education … which I hope you know its what a thesis is all about, you know … open examination …seeing the light of day … that is if you care …. like my professors of psychology cared in my Master’s Program (Class of 83, SSU Alumni). Since this person dont care and dont care to talk about it – one could think they are not honest and their intentions are suspect …. untoward. FYI my thesis is published and in the SSU library. Its entitled "Psychogenic Health Transformations". You will notice if you care to look that Dr. Eleanor Criswell, a current Professor Of Psychology, Sonoma State University was one of the members of my Masters Committee. You can even ask her about me. Alan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Noooooooo, they wait for the patient to come to them, that is how research is done in the United States any way. Maybe she doesn’t care how we do things in the US.  Not everybody has to do things our way. — Dan Abel Sonoma State University AIS http://www.sonoma.edu/IT/AIS/people/Abel.html

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Noooooooo, they wait for the patient to come to them, that is how research is done in the United States any way.

Maybe she doesn’t care how we do things in the US.  Not everybody has to do things our way. — Dan Abel Sonoma State University AIS http://www.sonoma.edu/IT/AIS/people/Abel.html

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I think this is some kind of scam to get the names of single parents….I read something very similar from someone else recently…… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, every one, I am Winnie Lau and studying for an honours degree in pscyhology at USQ. As part of my course, I am doing a thesis, the aim of which is to investigate the behaviour of children and associated stress in parents.  In this study, there are THREE groups, "intact" two parent, single parent and foster carer.  I have started to invite the participants since last semester.  I have invited the participants at primary school and family centre.  However, there are no more single parent.  Because the due date is coming, I would like to invite the single parent via internet in order to save time. Finally, if you are (1) single parent (2) have at least one child aged between 6 and 14, please contact me.  I need your help.  If you have interested in my research, please send me your name and postal address to me. Thank you for your interest in my research. Regards, Winnie Lau

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Winnie, go away with this shit … You got boundary problems, seek therapy sweetie. Go to your thesis supervisor and delay your project, wait for you to find someone local like you did for ALL the other research participants you already have seen and personally been with. Like Cheops law, nothing gets built on time or within budget. Brain Surgeons have an 8 or 12 year internship on their time, like you are trying to save time, find another patient to practice on and make your report and get your degree. Brain Surgeons take so long to train like you are in training – cause brain surgery patients are not so frequent. Ya know you have to get it from your patient pool, and what kind of doctor goes out and rushes the patient pool for brain surgery … wants to save time. Noooooooo, they wait for the patient to come to them, that is how research is done in the United States any way. Sounds like your supervisors are really fucked ya know to let you lose like this going outside of your selected and agreed to parameters you have already followed except for just ONE participant. right. ya, sure. alan alan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, every one, I am Winnie Lau and studying for an honours degree in pscyhology at USQ. As part of my course, I am doing a thesis, the aim of which is to investigate the behaviour of children and associated stress in parents.  In this study, there are THREE groups, "intact" two parent, single parent and foster carer.  I have started to invite the participants since last semester.  I have invited the participants at primary school and family centre.  However, there are no more single parent.  Because the due date is coming, I would like to invite the single parent via internet in order to save time. Finally, if you are (1) single parent (2) have at least one child aged between 6 and 14, please contact me.  I need your help.  If you have interested in my research, please send me your name and postal address to me. Thank you for your interest in my research. Regards, Winnie Lau

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Hi, every one, I am Winnie Lau and studying for an honours degree in pscyhology at USQ. As part of my course, I am doing a thesis, the aim of which is to investigate the behaviour of children and associated stress in parents.  In this study, there are THREE groups, "intact" two parent, single parent and foster carer.  I have started to invite the participants since last semester.  I have invited the participants at primary school and family centre.  However, there are no more single parent.  Because the due date is coming, I would like to invite the single parent via internet in order to save time. Finally, if you are (1) single parent                              (2) have at least one child aged between 6 and 14, please contact me.  I need your help.  If you have interested in my research, please send me your name and postal address to me. Thank you for your interest in my research. Regards, Winnie Lau

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Other people have already told you how to do a grid, which should get you started. If you have a lot of companies, I’d suggest you modify your chart of accounts so that each intercompany relationship has a unique GL account that can only be used by those two companies. That way, all you have to do is run a consolidated TB to know whether your intercompanies are in balance (zero). Also, you mentioned eliminating intercompany transactions. That’s a whole different ballgame. Can you elaborate? Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi!  I work for a major aircraft corporation and have been tasked with consolidating our legal entities to eliminate intercompany transactions. However, I do not know where to begin.  Has anyone ever undergone this transition?  If so, what sort of time-line and items should I be focusing on? Any input about intercompany consolidations would be very much appreciated!

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Hi!  I work for a major aircraft corporation and have been tasked with consolidating our legal entities to eliminate intercompany transactions. However, I do not know where to begin.  Has anyone ever undergone this transition?  If so, what sort of time-line and items should I be focusing on? Any input about intercompany consolidations would be very much appreciated!

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Get hold of Hyperion Enterprise. I can’t imagine there’s no one in your company who wouldn’t know how to do consolidations. You can also consult any standard textbook on advanced accounting. All there is to it, however, is to have your intercompany receivables and payables that have their balances eliminated every close since all the legal entities ultimately form one parent reporting entity. There are some other implication, of course, but the majority of transactions occur throught the intercompany accounts. greg —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi!  I work for a major aircraft corporation and have been tasked with consolidating our legal entities to eliminate intercompany transactions. However, I do not know where to begin.  Has anyone ever undergone this transition?  If so, what sort of time-line and items should I be focusing on? Any input about intercompany consolidations would be very much appreciated!

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Dana, the hard part is sorting out differences between affilates e.g.  A says B owes A $120′000 and B says it is only $98′000. The differences may be goods/payments in transit at period end, disputes over transactions , exchange differences etc. Roger Standing Author of ‘AROC Performance Mewasurement’ —  http://mypage.bluewin.ch/aroc   Dana,   Here is a simple way:   If the accounting software does not do consolidation, you may create a spreadsheet.   If you have 5 companies, number them company 1, company 2, etc.   On each balance sheet set up ASSET accounts for:     a.. Due to/from Company 1     b.. Due to/from Company 2     c.. Due to/from Company 3, etc.   Break out the intercompany receivables in each company and list them separately.   Enter the balance sheet and income data from each company in its own column.   Set up a final column for consolidation   When the intercompany consolidation is complete (all added together),   the intercompany receivables/debts should net to zero for each company.   Arnold     Hi!  I work for a major aircraft corporation and have been tasked with     consolidating our legal entities to eliminate intercompany transactions.     However, I do not know where to begin.  Has anyone ever undergone this     transition?  If so, what sort of time-line and items should I be focusing     on?     Any input about intercompany consolidations would be very much appreciated!

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Dana, Here is a simple way: If the accounting software does not do consolidation, you may create a spreadsheet. If you have 5 companies, number them company 1, company 2, etc. On each balance sheet set up ASSET accounts for:    * Due to/from Company 1    * Due to/from Company 2    * Due to/from Company 3, etc. Break out the intercompany receivables in each company and list them separately. Enter the balance sheet and income data from each company in its own column. Set up a final column for consolidation When the intercompany consolidation is complete (all added together), the intercompany receivables/debts should net to zero for each company. Arnold – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi!  I work for a major aircraft corporation and have been tasked with consolidating our legal entities to eliminate intercompany transactions. However, I do not know where to begin.  Has anyone ever undergone this transition?  If so, what sort of time-line and items should I be focusing on? Any input about intercompany consolidations would be very much appreciated!

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<<What is the deal with these doctors they all seem to be telling all of us to go to pain therapy…They say the medical board is coming down on them and they have to justify the meds so there for we have to go to pain therapy..>> That could be true.  Here’s a website though that might be able to help you.   Action Pain (Information, links and pain advocacy.)     http://www.actiononpain.org/ Sandra

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In article <9697-3A0B63C3…@storefull-224.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, KL…@webtv.net wrote >What is the deal with these doctors they all seem to be telling all of >us to go to pain therapy.

Two guesses.. (a) trials have shown it works better than long-term pills (b) accountants have shown it costs less than long-term pills. Be an optimist – try it!   — Andy For Austrian philately <URL: http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/austamps/> For Lupus <URL: http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/lupus/> For my other interests <URL: http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/>

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On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:25:13 +0000, you wrote: >In article <9697-3A0B63C3…@storefull-224.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, >KL…@webtv.net wrote >>What is the deal with these doctors they all seem to be telling all of >>us to go to pain therapy. >Two guesses.. (a) trials have shown it works better than long-term pills >(b) accountants have shown it costs less than long-term pills. >Be an optimist – try it!  

I do think biofeedback and meditation and exercise can be very helpful in this area.  But I think it should be a synergism – that the pain specialist and the meds can work together.  I was so pleased yesterday when the doc didn’t even approach the pain specialist thing again – she saw I was handling things (except the migraines) and that I wasn’t losing my mind over the pain.   I do think it’s worth checking into if you are really suffering and the pain meds are not enough.  And besides, it would be nice to be able to decrease meds.  BUT – that said – if they give you any lip about being on too many meds and wanting you off them completely then I’d say they are not worth the time.  I’m sure there are good Pain docs out there that understand the necessity to work with the patient and their meds and not just take over and want to make us all happy little meditators…   I guess my biggest problem was that the first one that the doc was going to send me to won’t treat patients with an FM diagnosis which right away says this person doesn’t understand pain syndromes.  I later discovered this is the same person  my lupus group warned me away from as apparently he is shot-happy – everywhere you have a complaint of pain he pops you with some anti-inflammatory/mtx combo shot and then sends you home.  So it’s as catch-as-catch can as a rheumy or any other specialist.   Good luck hon.  I haven’t given up on the pain doc myself – I just am putting it off to try these other avenues to see if they help first.   Take care, *********************************** KCat – I am not a medical professional.  The contents of this post are based soley on my experiences and opinions http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/mypage.htm http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/aslfaq20.htm   ("`-”-/").___..–”"`-._   (`6_ 6  )   `-.  (     ).`-.__.’`)    (_Y_.)’  ._   )  `._ `. “-..-”   _..`–’_..-_/  /–’_.’ ,’ (()),-”  (()),’    (((.-’

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Hi Everybody–The pain clinic question–1–Drs. have been telling me for ahwile how hard it is to keep their patients out of pain or relativly[sp] so with-out having to justify every prescription. 2-I have also tried massage-physical therapy-"Riki"[laying of hands to feel hot spots and help w/pain] 3Chiroprctor-4 walking and stretching exercises 5some herbals 5deep massage[when affordable] 6 moist heat 7 Tends Machine and more that I can not remember at this time–am currious about accupuncture and hypnosis though. I do medditate and am lucky enough to have a chair w/built in upper body massage. So–as far as the pain clinic thing–if you decide or anyone here decides to do so–please let me know your re-actions and if anything I have not mentioned up above that is differrent. Oh I know this may sound whimpy-but Arrommatherepy[sp]–Lavender if you can handle that scent or vanilla are good relaxers. Take Care—Lar

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What is the deal with these doctors they all seem to be telling all of us to go to pain therapy. I just got referred to one myself and I am sure all of you are as tiried of this bull as me. It seems we hurt 99% of the time and then they make us fill like idiots for it . My doc says he knows I need them but then he never gives me refills and then he only gives  about 13 days of pills that I make last a month then have to beg borrow and beg  to get more. So is it just me or what. They say the medical board is coming down on them and  they have to justify the meds so there for we have to go to pain therapy and like Kcat says I am sick of going to new doctors and going thru the song and dance. So now that I got that off my chest if anybody has any suggestions they are welcome. THANKS GUYS FOR BEEN THERE   Talk at you later         Kristi

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Thanks, Mike I will be sure to check it out. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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Mike- Paul A. Thomas referred me to you. I just had a simple question about QuickBooks, Is it compatible with any time card systems? Sarah S. Got questions?  Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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Mike- Paul A. Thomas referred me to you. I just had a simple question about QuickBooks, Is it compatible with any time card systems? Sarah S.

Hi Sarah: Among the many QuickBooks Add-ons on my http://www.blocktax.com/ web site are several time keeping programs. As far as I know neither QB nor any of these use time clocks (I presume that is what you mean by tune card). A program not on my site, which integrates with QB, is industry leader http://timeslips.com/ If you look through their add-ons, and go through the sites of the other time programs on my site, you should find something. Please let us know.   Mike Block, Tax Fighting C.P.A.  World’s #1 QuickBooks Top Tester   FREE 462p QB book/error codes/ 80 QB add-ons http://blocktax.com/ Spam bait (credit E. Needham):

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about Bayliners (Maxum) which was not at all intended as a bash was replied to by another member of this NG who posts here often. I’ve been reading and ignoring the seemingly endless tirade for over two years now. the twisting of words and thier meaning has confirmed my initial impression of one of the  most famous posters to this newsgroup.<snip

This is a very interesting post.  It seems it is permissible to present an honest personal opinion on just about anything on this NG without getting too beaten up over it.  After all, it’s just an opinion. Almost anything except a Bayliner. Why it is that Skipper, et al, feel the need to defend any criticism of Bayliner boats is beyond me.  My God, man, these are only opinions.  They hurt no one and no thing.  A thousand posts per day, critical of Bayliners, could appear here and Bayliner would continue to sell more boats than anyone else. Most posts critical of Bayliners come from responses to one of two types of post. First, posts from newbies seeking advice.  Second, posts from Bayliner fans saying any criticism of Bayliners is hogwash.  The second type of post could be called trolling(?), I believe, because the purpose is to generate a response, not to provide information or to seek information. All part of the fun, I guess. Butch

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Just be glad you didn’t buy one of those %^$#(*&^ Icom’s 45, they will cut your finger off. — — Jim I have a dirty mind, I mud wrestle with my conscience.

|I recently posted a message to this newsgroup, something I rarely do, (yes you |can AND WILL  check me out in Dejanews if you have the time to spend) | |I was amused at how a recent, (and RARE) post I made  about Bayliners (Maxum) |which was not at all intended as a bash was replied to by another member of |this NG who posts here often. I’ve been reading and ignoring the seemingly |endless tirade for over two years now. the twisting of words and thier meaning |has confirmed my initial impression of one of the  most famous posters to this |newsgroup. | |I offer the following: | |My original post of 3-8-99 in it’s entirety, followed by the replies. | |If you aree interested, or care to read any further, here it is: | | |ORIGINAL POST | |To: rec.boats | |I owned a similar, 1993 Maxum bowrider runabout 1900XR (bayliner in fancy trim) |with 150HP Force ourboard. | |This was my first boat. | |After (lurking mostly) on this NG for two, almost three years and as a former |Bayliner owner I have to agree with the majority of the posts regarding the |construction, hardware and ride of the Bayliner product. | |This boat represents a very reasonable value if it is going to be used |exclusively on very calm CALM lakes. I live on the gulf coast of Florida and |this boat will get you and your passengers very WET in anything barely over a |light chop. Afternoon winds from the west generally make the bay much too rough |for a pleasant experience, even on a calm day. Anytime you go through a wake, |be prepared for a POUNDING, both from the water, and your better half. Yes, it |still POUNDS even when you take the wake at the correct angle, boat attitude, |trim and speed. It’s the BOAT! | |The FORCE 150 5 cylinder engine provided satisfactory service, with no major |internal engine failures except the electronic ignition module failed twice |within wo weeks, nearly a 400.00 repair. | |This boat was used extensively around Sarasota Bay and was trailered to Key |West once. It is not suitable to be in the gulf of mexico, even near shore |except on the calmest of calm days. | |This boat provided my family a great deal of fun, was just the right size for a |"beginner" and was reasonable to operate and maintain. | |My second boat is a Grady White 22′ Seafarer. | |I cannot begin to tell you the difference between the two craft. I installed a |fishfinder, speed and temp transducer on the Bayliner transom. When I installed |trim tabs on the GW I COULDN’T BELIEVE the difference in the the thickness of |the transom, as wellas the layers of glass and wood. Same is true for the dash |panel, (installed a GPS) and side panels. Just an amazing craft. The ride in a |chop is uncomparable and to this day, every time we cross a wake, we are still |amazed by this vessels ability to slice through the water, the windshield |rarely gets wet. On the Bayliner it took so little to get everyone wet, not so |on the GW. | |I realize the bayliner was 3′ shorter AND was a different design, bowrider vs |WAC, however they were both deep V hulls. The GW has the newer style V2 hull |design. and is only 50 HP higher (200) than the Bayliner. What a world of |difference. The electrical system, fuse block, ease of access to hatches, |quality of stainless and cushions, the whole boat, I couldn’t be more pleased. | |For a time I was considering a new Bayliner Trophy, 2503 model. This seemed a |very good value for the money. After comparing the two craft there trul;y IS a |difference. Harry has provided me with some very sound advice. Everything he |discussed with me during our short correspondence has been borne out as true. | |So here it is from an actual Bayliner owner, not a horror story, but a true |experience. I ID Dleave out the part about running the inlet, a one time |experience in the BAyliner that was NEver repeated. | |Good Luck. | |THE REPLIES: | |You trying to tell us that a 19′ Maxum bowrider runabout is not suitable |for venturing far offshore into the Gulf of Mexico in heavy seas… AND |you expect us to believe it. | |BTW, welcome to Harry’s NAYvee. | |– |Skipper |

| You trying to tell us that a 19′ Maxum bowrider runabout is not | suitable for venturing far offshore into the Gulf of Mexico in heavy | seas… AND you expect us to believe it. BTW, welcome to Harry’s NAYvee. | Hmmm. Are you deliberately misquoting again, Slippy? The guy said: | "This boat was used extensively around Sarasota Bay and was trailered | to Key West once. It is not suitable to be in the gulf of mexico, even | near shore except on the calmest of calm days." | How does that transmogrify into *your* quote? Mirrors? |Was he talking about a Bayliner or Maxum?  The NG does not need another |Bayliner bash.  Hell Harry, I thought you understood my agreement with |his contention that this *particular* boat is better used somewhere |other than the Gulf of Mexico. I’ve fished the rigs off Louisiana and |Texas. That water can get VERY rough in a flash. |Who do you know that would recommend ANY 19′ bowrider be taken into the |Gulf with regularly?–Skipper | |

| I’m not a big fan of bowriders under any circumstances, and I agree | that the smaller ones, if taken out in the Atlantic, should be used | with extreme caution. The Gulf is a different body of water | altogether, with many more calm days, especially near shore. |Obviously, our mileage in the Gulf of Mexico off Texas and Louisiana |varies. I’ve seen it get very treacherous in a hurry with short steep |and deep waves.–Skipper | | |Gee guys, I was TALKING about running this boat around Longboat Key, NOT |OFFSHORE, I’m talking about running around the island and in the bay. | |What’s wrong with these people. I don’t understand thier "religous fervor" at |all. | |So I suppose I’ll just go back to lurking. | |THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT

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<discussion of experience with his first two boats, one BL, one Otherwise BTW, thanks for an objective, well-reasoned accounting of your own observations.  In a perfect world, that would be exactly what the NG is primarily about–and if I can ever figure out how to set filters using AOL to browse, I’ll get closer to it. Takehome lesson is the painfully obvious one which has been both pointed out and ignored ad infinitum, ad nauseam in these threads:  No boat does everything well, or lands in the same place along all of the axes that have to be compromised to get a real-world item.  You obiously accomplished something useful with both of yours–a cheap introduction to the fun, and then a machine well tailored to what you found out you like to do.  Sounds to me like what it’s supposed to be– Craig

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When you put hairy, flipper, ref & roger in the "from" filter and "Bayliner" in the subject filter you do not even have to ignore them.  They just aren’t there anymore.  It is amazing the different flavor that the NG takes on without all that static.  Adding "hairy" to the subject filter should just about clean up the mess. G. Schnauzer When I see Skipper attacking someone for expressing a very valid opinion of a boat, it just shows how insecure he is.  Just ignore Skipper whenever he gets into his attack dog status, and ignore Harry when he is discussing Bayliner and you will enjoy the show much more. — — Jim It is always darkest just before you turn on the lights. |I recently posted a message to this newsgroup, something I rarely do, (yes you |can AND WILL  check me out in Dejanews if you have the time to spend) | |I was amused at how a recent, (and RARE) post I made  about Bayliners (Maxum) |which was not at all intended as a bash was replied to by another member of |this NG who posts here often. I’ve been reading and ignoring the seemingly |endless tirade for over two years now. the twisting of words and thier meaning |has confirmed my initial impression of one of the  most famous posters to this |newsgroup. | |I offer the following: | |My original post of 3-8-99 in it’s entirety, followed by the replies. | |If you aree interested, or care to read any further, here it is: | | |ORIGINAL POST | |To: rec.boats | |I owned a similar, 1993 Maxum bowrider runabout 1900XR (bayliner in fancy trim) |with 150HP Force ourboard. | |This was my first boat. | |After (lurking mostly) on this NG for two, almost three years and as a former |Bayliner owner I have to agree with the majority of the posts regarding the |construction, hardware and ride of the Bayliner product. | |This boat represents a very reasonable value if it is going to be used |exclusively on very calm CALM lakes. I live on the gulf coast of Florida and |this boat will get you and your passengers very WET in anything barely over a |light chop. Afternoon winds from the west generally make the bay much too rough |for a pleasant experience, even on a calm day. Anytime you go through a wake, |be prepared for a POUNDING, both from the water, and your better half. Yes, it |still POUNDS even when you take the wake at the correct angle, boat attitude, |trim and speed. It’s the BOAT! | |The FORCE 150 5 cylinder engine provided satisfactory service, with no major |internal engine failures except the electronic ignition module failed twice |within wo weeks, nearly a 400.00 repair. | |This boat was used extensively around Sarasota Bay and was trailered to Key |West once. It is not suitable to be in the gulf of mexico, even near shore |except on the calmest of calm days. | |This boat provided my family a great deal of fun, was just the right size for a |"beginner" and was reasonable to operate and maintain. | |My second boat is a Grady White 22′ Seafarer. | |I cannot begin to tell you the difference between the two craft. I installed a |fishfinder, speed and temp transducer on the Bayliner transom. When I installed |trim tabs on the GW I COULDN’T BELIEVE the difference in the the thickness of |the transom, as wellas the layers of glass and wood. Same is true for the dash |panel, (installed a GPS) and side panels. Just an amazing craft. The ride in a |chop is uncomparable and to this day, every time we cross a wake, we are still |amazed by this vessels ability to slice through the water, the windshield |rarely gets wet. On the Bayliner it took so little to get everyone wet, not so |on the GW. | |I realize the bayliner was 3′ shorter AND was a different design, bowrider vs |WAC, however they were both deep V hulls. The GW has the newer style V2 hull |design. and is only 50 HP higher (200) than the Bayliner. What a world of |difference. The electrical system, fuse block, ease of access to hatches, |quality of stainless and cushions, the whole boat, I couldn’t be more pleased. | |For a time I was considering a new Bayliner Trophy, 2503 model. This seemed a |very good value for the money. After comparing the two craft there trul;y IS a |difference. Harry has provided me with some very sound advice. Everything he |discussed with me during our short correspondence has been borne out as true. | |So here it is from an actual Bayliner owner, not a horror story, but a true |experience. I ID Dleave out the part about running the inlet, a one time |experience in the BAyliner that was NEver repeated. | |Good Luck. | |THE REPLIES: | |You trying to tell us that a 19′ Maxum bowrider runabout is not suitable |for venturing far offshore into the Gulf of Mexico in heavy seas… AND |you expect us to believe it. | |BTW, welcome to Harry’s NAYvee. | |– |Skipper | | You trying to tell us that a 19′ Maxum bowrider runabout is not | suitable for venturing far offshore into the Gulf of Mexico in heavy | seas… AND you expect us to believe it. BTW, welcome to Harry’s NAYvee. | Hmmm. Are you deliberately misquoting again, Slippy? The guy said: | "This boat was used extensively around Sarasota Bay and was trailered | to Key West once. It is not suitable to be in the gulf of mexico, even | near shore except on the calmest of calm days." | How does that transmogrify into *your* quote? Mirrors? |Was he talking about a Bayliner or Maxum?  The NG does not need another |Bayliner bash.  Hell Harry, I thought you understood my agreement with |his contention that this *particular* boat is better used somewhere |other than the Gulf of Mexico. I’ve fished the rigs off Louisiana and |Texas. That water can get VERY rough in a flash. |Who do you know that would recommend ANY 19′ bowrider be taken into the |Gulf with regularly?–Skipper | | | I’m not a big fan of bowriders under any circumstances, and I agree | that the smaller ones, if taken out in the Atlantic, should be used | with extreme caution. The Gulf is a different body of water | altogether, with many more calm days, especially near shore. |Obviously, our mileage in the Gulf of Mexico off Texas and Louisiana |varies. I’ve seen it get very treacherous in a hurry with short steep |and deep waves.–Skipper | | |Gee guys, I was TALKING about running this boat around Longboat Key, NOT |OFFSHORE, I’m talking about running around the island and in the bay. | |What’s wrong with these people. I don’t understand thier "religous fervor" at |all. | |So I suppose I’ll just go back to lurking. | |THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT

You know, I’ve been thinking of filtering out those newsgroup posters who *NEVER* post anything of value… Like Abou Ben Adam, Schnauzer’s name leads the list. — Harry Krause – - – - – - – - – - – - Do televangelists do more than lay people?

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I recently posted a message to this newsgroup, something I rarely do, (yes you can AND WILL  check me out in Dejanews if you have the time to spend) I was amused at how a recent, (and RARE) post I made  about Bayliners (Maxum) which was not at all intended as a bash was replied to by another member of this NG who posts here often. I’ve been reading and ignoring the seemingly endless tirade for over two years now. the twisting of words and thier meaning has confirmed my initial impression of one of the  most famous posters to this newsgroup. I offer the following: My original post of 3-8-99 in it’s entirety, followed by the replies. If you aree interested, or care to read any further, here it is: ORIGINAL POST To:     rec.boats I owned a similar, 1993 Maxum bowrider runabout 1900XR (bayliner in fancy trim) with 150HP Force ourboard. This was my first boat. After (lurking mostly) on this NG for two, almost three years and as a former Bayliner owner I have to agree with the majority of the posts regarding the construction, hardware and ride of the Bayliner product. This boat represents a very reasonable value if it is going to be used exclusively on very calm CALM lakes. I live on the gulf coast of Florida and this boat will get you and your passengers very WET in anything barely over a light chop. Afternoon winds from the west generally make the bay much too rough for a pleasant experience, even on a calm day. Anytime you go through a wake, be prepared for a POUNDING, both from the water, and your better half. Yes, it still POUNDS even when you take the wake at the correct angle, boat attitude, trim and speed. It’s the BOAT! The FORCE 150 5 cylinder engine provided satisfactory service, with no major internal engine failures except the electronic ignition module failed twice within wo weeks, nearly a 400.00 repair. This boat was used extensively around Sarasota Bay and was trailered to Key West once. It is not suitable to be in the gulf of mexico, even near shore except on the calmest of calm days. This boat provided my family a great deal of fun, was just the right size for a "beginner" and was reasonable to operate and maintain. My second boat is a Grady White 22′ Seafarer. I cannot begin to tell you the difference between the two craft. I installed a fishfinder, speed and temp transducer on the Bayliner transom. When I installed trim tabs on the GW I COULDN’T BELIEVE the difference in the the thickness of the transom, as wellas the layers of glass and wood. Same is true for the dash panel, (installed a GPS) and side panels. Just an amazing craft. The ride in a chop is uncomparable and to this day, every time we cross a wake, we are still amazed by this vessels ability to slice through the water, the windshield rarely gets wet. On the Bayliner it took so little to get everyone wet, not so on the GW. I realize the bayliner was 3′ shorter AND was a different design, bowrider vs WAC, however they were both deep V hulls. The GW has the newer style V2 hull design. and is only 50 HP higher (200) than the Bayliner. What a world of difference. The electrical system, fuse block, ease of access to hatches, quality of stainless and cushions, the whole boat, I couldn’t be more pleased. For a time I was considering a new Bayliner Trophy, 2503 model. This seemed a very good value for the money. After comparing the two craft there trul;y IS a difference. Harry has provided me with some very sound advice. Everything he discussed with me during our short correspondence has been borne out as true. So here it is from an actual Bayliner owner, not a horror story, but a true experience. I ID Dleave out the part about running the inlet, a one time experience in the BAyliner that was NEver repeated. Good Luck. THE REPLIES: You trying to tell us that a 19′ Maxum bowrider runabout is not suitable for venturing far offshore into the Gulf of Mexico in heavy seas… AND you expect us to believe it. BTW, welcome to Harry’s NAYvee. — Skipper You trying to tell us that a 19′ Maxum bowrider runabout is not suitable for venturing far offshore into the Gulf of Mexico in heavy seas… AND you expect us to believe it. BTW, welcome to Harry’s NAYvee. Hmmm. Are you deliberately misquoting again, Slippy? The guy said: "This boat was used extensively around Sarasota Bay and was trailered to Key West once. It is not suitable to be in the gulf of mexico, even near shore except on the calmest of calm days." How does that transmogrify into *your* quote? Mirrors?

Was he talking about a Bayliner or Maxum?  The NG does not need another Bayliner bash.  Hell Harry, I thought you understood my agreement with his contention that this *particular* boat is better used somewhere other than the Gulf of Mexico. I’ve fished the rigs off Louisiana and Texas. That water can get VERY rough in a flash. Who do you know that would recommend ANY 19′ bowrider be taken into the Gulf with regularly?–Skipper I’m not a big fan of bowriders under any circumstances, and I agree that the smaller ones, if taken out in the Atlantic, should be used with extreme caution. The Gulf is a different body of water altogether, with many more calm days, especially near shore.

Obviously, our mileage in the Gulf of Mexico off Texas and Louisiana varies. I’ve seen it get very treacherous in a hurry with short steep and deep waves.–Skipper Gee guys, I was TALKING about running this boat around Longboat Key, NOT OFFSHORE, I’m talking about running around the island and in the bay. What’s wrong with these people. I don’t understand thier "religous fervor" at all. So I suppose I’ll just go back to lurking. THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT

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When you put hairy, flipper, ref & roger in the "from" filter and "Bayliner" in the subject filter you do not even have to ignore them.  They just aren’t there anymore.  It is amazing the different flavor that the NG takes on without all that static.  Adding "hairy" to the subject filter should just about clean up the mess. G. Schnauzer

When I see Skipper attacking someone for expressing a very valid opinion of a boat, it just shows how insecure he is.  Just ignore Skipper whenever he gets into his attack dog status, and ignore Harry when he is discussing Bayliner and you will enjoy the show much more. — — Jim It is always darkest just before you turn on the lights.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -|I recently posted a message to this newsgroup, something I rarely do, (yes you |can AND WILL  check me out in Dejanews if you have the time to spend) | |I was amused at how a recent, (and RARE) post I made  about Bayliners (Maxum) |which was not at all intended as a bash was replied to by another member of |this NG who posts here often. I’ve been reading and ignoring the seemingly |endless tirade for over two years now. the twisting of words and thier meaning |has confirmed my initial impression of one of the  most famous posters to this |newsgroup. | |I offer the following: | |My original post of 3-8-99 in it’s entirety, followed by the replies. | |If you aree interested, or care to read any further, here it is: | | |ORIGINAL POST | |To: rec.boats | |I owned a similar, 1993 Maxum bowrider runabout 1900XR (bayliner in fancy trim) |with 150HP Force ourboard. | |This was my first boat. | |After (lurking mostly) on this NG for two, almost three years and as a former |Bayliner owner I have to agree with the majority of the posts regarding the |construction, hardware and ride of the Bayliner product. | |This boat represents a very reasonable value if it is going to be used |exclusively on very calm CALM lakes. I live on the gulf coast of Florida and |this boat will get you and your passengers very WET in anything barely over a |light chop. Afternoon winds from the west generally make the bay much too rough |for a pleasant experience, even on a calm day. Anytime you go through a wake, |be prepared for a POUNDING, both from the water, and your better half. Yes, it |still POUNDS even when you take the wake at the correct angle, boat attitude, |trim and speed. It’s the BOAT! | |The FORCE 150 5 cylinder engine provided satisfactory service, with no major |internal engine failures except the electronic ignition module failed twice |within wo weeks, nearly a 400.00 repair. | |This boat was used extensively around Sarasota Bay and was trailered to Key |West once. It is not suitable to be in the gulf of mexico, even near shore |except on the calmest of calm days. | |This boat provided my family a great deal of fun, was just the right size for a |"beginner" and was reasonable to operate and maintain. | |My second boat is a Grady White 22′ Seafarer. | |I cannot begin to tell you the difference between the two craft. I installed a |fishfinder, speed and temp transducer on the Bayliner transom. When I installed |trim tabs on the GW I COULDN’T BELIEVE the difference in the the thickness of |the transom, as wellas the layers of glass and wood. Same is true for the dash |panel, (installed a GPS) and side panels. Just an amazing craft. The ride in a |chop is uncomparable and to this day, every time we cross a wake, we are still |amazed by this vessels ability to slice through the water, the windshield |rarely gets wet. On the Bayliner it took so little to get everyone wet, not so |on the GW. | |I realize the bayliner was 3′ shorter AND was a different design, bowrider vs |WAC, however they were both deep V hulls. The GW has the newer style V2 hull |design. and is only 50 HP higher (200) than the Bayliner. What a world of |difference. The electrical system, fuse block, ease of access to hatches, |quality of stainless and cushions, the whole boat, I couldn’t be more pleased. | |For a time I was considering a new Bayliner Trophy, 2503 model. This seemed a |very good value for the money. After comparing the two craft there trul;y IS a |difference. Harry has provided me with some very sound advice. Everything he |discussed with me during our short correspondence has been borne out as true. | |So here it is from an actual Bayliner owner, not a horror story, but a true |experience. I ID Dleave out the part about running the inlet, a one time |experience in the BAyliner that was NEver repeated. | |Good Luck. | |THE REPLIES: | |You trying to tell us that a 19′ Maxum bowrider runabout is not suitable |for venturing far offshore into the Gulf of Mexico in heavy seas… AND |you expect us to believe it. | |BTW, welcome to Harry’s NAYvee. | |– |Skipper | | You trying to tell us that a 19′ Maxum bowrider runabout is not | suitable for venturing far offshore into the Gulf of Mexico in heavy | seas… AND you expect us to believe it. BTW, welcome to Harry’s NAYvee. | Hmmm. Are you deliberately misquoting again, Slippy? The guy said: | "This boat was used extensively around Sarasota Bay and was trailered | to Key West once. It is not suitable to be in the gulf of mexico, even | near shore except on the calmest of calm days." | How does that transmogrify into *your* quote? Mirrors? |Was he talking about a Bayliner or Maxum?  The NG does not need another |Bayliner bash.  Hell Harry, I thought you understood my agreement with |his contention that this *particular* boat is better used somewhere |other than the Gulf of Mexico. I’ve fished the rigs off Louisiana and |Texas. That water can get VERY rough in a flash. |Who do you know that would recommend ANY 19′ bowrider be taken into the |Gulf with regularly?–Skipper | | | I’m not a big fan of bowriders under any circumstances, and I agree | that the smaller ones, if taken out in the Atlantic, should be used | with extreme caution. The Gulf is a different body of water | altogether, with many more calm days, especially near shore. |Obviously, our mileage in the Gulf of Mexico off Texas and Louisiana |varies. I’ve seen it get very treacherous in a hurry with short steep |and deep waves.–Skipper | | |Gee guys, I was TALKING about running this boat around Longboat Key, NOT |OFFSHORE, I’m talking about running around the island and in the bay. | |What’s wrong with these people. I don’t understand thier "religous fervor" at |all. | |So I suppose I’ll just go back to lurking. | |THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT

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When I see Skipper attacking someone for expressing a very valid opinion of a boat, it just shows how insecure he is.  Just ignore Skipper whenever he gets into his attack dog status, and ignore Harry when he is discussing Bayliner and you will enjoy the show much more. — — Jim It is always darkest just before you turn on the lights.

|I recently posted a message to this newsgroup, something I rarely do, (yes you |can AND WILL  check me out in Dejanews if you have the time to spend) | |I was amused at how a recent, (and RARE) post I made  about Bayliners (Maxum) |which was not at all intended as a bash was replied to by another member of |this NG who posts here often. I’ve been reading and ignoring the seemingly |endless tirade for over two years now. the twisting of words and thier meaning |has confirmed my initial impression of one of the  most famous posters to this |newsgroup. | |I offer the following: | |My original post of 3-8-99 in it’s entirety, followed by the replies. | |If you aree interested, or care to read any further, here it is: | | |ORIGINAL POST | |To: rec.boats | |I owned a similar, 1993 Maxum bowrider runabout 1900XR (bayliner in fancy trim) |with 150HP Force ourboard. | |This was my first boat. | |After (lurking mostly) on this NG for two, almost three years and as a former |Bayliner owner I have to agree with the majority of the posts regarding the |construction, hardware and ride of the Bayliner product. | |This boat represents a very reasonable value if it is going to be used |exclusively on very calm CALM lakes. I live on the gulf coast of Florida and |this boat will get you and your passengers very WET in anything barely over a |light chop. Afternoon winds from the west generally make the bay much too rough |for a pleasant experience, even on a calm day. Anytime you go through a wake, |be prepared for a POUNDING, both from the water, and your better half. Yes, it |still POUNDS even when you take the wake at the correct angle, boat attitude, |trim and speed. It’s the BOAT! | |The FORCE 150 5 cylinder engine provided satisfactory service, with no major |internal engine failures except the electronic ignition module failed twice |within wo weeks, nearly a 400.00 repair. | |This boat was used extensively around Sarasota Bay and was trailered to Key |West once. It is not suitable to be in the gulf of mexico, even near shore |except on the calmest of calm days. | |This boat provided my family a great deal of fun, was just the right size for a |"beginner" and was reasonable to operate and maintain. | |My second boat is a Grady White 22′ Seafarer. | |I cannot begin to tell you the difference between the two craft. I installed a |fishfinder, speed and temp transducer on the Bayliner transom. When I installed |trim tabs on the GW I COULDN’T BELIEVE the difference in the the thickness of |the transom, as wellas the layers of glass and wood. Same is true for the dash |panel, (installed a GPS) and side panels. Just an amazing craft. The ride in a |chop is uncomparable and to this day, every time we cross a wake, we are still |amazed by this vessels ability to slice through the water, the windshield |rarely gets wet. On the Bayliner it took so little to get everyone wet, not so |on the GW. | |I realize the bayliner was 3′ shorter AND was a different design, bowrider vs |WAC, however they were both deep V hulls. The GW has the newer style V2 hull |design. and is only 50 HP higher (200) than the Bayliner. What a world of |difference. The electrical system, fuse block, ease of access to hatches, |quality of stainless and cushions, the whole boat, I couldn’t be more pleased. | |For a time I was considering a new Bayliner Trophy, 2503 model. This seemed a |very good value for the money. After comparing the two craft there trul;y IS a |difference. Harry has provided me with some very sound advice. Everything he |discussed with me during our short correspondence has been borne out as true. | |So here it is from an actual Bayliner owner, not a horror story, but a true |experience. I ID Dleave out the part about running the inlet, a one time |experience in the BAyliner that was NEver repeated. | |Good Luck. | |THE REPLIES: | |You trying to tell us that a 19′ Maxum bowrider runabout is not suitable |for venturing far offshore into the Gulf of Mexico in heavy seas… AND |you expect us to believe it. | |BTW, welcome to Harry’s NAYvee. | |– |Skipper |

| You trying to tell us that a 19′ Maxum bowrider runabout is not | suitable for venturing far offshore into the Gulf of Mexico in heavy | seas… AND you expect us to believe it. BTW, welcome to Harry’s NAYvee. | Hmmm. Are you deliberately misquoting again, Slippy? The guy said: | "This boat was used extensively around Sarasota Bay and was trailered | to Key West once. It is not suitable to be in the gulf of mexico, even | near shore except on the calmest of calm days." | How does that transmogrify into *your* quote? Mirrors? |Was he talking about a Bayliner or Maxum?  The NG does not need another |Bayliner bash.  Hell Harry, I thought you understood my agreement with |his contention that this *particular* boat is better used somewhere |other than the Gulf of Mexico. I’ve fished the rigs off Louisiana and |Texas. That water can get VERY rough in a flash. |Who do you know that would recommend ANY 19′ bowrider be taken into the |Gulf with regularly?–Skipper | |

| I’m not a big fan of bowriders under any circumstances, and I agree | that the smaller ones, if taken out in the Atlantic, should be used | with extreme caution. The Gulf is a different body of water | altogether, with many more calm days, especially near shore. |Obviously, our mileage in the Gulf of Mexico off Texas and Louisiana |varies. I’ve seen it get very treacherous in a hurry with short steep |and deep waves.–Skipper | | |Gee guys, I was TALKING about running this boat around Longboat Key, NOT |OFFSHORE, I’m talking about running around the island and in the bay. | |What’s wrong with these people. I don’t understand thier "religous fervor" at |all. | |So I suppose I’ll just go back to lurking. | |THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT

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I have set up the terms e.g. 2% 10 Net 30 and associated it with the customer. I then send out invoice to customer for e.g. 10-00 ukp Then when I receive payment 5 days later for 9-80 ukp and enter this into Quickbooks against the invoice it still shows up as 20p outstanding. I was expecting the discount of 2% to cause this invoice to be closed. Can anyone explain how Quickbooks deals with discounts? Thanks Alan

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I then send out invoice to customer for e.g. 10-00 ukp Then when I receive payment 5 days later for 9-80 ukp and enter this into Quickbooks against the invoice it still shows up as 20p outstanding. I was expecting the discount of 2% to cause this invoice to be closed.

In the Receive Payment window, enter the amount of payment and select the invoice (or first of more than one) to apply it to.  Then click the DISCOUNT INFO button and accept or edit the data.   QB probably does it this way because the customer may calculate the discount differently from you and you may either agree or disagree with him.

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I then send out invoice to customer for e.g. 10-00 ukp Then when I receive payment 5 days later for 9-80 ukp and enter this into Quickbooks against the invoice it still shows up as 20p outstanding. I was expecting the discount of 2% to cause this invoice to be closed. In the Receive Payment window, enter the amount of payment and select the invoice (or first of more than one) to apply it to.  Then click the DISCOUNT INFO button and accept or edit the data.   QB probably does it this way because the customer may calculate the discount differently from you and you may either agree or disagree with him.

Unfortunately my UK version 5.0 doesn’t have a DISCOUNT INFO button! It displays a date up to which the discount applies, but doesn’t appear to act upon it. Any further ideas please? cheers Alan —-

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I would be grateful if someone can recommend a good book on Trust Accounting or even a good WWW site. Thanks Derek

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Can any one help re quickbooks, I need to change the cheque printing alignment to work with standard UK cheques. Quickbooks only suggestion was to order from their suppliers special printed cheques. unfortunately this is not practical for my purposes

QB has versions (at www.intuit.com/int-international/) for 21 countries (Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, Columbia, Costa Rica, Chile, Ecuador, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Japan, Mexico, Philippines, Singapore, South Africa, Spain, Thailand, United Kingdom, Uruguay and Venezuela). Each uses the standard checks (cheques) for the country. For non-standard ones you need some other program. checkmagic.com has a routine that lets QB print complete checks, including micr information. It uses the standard USA QB layout, but allows some customizing. They might customize something for you, but it could be expensive. Mike Block, Tax Fighting C.P.A., 954-566-7540, fax 7541 QuickBooks Prof. Advisor & Official #1 QB 6 Beta Tester   biz.comp.accounting co-moderator for spam free news    275 E Oakland Park Blvd, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33334

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My name is Dan Richardson. I have a simple program for sale that will create an Access Database from your Lists and tansactions. This program attaches to the QuickBooks Main Menu for easy access allowing on the fly creation. Almost like it is part of QuickBooks itself. 3 Steps and all your data is loaded: 1. Select QBAccess off the QuickBooks Main Menu. 2. Specify database name to create 3. Push the Create Button. Nothing can be any easier or more accurate. Cost is only $29.00. 30 Day Money Back Guarantee. Call 800 775-3242 to place an order. All major credit cards accepted. Dan

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Can any one help re quickbooks, I need to change the cheque printing alignment to work with standard UK cheques. Quickbooks only suggestion was to order from their suppliers special printed cheques. unfortunately this is not practical for my purposes

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Hi to everyone in this group. I’m starting a new business and decided to use Simply Accounting as my financial software.  I can’t figure out how to add money I have used from my personal account for start-up costs.  The manuals are confusing.  Would anyone from this newsgroup know how I add this amount to my opening/starting balance?  Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Dominic

Dominic: Set up an account in the owner’s equity range (3000 or some people use the end of the 5000 range for owners draws and investments) if you are a sole prop. , a due to shareholder account in the 2000’s if it is a corp. Assume you "sold a vehicle, a computer, some supplies and paid some start up legal cost out of your own pocket (before or after startup, it doesn’t matter) DR. asset – Computer                            3000.00 DR. asset Vehicle                                   8000.00 Dr. Expense supplies                                500.00 DR. Expense Legal                                    600.00     CR. Due to shareholder or Prop Invest.                12,100.00 (through the general journal.) Bill

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Hi to everyone in this group. I’m starting a new business and decided to use Simply Accounting as my financial software.  I can’t figure out how to add money I have used from my personal account for start-up costs.  The manuals are confusing.  Would anyone from this newsgroup know how I add this amount to my opening/starting balance?  Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Dominic

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Hi to everyone in this group. I’m starting a new business and decided to use Simply Accounting as my financial software.  I can’t figure out how to add money I have used from my personal account for start-up costs.  The manuals are confusing.  Would anyone from this newsgroup know how I add this amount to my opening/starting balance?  Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Dominic

I don’t know about Simply Accounting, but most accounting packages have a chart of accounts entry feature for opening $$ balances. Because starting a new business has many tax and accounting implications, you would be advised to talk to a local accountant NOW !.

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Today I bought a 6-pack of Corona light because I have seen several people here mention that it wasn’t bad.  What a mistake!  Tasted like a wet dog.

Corona Light?!? Huh? Like regular Corona is too heavy? What? How can you lighten something that has no shade? My tap water has more flavor than Corona. I can’t believe they made a light version. Help!  Can’t compute! Why do people do such stupid things? You’d think that they’d come out with a Corona dark, or a strong or something. Perhaps then, and only then, will people actually start enjoying the stuff. How can they stay in business like that anyway?

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Now you know why everyone serves a lime with each bottle. -Dan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Today I bought a 6-pack of Corona light because I have seen several people here mention that it wasn’t bad.  What a mistake!  Tasted like a wet dog. Corona Light?!? Huh? Like regular Corona is too heavy? What? How can you lighten something that has no shade? My tap water has more flavor than Corona. I can’t believe they made a light version. Help!  Can’t compute! Why do people do such stupid things? You’d think that they’d come out with a Corona dark, or a strong or something. Perhaps then, and only then, will people actually start enjoying the stuff. How can they stay in business like that anyway?

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Today I bought a 6-pack of Corona light because I have seen several people here mention that it wasn’t bad.  What a mistake!  Tasted like a wet dog.  That was the most horrible fermented (malt?) beverage I have ever tasted.  Nasty.  Poured it out after one swallow. A friend was coming over later, so I asked him if he drinks the stuff and he said yes, so I refrained from pouring the other 5 out.  He started drinking one when he got here and then I broke out one of my mediocre, too sweet, but OK, amber ales and got him to taste it in the middle of the Corona.  He thought it was pretty good.  Then I told him to try some more of that nasty stuff.  You should have seen his face! It was great!  He said that Corona was NASTY. I did the same experiment with a Red Dog that I had picked up somewhere and it was even nastier than the swallow of the Corona I had before. Anyway, Corona is the nastiest, vilest crap I have ever put in my mouth.  Now I have 6 nice clean, very expensive sample bottles for homebrew.  I really can’t believe any civilized person drinks that stuff. PS.  Also tried a Colt .45 32 oz. today for $.88 just to see what that was all about.  It was nearly as bad as the Corona.  It really stunk up my kitchen sink.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : :         Question:  Are there any GOOD Mexican beers?  I’ve tried : Corona (vile, as previously mentioned), Negra Modelo (not quite as : bad, but nowhere near good), and Dos Equis (long time ago… I don’t : remember it as being fabulous, but perhaps drinkable?)… Well, there’s that one flavorful Mexican beer called "oxymoron"  :) On the other hand, altho I prefer heavier beers as a rule, I do like a cold Tecate or two after doing the lawn, cleaning the garage, etc., etc.

 I have had Dos Equis Amber Lager and one time it is very good and the next is has a harse mettallic flavor or a skunky hop smell and flavor. When it is right it is pretty good.                                       Phil Cline.

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I can top that .  My nephew had been helping a friend on a construction project and had been drinking swill.  He came directly to a family birthday party, pulled out a Bud Lite and said "Finally, a real beer".  I’m not making this up!  He’s outa the will, for sure . If he thought Bud Light was real beer, what on earth was the ’swill’ he was drinking?

He didn’t say and I was too stunned to ask – and I don’t wanna know . Tony V.

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: :         Question:  Are there any GOOD Mexican beers?  I’ve tried : Corona (vile, as previously mentioned), Negra Modelo (not quite as : bad, but nowhere near good), and Dos Equis (long time ago… I don’t : remember it as being fabulous, but perhaps drinkable?)… … Dues Equis is a pretty good beer. Negro Modelo aint bad either. Just depends on your taste.

Actually, I think it depends more on where you are in the distribution food chain.  Negra Modelo is a good "Viennese Lager" style beer, but it suffers from the same distribution network that carelessly — it sometimes seems intentionally — skunks up all the Corona.  So, in much of the USA, you wind up with Negra Modelo with a metallic twang or other odd flavors from bad shipping. When it’s fresh, I like it. Best, Sam Mize — Multi-part MIME message: " ", " ", " " (hands waving) Fight Spam – see http://www.cauce.org/

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: :         Question:  Are there any GOOD Mexican beers?  I’ve tried : Corona (vile, as previously mentioned), Negra Modelo (not quite as : bad, but nowhere near good), and Dos Equis (long time ago… I don’t : remember it as being fabulous, but perhaps drinkable?)… Well, there’s that one flavorful Mexican beer called "oxymoron"  :)

On the other hand, altho I prefer heavier beers as a rule, I do like a cold Tecate or two after doing the lawn, cleaning the garage, etc., etc.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : :         Question:  Are there any GOOD Mexican beers?  I’ve tried : Corona (vile, as previously mentioned), Negra Modelo (not quite as : bad, but nowhere near good), and Dos Equis (long time ago… I don’t : remember it as being fabulous, but perhaps drinkable?)… Well, there’s that one flavorful Mexican beer called "oxymoron"  :) IMHO: Dues Equis is a pretty good beer. Negro Modelo aint bad either. Just depends on your taste. Rumor: (no verifacation) Corona was origanaly made (under another name) In Baltimore. faced with extinction, the company moved to mexica and sold the beer origanaly exclusively as an import to the US.

I doubt very much that this is true; I remember Corona from my youth (some thirty years back, probably), and they would have folded completely if they had relied on the US as a sole market. Oxymoron Joke; Kind of pot-kettl;e statment here in the land of BUD…

Not only that, I couldn’t see any connection at all, unless Mike S. was equating "Mexican" with "moronic"; if that’s what he meant, I think you can guess my reaction (I grew up in Mexico, and my IQ is just fine, thanks). — Andy McKellar    Dallas, TX

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Well, if you don’t like Negra Modelo, I don’t know what to recommend;         Perhaps I just had a bad sample?  It had an off flavor that early batches of my homebrew had… I don’t know how to explain it. Kind of a metallic astringency.  I’ll try it again if/when I eat Mexican food (I’m not particularly in to really greasy foods) next.

The Negra Modelo I can get here in Raleigh, NC has that flavor, sort of a sherry flavor. The same beer, when purchased in the Denver area does not. I think it may simply have to do with old beer. If you think Mexican food is greasy you have not experienced good Mexican food. You probably have had Tex-Mex that was called Mexican. If everything was smotherred in a red chili sauce it is a good chance you where served Tex-Mex. Brian p.s. At times I do go out of my way for the greasy variety.

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I wonder if it’s OK to just like beer? I do. I like Corona just fine – when I want something to knock down a thirst after, say, a game of basketball. I also like a good stout at a bull session with friends at a bar, or a nice hoppy red ale in my back yard on a Sunday afternoon. I’ve got some nice nut brown ale brewin’ up in the carboy right now, and my local brewpub makes a lot of nice German-style brews in particular. I like ‘em all. I’d also like to point out that some of this "Corona is skunk piss" talk reinforces the worst stereotypes of this hobby – the belief that it’s just a bunch of (mostly male) ubergeeks who are trying to make enjoying beer as impossible for most folks as enjoying wine, due to all the terminology and snootiness. If you don’t like it, don’t drink it. If your friends like it, don’t get your underwear in a knot. Introduce them to other stuff. Bring ‘em along. Just enjoy the stupid beer!

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I have a friend who somehow finds Corona inexplicably delicious. Yes, I know, poor choice of friends, but there are other redeeming friendship qualities.  But I digress…

I can top that .  My nephew had been helping a friend on a construction project and had been drinking swill.  He came directly to a family birthday party, pulled out a Bud Lite and said "Finally, a real beer".  I’m not making this up!  He’s outa the will, for sure . Tony V.

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An interesting point about people acquiring a taste for light struck brew! When I worked for a major brewer we came out with 32 ounce cans for our brand and thought that they could help grow our business while increasing our profits.  (Cans are much more profitable than bottles). Unfortunately, sales of the brand plummeted when the cans replaced the existing quart bottles.  When we talked to our customers they said things like, "That’s not MY beer in the can, it doesn’t have any bite".  Truth is, it was better quality protected beer but not what they were used to.  There is truly no accounting for taste. Think global- drink local. Jim Ohio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – . . . I have a friend who somehow finds Corona inexplicably delicious. Yes, I know, poor choice of friends, but there are other redeeming friendship qualities.  But I digress… I have quite a few friends who like Corona.  Actually, my roommate keeps asking me to try to brew something like it, and I keep trying to explain to him that Corona is crap and I wouldn’t waste my time trying to duplicate it.  The strangest thing I’ve noticed about fans of Corona is that they actually like that it’s skunked.  The same people all seem to like any import that comes in green bottles.  Once a friend of mine had a 12-pack of Corona, that hadn’t been exposed to light, and I was actually able to drink a bottle (still wouldn’t call it good), but he didn’t think it tasted right.  I’ll never understand. Before I started brewing and learning more about beer than: "the more I drink, the drunker I get",  I used to be one of those people.  It all has to do with education and a willingness to learn.  In my experience, it also had something to do with trying to have yuppie tastes. Unfortunately, too many yuppies with ‘refined tastes’ and a enough money to afford ‘imported beer’ marveled about the fabulous ‘imported taste’ of the beers in green and clear bottles.  Those wanting to be like their yuppie friends, and have ‘refined taste’, drank the swill and also marveled at the ‘imported taste’.  None of them (including myself) knew that the skunkiness was a flaw. I will still drink those imports from time to time (when I’m outta HB in the middle of the summer), but only buy them by the case, where they’ve been protected from the light. Shawn Lowell, MA "A bad day of brewing is better than a great day at work."

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I have a friend who somehow finds Corona inexplicably delicious. Yes, I know, poor choice of friends, but there are other redeeming friendship qualities.  But I digress… I can top that .  My nephew had been helping a friend on a construction project and had been drinking swill.  He came directly to a family birthday party, pulled out a Bud Lite and said "Finally, a real beer".  I’m not making this up!  He’s outa the will, for sure . Tony V.

Don’t blame the kid.  He’s probably seen "Toy Story" too many times.  It is full of A/B subliminals.  For example, the main character is named "Bud Lite Beer." Brian

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: :         Question:  Are there any GOOD Mexican beers?  I’ve tried : Corona (vile, as previously mentioned), Negra Modelo (not quite as : bad, but nowhere near good), and Dos Equis (long time ago… I don’t : remember it as being fabulous, but perhaps drinkable?)… Well, there’s that one flavorful Mexican beer called "oxymoron"  :)

IMHO: Dues Equis is a pretty good beer. Negro Modelo aint bad either. Just depends on your taste. Rumor: (no verifacation) Corona was origanaly made (under another name) In Baltimore. faced with extinction, the company moved to mexica and sold the beer origanaly exclusively as an import to the US. Oxymoron Joke; Kind of pot-kettl;e statment here in the land of BUD…

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: :         Question:  Are there any GOOD Mexican beers?  I’ve tried : Corona (vile, as previously mentioned), Negra Modelo (not quite as : bad, but nowhere near good), and Dos Equis (long time ago… I don’t : remember it as being fabulous, but perhaps drinkable?)… Well, there’s that one flavorful Mexican beer called "oxymoron"  :)

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Reminds of the time I was at a bar that serves hundreds of beers from around the world, and this guy orders a couple of Coors Light.  I know, I know, it’s a free country, but, c’mon…… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a friend who somehow finds Corona inexplicably delicious. Yes, I know, poor choice of friends, but there are other redeeming friendship qualities.  But I digress… I can top that .  My nephew had been helping a friend on a construction project and had been drinking swill.  He came directly to a family birthday party, pulled out a Bud Lite and said "Finally, a real beer".  I’m not making this up!  He’s outa the will, for sure . Tony V.

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I have a friend who somehow finds Corona inexplicably delicious. Yes, I know, poor choice of friends, but there are other redeeming friendship qualities.  But I digress… I can top that .  My nephew had been helping a friend on a construction project and had been drinking swill.  He came directly to a family birthday party, pulled out a Bud Lite and said "Finally, a real beer".  I’m not making this up!  He’s outa the will, for sure . Tony V.

If he thought Bud Light was real beer, what on earth was the ’swill’ he was drinking? Tim in Lowell, MA — please move the dot in my return address to read analog dot com

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Today I bought a 6-pack of Corona light because I have seen several people here mention that it wasn’t bad.  What a mistake!  Tasted like a wet dog.

Actually, although I speak only from speculation, Bat Urine is a close description of Corona.  You, my friend, were mislead as you soon found out; you have my sympathy for tasting this ick. Nasty.  Poured it out after one swallow.

Ah, so proud of you.  Hard sometimes to waste beer, no matter how vile of a concoction it may be. A friend was coming over later…..

Likely not your friend now…. He said that Corona was NASTY.

So good to know that another has discriminating tastes.  Sounds like he may soon be on the homebrew path of all that is right with beer as God intended. Anyway, Corona is the nastiest, vilest crap I have ever put in my mouth.

I have a friend who somehow finds Corona inexplicably delicious. Yes, I know, poor choice of friends, but there are other redeeming friendship qualities.  But I digress… I was in the local brew shop picking up supplies and mentioned the abomination called Corona to the owner.  He walked over, pulled a book off the shelf and pointed out a section to me.  (Michael Jackson book)  The history of Corona is that it is made as a cheap beer for migrant mexican workers of the cheapest (by MEXICAN standards) ingrediants and only the gullible yuppie Americans can be duped into drinking this vile stuff (technical term) by the power of Madison Avenue.  Quite comical actually. A toast to real beer…..ahhhhhh…Homebrew!  Relax and drink more… Michael ## Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, ## ##                and I’m not sure about the former.               ## ##                         -Albert Einstein-                       ##

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book)  The history of Corona is that it is made as a cheap beer for migrant mexican workers of the cheapest (by MEXICAN standards) ingrediants and only the gullible yuppie Americans can be duped into drinking this vile stuff (technical term) by the power of Madison

        Question:  Are there any GOOD Mexican beers?  I’ve tried Corona (vile, as previously mentioned), Negra Modelo (not quite as bad, but nowhere near good), and Dos Equis (long time ago… I don’t remember it as being fabulous, but perhaps drinkable?)…         Anyway, what are the premium beers from Mexico, should any exist? NOTICE TO BULK EMAILER(S): Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US.                                                                    

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        Question:  Are there any GOOD Mexican beers?  I’ve tried Corona (vile, as previously mentioned), Negra Modelo (not quite as bad, but nowhere near good), and Dos Equis (long time ago… I don’t remember it as being fabulous, but perhaps drinkable?)…         Anyway, what are the premium beers from Mexico, should any exist?

Jackson writes about Negra Modelo in his "Beer Companion". He mentions that it uses adjuncts, though (doesn’t help me classify it as "premium").  I order it at Mexican restaurants because it goes good with the food (as Jackson suggests). Jackson also mentions in passing Dos Equis, Indio Oscura and Leon Negra (I’ve never tried the last two).  FWIW, he states that the "golden lagers of Mexico do nothing more than wash down its spicy foods".  Not a very promising outlook!  ;-O Mark Riley The Beer Recipator – http://hbd.org/recipator

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        Question:  Are there any GOOD Mexican beers?  I’ve tried Corona (vile, as previously mentioned), Negra Modelo (not quite as bad, but nowhere near good), and Dos Equis (long time ago… I don’t remember it as being fabulous, but perhaps drinkable?)…

Hey… IMO, Negra Modelo isn’t bad.  Nothing to write home about, but quite drinkable.  I’m glad that a lot of the Mexican restaurants have started serving it; now I can actually have a beer or two with dinner when we go out for Mexican food. Are you sure what you tried wasn’t the Modelo Especial?  From what I recall, ME *is* pretty vile stuff, only marginally less offensive than Corona… —

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – book)  The history of Corona is that it is made as a cheap beer for migrant mexican workers of the cheapest (by MEXICAN standards) ingrediants and only the gullible yuppie Americans can be duped into drinking this vile stuff (technical term) by the power of Madison    Question:  Are there any GOOD Mexican beers?  I’ve tried Corona (vile, as previously mentioned), Negra Modelo (not quite as bad, but nowhere near good), and Dos Equis (long time ago… I don’t remember it as being fabulous, but perhaps drinkable?)…    Anyway, what are the premium beers from Mexico, should any exist?

Well, if you don’t like Negra Modelo, I don’t know what to recommend; in my opinion, it and Dos Equis are the best beers made in Mexico, with Negra Modelo slightly ahead.  On the other hand, I have a strong preference for strong flavors, so that influences my choice.  In the lighter lagers, Bohemia is probably the best (again, in my opinion); give it a try before you give up completely. BTW, you didn’t say what you _do_ like…? — Andy McKellar    Dallas, TX

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Well, if you don’t like Negra Modelo, I don’t know what to recommend;

        Perhaps I just had a bad sample?  It had an off flavor that early batches of my homebrew had… I don’t know how to explain it. Kind of a metallic astringency.  I’ll try it again if/when I eat Mexican food (I’m not particularly in to really greasy foods) next. NOTICE TO BULK EMAILER(S): Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, any and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US.                                                                    

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. . . I have a friend who somehow finds Corona inexplicably delicious. Yes, I know, poor choice of friends, but there are other redeeming friendship qualities.  But I digress…

I have quite a few friends who like Corona.  Actually, my roommate keeps asking me to try to brew something like it, and I keep trying to explain to him that Corona is crap and I wouldn’t waste my time trying to duplicate it.  The strangest thing I’ve noticed about fans of Corona is that they actually like that it’s skunked.  The same people all seem to like any import that comes in green bottles.  Once a friend of mine had a 12-pack of Corona, that hadn’t been exposed to light, and I was actually able to drink a bottle (still wouldn’t call it good), but he didn’t think it tasted right.  I’ll never understand. Mark —- The email address above is wrong. To reply via email, please change "NoSpam" to "ItsMark" (No quotes)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – . . . I have a friend who somehow finds Corona inexplicably delicious. Yes, I know, poor choice of friends, but there are other redeeming friendship qualities.  But I digress… I have quite a few friends who like Corona.  Actually, my roommate keeps asking me to try to brew something like it, and I keep trying to explain to him that Corona is crap and I wouldn’t waste my time trying to duplicate it.  The strangest thing I’ve noticed about fans of Corona is that they actually like that it’s skunked.  The same people all seem to like any import that comes in green bottles.  Once a friend of mine had a 12-pack of Corona, that hadn’t been exposed to light, and I was actually able to drink a bottle (still wouldn’t call it good), but he didn’t think it tasted right.  I’ll never understand.

Before I started brewing and learning more about beer than: "the more I drink, the drunker I get",  I used to be one of those people.  It all has to do with education and a willingness to learn.  In my experience, it also had something to do with trying to have yuppie tastes. Unfortunately, too many yuppies with ‘refined tastes’ and a enough money to afford ‘imported beer’ marveled about the fabulous ‘imported taste’ of the beers in green and clear bottles.  Those wanting to be like their yuppie friends, and have ‘refined taste’, drank the swill and also marveled at the ‘imported taste’.  None of them (including myself) knew that the skunkiness was a flaw. I will still drink those imports from time to time (when I’m outta HB in the middle of the summer), but only buy them by the case, where they’ve been protected from the light. Shawn Lowell, MA "A bad day of brewing is better than a great day at work."

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