Question:

Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

Response:

wow great i also have faith in you !!! satya thinking of you and who wish you the best of the best —   (Y)   (..) c((")(") – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

Response:

Splendido, Beauty.   Congrats, and sympathy with the fears.  Is only natural to fear. Much luck when time comes, and much pleasure in new doings. Baba Yaga – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

Response:

Congratulations, Beauty.  It doesn’t surprise me at all that you got the job.  It sounds like a perfect fit for you, and I just know that you’ll be great at it.  You must feel like a million "bucks"…….except for being scared silly too.  I know that that will disappear once you start working and see just how competent you really are.  Very happy for you!! Nahanton – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

Response:

yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! wow! exellent! impressed! plesed for you! evrythin and more!!! *big grin* one queston left tho, do ya still get to finish your corse? Congrats! i beleve in you! C.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

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Sadly, will have to scrub course. The one loss. Sad about that, but I had to make a choice. Thanks for your good words, and thanks for thinking things through to ask that question. Beauts. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! wow! exellent! impressed! plesed for you! evrythin and more!!! *big grin* one queston left tho, do ya still get to finish your corse? Congrats! i beleve in you! C. Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

Response:

Thank you. I will need faith from my friends to get me through this one, I think. Beauty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – wow great i also have faith in you !!! satya thinking of you and who wish you the best of the best —   (Y)   (..) c((")(") Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

Response:

Thank you for such encouraging words. I hope I do feel competent. Yes, I do feel scared silly – but I am trying now to focus on feeling strong, while allowing that feeling scared is "normal." Beauty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Congratulations, Beauty.  It doesn’t surprise me at all that you got the job.  It sounds like a perfect fit for you, and I just know that you’ll be great at it.  You must feel like a million "bucks"…….except for being scared silly too.  I know that that will disappear once you start working and see just how competent you really are.  Very happy for you!! Nahanton Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

Response:

‘grats! — astri – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

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Thank you. I can only hope now – only hope as I step forward, and remember as Laurie Anderson says, walking is a process of falling and catching oneself repeatedly. Beauty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Splendido, Beauty.   Congrats, and sympathy with the fears.  Is only natural to fear. Much luck when time comes, and much pleasure in new doings. Baba Yaga Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

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YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES this feels VERY right to me.  :) my experience has shown me that people expect far less of me than i think they will…and that’s *with* knowing that i expect more of myself than others will anyway. also, in a position of the type you describe, a person with a modicum of maturity and wisdom, who is able (thru martial arts training, mayhap?) to channel their focus (this translates to "confidence"), who can write coherent sentences and count to 20 without taking off their shoes and socks…IS A G*DSEND!!! no one expects you to be perfect.  even if they *seem* to expect you to be perfect, they’re secretly aware that they’ll be disappointed…and so their expectations are illogical if they had any insight whatsoever. the big thing that i learned recently is that if someone has a problem with me, they’re supposed to *tell* me about it so i can try to fix it.  i’m not sposta guess.  and i’m not sposta be scared if they *don’t* say anything to me. while i was writing notes today, out of the corner of my eye i saw what i thought was my counterpart and friend, Kent, come over to the desk next to me and begin to rummage thru some papers.  Since he was writing notes as well, and knew that I was, too, I started to say "Ya know?  This is a *lot* easier when ya don’t bother putting in any detail…" as a joke. i got as far as "when ya don’t", when the process of me turning my head towards "him" made me aware that it was my supervisor, not Kent.  we joked a bit, n i did actually *tell* her what i’d been going to say (since in reality i’m still putting in detail anyway), and she started razzing me good-naturedly. i got triggered.  i went so far as to scroll up and read aloud the notes i’d been writing so she could see that i’d merely been joking.  she kept joking, and i realized when she said "Methinks the lady doth protest too much" that i’d gotten triggered. So i just stopped, took a breath, n said – rather conversationally – "i got called a l*ar a *lot* when i was a kid."  she said "Aww!  Why??"  I shrugged, n said "bad, *bad* childhood."  she said something like "that sounds very painful…".  Jen was in full retreat at this point, so the memories are far more involved with the internals than the external conversation, but i know i explained that this triggers me, n she said she’d thought she and i had been joking…made some comment bout me getting defensive (not in a negative way.  she was saying she could see now why i’d be getting defensive).  we assured her we were ok, but that it was just something we need to be aware of for ourself so we can tell when we get triggered, n she kinda …heck, i don’t even *know* what she said as she was leaving!  but she said something appropriate, i’m sure, and left… …n we went n hid out in the bathroom n cried some…..just, kinda, cuz it’s so DIFFERENT now than it was growing up…..and it was SO BAD growing up!  and when i juxtapose how safe it is now with how *scared* i got when i got triggered…how can i *not* cry for that little girl i was? cuz that’s the thing: it’s safe now.  nobody was *allowed* to treat us as badly as we were growing up.  this goes for you n me n everyone else who posts here or reads here or whatever.  they broke the rules.  if people break the rules now, we can call ‘em on it. but lots n lots of people play by the rules, n treat people *appropriately*.  (more or less.  ;) ) so, i guess, my advice might be: make sure ya know what the fear’s about.  is it *really* about now?  or entirely about then? and know that no one expects you to be perfect.  in fact, the level of expectation from employers re: employees is astonishingly low.  :) i wish you all the best, my beauty-sis.  *fondest hugs and fountains of good thoughts* (assuming hugs are k. ) jt

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good

contacts, you know. To – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3)

evaluating and doing – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job.

this is so incredibly wonderful!  it sounds like a perfect job for you. just think of all the people you will be helping, while doing something you love, and it’s even something that won’t be too terribly physically demanding! i knew you were due for wonderful things.  i’m so glad to hear they’re coming to you. i’ll miss your posts though, so please try to stop in when you can.  :-) -kelly

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Wow!  That’s awesome news, Beauty. I am so very happy for you. You’ve deserved something like this for a very long time. I know you’ll be busy but please let us know how it comes along? nicky — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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well, you have mine satya who should also consider such support but still isolate herself totally while dealing with the most difficult stuffs… —   (Y)   (..) c((")(") – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank you. I will need faith from my friends to get me through this one, I think. Beauty. wow great i also have faith in you !!! satya thinking of you and who wish you the best of the best —   (Y)   (..) c((")(") Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

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thanks. Beauty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ‘grats! — astri Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

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We can’t figure out where our perfectionism came from – except unless it was that "our little girl is soooooooo smart," etc. so that if I wasn’t, I thought I didn’t be good enough. I can’t figure it out, so I can’t solve it. Yet. Any thoughts are welcome, though. Beauty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES this feels VERY right to me.  :) my experience has shown me that people expect far less of me than i think they will…and that’s *with* knowing that i expect more of myself than others will anyway. also, in a position of the type you describe, a person with a modicum of maturity and wisdom, who is able (thru martial arts training, mayhap?) to channel their focus (this translates to "confidence"), who can write coherent sentences and count to 20 without taking off their shoes and socks…IS A G*DSEND!!! no one expects you to be perfect.  even if they *seem* to expect you to be perfect, they’re secretly aware that they’ll be disappointed…and so their expectations are illogical if they had any insight whatsoever. the big thing that i learned recently is that if someone has a problem with me, they’re supposed to *tell* me about it so i can try to fix it.  i’m not sposta guess.  and i’m not sposta be scared if they *don’t* say anything to me. while i was writing notes today, out of the corner of my eye i saw what i thought was my counterpart and friend, Kent, come over to the desk next to me and begin to rummage thru some papers.  Since he was writing notes as well, and knew that I was, too, I started to say "Ya know?  This is a *lot* easier when ya don’t bother putting in any detail…" as a joke. i got as far as "when ya don’t", when the process of me turning my head towards "him" made me aware that it was my supervisor, not Kent.  we joked a bit, n i did actually *tell* her what i’d been going to say (since in reality i’m still putting in detail anyway), and she started razzing me good-naturedly. i got triggered.  i went so far as to scroll up and read aloud the notes i’d been writing so she could see that i’d merely been joking.  she kept joking, and i realized when she said "Methinks the lady doth protest too much" that i’d gotten triggered. So i just stopped, took a breath, n said – rather conversationally – "i got called a l*ar a *lot* when i was a kid."  she said "Aww!  Why??"  I shrugged, n said "bad, *bad* childhood."  she said something like "that sounds very painful…".  Jen was in full retreat at this point, so the memories are far more involved with the internals than the external conversation, but i know i explained that this triggers me, n she said she’d thought she and i had been joking…made some comment bout me getting defensive (not in a negative way.  she was saying she could see now why i’d be getting defensive).  we assured her we were ok, but that it was just something we need to be aware of for ourself so we can tell when we get triggered, n she kinda …heck, i don’t even *know* what she said as she was leaving!  but she said something appropriate, i’m sure, and left… …n we went n hid out in the bathroom n cried some…..just, kinda, cuz it’s so DIFFERENT now than it was growing up…..and it was SO BAD growing up!  and when i juxtapose how safe it is now with how *scared* i got when i got triggered…how can i *not* cry for that little girl i was? cuz that’s the thing: it’s safe now.  nobody was *allowed* to treat us as badly as we were growing up.  this goes for you n me n everyone else who posts here or reads here or whatever.  they broke the rules.  if people break the rules now, we can call ‘em on it. but lots n lots of people play by the rules, n treat people *appropriately*.  (more or less.  ;) ) so, i guess, my advice might be: make sure ya know what the fear’s about.  is it *really* about now?  or entirely about then? and know that no one expects you to be perfect.  in fact, the level of expectation from employers re: employees is astonishingly low.  :) i wish you all the best, my beauty-sis.  *fondest hugs and fountains of good thoughts* (assuming hugs are k. ) jt Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

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Beautysisterofourheart, we are proud proud proud of you. YOu don’t gotta know it all right away, we figure. there has to be room for learning, right? Take deep deep breaths and remember that you now know how to do phlebotomy, and other things you dinnnt usta know, right? You learn well! And you will learn this job, too. We are same, though, about needing to be perfect. We don’t know zactly why that is, except maybe it is from always trying to figure out how to keep safe, how to figure out what would cause trouble with the m*therone, what would let outsiders see us, you know? Maybe it is from that stuff?  jane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We can’t figure out where our perfectionism came from – except unless it was that "our little girl is soooooooo smart," etc. so that if I wasn’t, I thought I didn’t be good enough. I can’t figure it out, so I can’t solve it. Yet. Any thoughts are welcome, though. Beauty. YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES this feels VERY right to me.  :) my experience has shown me that people expect far less of me than i think they will…and that’s *with* knowing that i expect more of myself than others will anyway. also, in a position of the type you describe, a person with a modicum of maturity and wisdom, who is able (thru martial arts training, mayhap?) to channel their focus (this translates to "confidence"), who can write coherent sentences and count to 20 without taking off their shoes and socks…IS A G*DSEND!!! no one expects you to be perfect.  even if they *seem* to expect you to be perfect, they’re secretly aware that they’ll be disappointed…and so their expectations are illogical if they had any insight whatsoever. the big thing that i learned recently is that if someone has a problem with me, they’re supposed to *tell* me about it so i can try to fix it.  i’m not sposta guess.  and i’m not sposta be scared if they *don’t* say anything to me. while i was writing notes today, out of the corner of my eye i saw what i thought was my counterpart and friend, Kent, come over to the desk next to me and begin to rummage thru some papers.  Since he was writing notes as well, and knew that I was, too, I started to say "Ya know?  This is a *lot* easier when ya don’t bother putting in any detail…" as a joke. i got as far as "when ya don’t", when the process of me turning my head towards "him" made me aware that it was my supervisor, not Kent.  we joked a bit, n i did actually *tell* her what i’d been going to say (since in reality i’m still putting in detail anyway), and she started razzing me good-naturedly. i got triggered.  i went so far as to scroll up and read aloud the notes i’d been writing so she could see that i’d merely been joking.  she kept joking, and i realized when she said "Methinks the lady doth protest too much" that i’d gotten triggered. So i just stopped, took a breath, n said – rather conversationally – "i got called a l*ar a *lot* when i was a kid."  she said "Aww!  Why??"  I shrugged, n said "bad, *bad* childhood."  she said something like "that sounds very painful…".  Jen was in full retreat at this point, so the memories are far more involved with the internals than the external conversation, but i know i explained that this triggers me, n she said she’d thought she and i had been joking…made some comment bout me getting defensive (not in a negative way.  she was saying she could see now why i’d be getting defensive).  we assured her we were ok, but that it was just something we need to be aware of for ourself so we can tell when we get triggered, n she kinda …heck, i don’t even *know* what she said as she was leaving!  but she said something appropriate, i’m sure, and left… …n we went n hid out in the bathroom n cried some…..just, kinda, cuz it’s so DIFFERENT now than it was growing up…..and it was SO BAD growing up!  and when i juxtapose how safe it is now with how *scared* i got when i got triggered…how can i *not* cry for that little girl i was? cuz that’s the thing: it’s safe now.  nobody was *allowed* to treat us as badly as we were growing up.  this goes for you n me n everyone else who posts here or reads here or whatever.  they broke the rules.  if people break the rules now, we can call ‘em on it. but lots n lots of people play by the rules, n treat people *appropriately*.  (more or less.  ;) ) so, i guess, my advice might be: make sure ya know what the fear’s about.  is it *really* about now?  or entirely about then? and know that no one expects you to be perfect.  in fact, the level of expectation from employers re: employees is astonishingly low.  :) i wish you all the best, my beauty-sis.  *fondest hugs and fountains of good thoughts* (assuming hugs are k. ) jt Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

WOW!!!!!! Congratulations, and thanks for sharing this with us here.:)

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Thank you. I can only hope now – only hope as I step forward, and remember as Laurie Anderson says, walking is a process of falling and catching oneself repeatedly. Beauty.

Like the quotation.  Life’s a bit like that. My bet, once you *get* walking, you be o.k.  Waiting around on a start line, though – that’s always jittery. Baba Yaga

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Yeah!  awesome Beauty.  I think you can do it and do a good job too. I hope you can find the confidence within yourself.  maybe just taking it one step at a time and before you know it, you will have gotten familiar with all the tasks just by doing them without worrying ahead of time.   linda 2creus – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

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Oh, yes, thank you, nicky, we will. It’s so scary. Mostly, we are scared because we’ve become rather hooked on sleep. More than rather. It has become our mode of coping w/our unhappiness, our dysfunctionality, our physical problems, etc., etc. – well – time to focus on developing a sense of strength now, and not on my fears. Also on the good effect it will have on my son to see a mother who is growing stronger. (Please, G*d, let that be what he sees . . .). Beauty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow!  That’s awesome news, Beauty. I am so very happy for you. You’ve deserved something like this for a very long time. I know you’ll be busy but please let us know how it comes along? nicky — For more information about this posting service, contact: If you want an anonymous account, visit our sign-up page: https://asarian-host.net/cgi-bin/signup.cgi

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Thank you my friend kelly, who has sometimes come in out of nowhere with that sorely needed encouraging word. Never forget how much you have done for me!! I will not be disappearing. I think I will still need this place and miss my friends too much. Beauty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. this is so incredibly wonderful!  it sounds like a perfect job for you. just think of all the people you will be helping, while doing something you love, and it’s even something that won’t be too terribly physically demanding! i knew you were due for wonderful things.  i’m so glad to hear they’re coming to you. i’ll miss your posts though, so please try to stop in when you can.  :-) -kelly

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Thank you, bunny-sending satya. How about if I sneak my support somewhere close to where you might accidentally run across it when you might need it? Kind of like, oh, a big glittery stone that you might notice one day lying in your path, just when you think the sun might not break through the clouds that day at all. Beauty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – well, you have mine satya who should also consider such support but still isolate herself totally while dealing with the most difficult stuffs… —   (Y)   (..) c((")(") Thank you. I will need faith from my friends to get me through this one, I think. Beauty. wow great i also have faith in you !!! satya thinking of you and who wish you the best of the best —  (Y)  (..) c((")(") Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

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Thank you for your thoughts on why about perfectionism. We will continue to think and try to keep the malady at bay, because we think it could ensnare us – if someone else is perfectionist and unreasonable, we need to be able to spot it and point it out. Beauty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Beautysisterofourheart, we are proud proud proud of you. YOu don’t gotta know it all right away, we figure. there has to be room for learning, right? Take deep deep breaths and remember that you now know how to do phlebotomy, and other things you dinnnt usta know, right? You learn well! And you will learn this job, too. We are same, though, about needing to be perfect. We don’t know zactly why that is, except maybe it is from always trying to figure out how to keep safe, how to figure out what would cause trouble with the m*therone, what would let outsiders see us, you know? Maybe it is from that stuff?  jane We can’t figure out where our perfectionism came from – except unless it was that "our little girl is soooooooo smart," etc. so that if I wasn’t, I thought I didn’t be good enough. I can’t figure it out, so I can’t solve it. Yet. Any thoughts are welcome, though. Beauty. YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES this feels VERY right to me.  :) my experience has shown me that people expect far less of me than i think they will…and that’s *with* knowing that i expect more of myself than others will anyway. also, in a position of the type you describe, a person with a modicum of maturity and wisdom, who is able (thru martial arts training, mayhap?) to channel their focus (this translates to "confidence"), who can write coherent sentences and count to 20 without taking off their shoes and socks…IS A G*DSEND!!! no one expects you to be perfect.  even if they *seem* to expect you to be perfect, they’re secretly aware that they’ll be disappointed…and so their expectations are illogical if they had any insight whatsoever. the big thing that i learned recently is that if someone has a problem with me, they’re supposed to *tell* me about it so i can try to fix it.  i’m not sposta guess.  and i’m not sposta be scared if they *don’t* say anything to me. while i was writing notes today, out of the corner of my eye i saw what i thought was my counterpart and friend, Kent, come over to the desk next to me and begin to rummage thru some papers.  Since he was writing notes as well, and knew that I was, too, I started to say "Ya know?  This is a *lot* easier when ya don’t bother putting in any detail…" as a joke. i got as far as "when ya don’t", when the process of me turning my head towards "him" made me aware that it was my supervisor, not Kent.  we joked a bit, n i did actually *tell* her what i’d been going to say (since in reality i’m still putting in detail anyway), and she started razzing me good-naturedly. i got triggered.  i went so far as to scroll up and read aloud the notes i’d been writing so she could see that i’d merely been joking.  she kept joking, and i realized when she said "Methinks the lady doth protest too much" that i’d gotten triggered. So i just stopped, took a breath, n said – rather conversationally – "i got called a l*ar a *lot* when i was a kid."  she said "Aww!  Why??"  I shrugged, n said "bad, *bad* childhood."  she said something like "that sounds very painful…".  Jen was in full retreat at this point, so the memories are far more involved with the internals than the external conversation, but i know i explained that this triggers me, n she said she’d thought she and i had been joking…made some comment bout me getting defensive (not in a negative way.  she was saying she could see now why i’d be getting defensive).  we assured her we were ok, but that it was just something we need to be aware of for ourself so we can tell when we get triggered, n she kinda …heck, i don’t even *know* what she said as she was leaving!  but she said something appropriate, i’m sure, and left… …n we went n hid out in the bathroom n cried some…..just, kinda, cuz it’s so DIFFERENT now than it was growing up…..and it was SO BAD growing up!  and when i juxtapose how safe it is now with how *scared* i got when i got triggered…how can i *not* cry for that little girl i was? cuz that’s the thing: it’s safe now.  nobody was *allowed* to treat us as badly as we were growing up.  this goes for you n me n everyone else who posts here or reads here or whatever.  they broke the rules.  if people break the rules now, we can call ‘em on it. but lots n lots of people play by the rules, n treat people *appropriately*.  (more or less.  ;) ) so, i guess, my advice might be: make sure ya know what the fear’s about.  is it *really* about now?  or entirely about then? and know that no one expects you to be perfect.  in fact, the level of expectation from employers re: employees is astonishingly low.  :) i wish you all the best, my beauty-sis.  *fondest hugs and fountains of good thoughts* (assuming hugs are k. ) jt Friends – Okay, here it is. Here is what I have been needing – and fearing – for the past year. I have a job. A real job. It isn’t even a make-shift job. It is a real job. And it fell out of the sky into my lap. Here’s the story. I was at my MD’s about a month ago, and she went through the whole thing, etc., we did the whole appt. and I explained that I would be doing my phlebotomy clinicals at the same h*sp. where she has her practicing privileges and where her husb. is head of planning and development. I thought this was a good thing in case they wanted to hire phlebotomists in the future – good contacts, you know. To my amazement, at the end of the appt., she kind of quietly said, "I don’t know if this is a conflict of interest or not, but I know you can write, and I know you are intelligent. My husb. is looking for an assistant. Give him a call." Yikes!!!!! And she handed me a slip of paper w/his name and number, and that was that. I did call him. He asked for a resume. I took the resume, and the next time I was at the h*sp, stopped by to "see if he had rec’d it." I had no more than gotten my name out of my mouth than he said, w/great enthusiasm, that he was so glad I’d stopped by because I had "a very impressive resume" and he wanted to interview me, and to call Human Resources immediately. I did, he interviewed me for an hour, asked for writing samples and resumes – and – immediately after receiving the writing and resume names, he called and offered me the job. I am witlessly terrified. The job consists of these three things: 1) planning and writing and overseeing/facilitating grants – some new and some ongoing – both inside the h*sp. and using the h*sp. as an outreach base (we are the only h*sp. in a very poor rural region w/diverse needs and a very sparse base of health care); 2) leading meetings of constituents of these outreach programs, and attending statewide meetings as a representative of our h*sp.; and 3) evaluating and doing the accounting for the grants under my auspices. Eeeeeeeeeeks. Can I do this? Can I really do this? I have done similar things, on a smaller scale and in a different field – arts/humanities/education/culture. But does this translate and magnify? I am scared. But does his judgement say that I can do it – does that mean that I ought to have more faith in myself, to believe that I can? And, I have heard he is "difficult to work with." Well, then, I will simply have to learn to stand firm, and also not to let his "moods," if that is what is the problem, affect me so much as I might have been affected in the past. I have to be a warrior. Maybe that is part of what my martial arts training has been about. I have been very quiet about this possibility as it develops, because I have not wanted to – well – even think about it, even though I have thought about it sooooo much as time has gone on. But thank you all for all that you have been for me as I have gone through this time, and I know you have known that there has been something going on w/me. Thank you for sticking w/me. Thank you for understanding that I might not have as much time for a while for being here – I start on Nov. 1. I hope still to be a part of asd, but I might not have as much time as I have had. Take care, all, and thank you again for all your help and support. Beauty.

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Yeah. I didn’t exactly quote her – it was a paraphrase, because my memory is faulty. But glad you liked the notion. Yeah, I hope it gets better once I’m out of the waiting room, so to speak, and into the h*sp. (Hee. That’s where my job is, get it? In a h*sp.) Beauts. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank you. I can only hope now – only hope as I step forward, and remember as Laurie Anderson says, walking is a process of falling and catching oneself repeatedly. Beauty. Like the quotation.  Life’s a bit like that. My bet, once you *get* walking, you be o.k.  Waiting around on a start line, though – that’s always jittery. Baba Yaga

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I am buying a single family home as an investment property and will be renting it out.  I also own my own home in where I am now living and will remain.  I am thinking about forming a one-person LLC and taking title to the property in the name of the LLC.  My thinking in using an LLC would be to place a limit my personal liability while keeping essentially the same tax advantages that personal ownership would afford me. I’d be interested in hearing any general thoughts or ideas about this that anyone could offer about this approach.  Seems like there are both accounting and legal issues involved.  However, I think that I understand most of the legal issues.  I am just not sure if any of this makes sense or is worthwhile from an accounting point of view. A final thought has to do with how to go about finding a local accountant to ask about these types of questions.  I expect to buy additional properties in the future and will want and need accounting advice and to do my tax returns, etc.  I do my own tax returns now because they are simple, but will want an accountant to do my taxes starting this year since I am buying an investment property.  I read in a book somewhere that it might be a plus if I could find an accountant who has similar real estate investments of his/her own, or at least has special expertise and experience in this area. But maybe that was just mumbo jumbo book talk.  Also, I don’t have any idea how I’d go about finding an accountant with special expertise and experience in real estate investing accounting and tax issues. I am in New Jersey (near Philadelphia, PA) in case that matters. Thanks for any thoughts or ideas on this topic.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am buying a single family home as an investment property and will be renting it out.  I also own my own home in where I am now living and will remain.  I am thinking about forming a one-person LLC and taking title to the property in the name of the LLC.  My thinking in using an LLC would be to place a limit my personal liability while keeping essentially the same tax advantages that personal ownership would afford me. I’d be interested in hearing any general thoughts or ideas about this that anyone could offer about this approach.  Seems like there are both accounting and legal issues involved.  However, I think that I understand most of the legal issues.  I am just not sure if any of this makes sense or is worthwhile from an accounting point of view. A final thought has to do with how to go about finding a local accountant to ask about these types of questions.  I expect to buy additional properties in the future and will want and need accounting advice and to do my tax returns, etc.  I do my own tax returns now because they are simple, but will want an accountant to do my taxes starting this year since I am buying an investment property.  I read in a book somewhere that it might be a plus if I could find an accountant who has similar real estate investments of his/her own, or at least has special expertise and experience in this area. But maybe that was just mumbo jumbo book talk.  Also, I don’t have any idea how I’d go about finding an accountant with special expertise and experience in real estate investing accounting and tax issues. I am in New Jersey (near Philadelphia, PA) in case that matters. Thanks for any thoughts or ideas on this topic.

I don’t think there are any special tax advantages in using the llc as a holding company for real estate but it’s usually done for legal reasons, especially if you have other people doing maintenance, collections etc.  You should ask friends/co-workers in the local RE rental industry for referrals for accountants & other professional services but you could also familiarize yourself with tax real estate issues by reviewing last years "J. K. Lasser" or "Ernst & Young" tax guides at bookstores and libraries.  Actually many people start out with just one property doing the work themselves (taxes and maintenance) to see what it takes and how much work it is.  If you are not in the RE business you should definitely research this "investment" !

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I am buying a single family home as an investment property and will be renting it out.  I also own my own home in where I am now living and will remain.  I am thinking about forming a one-person LLC and taking title to the property in the name of the LLC.  My thinking in using an LLC would be to place a limit my personal liability while keeping essentially the same tax advantages that personal ownership would afford me.

For Federal, there’s not any tax advantage by forming a sole-LLC for rental property.  Legal issues would probably vary by state according to their laws, but in general, I doubt the lender would let you off the hook, and you’d for sure be on the hook for property that you maintained personally and/or were otherwise responsible for maintaining.  An LLC might help for liability issues on property where you were just a passive investor (where you had a management company doing everything), but again, state laws prevail and vary widely. The costs of maintaining the LLC  may out weigh the small liability benefits issue (seeing as you will have some kind of insurance in any event).  Check to see what the total costs will be for your state/location and then you can decide. LLC’s are great for multiple owners, and can be useful for multiple business activities (the rental LLC, the retail LLC, the professional services LLC, etc). — Paul A. Thomas, CPA taxman at negia.net

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The single-member LLC is a disregarded entity for federal tax purposes and therefore has the advantage of not being required to file a seperate tax return – the results of operations are reported on your schedule C, just like a sole proprietorship.  There is no balance sheet required for federal tax reporting. The only disadvantage I can think of would be that the LLC would not be able to take advantage of the capital gain exclusion that applies to sale of personal residences.  In other words, if you titled the rental house in your name, and for some reason the house appreciated greatly in value, you could convert the house from rental to your personal residence (seperate tax issue here – recapture) and live in it for 24 months and then sell it at a tax-free gain.  The LLC, by definition, cannot have a personal residence, and cannot benefit from this exclusion.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am buying a single family home as an investment property and will be renting it out.  I also own my own home in where I am now living and will remain.  I am thinking about forming a one-person LLC and taking title to the property in the name of the LLC.  My thinking in using an LLC would be to place a limit my personal liability while keeping essentially the same tax advantages that personal ownership would afford me. I’d be interested in hearing any general thoughts or ideas about this that anyone could offer about this approach.  Seems like there are both accounting and legal issues involved.  However, I think that I understand most of the legal issues.  I am just not sure if any of this makes sense or is worthwhile from an accounting point of view. A final thought has to do with how to go about finding a local accountant to ask about these types of questions.  I expect to buy additional properties in the future and will want and need accounting advice and to do my tax returns, etc.  I do my own tax returns now because they are simple, but will want an accountant to do my taxes starting this year since I am buying an investment property.  I read in a book somewhere that it might be a plus if I could find an accountant who has similar real estate investments of his/her own, or at least has special expertise and experience in this area. But maybe that was just mumbo jumbo book talk.  Also, I don’t have any idea how I’d go about finding an accountant with special expertise and experience in real estate investing accounting and tax issues. I am in New Jersey (near Philadelphia, PA) in case that matters. Thanks for any thoughts or ideas on this topic.

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You need to consult your attorney as well…depending on the state, rules/benefits/disadvantages will be different.  It may not provide nearly the isolation you may think if it’s a single-person-backed LLC…

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Thanks for all of the feedback and thoughts so far. From an accounting point of view, it appears that if I use an LLC the tax issues will be essentially the same as they would if I owned the property as a sole proprietor (with the exception of the personal residence capital gains exemption assuming that I later moved into the property).

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am buying a single family home as an investment property and will be renting it out.  I also own my own home in where I am now living and will remain.  I am thinking about forming a one-person LLC and taking title to the property in the name of the LLC.  My thinking in using an LLC would be to place a limit my personal liability while keeping essentially the same tax advantages that personal ownership would afford me. I’d be interested in hearing any general thoughts or ideas about this that anyone could offer about this approach.  Seems like there are both accounting and legal issues involved.  However, I think that I understand most of the legal issues.  I am just not sure if any of this makes sense or is worthwhile from an accounting point of view. A final thought has to do with how to go about finding a local accountant to ask about these types of questions.  I expect to buy additional properties in the future and will want and need accounting advice and to do my tax returns, etc.  I do my own tax returns now because they are simple, but will want an accountant to do my taxes starting this year since I am buying an investment property.  I read in a book somewhere that it might be a plus if I could find an accountant who has similar real estate investments of his/her own, or at least has special expertise and experience in this area. But maybe that was just mumbo jumbo book talk.  Also, I don’t have any idea how I’d go about finding an accountant with special expertise and experience in real estate investing accounting and tax issues. I am in New Jersey (near Philadelphia, PA) in case that matters. Thanks for any thoughts or ideas on this topic.

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Another thing to consider… In the event of any litigation (commonly Landlord/Tenant) you "must" have an attorney represent the LLC.  If you own the rental as a sole proprietor, you "could" represent yourself.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You need to consult your attorney as well…depending on the state, rules/benefits/disadvantages will be different.  It may not provide nearly the isolation you may think if it’s a single-person-backed LLC…

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Good point.  Thanks again. After considering everything, I’ve decided that for this property I’m just going to start out by: — taking title in my own name (instead of a LLC) — getting tons of insurance — getting a high-limit umbrella liability coverage policy — making sure all repairs and safety issues are handled properly — looking for an accountant to help me with taxes, etc. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Another thing to consider… In the event of any litigation (commonly Landlord/Tenant) you "must" have an attorney represent the LLC.  If you own the rental as a sole proprietor, you "could" represent yourself. You need to consult your attorney as well…depending on the state, rules/benefits/disadvantages will be different.  It may not provide nearly the isolation you may think if it’s a single-person-backed LLC…

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Another thing to consider… In the event of any litigation (commonly Landlord/Tenant) you "must" have an attorney represent the LLC.  If you own the rental as a sole proprietor, you "could" represent yourself.

Which, would almost certainly be a <very poor idea…

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| The Parks Board has refused to meet with the group in an open | question-and-answer session.  Instead, as Arjun passed along, they are | planning on holding a meeting tomorrow (June 19) and making a decision | at this time. Forwarded from a private mailing list: ===== From Greg Brush, Vice President of IndyFeral:

Thursday June 19, 2003 Hi all! Forgive me if I’m not very eloquent and don’t have the energy to give you a full accounting of today’s meeting of the Richmond Parks Board meeting right now. It was a very disheartening day. Here’s the gist: It was business as usual for the Richmond Parks Board. As if it were already scripted, the parks board unanimously, and without hesitation, approved two measures today. The first being a new Parks Department policy on nuisance animals; the second being their short-term solution for dealing with the current free-roaming cat "problem". Although their proposal included language suggesting that the parks board would remove and relocate the cats according to humane protocols and try to work in partnership with interested local groups like HELP the Animals, this suggestion brought groans from the small, packed assembly room. Considering that the parks department has defiantly ignored all appeals from HELP the Animals and the 350 concerned citizens who signed petitions in the past week, there is little belief that the Parks Department will do anything but dictate terms for participation in the process and those who will not abide by them will be dismissed and ignored. The last, and most important element of the Parks Department short-term plan indicated that cats which could not be relocated will be taken to the county shelter. Who determines if cats can be relocated? As you might guess, it’s apparently based on the Parks Department’s ability to find relocation sites. There were threats of prosecution by the City Attorney for anyone who interferes in the Parks Department plan. The City Attorney made an appearance to briefly clarify a minor point in the Parks Department plan, but seemed to be there primarily for reinforcement. Most in attendance today feared, but expected this decision. Since the parks department was discovered preparing fliers some weeks ago, warning adjacent home owners of their plans, their stance has been consistent — they want the cats out. Regardless, HELP the Animals supporters were devastated. The small group outside the administration office were sad and angry. They felt that those who were in place to represent their interests had ignored and betrayed that trust. No amount of factual support presented by HELP the Animals would sway the Parks Board. The comprehensive counter-proposal put forth by HELP the Animals at the beginning of the meeting didn’t even warrant additional study time by the board. The mayor’s response to the amazing outpouring of phone calls and e-mails was irritation. She feels that it’s not her problem. According to her, it’s the Parks Board’s decision. When her office was deluged with calls and e-mails on Wednesday, the phones were apparently taken off the hook. The story hasn’t ended yet. The people in Richmond who care for and about the cats are still working hard to see that somehow the cats are relocated properly. Public support for the cats may still have an impact on the situation. As those of you practicing TNR know, trapping cats isn’t as easy as it sounds. When I get a chance to regroup and recover, I will be giving you all more information to use to bring pressure to bear on Richmond officials. If anyone knows of suitable relocation sites within central Indiana or 317-258-7469 (cell) The concerned people of Richmond, and I, thank all of you who have expressed your concern and disgust at this amazing display of ignorance and indifference. We hope that continued pressure will give the City of Richmond, Indiana reasons to reconsider this plan. Sincerely, Greg Greg Brush Vice President, IndyFeral Inc. http://www.indyferal.org A resource for caretakers & friends of stray & feral cats in central Indiana IndyFeral Inc. P.O. Box 30054 Indianapolis, IN 46230 (317) 596-2300 =====

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| The Parks Board has refused to meet with the group in an open | question-and-answer session.  Instead, as Arjun passed along, they are | planning on holding a meeting tomorrow (June 19) and making a decision | at this time. | | If you have not yet contacted them — or even if you have — this is | the time to contact the city, today. | | City of Richmond’s phone number is (765) 983-7200 Other phone numbers:  Mayor Shelly Miller: 765-983-7208  Mr. Stan Lambert, Director of Parks & Recreation: 765-983-7275

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| If you have not yet contacted them — or even if you have — this is | the time to contact the city, today. | | City of Richmond’s phone number is (765) 983-7200 | | Thank you. Forwarded from a private mailing list: ===== Thank you everyone for all your great work! The Richmond phone lines and email have been flooded with your letters and calls, so much in fact, that here are their fax numbers if you can’t get through or have another thought to add: to fax Mayor Shelley Miller: 765-983-7212 to fax Stan Lambert, Director of Parks &Recreation: 765-983-7279 Now they’re at least telling people they intend to relocate, not kill, the cats, so we’re making progress. They know they’re being watched, too, which is so important. The main argument they’re making for removing the cats is that the cats are hunting wildlife in the park. While this is undoubtedly true to some extent, it’s also true that the TNR program has reduced the number of cats in the park and so has reduced wildlife predation. The Richmond officials are mistaken if they believe they can completely eliminate the impact on wildlife by trying to remove all the cats. History has shown time and time again that when you create a vacuum by removing a feral colony, new unneutered cats take their place from having been newly abandoned, not trapped, or migrated from neighboring feral colonies. These new cats rapidly reproduce as long as any food source remains and the situation ends up worse, not better, for wildlife. The only effective solution is a neutered, managed feral colony with a slowly declining population. What will happen otherwise in Glen Miller Park is an endless cycle of trapping and removing cats, who are then replaced by new cats who overbreed, then trapping, then new cats, etc. The futility and expense of this approach is why so many communities are now turning to TNR. What a shame if one community that could serve as a shining example and a model to others tries to turn back the clock and go back to failed ways! Let’s keep trying to help them get it right. =====

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I emailed the mayor this afternoon. Keep us posted. Gail

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | If you have not yet contacted them — or even if you have — this is | the time to contact the city, today. | | City of Richmond’s phone number is (765) 983-7200 | | Thank you. Forwarded from a private mailing list: ===== Thank you everyone for all your great work! The Richmond phone lines and email have been flooded with your letters and calls, so much in fact, that here are their fax numbers if you can’t get through or have another thought to add: to fax Mayor Shelley Miller: 765-983-7212 to fax Stan Lambert, Director of Parks &Recreation: 765-983-7279 Now they’re at least telling people they intend to relocate, not kill, the cats, so we’re making progress. They know they’re being watched, too, which is so important. The main argument they’re making for removing the cats is that the cats are hunting wildlife in the park. While this is undoubtedly true to some extent, it’s also true that the TNR program has reduced the number of cats in the park and so has reduced wildlife predation. The Richmond officials are mistaken if they believe they can completely eliminate the impact on wildlife by trying to remove all the cats. History has shown time and time again that when you create a vacuum by removing a feral colony, new unneutered cats take their place from having been newly abandoned, not trapped, or migrated from neighboring feral colonies. These new cats rapidly reproduce as long as any food source remains and the situation ends up worse, not better, for wildlife. The only effective solution is a neutered, managed feral colony with a slowly declining population. What will happen otherwise in Glen Miller Park is an endless cycle of trapping and removing cats, who are then replaced by new cats who overbreed, then trapping, then new cats, etc. The futility and expense of this approach is why so many communities are now turning to TNR. What a shame if one community that could serve as a shining example and a model to others tries to turn back the clock and go back to failed ways! Let’s keep trying to help them get it right. =====

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | If you have not yet contacted them — or even if you have — this is | the time to contact the city, today. | | City of Richmond’s phone number is (765) 983-7200 | | Thank you. Forwarded from a private mailing list: ===== Thank you everyone for all your great work! The Richmond phone lines and email have been flooded with your letters and calls, so much in fact, that here are their fax numbers if you can’t get through or have another thought to add:

This is good. I took the tack that the case is now *well known* on the Internet and is impacting their city image as being an inhumane place in our nation. Sometimes, that is something that city officials value more than anything else. I’m glad to hear letters, faxes and calls are having an effect. Karen

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear Friends, Thanks to Arjun Ray for fowarding the letter from Greg from IndyFerals.  Here is some more information about what has been happening and what is going on. After the horrible editorial mentioned in my last update, two of the members of the group caring for these cats were allowed a guest editorial, which was excellent.  They educated the staff of newspaper about TNR (of which the writer knew absolutely nothing).  Another article has run since then, which was more balanced and fair.  In it, however, the Parks Superintendent was suggesting that he was not going to just leave the cats alone.  Relocating them was mentioned, however. The group has been working on getting local support.  They have appeared on the radio in the past few days.  They have gotten in touch with the IndyFerals group for help.  They also have been attempting to find an attorney to help them, but none so far seem willing to touch this case.  It is possible they may be able to get a preliminary injunction to stop all action until the issue is resolved. The Parks Board has refused to meet with the group in an open question-and-answer session.  Instead, as Arjun passed along, they are planning on holding a meeting tomorrow (June 19) and making a decision at this time. If you have not yet contacted them — or even if you have — this is the time to contact the city, today. City of Richmond’s phone number is (765) 983-7200 Thank you. On behalf of the cats, Ginger-lyn

I sent letters to the mayor and city council president some time ago, but will send an e-mail tonight.  I sincerely hope it does some good! —— Krista

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I emailed the mayor, too. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I emailed the mayor this afternoon. Keep us posted. Gail | If you have not yet contacted them — or even if you have — this is | the time to contact the city, today. | | City of Richmond’s phone number is (765) 983-7200 | | Thank you. Forwarded from a private mailing list: ===== Thank you everyone for all your great work! The Richmond phone lines and email have been flooded with your letters and calls, so much in fact, that here are their fax numbers if you can’t get through or have another thought to add: to fax Mayor Shelley Miller: 765-983-7212 to fax Stan Lambert, Director of Parks &Recreation: 765-983-7279 Now they’re at least telling people they intend to relocate, not kill, the cats, so we’re making progress. They know they’re being watched, too, which is so important. The main argument they’re making for removing the cats is that the cats are hunting wildlife in the park. While this is undoubtedly true to some extent, it’s also true that the TNR program has reduced the number of cats in the park and so has reduced wildlife predation. The Richmond officials are mistaken if they believe they can completely eliminate the impact on wildlife by trying to remove all the cats. History has shown time and time again that when you create a vacuum by removing a feral colony, new unneutered cats take their place from having been newly abandoned, not trapped, or migrated from neighboring feral colonies. These new cats rapidly reproduce as long as any food source remains and the situation ends up worse, not better, for wildlife. The only effective solution is a neutered, managed feral colony with a slowly declining population. What will happen otherwise in Glen Miller Park is an endless cycle of trapping and removing cats, who are then replaced by new cats who overbreed, then trapping, then new cats, etc. The futility and expense of this approach is why so many communities are now turning to TNR. What a shame if one community that could serve as a shining example and a model to others tries to turn back the clock and go back to failed ways! Let’s keep trying to help them get it right. =====

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Dear Friends, Thanks to Arjun Ray for fowarding the letter from Greg from IndyFerals.  Here is some more information about what has been happening and what is going on. After the horrible editorial mentioned in my last update, two of the members of the group caring for these cats were allowed a guest editorial, which was excellent.  They educated the staff of newspaper about TNR (of which the writer knew absolutely nothing).  Another article has run since then, which was more balanced and fair.  In it, however, the Parks Superintendent was suggesting that he was not going to just leave the cats alone.  Relocating them was mentioned, however. The group has been working on getting local support.  They have appeared on the radio in the past few days.  They have gotten in touch with the IndyFerals group for help.  They also have been attempting to find an attorney to help them, but none so far seem willing to touch this case.  It is possible they may be able to get a preliminary injunction to stop all action until the issue is resolved. The Parks Board has refused to meet with the group in an open question-and-answer session.  Instead, as Arjun passed along, they are planning on holding a meeting tomorrow (June 19) and making a decision at this time. If you have not yet contacted them — or even if you have — this is the time to contact the city, today. City of Richmond’s phone number is (765) 983-7200 Thank you. On behalf of the cats, Ginger-lyn

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In Ontario only, at the moment. There was a bill passed on Dec. 5 which changes that. They are in the process of developing a list of requirements. See the following link to an article on the CGA Ontario website regarding the changes: http://www.cga-ontario.org/newfiles/media/releases/releases/02-2003-6… — Stephanie Serba, AICIA Partner, Durham Business Outsource Bookkeeping & Technology www.dbo.ca

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So CMA’s can sign off on audited financial statements in Canada? News to me. I believe in Ontario is the last place where CGA’s or CMA’s cannot YET sign off on audited financial statements. However, on Dec. 5 that changed. The law now allows for this, but the requirements to obtain the license are currently being prepared by a University of Toronto professor.

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How valuable is the CPA certificate in Canada ?

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How valuable is the CPA certificate in Canada ?

Not terribly; it will typically /not/ allow you to sign off on audits and similar accounting engagements, and the locals are generally looking for CAs, who /do/ have that ability in all jurisdictions, or perhaps CGAs, who have the ability in many jurisdictions. — http://cbbrowne.com/info/linuxdistributions.html Computers  in the future  may weigh  no more  than 1.5  tons. -Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949

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How valuable is the CPA certificate in Canada ?

Pretty much useless.  Unless you are working for a multinational company with extensive operations in the UAS.  A CA (Chartered Accountant) is Canada equilivent to a CPA. — Regards, Mark X Rigotti

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I believe in Ontario is the last place where CGA’s or CMA’s cannot YET sign off on audited financial statements. However, on Dec. 5 that changed. The law now allows for this, but the requirements to obtain the license are currently being prepared by a University of Toronto professor. — Stephanie Serba, AICIA (future CGA) Partner, Durham Business Outsource Bookkeeping & Technology www.dbo.ca

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How valuable is the CPA certificate in Canada ? Not terribly; it will typically /not/ allow you to sign off on audits and similar accounting engagements, and the locals are generally looking for CAs, who /do/ have that ability in all jurisdictions, or perhaps CGAs, who have the ability in many jurisdictions. — http://cbbrowne.com/info/linuxdistributions.html Computers  in the future  may weigh  no more  than 1.5  tons. -Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949

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So CMA’s can sign off on audited financial statements in Canada? News to me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I believe in Ontario is the last place where CGA’s or CMA’s cannot YET sign off on audited financial statements. However, on Dec. 5 that changed. The law now allows for this, but the requirements to obtain the license are currently being prepared by a University of Toronto professor.

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If you are not looking to get a public accounting licence, not looking to sign audit reports, and not looking to immediately dive into Canadian tax work, then many employers are quite aware that a CPA is approximately comparable to a CA.  I’ve known a few CPAs working quite successfully in Canada – as well as Australian and Canadian and UK CAs working in the US and other countries as Accounting Managers, Controllers, Treasurers.  Some Canadian public accounting firms may be quite interested in hiring a CPA for US tax work.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How valuable is the CPA certificate in Canada ? Not terribly; it will typically /not/ allow you to sign off on audits and similar accounting engagements, and the locals are generally looking for CAs, who /do/ have that ability in all jurisdictions, or perhaps CGAs, who have the ability in many jurisdictions.

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Reminds me of when Microsoft tried to buy Intuit.     A long time ago in a galaxy far far away "MC" On April 30, Microsoft announced its intent to buy Navision for $1.2 billion, and according to a news story, the sale may go through as early as the second week of May. By combining Navision with its recently acquisition of Great Plains, reports confirm that Microsoft would become one of the world’s leading providers of business planning software to mid-sized companies, a high-growth market segment in which to expand. Read the full story at <http://www.forbes.com/markets/newswire/2002/04/30/rtr587049.html. Source: Forbes.com

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I work for an accounting software firm in Florida. We have a couple of thousand customers across the US from N. Carolina to California.  Many of these businesses have been with us for several years, and even though our product has evolved from straight DOS to a full 32-bit Windows product, I would say 70-75% of them still like the character based (Windows) interface. The accounting data stays in one folder either on the server or standalone, and you can use the same CD to install Character based, Windows, Linux, SCO Unix or IBM AIX and have all these different OS’s access the same data at the same time. Its seems to me that having been in the accounting/software business for 15 years, the simpler the better. It may be hard to believe but there are still businesses out there who appreciate the idea of if it aint broke, dont fix it. Microsoft is a software company. Buying up accounting software companies doesnt make them accountants. In accounting there are many instances where you need something and you need it NOW. Sure they can hire accountants to work with them, but the idea of having a product you know works and having people who make sure that if you have a problem they will not leave you until the problem is fixed in not old-fashioned. If the Microsoft idea of software support (pay me up front and MAYBE I will have the answer for you sometime soon) moves to the accounting software companies they buy they will lose a lot of customers in a hurry. Tom

On April 30, Microsoft announced its intent to buy Navision for $1.2 billion, and according to a news story, the sale may go through as early as the second week of May. By combining Navision with its recently acquisition of Great Plains, reports confirm that Microsoft would become one of the world’s leading providers of business planning software to mid-sized companies, a high-growth market segment in which to expand. Read the full story at

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A long time ago in a galaxy far far away "Thomas Brown" Many of these businesses have been with us for several years, and even though our product has evolved from straight DOS to a full 32-bit Windows product, I would say 70-75% of them still like the character based (Windows) interface.

Do you mean a pure DOS session? That figure doesn’t sound right.  I was probably one of the last ones to be dragged kicking and screaming from DOS into Windows.     The accounting data stays in one folder either on the server or standalone, and you can use the same CD to install Character based, Windows, Linux, SCO Unix or IBM AIX and have all these different OS’s access the same data at the same time. Its seems to me that having been in the accounting/software business for 15 years, the simpler the better. It may be hard to believe but there are still businesses out there who appreciate the idea of if it aint broke, dont fix it.

And I’ve worked for some of them.   What companies like Microsoft, Intuit, Intel, and others don’t realize is that many ollder business owners are not comfortable with computers and at the first sign of problems (computer crash, hard drive crash, corrupt file) they are ready to trash the whole thing and go back to the old methods (hand written ledgers, typewritten invoices. etc.)   Many busines owners are ready, at a momemnts notice, to trash the computer system and go back to the way they did things before the computer.   Yes, computers have made things easier, but when they don’t work that doesn’t amount to a hill fo beans for the big cheese.     . To reply remove no spam from my e-mail address. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I work for an accounting software firm in Florida. We have a couple of thousand customers across the US from N. Carolina to California.  Many of these businesses have been with us for several years, and even though our product has evolved from straight DOS to a full 32-bit Windows product, I would say 70-75% of them still like the character based (Windows) interface. The accounting data stays in one folder either on the server or standalone, and you can use the same CD to install Character based, Windows, Linux, SCO Unix or IBM AIX and have all these different OS’s access the same data at the same time.

I assume this is not Navision.  Navision stores all the data in one file (which I guess means one folder as well) on the server and all the client workstations look at that one file (although most of the processing takes place on the clients machines.) Navision is a fairly powerful relational database product which is disguised as an accounting system.  Navision’s big marketing problem in the past has been that it is aimed at a market which isn’t really ready for it: i.e., medium-sized and small businesses.  These businesses tend to be very conservative, and they are also used to the inefficiencies of their old systems.  However, maybe Microsoft’s marketing people will be able to convince Navision’s potential customers that they actually need the product.  Also, Microsoft’s channel management people may be able to recruit enough good Navision resellers to create the critical mass needed to make the product reach its full potential in the market.  (Navision does virtually all of its sales through a worldwide netowrk of "Solution Centers."  In the USA, this network consisted of a rather small number of rather low-budget mom-and-pop operations, along with 2 or 3 larger companies with many branches.)

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It’s a 2 horse race now between MS Great Plains and the Best (formerly Sage) Accounting Softwares. Both brands are very good, but neither one have a very good manufacturing module. The one who gets to Macola (who has decent manufacturing) first may win the race.  Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services     ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY **                 http://www.usenet.com

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Macola was already purchased by Exact software of the Netherlans about a year ago. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s a 2 horse race now between MS Great Plains and the Best (formerly Sage) Accounting Softwares. Both brands are very good, but neither one have a very good manufacturing module. The one who gets to Macola (who has decent manufacturing) first may win the race.  Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services     ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY **                 http://www.usenet.com

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On April 30, Microsoft announced its intent to buy Navision for $1.2 billion, and according to a news story, the sale may go through as early as the second week of May. By combining Navision with its recently acquisition of Great Plains, reports confirm that Microsoft would become one of the world’s leading providers of business planning software to mid-sized companies, a high-growth market segment in which to expand. Read the full story at <http://www.forbes.com/markets/newswire/2002/04/30/rtr587049.html. Source: Forbes.com

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Does anyone have experience with integrating an existing AccountMate package with an eCommerce web site? I’m looking for information related to the VAM Internet Order Application from a real-live customer, not a sales person. What other storefront solutions will integrate with AccountMate back-end accounting and inventory packages? Thanks for the help.

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Not real familiar with AccountMate, but I know it is the number 2 FoxPro accounting program in size.  Since it uses DBF’s it is very easy to merge with anything. Does the VAM client happen to be Walgreens?  Have been looking at the e-business with them for a client of mine and seems to be a bit more complex then normal. Bill Couture

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Thanks for the response. What is DBF? The client is not Walgreens, just a small manufacturing company.

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A DBF is an xbase data table.  AccountMate use Visual FoxPro as it’s database. A Visual FoxPro database will have a DBF and possibly an FPT, and CDX portions.  The max size is 2 gigs.  With proper indexing they are probably faster then Oracle in a small system. Bill Couture

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Didn’t that industry software group, name escapes me, offer software for free that did this?  Run it once and it listed everything on the machine, or something like that.

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Our software DOES NOT use an inbuilt database, hence avoids the pitfalls of most other auditing techniques! NEW SOFTWARE COMPLIANCE AUDIT TOOLS TO ASSIST YOU PC Software Compliance Auditing by exception http://www.pcprofile.com/baseline.htm One of the hardest and most frustrating tasks in PC software management is identifying and locating software that has been added to computers after initial audits have been conducted.  It is a tedious, time consuming and costly process to continually repeat audits to satisfy yourself and management, that what is installed is legal! And the goalposts keep changing behind your back as you conduct repeat audits! If you are about to conduct any form of software inventory on desktops and notebook computer systems you know that the task is daunting. Why? Well, as soon as you have conducted the audit the "local user" adds more software, deletes software, or just changes the directory structures around. The result is, that when you come back later to do second and third audits you have to go over the "same old ground" again! They might even try and "hide" files on you to "beat the audit". IF YOU WANT TO LOWER THE COST OF REPEAT  AUDITS ON PC’s THEN AUDIT-Baseline CAN ASSIST THAT GOAL! http://www.pcprofile.com/baseline.htm subject=Send_Pricing_details_AUDIT_BASELINE&bod y=Please_e- mail_details_about_prices_to_audit_xxxxxx_PC’s_for_AUDIT_BASELINE _(insert_number_of_PC’s) A company here in the US has similar product.  www.blueocean.com has Track-It.  I wrote the Dos to Windows conversion back in 94 and the product has gotten better with age. You can get a demo to see how it works, and it picks up tons of titles. __Stephen

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dy=Please_e_mail_details_about_pricing_for_Software_Compliance_Audit_Too – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – lkit_to_audit_xxxxxx_PC’s (insert number of PC’s) (Cut and paste this long url if it doesnt all link up in your e-mail system) NOTES REGARDING SOFTWARE COMPLIANCE AUDITORS TOOLKIT 1. Due to the proprietary manner in which we gather the audit details relative to each PC this software can only be run from CDROM. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GATHER the level of details contained in the audit files via a floppy disk audit as we need to include special drivers and files to capture this information. 2. This software cannot be installed to a local PC from this CDROM version. It is set-up to be run from the CDROM and writes 2 audit files for each PC audit, (TXT and RTF) by node name, back to a floppy disk that you need to insert  in drive A and each floppy will hold the contents of approx 4 to 5 audits (based on typical PC systems). NOTE: If you need a desktop installation program to install it on each PC then please see 5 below. 3.  If you are auditing PC’s containing Windows 3.1, 3.11, Windows NT 3.51 or 4.0, some application details may not be retrievable by AUDIT Manager Version 2.1.  Application executable’s version information is identified using standard Windows naming conventions and where applications do not follow this format then it is NOT POSSIBLE to have this detail identified and displayed. To assist you in this manner the audit file generated (yyyymmdd.RTF) will show files first by IDENTIFIED APPLICATION name, and then will list those files detected BUT NOT named. A sample audit RTF audit report is available at  http://www.pcprofile.com/20000806.zip On the CDROM based Software Compliance Auditors Toolkit we INCLUDE a database of approx 33,000 exe file names (44,000 incl dll’s and other program names) to assist you in cross matching (using a parsing routine that you can develop in- house) to identify from the database of file names supplied. 4. We also include in the Software Compliance Auditors Toolkit      AUDIT-DLL looks strictly at DLL files only            (helps manage dll conflicts by identifying by name each dll)       AUDIT-Image looks strictly at 3 major image file types             (helps manage hard disk space!)       AUDIT-MP3 looks strictly at major sound file types            (helps manage hard disk space and wasted time on music downloads!) OTHER AUDIT TOOLS AVAILABLE AS OPTIONAL EXTRAS 5. There are other versions of this software as follows which can be installed direct to the desktop and these generate 3 files (TXT, CSV and RTF) for each PC;  AUDIT-Manager version 2.1 (installs direct to each PC)  http://www.pcprofile.com/auditmv2.htm  System requirements Windows 95, Windows 98,   Windows NT version 3  and 4 to Service pack level 5 is the highest level installation available so far. 6. Additional audit tool options to assist management of desktop PC’s Add-Ons are currently under development for the desktop installed version of AUDIT-Manager version 2.1   AUDIT-Manager Compare (scheduled for release by Nov 2000)          this addon module to AUDIT-Manager v 2.1 desktop version –          extracts details about the variation state between audits.          It identifies additions, changes and deletions between audits          to enable better management control, reduce risk and reduce          the cost of auditing!   AUDIT-Manager View   (scheduled for release by Nov 2000)        this addon module to AUDIT-Manager v 2.1 (desktop installed        version) provides a visual display of audit status across        network connected PC’s so that the manager has a view of how        current the audit status is in the organisation.  Runs by server        and uses colour status indicators to show hot-spot areas that        haven’t been audited recently.  AUDIT-REGISTRY looks strictly at key Registry entries (scheduled  for release by Nov 2000)  (helps manage desktop PC’s!) CONTACT DETAILS subject=Software_Compliance_Auditors_Toolkit&bo

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A company here in the US has similar product.  www.blueocean.com has Track-It.  I wrote the Dos to Windows conversion back in 94 and the product has gotten better with age. You can get a demo to see how it works, and it picks up tons of titles. __Stephen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – NEW PRODUCT FOR AUDITORS, ACCOUNTANTS & IT MANAGERS We now  have available what we believe is the FIRST CD-ROM based auditors toolkit (SOFTWARE COMPLIANCE AUDITORS TOOLKIT ) on the market that enables auditors and accountants to do a thorough desktop audit, on demand, of any PC with a fitted CDROM, to IDENTIFY what is installed on that specific PC. The Software Compliance Auditors Toolkit CDROM is designed to audit Windows based desktop PC systems and extract sufficient details to enable you to match licences, disk etc with installed software. It’s primary aim and focus is to ENSURE that you have the means to survive a desktop audit by any of the anti-piracy bodies (Microsoft, BSAA, FAST, BSA etc) and more importantly to ensure that the policies that you have in place for desktop installation and ownership of software are being followed. Getting CAUGHT with illegal software costs HEAPS of money. See BUSTED at http://www.pcprofile.com/busted2.htm This tool also provides a means for you to investigate DLL conflicts, and downloads of sound and image files to your systems that may be wasting both time, bandwidth and productivity, thus costing your organisation MONEY! Traditional audit’s with some software tools could only tell the following details about software installed on your PC C:Program FilesPhotoDeluxe HE 3.1EZPhoto The Software Compliance Auditors Toolkit tells you the following about software installed on a PC; C:Program FilesPhotoDeluxe HE 3.1EZPhoto Storm Technology. Inc. EZPHOTO.EXE This is the MINIMUM level of detail you need to know about each software application so that you can match licences and disks to installed software as evidence that you own licences for what is installed. SOFTWARE COMPLIANCE AUDITORS TOOLKIT CDROM version comprises;    AUDIT-Manager v 2.1 CDROM version    AUDIT-DLL    AUDIT-Image    AUDIT-MP3    Software Compliance Screen Message system    Large database of 33,000 exe file names (44,000 in total)    Database of 3,000 file types    Managers toolkit of documents, policies and procedures and audit tips    Software Compliance PowerPoint slide show    Links to web pages for software audit resources for auditors subject=Software_Compliance_Auditors_Toolkit&bo dy=Please_e_mail_details_about_pricing_for_Software_Compliance_Audit_Too lkit_to_audit_xxxxxx_PC’s (insert number of PC’s) (Cut and paste this long url if it doesnt all link up in your e-mail system) NOTES REGARDING SOFTWARE COMPLIANCE AUDITORS TOOLKIT 1. Due to the proprietary manner in which we gather the audit details relative to each PC this software can only be run from CDROM. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GATHER the level of details contained in the audit files via a floppy disk audit as we need to include special drivers and files to capture this information. 2. This software cannot be installed to a local PC from this CDROM version. It is set-up to be run from the CDROM and writes 2 audit files for each PC audit, (TXT and RTF) by node name, back to a floppy disk that you need to insert  in drive A and each floppy will hold the contents of approx 4 to 5 audits (based on typical PC systems). NOTE: If you need a desktop installation program to install it on each PC then please see 5 below. 3.  If you are auditing PC’s containing Windows 3.1, 3.11, Windows NT 3.51 or 4.0, some application details may not be retrievable by AUDIT Manager Version 2.1.  Application executable’s version information is identified using standard Windows naming conventions and where applications do not follow this format then it is NOT POSSIBLE to have this detail identified and displayed. To assist you in this manner the audit file generated (yyyymmdd.RTF) will show files first by IDENTIFIED APPLICATION name, and then will list those files detected BUT NOT named. A sample audit RTF audit report is available at  http://www.pcprofile.com/20000806.zip On the CDROM based Software Compliance Auditors Toolkit we INCLUDE a database of approx 33,000 exe file names (44,000 incl dll’s and other program names) to assist you in cross matching (using a parsing routine that you can develop in-house) to identify from the database of file names supplied. 4. We also include in the Software Compliance Auditors Toolkit      AUDIT-DLL looks strictly at DLL files only            (helps manage dll conflicts by identifying by name each dll)       AUDIT-Image looks strictly at 3 major image file types             (helps manage hard disk space!)       AUDIT-MP3 looks strictly at major sound file types            (helps manage hard disk space and wasted time on music downloads!) OTHER AUDIT TOOLS AVAILABLE AS OPTIONAL EXTRAS 5. There are other versions of this software as follows which can be installed direct to the desktop and these generate 3 files (TXT, CSV and RTF) for each PC;  AUDIT-Manager version 2.1 (installs direct to each PC)  http://www.pcprofile.com/auditmv2.htm  System requirements Windows 95, Windows 98,   Windows NT version 3  and 4 to Service pack level 5 is the highest level installation available so far. 6. Additional audit tool options to assist management of desktop PC’s Add-Ons are currently under development for the desktop installed version of AUDIT-Manager version 2.1   AUDIT-Manager Compare (scheduled for release by Nov 2000)          this addon module to AUDIT-Manager v 2.1 desktop version –          extracts details about the variation state between audits.          It identifies additions, changes and deletions between audits          to enable better management control, reduce risk and reduce          the cost of auditing!   AUDIT-Manager View   (scheduled for release by Nov 2000)        this addon module to AUDIT-Manager v 2.1 (desktop installed        version) provides a visual display of audit status across        network connected PC’s so that the manager has a view of how        current the audit status is in the organisation.  Runs by server        and uses colour status indicators to show hot-spot areas that        haven’t been audited recently.  AUDIT-REGISTRY looks strictly at key Registry entries (scheduled  for release by Nov 2000)  (helps manage desktop PC’s!) CONTACT DETAILS subject=Software_Compliance_Auditors_Toolkit&bo dy=Please_e_mail_details_about_pricing_for_Software_Compliance_Audit_Too lkit_to_audit_xxxxxx_PC’s (insert number of PC’s) (Cut and paste this long url if it doesnt all link up in your e-mail system) Software Compliance Auditors Toollkit, AUDIT Manager and Software Inventory System is Copyright 1999-2000 (C) Rob Harmer Consulting Services Pty Ltd All rights reserved Worldwide Rob Harmer Consulting Services Pty Ltd P.O. Box 196 Modbury North Sth Australia 5092 fax +61 8 8265 1961 http://www.pcprofile.com Provides a focus on issues affecting desktop PC’s, strategies and solutions for business survival! http://www.pcprofile.com fax +61 8 8265 1961 site map at http://www.pcprofile.com/sitemap.htm Before you buy.

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NEW PRODUCT FOR AUDITORS, ACCOUNTANTS & IT MANAGERS We now  have available what we believe is the FIRST CD-ROM based auditors toolkit (SOFTWARE COMPLIANCE AUDITORS TOOLKIT ) on the market that enables auditors and accountants to do a thorough desktop audit, on demand, of any PC with a fitted CDROM, to IDENTIFY what is installed on that specific PC. The Software Compliance Auditors Toolkit CDROM is designed to audit Windows based desktop PC systems and extract sufficient details to enable you to match licences, disk etc with installed software. It’s primary aim and focus is to ENSURE that you have the means to survive a desktop audit by any of the anti-piracy bodies (Microsoft, BSAA, FAST, BSA etc) and more importantly to ensure that the policies that you have in place for desktop installation and ownership of software are being followed. Getting CAUGHT with illegal software costs HEAPS of money. See BUSTED at http://www.pcprofile.com/busted2.htm This tool also provides a means for you to investigate DLL conflicts, and downloads of sound and image files to your systems that may be wasting both time, bandwidth and productivity, thus costing your organisation MONEY! Traditional audit’s with some software tools could only tell the following details about software installed on your PC C:Program FilesPhotoDeluxe HE 3.1EZPhoto The Software Compliance Auditors Toolkit tells you the following about software installed on a PC; C:Program FilesPhotoDeluxe HE 3.1EZPhoto Storm Technology. Inc. EZPHOTO.EXE This is the MINIMUM level of detail you need to know about each software application so that you can match licences and disks to installed software as evidence that you own licences for what is installed. SOFTWARE COMPLIANCE AUDITORS TOOLKIT CDROM version comprises;    AUDIT-Manager v 2.1 CDROM version    AUDIT-DLL    AUDIT-Image    AUDIT-MP3    Software Compliance Screen Message system    Large database of 33,000 exe file names (44,000 in total)    Database of 3,000 file types    Managers toolkit of documents, policies and procedures and audit tips    Software Compliance PowerPoint slide show    Links to web pages for software audit resources for auditors subject=Software_Compliance_Auditors_Toolkit&bo dy=Please_e_mail_details_about_pricing_for_Software_Compliance_Audit_Too lkit_to_audit_xxxxxx_PC’s (insert number of PC’s) (Cut and paste this long url if it doesnt all link up in your e-mail system) NOTES REGARDING SOFTWARE COMPLIANCE AUDITORS TOOLKIT 1. Due to the proprietary manner in which we gather the audit details relative to each PC this software can only be run from CDROM. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GATHER the level of details contained in the audit files via a floppy disk audit as we need to include special drivers and files to capture this information. 2. This software cannot be installed to a local PC from this CDROM version. It is set-up to be run from the CDROM and writes 2 audit files for each PC audit, (TXT and RTF) by node name, back to a floppy disk that you need to insert  in drive A and each floppy will hold the contents of approx 4 to 5 audits (based on typical PC systems). NOTE: If you need a desktop installation program to install it on each PC then please see 5 below. 3.  If you are auditing PC’s containing Windows 3.1, 3.11, Windows NT 3.51 or 4.0, some application details may not be retrievable by AUDIT Manager Version 2.1.  Application executable’s version information is identified using standard Windows naming conventions and where applications do not follow this format then it is NOT POSSIBLE to have this detail identified and displayed. To assist you in this manner the audit file generated (yyyymmdd.RTF) will show files first by IDENTIFIED APPLICATION name, and then will list those files detected BUT NOT named. A sample audit RTF audit report is available at  http://www.pcprofile.com/20000806.zip On the CDROM based Software Compliance Auditors Toolkit we INCLUDE a database of approx 33,000 exe file names (44,000 incl dll’s and other program names) to assist you in cross matching (using a parsing routine that you can develop in-house) to identify from the database of file names supplied. 4. We also include in the Software Compliance Auditors Toolkit      AUDIT-DLL looks strictly at DLL files only            (helps manage dll conflicts by identifying by name each dll)       AUDIT-Image looks strictly at 3 major image file types             (helps manage hard disk space!)       AUDIT-MP3 looks strictly at major sound file types            (helps manage hard disk space and wasted time on music downloads!) OTHER AUDIT TOOLS AVAILABLE AS OPTIONAL EXTRAS 5. There are other versions of this software as follows which can be installed direct to the desktop and these generate 3 files (TXT, CSV and RTF) for each PC;  AUDIT-Manager version 2.1 (installs direct to each PC)  http://www.pcprofile.com/auditmv2.htm  System requirements Windows 95, Windows 98,   Windows NT version 3  and 4 to Service pack level 5 is the highest level installation available so far. 6. Additional audit tool options to assist management of desktop PC’s Add-Ons are currently under development for the desktop installed version of AUDIT-Manager version 2.1   AUDIT-Manager Compare (scheduled for release by Nov 2000)          this addon module to AUDIT-Manager v 2.1 desktop version –          extracts details about the variation state between audits.          It identifies additions, changes and deletions between audits          to enable better management control, reduce risk and reduce          the cost of auditing!   AUDIT-Manager View   (scheduled for release by Nov 2000)        this addon module to AUDIT-Manager v 2.1 (desktop installed        version) provides a visual display of audit status across        network connected PC’s so that the manager has a view of how        current the audit status is in the organisation.  Runs by server        and uses colour status indicators to show hot-spot areas that        haven’t been audited recently.  AUDIT-REGISTRY looks strictly at key Registry entries (scheduled  for release by Nov 2000)  (helps manage desktop PC’s!) CONTACT DETAILS subject=Software_Compliance_Auditors_Toolkit&bo dy=Please_e_mail_details_about_pricing_for_Software_Compliance_Audit_Too lkit_to_audit_xxxxxx_PC’s (insert number of PC’s) (Cut and paste this long url if it doesnt all link up in your e-mail system) Software Compliance Auditors Toollkit, AUDIT Manager and Software Inventory System is Copyright 1999-2000 (C) Rob Harmer Consulting Services Pty Ltd All rights reserved Worldwide Rob Harmer Consulting Services Pty Ltd P.O. Box 196 Modbury North Sth Australia 5092 fax +61 8 8265 1961 http://www.pcprofile.com Provides a focus on issues affecting desktop PC’s, strategies and solutions for business survival! http://www.pcprofile.com fax +61 8 8265 1961 site map at http://www.pcprofile.com/sitemap.htm Before you buy.

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Well there was some talk once of hacking the tax table file so people would not have to pay for the updates. But never really saw if anyone could do it. Had my software guys look at the file briefly but figured it would not be worth the time because it only cost $50 to get the updates. Other accounting programs let you update the tax tables manually that is something you may want to look into. But since you can get the Qbooks ver 6.0 for free and if your computer will run at least win 95 with maybe just some memory being added it may not be worth the trouble of dealing with a new software package if you know Qbooks well. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Unfortunately, you can only get the "free" QB6 (which is the lowest version that will do payroll after Y2K) if you renew your subscription to the tax table…I just went through this exercise with Intuit and am not happy about it. From what I understand from looking on the Intuit web site & talking to other users, QB6 and QB99 etc have a lot of unresolved problems. I’m not sure that I want to pay $69 for the tax table service only to find out that QB6 really doesn’t do much… Would switching to Peachtree be a better alternative? Any info would be greatly appreciated. I run a small business & do payroll (& billing) through QB so I need an alternative. Thanks, B. Tokay Spoke to Intuit Today and was told they will no longer offer Tax updates for Versions 5 or lower.  But the good news is that all those versions will be Y2K complient. Alot of good that will do you if you do Payroll.   I received a letter from Intuit stateing that they have Y2K updates for ALL versions of Quickbooks. Cost is $9.95 for cd or Free to download.  Even DOS version 1.0  Why would they go through the trouble of making all there old programs Y2K and then no longer support the Tax updates. PS: If you ever subscribed to the Tax table updates for versions 5 or less you may be able to get a FREE version of Qbooks 6 from Intuit. I was told its there way of making up for the fact that they will no longer be offering tax updates for there older versions.

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Would switching to Peachtree be a better alternative?

IMO, in a huge majority of cases, PT beats QB  – switching any software is a pain of course

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Spoke to Intuit Today and was told they will no longer offer Tax updates for Versions 5 or lower.  But the good news is that all those versions will be Y2K complient. Alot of good that will do you if you do Payroll.   I received a letter from Intuit stateing that they have Y2K updates for ALL versions of Quickbooks. Cost is $9.95 for cd or Free to download.  Even DOS version 1.0  Why would they go through the trouble of making all there old programs Y2K and then no longer support the Tax updates. PS: If you ever subscribed to the Tax table updates for versions 5 or less you may be able to get a FREE version of Qbooks 6 from Intuit. I was told its there way of making up for the fact that they will no longer be offering tax updates for there older versions.

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Unfortunately, you can only get the "free" QB6 (which is the lowest version that will do payroll after Y2K) if you renew your subscription to the tax table…I just went through this exercise with Intuit and am not happy about it. From what I understand from looking on the Intuit web site & talking to other users, QB6 and QB99 etc have a lot of unresolved problems. I’m not sure that I want to pay $69 for the tax table service only to find out that QB6 really doesn’t do much… Would switching to Peachtree be a better alternative? Any info would be greatly appreciated. I run a small business & do payroll (& billing) through QB so I need an alternative. Thanks, B. Tokay – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Spoke to Intuit Today and was told they will no longer offer Tax updates for Versions 5 or lower.  But the good news is that all those versions will be Y2K complient. Alot of good that will do you if you do Payroll.   I received a letter from Intuit stateing that they have Y2K updates for ALL versions of Quickbooks. Cost is $9.95 for cd or Free to download.  Even DOS version 1.0  Why would they go through the trouble of making all there old programs Y2K and then no longer support the Tax updates. PS: If you ever subscribed to the Tax table updates for versions 5 or less you may be able to get a FREE version of Qbooks 6 from Intuit. I was told its there way of making up for the fact that they will no longer be offering tax updates for there older versions.

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QuickBooks Pro 99 will let you export any QuickBooks report to an Excel Spreadsheet with one click on a button labeled Excel on the report screen. From there you can use the Excel Save As command to save the file as a comma delimited text file (*.csv). — Richard W. Vaccaro, CPA http://www.baranskyvaccaro.com

Can anyone tell me if Quickbooks will allow a client of ours to export transaction details into a text or comma delimited file format so that we can import it into a real accounting system? Thanks. Bob Rollar infosoft

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Can anyone tell me if Quickbooks will allow a client of ours to export = transaction details into a text or comma delimited file format so that = we can import it into a real accounting system?

One of the print options in all QB programs is to print to a text or tab delineated or comma delineated file. KLGott Get Hot Water Fast with the new Chilipepper appliance www.chilipepperapp.com

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Hello everyone! I’m new to this group (been lurking for quite some time…) I enjoy all kinds of crafts –  cross stitch, quilting, sewing, occassional knitting or crochet. My main problem is finding time for all my hobbies (I also love to read, have many "collections", a husband and three kitties to occupy my time…)I recently went back to grad school after being out of school for 10 years and haven’t been able to complete a thing! I’m hoping that this semester will be easier, I was so overwhelmed being back in school that I hardly took any time for leisure activities. I’m just wondering if there are any other students out there who stitch…and how in the world do you find time to do it without feeling guilty?!! Diana

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I just finished my MS after 7 years out of school.  I was working full time, husband, two dogs. Unfortunately  I did not have any guiltless time.  I would not pick up a needle for 14 weeks, but then did not put the needle down for the two weeks between semesters. My only advice ENJOY the breaks!!  Good luck! Magda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello everyone! I’m new to this group (been lurking for quite some time…) I enjoy all kinds of crafts –  cross stitch, quilting, sewing, occassional knitting or crochet. My main problem is finding time for all my hobbies (I also love to read, have many "collections", a husband and three kitties to occupy my time…)I recently went back to grad school after being out of school for 10 years and haven’t been able to complete a thing! I’m hoping that this semester will be easier, I was so overwhelmed being back in school that I hardly took any time for leisure activities. I’m just wondering if there are any other students out there who stitch…and how in the world do you find time to do it without feeling guilty?!! Diana

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I’ve been studying part time for six years – about to start my seventh, during that time I have also worked full time. Sometimes, you simply have to decide what is more important.  Finishing an assignment  or a UFO?  You know the assignment should win, but a few stitches sometimes helps you feel you have actually achieved something. Try to stick to smaller projects during semester, get the big stuff done during the holidays.  I have had UFO’s for ages I didn’t want to get too involved with again for fear of neglecting assignments or homework. Don’t ever feel guilty about walking away from your homework to stitch.  You will have times when you just need to clear your head of whatever you have been doing and go back to it later.  A complete change may be what you need. Beware though to try to limit your time when you do this, otherwise time just slips away and you haven’t finished what you needed to. Above all remember why you started to study again.  The sense of achievement (and relief) when your results arrive in the mail  will be worth it. Good luck. Mary Finally finished Advanced Diploma of Accounting after 6 years. One semester to go of Certificate of Information Technology – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello everyone! I’m new to this group (been lurking for quite some time…) I enjoy all kinds of crafts –  cross stitch, quilting, sewing, occassional knitting or crochet. My main problem is finding time for all my hobbies (I also love to read, have many "collections", a husband and three kitties to occupy my time…)I recently went back to grad school after being out of school for 10 years and haven’t been able to complete a thing! I’m hoping that this semester will be easier, I was so overwhelmed being back in school that I hardly took any time for leisure activities. I’m just wondering if there are any other students out there who stitch…and how in the world do you find time to do it without feeling guilty?!! Diana

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In classes where I find myself falling asleep (and there are more then one!), I usually work on a small Christmas ornament, or something very simple.  Otherwise, I do my best to make a bit of time at least every other day.  Usually, I read on the bus to school to get that out of my system (I devour books!), and I do a bit of stitching either just before I do my homework or just after.  And I have many projects on the go, so if I get annoyed with one I can do another.  I figure school is bad enough, why have my hobby annoy me too!     Heather

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When I was at University I really found it hard to keep up with my crafts and didn’t do much in term time.  However we had semesters of 10 weeks with one of those weeks being a "reading week".  I used to just do uni work in term time and really looked forward to those long holidays when I could stitch, knit and sew to my heart’s content knowing that I had worked solidly all term – I didn’t feel guilty – not when I was doing a degree as a single parent of 2 kids and *still* got all my work done.  I deserved time off to stitch! stef -Hounslow, England WIP – Clara Bow       Hardanger Heart wedding sampler

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<snip, study, snip devour books!), and I do a bit of stitching either just before I do my homework or just after.  And I have many projects on the go, so if I get

Right on!  Who are these people from the "delayed gratification" school, anyways?  I find it much easier to sit and concentrate on my studies _after_ rewarding myself w/ a little stitching time.   Happy Stitching, Lauren

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I am a first year law student and I understand your problem completely.  I stitch on weekends only after my homework and housecleaning is done and then only for a few hours.  I just finished my Bachelors last spring and have been doing this for the past three years.  Everything takes forever to finish that way but I have actually completed some of my UFOs using that method. Additionally, I take a to go bag in the car for when I take my kids to the dentist, doctors etc while I am waiting I stitch unless there is a major homework assignment pressing.  But generally, that kill time is my free time and I find I get alot done this way.  Hope that helps.  Cynthia Tisdale

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writes: I am a first year law student and I understand your problem completely.  I stitch on weekends only after my homework and housecleaning is done and then only for a few hours.  

If I’d been into stitching when I was in engineering school, I’d have flunked out! Jacqueline Morgantown WV WIPs:  "Rosy Repose" by Paula Vaughn "Santa Portrait" (Vermillion Stitchery) in JCS 1998 ornament issue Heart of my own (modest) design for DBF’s Valentine’s Day card

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I’m just wondering if there are any other students out there who stitch…and how in the world do you find time to do it without feeling guilty?!! Diana

Hi Diana, I am a pHD student, who is currently writing up my thesis (it’s due to be submitted in 5 weeks time!!).  I also have 2 children (one 8 years old and 1 who is 7 months old.  As you can imagine I don’t have a lot of time for hobbies.  I make my own bread and do lots of baking (probably cos It is cheeper than buying), but I also sew a lot – mainly for relaxatrion – you’ve got to do something as it is very stressful being a mum and a student!! I havent done much cross stiching for a while, cos I’ve got lots of curtains that need making at the moment (we bought our house just under a year ago and are still getting it straight), and I am also making a patrchwork quilt as a weddig present for my sister in law.  THe last cross stich project I completed was just after my baby was born.  That was a beatrix potter birth sampler for her. What I used to do was to take the sewing in to the university with me and do it at lunchtime – very relaxing – I used to sit with my feet up on my desk sewing away!!  (my supervisor thought I was mad!) Don’t feel guilty about spending time on a hobby though – it is hard work being a student, especially if you have got other responsibities, so enjoy it and don’t feel that you have to justify it to anyone.  If you don’t relax somehow you will go mad.  Besides, other students don’t feel guilty about doing sport or going out for a drink do they?? Charlie

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WOW..I can’t believe how many stitching students I heard from! I admire all of you, especially the moms. I’m glad I decided to wait to start a family…I don’t think I could have handled it. My job before going back to school was working with teenagers, believe me school is much easier! I’ve decided to put away my "big" projects for the time being (unless I can break them into short steps) and instead I’m going to work on small items like Christmas ornaments, etc. For sure I’m going to take advantage of some really awesome S.E.X. during breaks as a reward Diana

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Us mums sew cos we need something to keep us sane!!!!! Charlie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – WOW..I can’t believe how many stitching students I heard from! I admire all of you, especially the moms.

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I’m a full-time PhD student who is supposed to be taking her exams this semester (I’m done with class, just being lazy about getting to the All But Dissertation part).  I also work full time–45 hours a week or so–in international marketing.  I guess I find that the busier I am the happier I am.  But I always make time to stitch because if I don’t, I lose my mind.   Isabel WIPs: Some stuff for me; a gift for friend for the end of Id. Some things for the new place.  Things I enjoy.

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I have these same feelings each semester.  This semester I am taking some difficult courses.  As I read my assignments last night, my XS was always in my sight.  I had to move it.  I am planning to give myself at least 2 hours each week to work on my XS. Good luck on your classes, and working on your stitching.  Remember, you are not alone. Sue

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I’m no longer a student (atleast for now.)  I did, however, attend 3 years of law school and stitched the entire time.  In fact, my finished projects pile and stash both grew by leaps and bounds.   A stitching classmate and I always made a trip to the LNS (25 miles away) for a new project 2 or 3 days before exams every semester.   Don’t quit stitching. You need to spend 2 or3 hours a week stitching to keep you sane.  And the night before exams, forget studying.  If you don’t know the info the night before, you won’t know it the next day. Spend the night before or the hours before exams, orals, etc., with your stitching.  It will help you keep calm when the time comes for the exam, trial, orals, or whatever. Connie (who is actually going to finish the Angel of Grace that she started in law school. Finally! this week! after all these years!)

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If I’d been into stitching when I was in engineering school, I’d have flunked out!

When I was in engineering school, I was into stitching!  I basically put stitching (and the rest of my life) on hold when I was in school.  Luckily, my school had a schedule where we spent 3 months in class, then 3 months on co-op.  Not only did I get a chance to stitch after work, but I was making money for stash, too! Jeanne Rochester, NY

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In classes where I find myself falling asleep (and there are more then one!), I usually work on a small Christmas ornament, or something very simple.  Otherwise, I do my best to make a bit of time at least every other day.  Usually, I read on the bus to school to get that out of my system (I devour books!), and I do a bit of stitching either just before I do my homework or just after.  And I have many projects on the go, so if I get annoyed with one I can do another.  I figure school is bad enough, why have my hobby annoy me too!     Heather

I’m in my second year of Optometry school and I started stitching in school this year.  It has made all the difference.  I only work on small projects (so I can pay attention and my professors won’t notice) and it keeps me awake.  I was amazed to find that my grades were better in the classes I had stitched through.  I think keeping my hands busy keeps me awake and keeps my mind active.  I have an amazing number of classmates interested in the progress of my little ornaments.  I’m just waiting for the day when one of my professors figures out what I’m doing with all my strange hand motions when I should be writing things down.  I do squeeze in some time to do my bigger projects when I’m watching TV during breaks from  homework.  I have to admit I have more UFO’s than finished projects but I think that will change once I finish school. Kelly

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I have more UFO’s than finished projects but I think that will change once I finish school. Kelly

Unless you get married, have children, a house to take care of, pets, etc., etc.  It’s a struggle for everyone. Keep stitching! Greta ps-over time we only seem to add to the stash, I have many more UFO’s every year

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When I was in engineering school, I was into stitching!  I basically put stitching (and the rest of my life) on hold when I was in school.  Luckily, my school had a schedule where we spent 3 months in class, then 3 months on co-op.  Not only did I get a chance to stitch after work, but I was making money for stash, too! Jeanne Rochester, NY

Same here.  I got as much stitching time in as I could during my co-op work periods, and during Christmas and Spring Break.  But, when I was in Engineering grad school, I basically had to give it up for a couple years (working full time and grad school at night). Colleen The Pattern Connection http://www.cboss.com/zandzcrafters

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m just wondering if there are any other students out there who stitch…and how in the world do you find time to do it without feeling guilty?!! Diana <snip Don’t feel guilty about spending time on a hobby though – it is hard work being a student, especially if you have got other responsibities, so enjoy it and don’t feel that you have to justify it to anyone.  If you don’t relax somehow you will go mad.  Besides, other students don’t feel guilty about doing sport or going out for a drink do they?? Charlie

It’s been proven in medical studies that the act of knitting reduces one’s blood pressure.  I like to think the same must be true of all crafts.  So tell yourself it’s essential for your health.  Then there’s also that little thing called Sanity… Keep stitching as often as you can manage because it’s GOOD for you. Susan K. in MA

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I agree with what others have said about the usefulness of setting aside time for stitching.  I know in my grad program, the work and reading could easily expand to fill every available second of every day.  And if I allowed it to do that, I would surely have gone postal years ago.  :) Even just a little bit on most days is good.  And every now and again I declare a mini-holiday (usually on a Saturday or Sunday) and spend a few blissful hours listening to music and stitching away. Sherri

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I sure can relate .. I started college at the age of 40 .. graduated in May 98 with my BSW and am now in grad school going for my MSW (Masters of Social Work) .. all this school stuff sure interfers with my stitching time … May I graduate and I can’t wait .. my stash is sooooooo big. Di

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I’m just wondering if there are any other students out there who stitch…and how in the world do you find time to do it without feeling guilty?!!

I have ONE more chapter of my thesis to write, and then I can probably start to live a more normal life!!!  And get back to sewing, and hopefully start to get all the UFO’s under control! Charlie

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Good luck. Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m just wondering if there are any other students out there who stitch…and how in the world do you find time to do it without feeling guilty?!! I have ONE more chapter of my thesis to write, and then I can probably start to live a more normal life!!!  And get back to sewing, and hopefully start to get all the UFO’s under control! Charlie

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I’m just wondering if there are any other students out there who stitch…and how in the world do you find time to do it without feeling guilty?!! I have ONE more chapter of my thesis to write, and then I can probably start to live a more normal life!!!  And get back to sewing, and hopefully start to get all the UFO’s under control!

Actually, after I finished my doctorate, my UFOs got completely out of hand — because I had a job, and was earning some real money for the first time, and could afford to accumulate an embarrassing amount of stash.  Also, when I was a student, stitching provided a relief from long hours of reading and writing. Now, in my job, I don’t get to read much.  So when I come home from work, I tend to pick up a book rather than an embroidery project.

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I’m just wondering if there are any other students out there who stitch…and how in the world do you find time to do it without feeling guilty?!!

Hi, I’m glad to hear that I am not the only student who x-stiches.  I try to do some at night to get a break from studying and to unwind before going to bed. Steve

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