As a panic disorder sufferer who has it under control through medication and therapy and who refuses to let it control my life as much as I can, I understand what you are saying. The best thing I can tell you is this, do not rush to judgement about things especailly when you are in a panic or depressed state. I can get both sometimes. You make bad decisions and when you do feel better you regret them. Instead wait a few hours or even a day then re evaluate everything. Also as people with panic, we often have difficulty adjusting to new scenarios and situations. You had just started a new job which may have been great for you if you had taken some time to adjust. Just some advice based on the experiences I’ve had.
The important items have been covered. I’ll add a little ‘oblique-angle view’ to consider. It is thought that anxiety, as a disorder, has origin in genetics, neurochemistry anomalies, thinking style and for some it seems there are psycho-social background issues involved. I would not begin to presume to know why you personally have anxiety attacks when triggers present themselves. It may be helpful to consider the idea of "safety", since that is a common theme in your accounting of events and reasons for actions taken/not-taken. Many people who become anxious, including people who have no disorder at all, feel anxiety due to a feeling of not being safe. If they lose their job, how will they pay their mortgage? What if they can’t get another job? What if their house is foreclosed? What if they end up homeless? (sound familiar?) A lady was placed into an ambulance today, in Augusta Georgia, and it went driving down the expressway (as ambulances do) and was struck from the side by an SUV of some sort. The ambulance was flipped, and the lady was unfortunately the one fatality from the accident. She may have felt "more safe" than just prior to the paramedics arrival at her house, she may have felt like she was on her way to a better situation, she may have felt unsafe, or very worried. Her feelings (which are unknown to me; I did not know her) did not ultimately affect the outcome – she died, and not from the health problem that made her seek help. This is obviously a relatively rare circumstance. Unforeseen events (like an accident) can suddenly change everything, so that something that was "reasonably safe" suddenly became "utterly unsafe" and ultimately fatal, in this case. The cognitive strategy here is to focus on "enough". E.G. – I’m safe enough. I’m well-employed enough, I’m happy enough, I’m loved enough and ultimately I am enough. It promotes a center-continuum thinking style, and keeps us from being too far on one end or the other (in this case, too safe/sheltered/self-imprisoned vs. in total peril). Control is the other obvious issue – your safe job could end tomorrow (probably not, but the point being – you can’t "control" it) and so could a new job. The trained ambulance personnel attempted to exert as much control as is feasible, I’m sure, but they could not ultimately control the outcome today. I hope they will focus on all the times that they did succeed in helping the person, rather than on this, which they could not prevent – at least they lived, and have the opportunity to consider it on any level. I hope that you will take a look at what aspects of safety/control exist in your life that may hold inordinate dominion over your own decision-making. This issue is but one of many that are usually explored in great detail in a cognitive-behavioral therapy scenario and I’d encourage you to seek that out, as has already been suggested. Things will be alright. Kindly, Gary
Hi all, A few months ago, I felt that while I did enjoy my current position, I should try to see what else was out there. I knew that there was an opportunity for me to make more money at another company, as well as move to a higher level. I received a job offer from a company that was financially strong, and the offer was about 15% more, not counting bonus potential. I accepted the offer, put in my notice at work and immediately had an anxiety attack…..the attack was so intense that the next day, I immediately notified my current employer that I had made the wrong decision and wanted to stay. They were happy I wasn’t leaving, so all was well. Of course, following that anxiety attack, I had two weeks of "aftershock"…….worrying about everything, like whether my current employer would fire me……I was a wreck for almost a month. I didn’t want to do anything, I was constantly sad….. A few months passed and I was feeling back to normal. I rationalized that my anxiety attack was due to the fact that I didn’t feel up to the job that I had been offered (could have been a lot more hours, and I would have needed to specialize in areas I am unfamiliar with and manage people that I do not know…..unfamiliar territory is not my friend!). Anyhow, I started to have thoughts of starting to look again, and I was contacted by a headhunter that was very impressed with my resume. So impressed, that he told me of a position at a very large company in town that needed someone with my credentials for a position that was being vacated due to an internal promotion. The job itself didn’t sound all that exciting, but the pay was very good, so I thought it wouldn’t hurt to take a look. I met with the department managers and they were all VERY nice….and the benefits at the company were exceptional….and I would even have my own office. Yet, the feelings of an anxiety attack started to creep up. I felt that I needed to be happy with my work, so I decided to call them and tell them that while it was a great company, I knew that the position wouldn’t be very exciting or enticing to me. Still, they wanted me to consider taking the time to meet with the head honcho of the company….so I did. He was also VERY nice, and they were all so impressed with me that they wanted to create a position for me just to get me on board. Anyhow, the anxiety started to creep up again. I spoke at length with my wife about everything, especially knowing that the salary impact would be 30%+ higher than where I am currently at. 30%!!! There were things I like about my current job (I enjoy my work, my co-workers, my proximity to home….I know there is advancement potential) and things I knew I wouldn’t like about the offered job (not close to home, unknown situation, not sure what I would do….and why would they pay me so much more to do less than I am now…..I’m very skeptical!). At the end of the day, I decided to pass on the job, knowing that I am happy where I am at, excluding the compensation piece of things. Plus, so many of my friends are miserable in their jobs, that I know that it might be a bad idea to jump ship from a solid, stable company that I am happy at to go to an unknown situation where I would make a lot more money but could be miserable (and stuck). My decision was made….still, I had a full blown anxiety attack after the decision, and I then followed up with weeks of "aftershocks" worrying about whether I made the wrong decision, wondering why I was having an anxiety attack that I couldn’t explain, worrying about whether I could ever take a new job again without having an anxiety attack, worrying about whether I I am just curious if there are others out there that have had the same experience? If so, is there anything you have done to prevent the anxiety attacks? Is this just a disability that one must live with? I have seen a psychologist, and there is no "cure", just breathing exercises you can do and pills you can take (for me, lorazepam). Sorry so long…….thanks!!!!
Wow what a story and you write SO well! I can see why you are getting so many job offers. You seem to be so intelligent and down to earth. My advice won’t be very long. I’m sure there will be others who can elaborate better than I can, but I’m thinking a therapist might be able to help you right now. You’re already on Lorazepam, do you think the dosage is high enough? It sounds like you might be having some obsessive thoughts. Do you take an anti-depressant? I’m sorry I just realized that you did say that you have seen a psychologist. What is your diagnosis if you don’t mind? It’s pretty obvious that you have GAD, generalized anxiety disorder, but there is more to it than that. Self esteem issues, afraid of change. Would you consider seeing a psychiatrist instead?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, A few months ago, I felt that while I did enjoy my current position, I should try to see what else was out there. I knew that there was an opportunity for me to make more money at another company, as well as move to a higher level. I received a job offer from a company that was financially strong, and the offer was about 15% more, not counting bonus potential. I accepted the offer, put in my notice at work and immediately had an anxiety attack…..the attack was so intense that the next day, I immediately notified my current employer that I had made the wrong decision and wanted to stay. They were happy I wasn’t leaving, so all was well. Of course, following that anxiety attack, I had two weeks of "aftershock"…….worrying about everything, like whether my current employer would fire me……I was a wreck for almost a month. I didn’t want to do anything, I was constantly sad….. A few months passed and I was feeling back to normal. I rationalized that my anxiety attack was due to the fact that I didn’t feel up to the job that I had been offered (could have been a lot more hours, and I would have needed to specialize in areas I am unfamiliar with and manage people that I do not know…..unfamiliar territory is not my friend!). Anyhow, I started to have thoughts of starting to look again, and I was contacted by a headhunter that was very impressed with my resume. So impressed, that he told me of a position at a very large company in town that needed someone with my credentials for a position that was being vacated due to an internal promotion. The job itself didn’t sound all that exciting, but the pay was very good, so I thought it wouldn’t hurt to take a look. I met with the department managers and they were all VERY nice….and the benefits at the company were exceptional….and I would even have my own office. Yet, the feelings of an anxiety attack started to creep up. I felt that I needed to be happy with my work, so I decided to call them and tell them that while it was a great company, I knew that the position wouldn’t be very exciting or enticing to me. Still, they wanted me to consider taking the time to meet with the head honcho of the company….so I did. He was also VERY nice, and they were all so impressed with me that they wanted to create a position for me just to get me on board. Anyhow, the anxiety started to creep up again. I spoke at length with my wife about everything, especially knowing that the salary impact would be 30%+ higher than where I am currently at. 30%!!! There were things I like about my current job (I enjoy my work, my co-workers, my proximity to home….I know there is advancement potential) and things I knew I wouldn’t like about the offered job (not close to home, unknown situation, not sure what I would do….and why would they pay me so much more to do less than I am now…..I’m very skeptical!). At the end of the day, I decided to pass on the job, knowing that I am happy where I am at, excluding the compensation piece of things. Plus, so many of my friends are miserable in their jobs, that I know that it might be a bad idea to jump ship from a solid, stable company that I am happy at to go to an unknown situation where I would make a lot more money but could be miserable (and stuck). My decision was made….still, I had a full blown anxiety attack after the decision, and I then followed up with weeks of "aftershocks" worrying about whether I made the wrong decision, wondering why I was having an anxiety attack that I couldn’t explain, worrying about whether I could ever take a new job again without having an anxiety attack, worrying about I am just curious if there are others out there that have had the same experience? If so, is there anything you have done to prevent the anxiety attacks? Is this just a disability that one must live with? I have seen a psychologist, and there is no "cure", just breathing exercises you can do and pills you can take (for me, lorazepam). Sorry so long…….thanks!!!!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "An internal Halliburton investigation" They found it themselves. "Vice President Dick Cheney was Halliburton’s chief executive at the time of the merger. Hall said there is no indication Cheney was aware" Cheney was not involved. Pretty weak dude. Its an 85 year old company with 100,000 employees. Your going to have things happen from time to time. Just like ANY company that old and large.
I think it’s pretty strong it proves either one of the 2 following logical conclusions: 1) He is guilty but wasn’t caught. In that case the SEC is incompetent/corrupt. 2) He is not guilty. In that case he is an incompetent businessman who has no clue about crimes commited by his closest associates (CFO!!!) – no adequate internal audits etc. But perhaps just coincidece…. Oh wait, here is what I found about Harken energy: http://www.public-i.org/report.aspx?aid=198&sid=200 Noooo! Another SEC investigation?! What are the odds?! Oh well….just so it happens these guys in office today were either too stupid or criminal executives…and just so it happens our economy is in shambles, we had all those nasty corporate scandals, (ENRON was their largest campaign contributor another one of those "coincidences")…..certain companies are making money head over fist on no-bid contracts after an illegal war, and billions are also missing from everywhere from the treasury to the Iraqi Oil revenues: http://www.christianaid.org.uk/indepth/406iraqoilupdate/ Yupp, it’s all a buncha "coincidence". I wonder why we didn’t have these under democrats. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.southtexasrepublicans.com/mcgrody/halliburton_cleared.htm A little background The company, founded 85 years ago, has 103,000 employees on oil, gas and construction projects in 120 countries. "We are building a road in Ireland," Halliburton CEO David Lesar told ABCNEWS. "We are running a railroad in Australia. We are drilling for gas in the Rocky Mountains to bring more gas supplies to the U.S. We are drilling for oil in the Gulf of Mexico. We are building ships in Brazil. We are about 100,000 people doing things on a day-to-day basis." Halliburton built Camp Delta to house suspected terrorist at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, and it provides many other infrastructural services to the U.S. military – 24,000 Halliburton employees work in Iraq alone. The danger in Iraq notwithstanding, hundreds of people from all over the country, looking for work – or work that pays better – are being prepared to go to Iraq, working for Halliburton. "We have 100,000 people that have applied for our jobs," said Lesar. "That is our backlog today. We are still sending 300 or 400 a week." They are employed as construction bosses, electricians, plumbers and cooks. Many former military men and women who were out of work are finding new employment as private contractors. "I’m looking for capital to start my own business, and this is a good way to get it," said one Halliburton job applicant. Dangers of Working in Iraq In Iraq, the military has farmed out everything from base construction to food preparation and laundry washing. Halliburton supplies workers who deliver the mail, fix the trucks, and even drive them. Halliburton jobs in Iraq pay annual salaries of $80,000 after taxes, sometimes more. Thomas Hamill, who escaped from his Iraqi captors this week after being kidnapped, was a private contractor who worked for Halliburton. Hamill’s story is a constant reminder for Lesar of how dangerous Iraq can be for Halliburton employees. To date, 34 Halliburton employees have been killed since the beginning of the Iraq war. "We have had a number of employees killed in Iraq. We have had a number wounded. And we still have two missing," he said. "So the fact that Thomas is back is great news and is something that is good for his family and good for the Halliburton family. But we also have two people missing and our thoughts and prayers are with them." The Pentagon hired Halliburton to restore the Iraqi oil industry without any competitive bidding. The vice president was Halliburton’s last CEO, so needless to say, the company has received a lot of unwanted attention. Lesar, however, thinks the controversy is politically motivated. "I think a lot of that has to do with politics," he said. "The fact that the VP of the United States used to sit in the chair that I sit in, as the CEO of Halliburton – I can’t change the fact that he used to have my job. My job is to look forward. It’s to get the facts out so people can understand what we’re about as a company. And we get this work because we’re good at it." The company is the subject of several investigations, including one by the Pentagon, for overcharging the government. Halliburton worries that the controversy may be bad for business. But the company’s chief said whatever happens, it is in Iraq for the duration. "We signed on for a mission to support the military," Lesar said. "It is certainly a risky mission, as is evidenced by the people that have been killed and wounded. Those are obviously very unfortunate events. The culture of Halliburton has always been a company that runs toward trouble – runs toward supporting the military and not away from it. And our people are absolutely committed to that." Mmm hmmmm. same ol same ol. http://tinyurl.com/6eh5q Halliburton goes back to WWII. Pres. Johnson in Vietnam as well, Johnson family being *major* share holders at the time. Pres Clinton utilized Halliburton for Kosovo. OH yes tens of billions spent on WAR and there were no WMDs, only atrocities to stop. Who owns Halliburton??? It is likely YOU DO. Got a retirement account? You war profiteer you? New York State Teachers Retirement System California State Teachers Retirement System New York State Common Retirement Fund Fidelity Magellan Fund Putnam Fund For Growth and Income Boy all those liberal NY and Cali teachers dont mind making a buck do they? Krooks! You might as well attack Boeing while your at it. Makes about as much sense. Some major or well-known Halliburton shareholders, from NASDAQ.com Holder – Institution or Fund Shares Held % Float Holdings Value Date Rpt’d Capital Research and Management Co 31,725,000 7.21 $964,122,730 31-Mar-04 Morgan Stanley 31,103,924 7.07 $945,248,231 31-Mar-04 Wellington Management Co, Llp 21,452,500 4.87 $651,941,461 31-Mar-04 FMR Corporation 14,933,628 3.39 $453,832,945 31-Mar-04 Barclays Bank Plc 14,668,197 3.33 $445,766,497 31-Mar-04 State Street Corporation 12,255,771 2.78 $372,452,873 31-Mar-04 Lord Abbett & Co 9,845,491 2.24 $299,204,465 31-Mar-04 Putnam Investment Management, LLC 9,102,124 2.07 $276,613,542 31-Mar-04 A I M Management Group Inc. 8,890,691 2.02 $270,188,094 31-Mar-04 Vanguard Group, Inc. 8,746,746 1.99 $265,813,605 31-Mar-04 Citigroup, Inc 7,301,271 1.7 $226,704,000 31-Mar-04 New York State Common Retirement Fund 2,975,605 0.6 $93,732,000 31-Mar-04 Goldman Sachs Group 2,705,619 0.6 $85,227,000 31-Mar-04 California Public Employees Retirement System 1,895,696 0.35 $59,714 31-Mar-04 California State Teachers Retirement System 1,501,063 0.3 $47,283,000 31-Mar-04 Public Employees Retirement System of Ohio 1,533,266 0.3 $48,298,000 30-Jun-04 New York State Teachers Retirement System 1,427,560 0.28 $44,968,000 31-Mar-04 General Electric Co 317,024 0.07 $9,844,000 31-Mar-04 Growth Fund of America Inc 14,855,000 3.38 $451,443,440 31-Mar-04 Van Kampen Comstock Fund 14,215,580 3.23 $369,605,080 31-Dec-03 Fundamental Investors Inc 7,500,000 1.7 $227,924,995 31-Mar-04 Lord Abbett Mid Cap Value Fund 5,939,000 1.35 $154,414,000 31-Dec-03 Fidelity Magellan Fund 5,299,600 1.2 $128,515,300 30-Sep-03 Putnam Fund For Growth and Income 4,652,463 1.06 $111,100,817 31-Oct-03 Washington Mutual Investors Fund 4,300,000 0.98 $130,676,997 31-Mar-04 Vanguard 500 Index Fund 3,956,052 0.9 $102,857,352 31-Dec-03 Hartford Capital Appreciation Hls Fund 3,500,000 0.8 $91,000,000 31-Dec-03 Master Basic Value Trust 3,283,500 0.75 $85,371,000 31-Dec-03
August 19, 2004 04:59 PM US Eastern Timezone Halliburton Joins American Red Cross to Help with Hurricane Charley Aftermath HOUSTON–(BUSINESS WIRE)–Aug. 19, 2004–Halliburton (NYSE:HAL) pledged $100,000 to the American Red Cross’ Disaster Relief Fund, becoming the organization’s newest member of its Annual Disaster Giving Program. Representatives from Halliburton toured some of the most devastated sites near Punta Gorda, Fla., to witness volunteer and support services provided to victims of last week’s hurricane. "The American Red Cross’ efforts in southwest Florida are extraordinary and Halliburton is proud to join the team to assist in any way possible the many people affected by this tragedy," explained Dave Lesar, chairman, president and chief executive officer, Halliburton. "Halliburton has always been committed to help those in need and we are fortunate to have a workforce that is equally committed to helping their neighbors." By participating in the American Red Cross Annual Disaster Giving Program, Halliburton joins many companies whose donations go directly to the American Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund. The fund provides a reliable base for disaster relief services that enables the American Red Cross to always be there, responding immediately to the needs of disaster victims nationwide regardless of cost. With nearly 700 employees in Florida, Halliburton strongly supports the communities in which its employees live and work. The company’s community relations goal is to improve the quality of life in communities where we live and work by providing volunteer, financial and in-kind support to health, education, arts, environmental and civic organizations. Each year, Halliburton touches the lives of tens of thousands of children and adults in need. With more than 32,000 employees across the United States, Halliburton annually donates approximately $7.5 million including volunteer hours and in-kind donations, supporting more than 250 non-profit charities and organizations throughout the country. Additionally, a Halliburton division recently made an in-kind donation of $180 million in software to universities across the United States. Halliburton has more than 100,000 employees and operates in more than 120 countries. Halliburton, founded in 1919, is one of the world’s largest providers of products to the petroleum and energy industries. The company serves its customers with a broad range of products and services through its Energy Services Group and Engineering and Construction Group business segments. The company’s World Wide Web site can be accessed at www.halliburton.com. All American Red Cross disaster assistance is free, made possible by voluntary donations of time and money from the American people. You can help the victims of Tropical Storm Bonnie and Hurricane Charley and thousands of other disasters across the country each year by making a financial gift to the American Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund, which enables the Red Cross to provide shelter, food, counseling and other assistance to those in need. Call 1-800-HELP NOW or 1-800-257-7575 (Spanish). Contributions to the Disaster Relief Fund may be sent to your local American Red Cross chapter or to the American Red Cross, P.O. Box 37243, Washington, D.C. 20013. Internet users can make a secure online contribution by visiting www.redcross.org.
Not expensing US CEOs stock "options" is the main reason the FED, repug Treasuries and Wall Street engineer unemployment and that’s why the FED is always fighting "inflationary pressures". It is illegal in every country not to expense it! It’s the main reason for US accounting frauds, and the huge gap between worker and CEO compensation! It is an incentive to bump up stock prices beyond real market values and generates the incentives for "creative accounting".
Its a form of compensation for employees that generally does not impact the stock price and encourages long term retainment of employees and assures that employees have a vested interest and share in the success of the company. They are very popular with the employees of my company. My company gives them to all employees. They can be lucratrive, The often times are also WORTHLESS! whats a matter? you didnt get any?
"An internal Halliburton investigation" They found it themselves. "Vice President Dick Cheney was Halliburton’s chief executive at the time of the merger. Hall said there is no indication Cheney was aware" Cheney was not involved. Pretty weak dude. Its an 85 year old company with 100,000 employees. Your going to have things happen from time to time. Just like ANY company that old and large. http://www.southtexasrepublicans.com/mcgrody/halliburton_cleared.htm A little background The company, founded 85 years ago, has 103,000 employees on oil, gas and construction projects in 120 countries. "We are building a road in Ireland," Halliburton CEO David Lesar told ABCNEWS. "We are running a railroad in Australia. We are drilling for gas in the Rocky Mountains to bring more gas supplies to the U.S. We are drilling for oil in the Gulf of Mexico. We are building ships in Brazil. We are about 100,000 people doing things on a day-to-day basis." Halliburton built Camp Delta to house suspected terrorist at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, and it provides many other infrastructural services to the U.S. military
Many thanks to everyone for your feedback!!! 
I’m trying to finish a couple of new essays, so when I upload the new material that’ll be a good time to make other changes. I will post when the revisions are on-line. Very Best Wishes to All, Arthur
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@bob.news.rcn.net: I like blue in fact my whole condo has blue through said to raise bloodpressure and heartrate, green is a more calming color, may explain my manic hyperactive frenetic mind living here in my blue house… (sorry Vashti LOL)
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I don’t suppose there is any legal way around the 7.75% sales tax in Northern California when buying a plane. What if you bought a plane in Oregan and hangered it there for a month? What if you bought the plane under a LLC corporation and set up the corporation in Oregan???? Perhaps the best way around it is to buy an old run out plane pay less for the purchase (and taxes) and then spend a bunch on maintenance bring it up (since labor isn’t taxes in California)… Before you buy.
I don’t suppose there is any legal way around the 7.75% sales tax in Northern California when buying a plane. What if you bought a plane in Oregan and hangered it there for a month? What if you bought the plane under a LLC corporation and set up the corporation in Oregan???? Perhaps the best way around it is to buy an old run out plane pay less for the purchase (and taxes) and then spend a bunch on maintenance bring it up (since labor isn’t taxes in California)…
Funny you should ask. I just happened to receive a friendly letter on Friday from the California State Board of Equalization, a.k.a. the Sales Tax Collector. 1. The exact tax rate depends on the county where you live (or maybe it’s where you base the plane, if not in your home county). Where you are it may be 7.75%. In Santa Clara County it’s 8.25%. 2. If you bought the airplane in Oregon and hangared it there a month, you would lose a month of use of your airplane and then you would be due for Use Tax instead of Sales Tax, but it would still be the same tax rate. 3. OK, I am originally from Oregon, and proud of it. You’re going to have to start spelling it with two "O’s" if I’m going to help you here. If I meet you in person, I will also test you for proper pronunciation, but I digress…. Buying the plane as an Oregon corporation won’t save you from the California tax man because it’s all about where the plane is "used or stored," not who owns it or where it’s registered. They can find you through ramp checks, tie-down leases, and a bunch of other ways, and when they do you’ll get hit for penalties on top of the unpaid taxes. 4. Paying sales or use tax on an airplane really sucks because you can never recover that expense when you sell the airplane. Divide that by the number of hours you fly the plane and you’re really increasing the cost of flying it. If I fly my airplane until TBO, the sales/use tax would be worth $10/hr, and there weren’t a lot of hours on the engine when I bought it. What you need is an exemption. California offers five major exemptions from use tax: A. Common Carrier. Incorporate as a Part 135 Operator and buy the plane for your use in carriage of paying customers. Preferably interstate flights. B. Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Declare nothing and smuggle drugs for a living. Just kidding. C. Family Transaction. Have relatives in Oregon buy the plane and then they can sell it to you. E. Gift. Have relatives in Oregon buy the plane and then just give it to you. D. What happened to D? Oh yeah. "Not Purchased for Use in California." This is a good one. You should look at this one really closely. According to the State of California: If an aircraft is purchased outside of California, is first functionally used outside of California, and is used outside of California for over 90 days from the date of purchase to the date of first entry into California, it is regarded as not having been purchased for use in California. Shipping time or time of storage for shipment to California is excluded from the 90 days. When the property is purchased outside of California and is first functionally used outside of California then enters California within the first 90 days after purchase, it can still be regarded as not having been purchased for use in California if it is used or stored one-half or more of the time outside of California during the six-month period immediately following its entry into this state. So back to your original idea. What if you bought an airplane in Oregon and based it there for three or four months? What if you actually went to visit it frequently to keep the oil moving, and thereby rebutted any presumption that it was merely in "storage for shipment to California"? How much would that be worth to you?
If an airplane is based out of state for 90 days after its first operational use after purchase, then there’s no sales tax due. There’s another clause which allows the same if (I think) 60 of the first 180 days of operational use are out of state.
Just to be pedantic, it is 90 days from the date of purchase, or alternatively more than one-half of the the first six months from the date of first entry into California (180 days is not quite six months, and 60 days is not quite one-half of six months). The distinction is obviously small, but it could be a very expensive small mistake if you don’t count the days correctly.
I don’t suppose there is any legal way around the 7.75% sales tax in Northern California when buying a plane.
The California Revenue and Taxation Code (as well as the other California codes) is available on-line here: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html
I thought this airspace issue was settled several (25+??) years ago when KS (and other states) that did not allow liquor by the drink was attempting to force the airlines to NOT serve liquor that way when aircraft were in "KS" airspace. IIRC, it went to the Supreme Court and it was found the states did NOT own the airspace. But then again, my memory gets worse as I gets older. — John Stricker "I didn’t spend all these years getting to the top of the food chain just to be a vegetarian"
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You gotta love that kind of interpretation. As we know, California doesn’t HAVE any airspace. The airspace belongs to the Feds. The reach of California "should not" extend beyond the surface of a California runway. Nevertheless, I would also recommend not overflying California in a new, Oregon-based airplane. If you buy it in Oregon you need to keep it there for 90days and not fly into California airspace during that time. You will also need to show that you purchased the plane for use outside California. The Franchise Tax Board will try to collect the tax anyway and you will have to prove that you were in compliance with the exemption. There is a guy with a new Gulfstream who did this, and the Franchise Tax Board says that he overflew the northwest corner of California, during the 90 day period, on a trip from Oregon to Hawaii. There are attorneys who specialize in this kind of thing, and if you are buying an expensive plane you might want to contact one. I have a friend who just bought a Citation X and he is keeping it in Oregon for 90 days and will then move it to Idaho, which has no personal property tax. It is a pain in the ass but he is saving over a million dollars in taxes. Mike MU-2 I don’t suppose there is any legal way around the 7.75% sales tax in Northern California when buying a plane. What if you bought a plane in Oregan and hangered it there for a month? What if you bought the plane under a LLC corporation and set up the corporation in Oregan???? Perhaps the best way around it is to buy an old run out plane pay less for the purchase (and taxes) and then spend a bunch on maintenance bring it up (since labor isn’t taxes in California)… Before you buy.
[Standard disclaimer : I don't really know anything about anything]. In addition to the below, you would: A. Need to FLY it outside CA airspace (it says "stored or used") for over half the hobbs time in those six months.
Good thing about the disclaimer, because this is not true at all. The tax regulations don’t say anything at all about hobbs time. They say what I said they said: When the property is purchased outside of California and is first functionally used outside of California then enters California within the first 90 days after purchase, it can still be regarded as not having been purchased for use in California if it is used or stored one-half or more of the time outside of California during the six-month period immediately following its entry into this state. What I would add, that isn’t stated here but is clarified in the BOE Regulation 1620, is that the one-half of six months period is measured in days (not in hobbs hours). Finally, my previous post did point out the importance of flying the airplane (using it) outside of California in order to rebut the presumption that it is simply in storage for shipment. B. You would need to have very detailed and precise logs and ways of backing them up. One such way is to keep ALL receipts, and generate a receipt to match every single takeoff and landing during the six months period (for example, buy some gas both after you land and before you take off).
I don’t think it’s necessary to bury the tax collector in paper; just build a good strong case where all the numbers add up. Keeping a detailed flight log would be a good first step, accounting for all tach/hobbs time, points of departure and arrival, fuel burn, etc. This flight log can be correlated to maintenance records, pilot logs, and fuel receipts to confirm its accuracy and truthfulness. If you take some flight instruction in your presumably new airplane, that is good common sense as well as an alibi. It’s probably easier to prove that you never brought the plane into California within 90 days of purchase than it is to prove where the plane was located every single day during a six-month period following its first entry into California. You very well may need to defend your logs. Some may be "challanged" and you may loose some of those days and/or hours, so keeping an extra margin is probably a good idea. Think about it this way: if you don’t have a way to prove where the plane was on a certain date, assume that CA will consider it to have been in CA. If the plane just sits somewhere for two weeks, you would need some way of proving that it was really there (and that you didn’t fly it to CA and use it there between two receipts with the same dates). Some certificate or legal declaration from an FBO that is hangering the plane may be a way of proving that.
Right, that’s why I suggested maybe operating the plane in Oregon for "three or four months" instead of the prescribed 90 days. Or alternatively if you cannot prove where the plane WAS on a given day, you may still be able to prove with certainty where it was WAS NOT, namely California. You can do this with tach readings at confirmed points on confirmed dates, and prove that flying time simply would not allow the airplane to reach California in the intervening period. There is a company called "Associated Sales Tax Consultants" that helps with this paperwork. Pretty expensive, but much cheaper than 8.25% on many newer airplanes.
Flat rate of $5000, IIRC.
I agree, but it is an interesting example of how aggressive the FTB is… Mike MU-2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You gotta love that kind of interpretation. As we know, California doesn’t HAVE any airspace. The airspace belongs to the Feds. The reach of California "should not" extend beyond the surface of a California runway. Nevertheless, I would also recommend not overflying California in a new, Oregon-based airplane. If you buy it in Oregon you need to keep it there for 90days and not fly into California airspace during that time. You will also need to show that you purchased the plane for use outside California. The Franchise Tax Board will try to collect the tax anyway and you will have to prove that you were in compliance with the exemption. There is a guy with a new Gulfstream who did this, and the Franchise Tax Board says that he overflew the northwest corner of California, during the 90 day period, on a trip from Oregon to Hawaii. There are attorneys who specialize in this kind of thing, and if you are buying an expensive plane you might want to contact one. I have a friend who just bought a Citation X and he is keeping it in Oregon for 90 days and will then move it to Idaho, which has no personal property tax. It is a pain in the ass but he is saving over a million dollars in taxes. Mike MU-2 I don’t suppose there is any legal way around the 7.75% sales tax in Northern California when buying a plane. What if you bought a plane in Oregan and hangered it there for a month? What if you bought the plane under a LLC corporation and set up the corporation in Oregan???? Perhaps the best way around it is to buy an old run out plane pay less for the purchase (and taxes) and then spend a bunch on maintenance bring it up (since labor isn’t taxes in California)… Before you buy.
You gotta love that kind of interpretation. As we know, California doesn’t HAVE any airspace. The airspace belongs to the Feds. The reach of California "should not" extend beyond the surface of a California runway. Nevertheless, I would also recommend not overflying California in a new, Oregon-based airplane. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you buy it in Oregon you need to keep it there for 90days and not fly into California airspace during that time. You will also need to show that you purchased the plane for use outside California. The Franchise Tax Board will try to collect the tax anyway and you will have to prove that you were in compliance with the exemption. There is a guy with a new Gulfstream who did this, and the Franchise Tax Board says that he overflew the northwest corner of California, during the 90 day period, on a trip from Oregon to Hawaii. There are attorneys who specialize in this kind of thing, and if you are buying an expensive plane you might want to contact one. I have a friend who just bought a Citation X and he is keeping it in Oregon for 90 days and will then move it to Idaho, which has no personal property tax. It is a pain in the ass but he is saving over a million dollars in taxes. Mike MU-2 I don’t suppose there is any legal way around the 7.75% sales tax in Northern California when buying a plane. What if you bought a plane in Oregan and hangered it there for a month? What if you bought the plane under a LLC corporation and set up the corporation in Oregan???? Perhaps the best way around it is to buy an old run out plane pay less for the purchase (and taxes) and then spend a bunch on maintenance bring it up (since labor isn’t taxes in California)… Before you buy.
I don’t suppose there is any legal way around the 7.75% sales tax in Northern California when buying a plane. What if you bought a plane in Oregan and hangered it there for a month? Perhaps the best way around it is to buy an old run out plane pay less for the purchase (and taxes) and then spend a bunch on maintenance bring it up (since labor isn’t taxes in California)…
There are legal ways of avoiding the sales tax but they are not that simple. Taking into account that I’m not a tax lawyer and this advice is probably worth exactly what you paid for it: If an airplane is based out of state for 90 days after its first operational use after purchase, then there’s no sales tax due. There’s another clause which allows the same if (I think) 60 of the first 180 days of operational use are out of state. If you buy a plane cheaply and then modify it, if the plane is brought into state within 50 days then the modifications are assumed to be for use in state and tax is due. If you bring it in and then modify it then I assume the tax is only due on the initial price. There are businesses that charge lots of money for setting up deals whereby you can avoid the sales tax so there’s more to the nuances than this but this is the general idea. The tax folk up in Sacramento are very good about answering questions and they know what they are talking about unlike me . Guess who’s currently negotiating to buy an airplane … * The Ki Aikido Center * * (510) 796-6754 * * http://www.ki-aikido.com * * DHC-1 N68031 *
If you buy it in Oregon you need to keep it there for 90days and not fly into California airspace during that time. You will also need to show that you purchased the plane for use outside California. The Franchise Tax Board will try to collect the tax anyway and you will have to prove that you were in compliance with the exemption. There is a guy with a new Gulfstream who did this, and the Franchise Tax Board says that he overflew the northwest corner of California, during the 90 day period, on a trip from Oregon to Hawaii. There are attorneys who specialize in this kind of thing, and if you are buying an expensive plane you might want to contact one. I have a friend who just bought a Citation X and he is keeping it in Oregon for 90 days and will then move it to Idaho, which has no personal property tax. It is a pain in the ass but he is saving over a million dollars in taxes. Mike MU-2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t suppose there is any legal way around the 7.75% sales tax in Northern California when buying a plane. What if you bought a plane in Oregan and hangered it there for a month? What if you bought the plane under a LLC corporation and set up the corporation in Oregan???? Perhaps the best way around it is to buy an old run out plane pay less for the purchase (and taxes) and then spend a bunch on maintenance bring it up (since labor isn’t taxes in California)… Before you buy.
[Standard disclaimer : I don't really know anything about anything]. In addition to the below, you would: A. Need to FLY it outside CA airspace (it says "stored or used") for over half the hobbs time in those six months. B. You would need to have very detailed and precise logs and ways of backing them up. One such way is to keep ALL receipts, and generate a receipt to match every single takeoff and landing during the six months period (for example, buy some gas both after you land and before you take off). You very well may need to defend your logs. Some may be "challanged" and you may loose some of those days and/or hours, so keeping an extra margin is probably a good idea. Think about it this way: if you don’t have a way to prove where the plane was on a certain date, assume that CA will consider it to have been in CA. If the plane just sits somewhere for two weeks, you would need some way of proving that it was really there (and that you didn’t fly it to CA and use it there between two receipts with the same dates). Some certificate or legal declaration from an FBO that is hangering the plane may be a way of proving that. There is a company called "Associated Sales Tax Consultants" that helps with this paperwork. Pretty expensive, but much cheaper than 8.25% on many newer airplanes. — Gil.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t suppose there is any legal way around the 7.75% sales tax in Northern California when buying a plane. What if you bought a plane in Oregan and hangered it there for a month? What if you bought the plane under a LLC corporation and set up the corporation in Oregan???? Perhaps the best way around it is to buy an old run out plane pay less for the purchase (and taxes) and then spend a bunch on maintenance bring it up (since labor isn’t taxes in California)… Funny you should ask. I just happened to receive a friendly letter on Friday from the California State Board of Equalization, a.k.a. the Sales Tax Collector. 1. The exact tax rate depends on the county where you live (or maybe it’s where you base the plane, if not in your home county). Where you are it may be 7.75%. In Santa Clara County it’s 8.25%. 2. If you bought the airplane in Oregon and hangared it there a month, you would lose a month of use of your airplane and then you would be due for Use Tax instead of Sales Tax, but it would still be the same tax rate. 3. OK, I am originally from Oregon, and proud of it. You’re going to have to start spelling it with two "O’s" if I’m going to help you here. If I meet you in person, I will also test you for proper pronunciation, but I digress…. Buying the plane as an Oregon corporation won’t save you from the California tax man because it’s all about where the plane is "used or stored," not who owns it or where it’s registered. They can find you through ramp checks, tie-down leases, and a bunch of other ways, and when they do you’ll get hit for penalties on top of the unpaid taxes. 4. Paying sales or use tax on an airplane really sucks because you can never recover that expense when you sell the airplane. Divide that by the number of hours you fly the plane and you’re really increasing the cost of flying it. If I fly my airplane until TBO, the sales/use tax would be worth $10/hr, and there weren’t a lot of hours on the engine when I bought it. What you need is an exemption. California offers five major exemptions from use tax: A. Common Carrier. Incorporate as a Part 135 Operator and buy the plane for your use in carriage of paying customers. Preferably interstate flights. B. Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Declare nothing and smuggle drugs for a living. Just kidding. C. Family Transaction. Have relatives in Oregon buy the plane and then they can sell it to you. E. Gift. Have relatives in Oregon buy the plane and then just give it to you. D. What happened to D? Oh yeah. "Not Purchased for Use in California." This is a good one. You should look at this one really closely. According to the State of California: If an aircraft is purchased outside of California, is first functionally used outside of California, and is used outside of California for over 90 days from the date of purchase to the date of first entry into California, it is regarded as not having been purchased for use in California. Shipping time or time of storage for shipment to California is excluded from the 90 days. When the property is purchased outside of California and is first functionally used outside of California then enters California within the first 90 days after purchase, it can still be regarded as not having been purchased for use in California if it is used or stored one-half or more of the time outside of California during the six-month period immediately following its entry into this state. So back to your original idea. What if you bought an airplane in Oregon and based it there for three or four months? What if you actually went to visit it frequently to keep the oil moving, and thereby rebutted any presumption that it was merely in "storage for shipment to California"? How much would that be worth to you?
Hello again from Japan Thank you for everybody. I long for all of you while reading here.I am sorry that I was caught by ILOVEYOU before it was well-known in Japan. So, I lost all posted responce in my PC. So, I can not send it by e-mail. How about "A 100 CLUB" ? Now, I have about 1500 e-mail address of American. Sincerely, Hiroyuki Nishigaki Hiroyuki Nishigaki URL http://hometown.aol.com/hnishigaki/index.htm Spirit bless you !
No, Jane, it’s a film starring Nicholas Cage and Holly Hunter. Or am I mixing it up with Raising Pecker? Damn! my meds are affecting my brain! — Tara Ballance Montreal, Canada – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Constricting Anus? Isn’t that a punk band? Jane Hello I am a Japanese in Japan. I contributed here How to Good-bye Depression(constrict anus 100 times and dent navel to spine 100 times everyday) about 10 times. Our book has been published in August by iUniverse.com(http://www.iuniverse.com). About 120 contributors to my thoughts have shown up anonymously in the book(How to Good-bye Depression). Please, browse it at iUniverse.com-Marketplace-Bookstore-Search(title or author) if you are interested in. I have talked about it at 6 live radio talk shows in America. Sincerely. Hiroyuki Nishigaki Hiroyuki Nishigaki URL http://hometown.aol.com/hnishigaki/index.htm Spirit bless you !
Constricting Anus? Isn’t that a punk band? Jane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello I am a Japanese in Japan. I contributed here How to Good-bye Depression(constrict anus 100 times and dent navel to spine 100 times everyday) about 10 times. Our book has been published in August by iUniverse.com(http://www.iuniverse.com). About 120 contributors to my thoughts have shown up anonymously in the book(How to Good-bye Depression). Please, browse it at iUniverse.com-Marketplace-Bookstore-Search(title or author) if you are interested in. I have talked about it at 6 live radio talk shows in America. Sincerely. Hiroyuki Nishigaki Hiroyuki Nishigaki URL http://hometown.aol.com/hnishigaki/index.htm Spirit bless you !
I am a Japanese in Japan. I contributed here How to Good-bye Depression(constrict anus 100 times and dent navel to spine 100 times everyday) about 10 times. Our book has been published in August by iUniverse.com(http://www.iuniverse.com). About 120 contributors to my thoughts have shown up anonymously in the book(How to Good-bye Depression). Please, browse it at iUniverse.com-Marketplace-Bookstore-Search(title or author) if you are interested in. I have talked about it at 6 live radio talk shows in America.
Someone posted a while back that they heard you being interviewed on the radio in Los Angeles California. Very impressive. Nobody has ever asked to interview me on the radio. Perhaps if I could dent my navel…?? :-) Sincerely Stewart — The Metaphor Man *and* The Great Defender of the Self (remove the SPAMBLOCK) Please send me an e-mail copy of your posted response.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello I am a Japanese in Japan. I contributed here How to Good-bye Depression(constrict anus 100 times and dent navel to spine 100 times everyday) about 10 times. Our book has been published in August by iUniverse.com(http://www.iuniverse.com). About 120 contributors to my thoughts have shown up anonymously in the book(How to Good-bye Depression). Please, browse it at iUniverse.com-Marketplace-Bookstore-Search(title or author) if you are interested in. I have talked about it at 6 live radio talk shows in America. Sincerely. Hiroyuki Nishigaki Hiroyuki Nishigaki URL http://hometown.aol.com/hnishigaki/index.htm Spirit bless you !
You know, I really missed this guy. Dan — De profundis clamo ad te Domine
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello I am a Japanese in Japan. I contributed here How to Good-bye Depression(constrict anus 100 times and dent navel to spine 100 times everyday) about 10 times. Our book has been published in August by iUniverse.com(http://www.iuniverse.com). About 120 contributors to my thoughts have shown up anonymously in the book(How to Good-bye Depression). Please, browse it at iUniverse.com-Marketplace-Bookstore-Search(title or author) if you are interested in. I have talked about it at 6 live radio talk shows in America. Sincerely. Hiroyuki Nishigaki Hiroyuki Nishigaki URL http://hometown.aol.com/hnishigaki/index.htm Spirit bless you ! Welcome back! I constrict my anus and dent my navel as I write this.
Damn, I’d like to see that happening. Stan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aware1 — Toto… I don’t think we’re in Kansas anymore.
Hello I am a Japanese in Japan. I contributed here How to Good-bye Depression(constrict anus 100 times and dent navel to spine 100 times everyday) about 10 times. Our book has been published in August by iUniverse.com(http://www.iuniverse.com). About 120 contributors to my thoughts have shown up anonymously in the book(How to Good-bye Depression). Please, browse it at iUniverse.com-Marketplace-Bookstore-Search(title or author) if you are interested in. I have talked about it at 6 live radio talk shows in America. Sincerely. Hiroyuki Nishigaki Hiroyuki Nishigaki URL http://hometown.aol.com/hnishigaki/index.htm Spirit bless you !
Hello I think "Anyway, never mind about poor or bad or unsophisticated or inconsistent sentence." The world is wide and many various people live in it. Someone will mock you for such a sentence, but the others will like it in spite of such a sentence.There is no accounting for taste. Hiroyuki Nishigaki URL http://hometown.aol.com/hnishigaki/index.htm Spirit bless you !
Hello from Japan I recommend you will write a book because we seem to have a good editor(Dear Wombn) among us. We can write only about what we have experienced. We can not write even a fiction without our experience. So, we had better experience ups and down, failure and success, tears and joy, innocence and sly, sadness and pleasure, cowardiness and courage, heartlessness and love, and so on.Everything is the material or resource for future book. In addition, I think we can unburden our burden and feel relaxed if we can think so. The free newsletters of writersdigest.com (http://www.writersdigest.com) and of iUniverse.com are useful for studying writing. By the way, how getting along ? Constipated bear, Grease man , Juneau funny woman, Montreal woman and other contributors to How to Good-bye Depression ? Hiroyuki Nishigaki URL http://hometown.aol.com/hnishigaki/index.htm Spirit bless you !
I constrict my anus and dent my navel as I write this. You ordered the curry too?
It’s odd you should mention that, but we nearly had a takeaway last night. — The opinions given above may be mine. They might also just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello from Japan I recommend you will write a book because we seem to have a good editor(Dear Wombn) among us. We can write only about what we have experienced. We can not write even a fiction without our experience. So, we had better experience ups and down, failure and success, tears and joy, innocence and sly, sadness and pleasure, cowardiness and courage, heartlessness and love, and so on.Everything is the material or resource for future book. In addition, I think we can unburden our burden and feel relaxed if we can think so. The free newsletters of writersdigest.com (http://www.writersdigest.com) and of iUniverse.com are useful for studying writing. By the way, how getting along ? Constipated bear, Grease man , Juneau funny woman, Montreal woman and other contributors to How to Good-bye Depression ?
there are times when i’m so glad to be a part of this group. this being one of them. ed
Hello (2) from Japan I recommend you will visit the websites: http://www.editpros.com/resource.html http://www.iuniverse.com writersdigest.com or writerdigest.com if you want to write a book. 1001 Ways to Market Your Books(by John Kremer) is a very useful book to do publicity for your book. You have to begin to do publicity for your book at least 3-4 months earlier before the publishing date. So, you had better read this book once before you begin to write your book.I have not known writers have to do publicity in America before publishing date of book. iUniverse.com seldom seems to reject the manuscripts of writers, so it is a good company for the beginner of writing.Owing to iUniverse.com, I can have written 2 English books in poor English. Best-seller books are apt to be born among the books that most editors or publishing compapanies ignore or reject. Hiroyuki Nishigaki URL http://hometown.aol.com/hnishigaki/index.htm Spirit bless you !
Try www.sec.gov or get a license to practice as a certified public accountant from one of the states, territories, etc which make up the United States of America. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was told that there was such a certification to do audits of public companies. I don’t know if this is true or not. But if anyone knows what is involved to get SEC certified to do audits please let me know. Any info would be helpful. TIA Before you buy.
I was told that there was such a certification to do audits of public companies. I don’t know if this is true or not. But if anyone knows what is involved to get SEC certified to do audits please let me know. Any info would be helpful. TIA Before you buy.
I just took the most fantastic class on winery accounting and vineyard accounting. If anyone has any specific questions on handling predevelopment costs, inventory costing, depreciation. or cost center allocations, I’m the one to ask! Happy Turkey Day to all!
I just took the most fantastic class on winery accounting and vineyard accounting. If anyone has any specific questions on handling predevelopment costs, inventory costing, depreciation. or cost center allocations, I’m the one to ask! Happy Turkey Day to all!
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I just took the most fantastic class on winery accounting and vineyard accounting. If anyone has any specific questions on handling predevelopment costs, inventory costing, depreciation. or cost center allocations, I’m the one to ask! Happy Turkey Day to all!
Sounds like another one of the perks from being in the consulting business, getting to meet interesting clients and in this case maybe sample their product. You lucky dog. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just took the most fantastic class on winery accounting and vineyard accounting. If anyone has any specific questions on handling predevelopment costs, inventory costing, depreciation. or cost center allocations, I’m the one to ask! Happy Turkey Day to all!
Would anyone have any information about how to get started doing Medical Billing from your home. This seems to be getting more and more popular and it’s something I’m very interested in doing. I wouldn’t waste my time and/or money. Medical offices, as a rule, do NOT use billing services. A few do, mostly "retirement minded" docs that don’t want to make an investment in systems, etc. From the physician’s standpoint, it just makes no sense at all — paying an outside party to maintain THEIR records on the third party’s computer?
I agree. In addition, the key to such work is knowing what codes to use in billing for maximum legal reimbursement. You need lots of training in big medical offices to learn to do it right. Mike Block, Tax Fighting C.P.A., 954-566-7540, fax 7541 QuickBooks Prof. Advisor & Official QB 6 Top Tester biz.comp.accounting co-moderator for spam free news 275 E Oakland Park Blvd, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33334
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Would anyone have any information about how to get started doing Medical Billing from your home. This seems to be getting more and more popular and it’s something I’m very interested in doing. I actually do accounting from my home but haven’t been able to find any other accounts to take on. Medical Billing seems widespread and theres a demand for it, according to the ads in the paper, but they are for experienced people. I would be able to get the software from the College I attend for a fraction of the price that it cost over the phone. Two of the numbers I’ve called from ads in the paper wanted $299 for the software and technical support. This is the main reason I didn’t go with them and would like to do it on my own. I can get the software for $94.50 and also a tutorial book with disks for $54.50. Still less that $299. Any information would be appreciated such as who to contact, how to get started other than buying and learning the software, and how much to charge. Thanks, Sandi
Sandi, the "big boys" offer to do billing at 39 cents a pop. Hardly worth competing billing. Maybe someone over on sci.med.transcription would be able to direct you. Good luck, — Anna — ICQ 13940096 <<— http://home.att.net/~A.Sargent/
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Would anyone have any information about how to get started doing Medical Billing from your home. This seems to be getting more and more popular and it’s something I’m very interested in doing. I actually do accounting from my home but haven’t been able to find any other accounts to take on. Medical Billing seems widespread and theres a demand for it, according to the ads in the paper, but they are for experienced people. I would be able to get the software from the College I attend for a fraction of the price that it cost over the phone. Two of the numbers I’ve called from ads in the paper wanted $299 for the software and technical support. This is the main reason I didn’t go with them and would like to do it on my own. I can get the software for $94.50 and also a tutorial book with disks for $54.50. Still less that $299. Any information would be appreciated such as who to contact, how to get started other than buying and learning the software, and how much to charge. Thanks, Sandi
I wouldn’t waste my time and/or money. Medical offices, as a rule, do NOT use billing services. A few do, mostly "retirement minded" docs that don’t want to make an investment in systems, etc. From the physician’s standpoint, it just makes no sense at all — paying an outside party to maintain THEIR records on the third party’s computer? There really isn’t any cogent argument that can be made in favor of outside billing services, other than the one mentioned above. David Ray, CPA Frontier Medical Office Systems (you get the idea)….
Would anyone have any information about how to get started doing Medical Billing from your home. This seems to be getting more and more popular and it’s something I’m very interested in doing. I actually do accounting from my home but haven’t been able to find any other accounts to take on. Medical Billing seems widespread and theres a demand for it, according to the ads in the paper, but they are for experienced people. I would be able to get the software from the College I attend for a fraction of the price that it cost over the phone. Two of the numbers I’ve called from ads in the paper wanted $299 for the software and technical support. This is the main reason I didn’t go with them and would like to do it on my own. I can get the software for $94.50 and also a tutorial book with disks for $54.50. Still less that $299. Any information would be appreciated such as who to contact, how to get started other than buying and learning the software, and how much to charge. Thanks, Sandi
I WAS looking at working abroad for 1 year and would like to clarify some points. I understand that if working away from the UK for at least a tax year then you are excempt from UK TAX as a non resident. As long as you don’t return to the UK for more than 1/6th of your previous period abroad and the average home leave is not longer than 90 days then the above still applies. If working abroad for a period of 365 days with the 1/6th and 90 day rule again, you would be liable for UK tax,however would get a 100% Foreign Earnings Deduction. I also understand that the Foreign Earnings Deduction has been scrapped in the budget which has made my venture hardly worthwhile. Is there anyway around this to reduce my UK tax. A friend has suggested the following:- a) As I would be working in Foreign Country "C" and paid by Foreign Country "B" he has said pay it into an offshore bank account….Is this legal?? Or b) Get my employer in country "B" to pay all of my expenses and then pay the rest into my UK bank account. c) Get out there before April 6th so I would not be a resident. (Unlikely). You will have to excuse my ignorance in these matters.. — Dave
I WAS looking at working abroad for 1 year and would like to clarify some points. I understand that if working away from the UK for at least a tax year then you are excempt from UK TAX as a non resident. As long as you don’t return to the UK for more than 1/6th of your previous period abroad and the average home leave is not longer than 90 days then the above still applies. If working abroad for a period of 365 days with the 1/6th and 90 day rule again, you would be liable for UK tax,however would get a 100% Foreign Earnings Deduction. I also understand that the Foreign Earnings Deduction has been scrapped in the budget which has made my venture hardly worthwhile.
The Foreign Earnings Deduction applied for spells working abroad of more than 365 days but not a full tax year. This was tied up with the 1/6th test mentioned. The FED was abolished in last weeks budget, with immediate effect, expemtions still available for seafarers. If you work abroad for a complete tax year, i.e. 6/4/x0 to 5/4/x1, then you become non resident and your earnings for work outside of the UK will normally be free of UK tax from day 1. Note: 1. This is tied to the 90 day rule – return trips to the UK 90 days or less over a four year average. In theory you could go abroad for one day, return for 360 or so days and then bugger off for three years and a week, but this may be provocative…! 2. NI rules are a little different. In general you stay on UK NI for one year if its a UK employer and then transfer to the host countrys scheme. If its a non-UK employer then probably host scheme from day 1. If you are being posted abroad by a UK employer for more than a year but less than two then you may still be able to stay in the UK scheme. Special rules apply for some countrys, eg UK scheme applies for five years if you’re posted to the states. 3. Note the FED scheme left you UK resident. The non residence scheme (obviously) leaves you non uk resident. This has a bearing on investment income and gains from non UK situate assets. Is there anyway around this to reduce my UK tax. A friend has suggested the following:- a) As I would be working in Foreign Country "C" and paid by Foreign Country "B" he has said pay it into an offshore bank account….Is this legal??
legal yes, but totally ineffective for tax purposes, save that if you are non resident you can have the interest on the account free of UK tax. Or b) Get my employer in country "B" to pay all of my expenses and then pay the rest into my UK bank account.
again, non really relevant. c) Get out there before April 6th so I would not be a resident. (Unlikely).
as you can see from above, probably the best alternative. How about arranging to start your contract on (say) 1 April, spend a few days out of the UK, then back for a while to tidy up loose ends before leaving again – making sure the 90 day rule is observed. You will have to excuse my ignorance in these matters..
Non at all, they are very complicated! — Paul Garbett Garbetts Chartered Certified Accountants
Our small business, which is currently using AccPac, is in the process of researching the purchase of a new software package that will run under Windows NT. We do lots of order entry, inventory control and payroll stuff. I have seen Quickbooks mentioned in these newsgroups many times, but not so much Peachtree. Is there a reason for this? Any insights comparing the two products would be greatly appreciated! Dan Clark
Dan QuickBooks is very popular because it gives the user so much power. It is better than having the TV remote in one hand and the controller for an electric train in the other. Preachtree was developed when accounting was more staid and no ‘fun’ at all. Peachtree comes in six flavors and ranges from checkbook(General Ledger)to a $7,000 full system capable of everything for a ‘current’ mid sized business [10mm 200emp]. In specifics we tend to use QB everywhere we can and if QB is not ‘enough’ then we go to PT. There are many other programs out there but most of us see that having a program that so many people use is a great advantage. One case where I moved a client from QB to PTC involved a 20,000 item inventory (QB tops out at 15,000). Gary