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In your member profile you can opt out of the projects that you don’t approve of, otherwise you will get allocated work units from projects at random. How do I find my member profile? Mary

Go to www.grid.org. Click "Member Services" on the top bar enter your userid and password Click "My device manager" in the left sidebar Click "Profiles" (Under the heading "My device manager") Click on the profile in use – usually "default" At the bottom of this page are check boxes for project selection. You should also be able to get there from the "Modify Device Profile" link on the third page (preferences, ‘tick’ button) of the agent. Tim

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you would like to use the idle time on your PC to help research drugs to fight cancer, then you can sign up to grid.org (United Devices Inc.) at www.grid.org and click on the link "volunteer your pc". It’s a good idea to check to see what the software is working on every once in a while.  I had been running the anti-cancer software for quite a while when I noticed they had switched to a cure for smallpox.  I removed it from my computer.  Now that they’re back to cancer, I’m joining again. – Tony They have a project list – they did anthrax when that was a scare for example.  In your member profile you can opt out of the projects that you don’t approve of, otherwise you will get allocated work units from projects at random.

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Join the ‘GRID TEAM’ below and help fight cancer. York Accounting Services. Accpac Simply Accounting Attach

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Ask the IRS.  What they decide is what counts.  Get it in writing. See the IRS rules for a second home to get the basics. LZ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone used their RV as a second home for tax purposes? If a person also has a small business, and that person visits similar business during his travels around the US (scoping out the competition), would travel expenses then be tax deductable? Also, if a person has a truck and trailer, can that be set up as a second home for tax purposes like the RV? Thanks in advance for any information.

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Has anyone used their RV as a second home for tax purposes? If a person also has a small business, and that person visits similar business during his travels around the US (scoping out the competition), would travel expenses then be tax deductable? Also, if a person has a truck and trailer, can that be set up as a second home for tax purposes like the RV? Thanks in advance for any information.

The trailer can, not the truck. Interest on the purchase is deductible. Travel expenses are probably partially deductible – I wouldn’t do it without consulting an accountant. — Al Balmer Balmer Consulting

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<< Ask the IRS.  What they decide is what counts.  Get it in writing. Good suggestion but ….. the clerks will seldom put it in writing.   To be even a average tax accountant requires going to classes every year to learn the new rules and rulings. Tom M, CPA but ain’t no tax accountant since ‘72

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Yes to both questions BUY keep good records to justify business expense

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An RV trailer can also qualify as a second home if the IRS requirements for length of occupancy, completeness of facilities, etc. are met.   Check with your accountant for this year’s requirements or dig them out of the IRS pubs.  If you qualify you can deduct the "mortgage" interest, and possibly some taxes, repairs, etc. just like any second home. In our case, the truck used for towing is also our business vehicle, being used more than 50% for a sole proprietorship.  Legitimate business travel expenses (as defined by the IRS, not by us) are deductible, whether or not the trailer comes along for the ride.  Again, read the pubs. I suspect any decent accountant will discourage attempts to claim all or part of an RV as a mobile office.  It’s really hard to meet the regular and exclusive use tests in an RV.  Again, check with an expert. Jenny

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Has anyone used their RV as a second home for tax purposes? ..

Yes, I have. Use TurboTax. It will ask you all the right questions. One loan, one second home. You can’t write off a tow truck loan. At least that is my take.

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Has anyone used their RV as a second home for tax purposes? If a person also has a small business, and that person visits similar business during his travels around the US (scoping out the competition), would travel expenses then be tax deductable? Also, if a person has a truck and trailer, can that be set up as a second home for tax purposes like the RV? Thanks in advance for any information.

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Has anyone used their RV as a second home for tax purposes? If a person also has a small business, and that person visits similar business during his travels around the US (scoping out the competition), would travel expenses then be tax deductable? Also, if a person has a truck and trailer, can that be set up as a second home for tax purposes like the RV? Thanks in advance for any information.

In the US there is a whole profession dedicated to giving advise on income tax issues. These folks are called "Accountants". Ask the above question to one of them to get an accurate answer regarding your situation. In my case I deduct the interest paid on the MH. I deduct a portion of the travel costs when I use it for business based on the advice from my accountant. — http://www.bobhatch.com Our web site about RV Stuff A work in progress

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We deduct the interests paid as a second home per our tax accountant. Yuppers, you can do that if you occupy it at least 14 days per year. We certainly passed that a long time back. Our Class A made the difference between taking the Standard Deduction and Itemizing. That’s because our house is paid for and we didn’t have enough other deductions to hit the limit. Michael

So that means I could potentially deduct the interest on the loan for my travel trailer because I occupy it 7 weekends/year?  Wow, I need to check into this a bit more.  Would this apply to just occuping it on weekends at nearby state parks, or is does it require 14 consecutive days? What about the kids sleeping in it in the driveway?  OK, that’s pushing it a bit….

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe my brother will get off his ass and get online so I can e-mail Sounds like it’s time for him to come out of the cave, eh?  I hope this doesn’t mean that AS3 won’t see anymore of you!!  The jokes are still here when I have time to post them…so maybe we’ll see your brother in here one of these days. Anyways, thanks for all the jokes, Sally! You get a free whiff of the bat-spray…..lol You’re welcome, sweetcheeks….aaaaaaawwwwwwwww….. I feel honored and will cherish that whiff forever… <g Sally

I won’t be offline for more than a week. My moving budget is as complete as I can make it and after accounting for all possible expenses, I still have a leftover amount of savings of $887.41 to cover any unseen expenses. I own my own cable modem so getting back online will be quick and easy. As to my brother, he says he wants to quit but his wife dosen’t. In his (probably right) opinion, quitting would be too hard with a smoker right next to him….. Anyways, he can’t even save up enough $$ to get online – that’s *his* story – I call it BS because you can get a 56k modem now for next to nothing but oh, well – his loss…. OOFBatman 6 years, 8 months, 4 weeks, 1 day, 21 hrs, 59 min & 35 sec. 61572 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,314.58. Life saved: 30 weeks, 3 days, 19 hours, 0 minutes.

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I was repeating one of your jokes to my brother and he commented on how he’s going to miss "my" jokes. You see, I finally gave up on my long battle to get my ex to bring the kids from Denver to Wichita for visitation. Hell, I offered to pay for the van rental, gas, food, lodging, even lost wages! No soap. So, I give up – next month I’m moving to Denver so I can be closer to my boys. Maybe my brother will get off his ass and get online so I can e-mail Anyways, thanks for all the jokes, Sally! You get a free whiff of the bat-spray…..lol OOFBatman 6 years, 8 months, 3 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 38 min & 54 sec. 61522 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,304.51. Life saved: 30 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes.

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i hope you will stay with us batman! have a wonderful trip and hook up soon! — read and post daily, it works! rosie the control center of your life is your attitude. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was repeating one of your jokes to my brother and he commented on how he’s going to miss "my" jokes. You see, I finally gave up on my long battle to get my ex to bring the kids from Denver to Wichita for visitation. Hell, I offered to pay for the van rental, gas, food, lodging, even lost wages! No soap. So, I give up – next month I’m moving to Denver so I can be closer to my boys. Maybe my brother will get off his ass and get online so I can e-mail Anyways, thanks for all the jokes, Sally! You get a free whiff of the bat-spray…..lol OOFBatman 6 years, 8 months, 3 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 38 min & 54 sec. 61522 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,304.51. Life saved: 30 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes.

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Wow, Bat, that sounds like a great move, you must be missing your boys like crazy.  Good luck, I hope the moving bizzo is not too stressful for you. Cheers Sue, who has moved house four times in eight months – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was repeating one of your jokes to my brother and he commented on how he’s going to miss "my" jokes. You see, I finally gave up on my long battle to get my ex to bring the kids from Denver to Wichita for visitation. Hell, I offered to pay for the van rental, gas, food, lodging, even lost wages! No soap. So, I give up – next month I’m moving to Denver so I can be closer to my boys. Maybe my brother will get off his ass and get online so I can e-mail Anyways, thanks for all the jokes, Sally! You get a free whiff of the bat-spray…..lol OOFBatman 6 years, 8 months, 3 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 38 min & 54 sec. 61522 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,304.51. Life saved: 30 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes.

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I was repeating one of your jokes to my brother and he commented on how he’s going to miss "my" jokes. You see, I finally gave up on my long battle to get my ex to bring the kids from Denver to Wichita for visitation. Hell, I offered to pay for the van rental, gas, food, lodging, even lost wages! No soap. So, I give up – next month I’m moving to Denver so I can be closer to my boys.

You’re a good Dad, Ken….enjoy those kids…. Maybe my brother will get off his ass and get online so I can e-mail

Sounds like it’s time for him to come out of the cave, eh?  I hope this doesn’t mean that AS3 won’t see anymore of you!!  The jokes are still here when I have time to post them…so maybe we’ll see your brother in here one of these days. Anyways, thanks for all the jokes, Sally! You get a free whiff of the bat-spray…..lol

You’re welcome, sweetcheeks….aaaaaaawwwwwwwww….. I feel honored and will cherish that whiff forever… <g Sally – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OOFBatman 6 years, 8 months, 3 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 38 min & 54 sec. 61522 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,304.51. Life saved: 30 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes.

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I was repeating one of your jokes to my brother and he commented on how he’s going to miss "my" jokes. You see, I finally gave up on my long battle to get my ex to bring the kids from Denver to Wichita for visitation. Hell, I offered to pay for the van rental, gas, food, lodging, even lost wages! No soap. So, I give up – next month I’m moving to Denver so I can be closer to my boys. Maybe my brother will get off his ass and get online so I can e-mail Anyways, thanks for all the jokes, Sally! You get a free whiff of the bat-spray…..lol OOFBatman 6 years, 8 months, 3 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 38 min & 54 sec. 61522 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,304.51. Life saved: 30 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes.

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i hope you will stay with us batman! have a wonderful trip and hook up soon! — read and post daily, it works! rosie the control center of your life is your attitude. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was repeating one of your jokes to my brother and he commented on how he’s going to miss "my" jokes. You see, I finally gave up on my long battle to get my ex to bring the kids from Denver to Wichita for visitation. Hell, I offered to pay for the van rental, gas, food, lodging, even lost wages! No soap. So, I give up – next month I’m moving to Denver so I can be closer to my boys. Maybe my brother will get off his ass and get online so I can e-mail Anyways, thanks for all the jokes, Sally! You get a free whiff of the bat-spray…..lol OOFBatman 6 years, 8 months, 3 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 38 min & 54 sec. 61522 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,304.51. Life saved: 30 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes.

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Wow, Bat, that sounds like a great move, you must be missing your boys like crazy.  Good luck, I hope the moving bizzo is not too stressful for you. Cheers Sue, who has moved house four times in eight months – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was repeating one of your jokes to my brother and he commented on how he’s going to miss "my" jokes. You see, I finally gave up on my long battle to get my ex to bring the kids from Denver to Wichita for visitation. Hell, I offered to pay for the van rental, gas, food, lodging, even lost wages! No soap. So, I give up – next month I’m moving to Denver so I can be closer to my boys. Maybe my brother will get off his ass and get online so I can e-mail Anyways, thanks for all the jokes, Sally! You get a free whiff of the bat-spray…..lol OOFBatman 6 years, 8 months, 3 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 38 min & 54 sec. 61522 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,304.51. Life saved: 30 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes.

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I was repeating one of your jokes to my brother and he commented on how he’s going to miss "my" jokes. You see, I finally gave up on my long battle to get my ex to bring the kids from Denver to Wichita for visitation. Hell, I offered to pay for the van rental, gas, food, lodging, even lost wages! No soap. So, I give up – next month I’m moving to Denver so I can be closer to my boys.

You’re a good Dad, Ken….enjoy those kids…. Maybe my brother will get off his ass and get online so I can e-mail

Sounds like it’s time for him to come out of the cave, eh?  I hope this doesn’t mean that AS3 won’t see anymore of you!!  The jokes are still here when I have time to post them…so maybe we’ll see your brother in here one of these days. Anyways, thanks for all the jokes, Sally! You get a free whiff of the bat-spray…..lol

You’re welcome, sweetcheeks….aaaaaaawwwwwwwww….. I feel honored and will cherish that whiff forever… <g Sally – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OOFBatman 6 years, 8 months, 3 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 38 min & 54 sec. 61522 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,304.51. Life saved: 30 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe my brother will get off his ass and get online so I can e-mail Sounds like it’s time for him to come out of the cave, eh?  I hope this doesn’t mean that AS3 won’t see anymore of you!!  The jokes are still here when I have time to post them…so maybe we’ll see your brother in here one of these days. Anyways, thanks for all the jokes, Sally! You get a free whiff of the bat-spray…..lol You’re welcome, sweetcheeks….aaaaaaawwwwwwwww….. I feel honored and will cherish that whiff forever… <g Sally

I won’t be offline for more than a week. My moving budget is as complete as I can make it and after accounting for all possible expenses, I still have a leftover amount of savings of $887.41 to cover any unseen expenses. I own my own cable modem so getting back online will be quick and easy. As to my brother, he says he wants to quit but his wife dosen’t. In his (probably right) opinion, quitting would be too hard with a smoker right next to him….. Anyways, he can’t even save up enough $$ to get online – that’s *his* story – I call it BS because you can get a 56k modem now for next to nothing but oh, well – his loss…. OOFBatman 6 years, 8 months, 4 weeks, 1 day, 21 hrs, 59 min & 35 sec. 61572 cigarettes not smoked, saving $12,314.58. Life saved: 30 weeks, 3 days, 19 hours, 0 minutes.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These jobs are by invitation only. Which all to ofter is part of the problem (directors hand picked by the management they direct). Aren’t directors elected by shareholders, even if they are proposed by management? I think this problem, as most other corporate governance problems, can only be resolved by shareholders taking a more active role. I agree. Is that in fact currently possible?

Yes, and it happens. I can’t believe you haven’t noticed shareholder "revolts" over the years.  I laugh at those press ninnies who call them "revolts" rather than recognizing the shareholders exercising their rights. — *             Ronald Lee Todd M.B.A., C.P.A.                  * *  Unemployed for six years, mistake of being an accountant.  * *   Students, when someone tells you of your great future as  * *       an accountant, ask him to show you the job.           *

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These jobs are by invitation only. Which all to ofter is part of the problem (directors hand picked by the management they direct). Aren’t directors elected by shareholders, even if they are proposed by management? I think this problem, as most other corporate governance problems, can only be resolved by shareholders taking a more active role. And what happens when, as is Switzerland, nearly all shareholders have their stock in bank depots and automatically cede their voting rights to the banks? Then it’s their own fault and they don’t need to complain later if they don’t like the outcome. But I agree, that the custom in continental Europe, where banks control significant blocks of votes (their own and/or of small shareholders), is problematic. On the other hand it has also advantages as such shareholder blocks are in a much better position to actually make a difference.

To date have not seen one single case of banks using their voting powers in the interests of shareholders opposed to top management. Can you cite such an instance? What if organised racketeers not only directly paid the salaries of the police but hand-picked the policemen supposed to investigate the same racketeers? Such is the situation in so-called corporate governance today. Yours truly has personally witnessed more than one instance of "audit committees composed of external, independent directors" never meeting except on paper, non-existent except on paper and perfectly acceptable to NASDAQ. Paper is willing and patient. What is the sampling rate of controls of such "audit committees" and who are (supposed to be) the watchdogs? Your perception of the world is way too bleak. If one listens to you, one could think that every CEO on this planet is a crook and all they do all day long is to figure out ways to defraud shareholders. Think positive!

You’re fighting imaginary windmills again, Harry. I’m not saying all the sheep are black, just currently far too many and a lot of big ones. But, as we have seen before here (e. g. during the demise of Andersen), different people have different experiences. If nearly all of the people you have closely known and/or observed in top management functions have provided good examples of correct ethical behaviour, so much the better. A. Lucien Meyers, CIA, CMA — If you receive this by error, please delete it and inform the sender. PGP key fingerprint=F1C0 D9AE 1B18 1405 4DFA  B4CC 6DC7 FF78 C76E FB15 To Big Brother Echelon from "spook": Albanian BND heroine Iraq Afghanistan Marxist Khatami Iran Somalia Sudan

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These jobs are by invitation only. Which all to ofter is part of the problem (directors hand picked by the management they direct). Aren’t directors elected by shareholders, even if they are proposed by management? I think this problem, as most other corporate governance problems, can only be resolved by shareholders taking a more active role. And what happens when, as is Switzerland, nearly all shareholders have their stock in bank depots and automatically cede their voting rights to the banks?

If they sign their proxy to the bank, and the bank ruins them, then it is there fault. What if organised racketeers not only directly paid the salaries of the police but hand-picked the policemen supposed to investigate the same racketeers? Such is the situation in so-called corporate governance today.

I think that analogy is really stretching it.  Although, from my standpoint, I could see how it could be, at a very distant level, applicable to the purpose of the U.N. and the E.U.  But you will be closer to that than I will. Yours truly has personally witnessed more than one instance of "audit committees composed of external, independent directors" never meeting except on paper, non-existent except on paper and perfectly acceptable to NASDAQ. Paper is willing and patient.

It is hard to get good people. What else is new. What is the sampling rate of controls of such "audit committees" and who are (supposed to be) the watchdogs?

I thought someone had done a study on that.  Or maybe, studies.  Do you have access to a University library?  You might be able to find them. — *             Ronald Lee Todd M.B.A., C.P.A.                  * *  Unemployed for six years, mistake of being an accountant.  * *   Students, when someone tells you of your great future as  * *       an accountant, ask him to show you the job.           *

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aren’t directors elected by shareholders, even if they are proposed by management? I think this problem, as most other corporate governance problems, can only be resolved by shareholders taking a more active role. I agree. Is that in fact currently possible? Yes, and it happens. I can’t believe you haven’t noticed shareholder "revolts" over the years.  I laugh at those press ninnies who call them "revolts" rather than recognizing the shareholders exercising their rights.

Of course I have noticed.  I have also noticed, as you note here, that it so rare it is considered a "revolt". Direct ownership of shares by people who cannot, do not or will not exercise their ownership responsibilities often results in irresponsible control by paid managers.   Having said that, I will also say that I do not know of an easy fix.  A person with a few shares of this and a few shares of that is not going to have much time to devote to any of them. — Jim Hudspeth, CFE, CPA   http://survivalworks.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aren’t directors elected by shareholders, even if they are proposed by management? I think this problem, as most other corporate governance problems, can only be resolved by shareholders taking a more active role. I agree. Is that in fact currently possible? Yes, and it happens. I can’t believe you haven’t noticed shareholder "revolts" over the years.  I laugh at those press ninnies who call them "revolts" rather than recognizing the shareholders exercising their rights. Of course I have noticed.  I have also noticed, as you note here, that it so rare it is considered a "revolt". Direct ownership of shares by people who cannot, do not or will not exercise their ownership responsibilities often results in irresponsible control by paid managers. Having said that, I will also say that I do not know of an easy fix.  A person with a few shares of this and a few shares of that is not going to have much time to devote to any of them.

Having just attended my first ever public company (UK) AGM, the lack of power of the concerned small shareholder has been vividly brought home to me. Shareholders duly cast their votes, quite a few voting against a particularly controversial resolution, but as the votes cast by those not present flashed up on the video screen, the pointlessness of this exercise became clear – 100 votes in the meeting against 4m cast by institutional investors was hardly worth the effort. — Laura (emulate St. George for email)

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I have a question.  After reading much lately about Pres. Bush having been a director of Harken, and Cheney having been a CEO and director in the past, it got me wondering…How do you get a job as a director?  I would like to be on a Board of Directors for a large corporation, but I never see this kind of job advertised.  Any ideas. For reference, I have an Accounting degree, I have passed the CPA exam, but haven’t completed the paperwork yet to get my certificate, I spent one year in public accounting, and have three years experience as a Corporate Accountant for a $150 million company.

You need friends in very powerful places. ("I’ve got friends in lowww places……") John

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These jobs are by invitation only.  

Which all to ofter is part of the problem (directors hand picked by the management they direct). — Jim Hudspeth, CFE, CPA   http://survivalworks.com

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These jobs are by invitation only. Which all to ofter is part of the problem (directors hand picked by the management they direct). Aren’t directors elected by shareholders, even if they are proposed by management? I think this problem, as most other corporate governance problems, can only be resolved by shareholders taking a more active role.

And what happens when, as is Switzerland, nearly all shareholders have their stock in bank depots and automatically cede their voting rights to the banks? What if organised racketeers not only directly paid the salaries of the police but hand-picked the policemen supposed to investigate the same racketeers? Such is the situation in so-called corporate governance today. Yours truly has personally witnessed more than one instance of "audit committees composed of external, independent directors" never meeting except on paper, non-existent except on paper and perfectly acceptable to NASDAQ. Paper is willing and patient. What is the sampling rate of controls of such "audit committees" and who are (supposed to be) the watchdogs? A. Lucien Meyers, CIA, CMA — If you receive this by error, please delete it and inform the sender. PGP key fingerprint=F1C0 D9AE 1B18 1405 4DFA  B4CC 6DC7 FF78 C76E FB15 To Big Brother Echelon from "spook": spy nuclear Qaddafi Peshawar BND Ortega quiche plutonium heroine FBI Uzi

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These jobs are by invitation only. Which all to ofter is part of the problem (directors hand picked by the management they direct). Aren’t directors elected by shareholders, even if they are proposed by management? I think this problem, as most other corporate governance problems, can only be resolved by shareholders taking a more active role.

I agree. Is that in fact currently possible? — Jim Hudspeth, CFE, CPA   http://survivalworks.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These jobs are by invitation only. Which all to ofter is part of the problem (directors hand picked by the management they direct). Aren’t directors elected by shareholders, even if they are proposed by management? I think this problem, as most other corporate governance problems, can only be resolved by shareholders taking a more active role.

Congratulations.  You are the only one who got it right.   Except for closely held companies with "inside" boards, it is the shareholders who can nominate and vote the board.  Historically, the only shareholders who have exercised this right have been the pension funds and significant holders, like Warren Buffet for example. — *             Ronald Lee Todd M.B.A., C.P.A.                  * *  Unemployed for six years, mistake of being an accountant.  * *   Students, when someone tells you of your great future as  * *       an accountant, ask him to show you the job.           *

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These jobs are by invitation only.  You don’t apply for them.  Unless you own a bunch of stock. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a question.  After reading much lately about Pres. Bush having been a director of Harken, and Cheney having been a CEO and director in the past, it got me wondering…How do you get a job as a director?  I would like to be on a Board of Directors for a large corporation, but I never see this kind of job advertised.  Any ideas. For reference, I have an Accounting degree, I have passed the CPA exam, but haven’t completed the paperwork yet to get my certificate, I spent one year in public accounting, and have three years experience as a Corporate Accountant for a $150 million company.

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I have a question.  After reading much lately about Pres. Bush having been a director of Harken, and Cheney having been a CEO and director in the past, it got me wondering…How do you get a job as a director?  I would like to be on a Board of Directors for a large corporation, but I never see this kind of job advertised.  Any ideas. For reference, I have an Accounting degree, I have passed the CPA exam, but haven’t completed the paperwork yet to get my certificate, I spent one year in public accounting, and have three years experience as a Corporate Accountant for a $150 million company.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The old standard: Schaum’s Ouline of Accounting (several, pick the course level coverage you need). Hi, I not looking answers on homework or anything like that. It’s just that the text book we use in class is pretty confusing, I was wondering if anyone can recommend any good video or computer based training courses that I could use along with the course to help me. We gotten up to things like reversing entries, accrual basis, and deferred accounts, depreciation and a lot of it is just so confusing. If you have any suggestions or websites that can help me along, please let me know. =) d

Thanks, I did pick that book up for accounting I, though i am curious if a videotape or computer based learning program exists that shows it as well. The book seems fine, I’m just curious about that though. thanks d

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Hi, I not looking answers on homework or anything like that. It’s just that the text book we use in class is pretty confusing, I was wondering if anyone can recommend any good video or computer based training courses that I could use along with the course to help me. We gotten up to things like reversing entries, accrual basis, and deferred accounts, depreciation and a lot of it is just so confusing. If you have any suggestions or websites that can help me along, please let me know. =) d

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The old standard: Schaum’s Ouline of Accounting (several, pick the course level coverage you need). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I not looking answers on homework or anything like that. It’s just that the text book we use in class is pretty confusing, I was wondering if anyone can recommend any good video or computer based training courses that I could use along with the course to help me. We gotten up to things like reversing entries, accrual basis, and deferred accounts, depreciation and a lot of it is just so confusing. If you have any suggestions or websites that can help me along, please let me know. =) d

– *             Ronald Lee Todd M.B.A., C.P.A.                  * *  Unemployed for five years, mistake of being an accountant. * *    From the Socialist People’s Republic of Kalifornia,      * *           the Seventh worst state for business,             * *                   Ayn Rand was right                        *

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So you’re replying to me again. Your wife must have stolen some narcotics from the disturbed individuals she empties bedpans for in order to restore some sense of family equilibrium around your place. Isolationism is stupid. Almost as stupid as signing on to something because "everybody else is doing Exactly! While there is probably a fairly universal consensus that there is some global warming in effect, we cannot, with any certainty, determine whether this is or is not part of the normal climatical cycle that this planet has gone through since its inception (And we’ve only had the technology to monitor this for about a half century now). Furthermore, we cannot differentiate the contributions of "greenhouse gasses" which are the direct result of human activity, from that of natural occurances, such as volcanic eruption (like what is currently happening at Mt. Etna). Without a more solid foundation of data, it would be impossible to predict what changes would be necessary, or whether extremist measures would even have a noticable effect. Dismissing alarmist positions, that could be potentially devastating to the economies  and lifestyles of many of the worlds citizens, as "needing further study" is hardly being "isolationist". We’re simply taking a more prudent and cautious approach to the whole situation. Dave Nice spew of the Republican party line b.s., almost word for word. The reality is, there’s nothing behind it except the desire to pay off corporate campaign contributors,

Oh really? There was nothing "party line" at all about what I posted. These were all my own thoughts based on logic, instead of alarmism. Can you tell me for certain exactly what effect the human race has had on the increases of green house gasses that are generally believed to be the root cause of "global warming"? Do you know what the level of greenhouse gasses were 1000 years ago? 10,000? 100,000? What caused the Ice age? What ended it? It is clear to me and anyone with the ability to THINK, that there are more factors at work on this planet than the emissions of fossil fuel. Before you dismiss the cautious approach as "republicrap", do yourself a favor and think a little. the same as there is nothing behind Bush’s version of a patient bill of rights except for mushy legislation that shields bad acting insurance companies,

It would be nice to have the full patient’s Bill of rights. Afterall, who wouldn’t want to have carte blance control over their medical coverage, including the right to sue if they suffer a hangnail at the hands of their doctor? What you have to realize is that there is no free lunch. These proposals, while certainly beneficial to the average Joe, open the door to abuses, and the almost certain cost of legal representation and will drive the costs to the insurance companies through the roof. These escalating costs will eventually be passed on to the consumer in the form of higher medical insurance premiums. This would almost certainly result in even fewer people with the ability to afford decent healthcare coverage. Is that what you want? If you can find a way to give the citizen absolute control over their medical coverage, without increasing the cost of it, I’d like to see it. But as usual, you can only see one side of it. and nothing behind Bush’s Social Security reform other than a desire to pay off Wall Street.

You are really starting to sound like a cynical conspiracy theorist. In case you’ve been too busy to watch the trends, you should know that in the next 10 years the burden on social security will expand tremendously. With more being taken out than being put in, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to conclude that the fund will run dry at some point. Whether that happens in 2018, 2032, or 2040, is irrelevant. What needs to be done NOW is to find a way to make sure that Social Security remains stable. The only way to do that is increase the amount going in. You can increase the SS tax, or maybe invest it in something that will earn interest. Or…… Maybe we just get the government out of the business of taking care of people. Afterall, it is the responsibility of each and every one of us to provide for our own retirement. Dave

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Harry’s a socialist.  Thus, he thinks that what’s yours belongs to him. This leads a lot of people into crime.

Harry’s not a socialist, he’s a wife. The wives creed:     What’s mine is mine.     What’s yours is mine. Bert Robbins

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Harry’s a socialist.  Thus, he thinks that what’s yours belongs to him. This leads a lot of people into crime.

Huh???  I really doubt that.  What would he do with a vast assortment of musical instruments, a set of golf clubs, an old beat ‘87 Ford Ranger 4×4, and an even older 1975 Sea Star 17′ trihull I/O? My PC?  Yeah, he’d probably want that once I’m done customizing it….  I always say:  the best home PC is the one that you build yourself. Butch Ammon My web page: http://members.aol.com/ammonc/butch.html

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Harry’s a socialist.  Thus, he thinks that what’s yours belongs to him. This leads a lot of people into crime. Harry’s not a socialist, he’s a wife. The wives creed:     What’s mine is mine.     What’s yours is mine. Bert Robbins

Doubt there’s anything you have that would interest me, Bert, though your pea-brain would look good in a pickle jar up on the shelf… — Harry Krause Let’s play horse I’ll be the front, you just be yourself

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Exactly! While there is probably a fairly universal consensus that there is some global warming in effect, we cannot, with any certainty, determine whether this is or is not part of the normal climatical cycle that this planet has gone through since its inception (And we’ve only had the technology to monitor this for about a half century now). Furthermore, we cannot differentiate the contributions of "greenhouse gasses" which are the direct result of human activity, from that of natural occurances, such as volcanic eruption (like what is currently happening at Mt. Etna). Without a more solid foundation of data, it would be impossible to predict what changes would be necessary, or whether extremist measures would even have a noticable effect. Dismissing alarmist positions, that could be potentially devastating to the economies  and lifestyles of many of the worlds citizens, as "needing further study" is hardly being "isolationist". We’re simply taking a more prudent and cautious approach to the whole situation. Dave Nice spew of the Republican party line b.s., almost word for word. The reality is, there’s nothing behind it except the desire to pay off corporate campaign contributors, the same as there is nothing behind Bush’s version of a patient bill of rights except for mushy legislation that shields bad acting insurance companies, and nothing behind Bush’s Social Security reform other than a desire to pay off Wall Street. It’s Republicrap…all of it.

Let’s see about 25 years ago we were accelerating, logarithmically, into an ice age. This was predicated on the fact that we were experiencing cooler than normal temperatures. Now 25 years later, geologically not even a measurable amount of time, we are again accelerating into burning up the planet. It is amazing that the human population can do this much damage in this amount of time to reverse the next coming of an ice age and turn the entire planet into a desert. Were we misled 25 years ago? Did we have enough data to say we were going into an ice age? Who were the people that we promoting the ice age? Are they the same people that are talking about global warming now? Should we believe them? Can we believe them? If Harry would just open his mind to the possibility that his liberal socialist masters are wrong he might be able to use his, self described, brain power to actually analyze the data and come to his own conclusion about quit a number of things. Why do we teach our children to do things for themselves and think for themselves? With the hope and desire for them to be able to actually do for themselves and think for themselves and not be dependent upon us, the parents, for the rest of their lives. Bert Robbins

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[SNIP] UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – The United States on Monday warned a U.N. meeting on small arms trafficking it was prepared to do battle to defend the rights of arms makers and legal gun owners — even when the guns they want to own were specifically designed for war.

Maybe they should start eliminating cars, planes, and radios, all of which were designed for war. [ . . . ] "People all over the world are looking to this conference for meaningful steps toward enhancing human security and preventing further suffering and destruction of life," Harri Holkeri of Finland, president of the 189-nation U.N. General Assembly, said as the meeting opened.

Until cellular-phone sales put Finnish electronics on the map, Finland’s primary exports were from the Valmet small-arms plants to US gunwoners. "The United States is going to isolate itself from its closest allies," said Loretta Bondi of the Washington-based Fund for Peace.

Good!  Maybe next time they have a war, they won’t ask us to join in. Come to think of it, we’ve been at war AGAINST each of our "closest allies" at some point in the last 225 years . . . Brazilian delegate Rubem Cesar Fernandes said, ”It sounded like they wanted the conference to collapse."

Imbel, the Brazil small-arms manufacturer, has only remained in business for 25 years on the basis of gun sales to US citizens.  By remaining in business, they have been able to also make arms for Brazil, so the country didn’t have to equip their police and army from foreign sources. Anti-gun activists, on the other hand, want to crack down on both legal and illegal arms deals, arguing that the vast majority of illegal weapons started out as legal.

And most tyrants started out as legitimate government officials. Socialists like Harry elected Adolf Hitler, for instance. The action plan calls for national laws requiring that arms be marked when they are made so they can be traced,

Gee, you mean, like, say, stamp a SERIAL NUMBER on them . . ?  What a novel idea! Citing "ambiguities," he said the United States also opposed a proposal that governments "seriously consider" banning the unrestricted sale and ownership of small arms "specifically designed for military purposes."

Like, say, flintlocks, revolvers, semi-auto pistols, lever-action rifles, everything ever made by the Browning Arms folks . . . Earlier, U.N. Deputy Secretary-General Louise Frechette told the conference that small arms have been the weapon of choice in 46 of 49 major conflicts since 1990, contributing to some 4 million deaths, with women and children accounting for 80 percent of those deaths.

Disarmament of the intended victims has been the weapon of choice of all tyrants and in every genocide for the last several centuries. While most of the 500 million small arms in circulation are in the hands of police forces, armies and lawful private owners, "a significant number end up in the hands of irregular forces, criminals and terrorists," she told the thousands of delegates, activists and weapons makers attending the meeting. [UNSNIP]

Yep.  Generally these are stolen from police forces and armies. Unfortunately, gun buyers don’t have to demonstrate intelligence or emotional balance before purchasing their weapons, else Henry here would be limited to pounding his pud instead of drawing beads on his neighbors.

Unfortunately, voters don’t have to demonstrate intelligence or emotional balance before casting their ballots, else Harry here would be limited to pounding his pud instead of drawing beads on his neighbors’ rights.

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Harry’s a socialist.  Thus, he thinks that what’s yours belongs to him. This leads a lot of people into crime. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And if there were justice, foul-mouthed, flat line EEGers such as you wouldn’t be allowed to buy anything more dangerous than Lincoln logs. The thread is going pretty much exactly as you hoped, isn’t it? What’s all this talk about you flashing a busload of children? Is that true? Are you some kind of pervert? You seem quite conversant on Bush’s arrest record. Enlighten us as to your own. I don’t have a record myself. I’ve passed a 25 year FBI background investigation, and I’m always intrigued as to what leads folks into criminal acts. What was the trigger in your case? Delete ImtheNRA in order to spam me. The Second Amendment isn’t about deer hunting.

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And if there were justice, foul-mouthed, flat line EEGers such as you wouldn’t be allowed to buy anything more dangerous than Lincoln logs.

The thread is going pretty much exactly as you hoped, isn’t it? What’s all this talk about you flashing a busload of children? Is that true? Are you some kind of pervert? You seem quite conversant on Bush’s arrest record. Enlighten us as to your own. I don’t have a record myself. I’ve passed a 25 year FBI background investigation, and I’m always intrigued as to what leads folks into criminal acts. What was the trigger in your case? Delete ImtheNRA in order to spam me. The Second Amendment isn’t about deer hunting.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The stance fueled criticism that the United States is taking isolationist positions on a number of multilateral issues, after Washington’s rejection of a climate change accord and its doubts about other arms-control agreements. It takes a lot more courage to do the unpopular things. Courage is something that was in extremely short supply during the last administration. Hmmm, nuking Canada wouldn’t be too popular.

Depends on who you ask.  And how clean the bombs.  There are a lot of folks (in the US and Canada) who consider Ottawa a prime candidate for Instant Urban Renewal.

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Hi, I was just wondering which one should be done first. The income statement or the balance sheet? Thanks, Yuting — At first there was nothing. Then God said ‘Let there be light!’ Then there was still nothing. But you could see it.

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Hi, I was just wondering which one should be done first. The income statement or the balance sheet?

If you use a "textbook" double entry accounting system, the first one you do is the one you pull off the adjusted trial balance first. In other words, it really doesn’t make any difference which one you do first. If you do the balance sheet first, you will know what net income will turn out to be because you will know what retained earnings has to be on the balance sheet because you know assets, liabilities, and contributed capital. If you do the income statement first, that will tell you what retained earnings has to be because you know net income. If the two approaches give you different numbers for retained earnings, then you’ve made a mistake somewhere. That is the beauty (and the curse) of double entry accounting. Regards, Bill #*#*# Associate Professor of Accounting School of Business & Economics Longwood College http://web.lwc.edu/staff/wpbrown/wpbrown.htm Opinions expressed by me are mine alone and not that of my employer.

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Thanks — At first there was nothing. Then God said ‘Let there be light!’ Then there was still nothing. But you could see it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I was just wondering which one should be done first. The income statement or the balance sheet? If you use a "textbook" double entry accounting system, the first one you do is the one you pull off the adjusted trial balance first. In other words, it really doesn’t make any difference which one you do first. If you do the balance sheet first, you will know what net income will turn out to be because you will know what retained earnings has to be on the balance sheet because you know assets, liabilities, and contributed capital. If you do the income statement first, that will tell you what retained earnings has to be because you know net income. If the two approaches give you different numbers for retained earnings, then you’ve made a mistake somewhere. That is the beauty (and the curse) of double entry accounting. Regards, Bill #*#*# Associate Professor of Accounting School of Business & Economics Longwood College http://web.lwc.edu/staff/wpbrown/wpbrown.htm Opinions expressed by me are mine alone and not that of my employer.

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That’s a good one Moose.  Keep up the good work ! Peter

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Moose, Another way to view the relationships among the statements is to consider the Balance sheet as a static view of the firm’s financial position and the Income Statement, Statement of Retained Earnings and Statement of Cash Flows to be descriptions of the dynamic changes in financial position during the period in question.  I usually start with the Beginning Balance Sheet (same as the ending balance sheet for the previous period) then the dynamics and finally the Balance sheet describing the financial position at the end.  In the  worksheet approach the unadjusted trail balance represents the beginning point. Al S.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I was just wondering which one should be done first. The income statement or the balance sheet? Thanks, Yuting — At first there was nothing. Then God said ‘Let there be light!’ Then there was still nothing. But you could see it.

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http://www.OttawaGolf.com/jokes is one of the largest joke collections on the net. Feel free to look around at the rest of the site. Lots of material and pictures. Keep it in the short grass! If anyone could send me some great golfing humor, I would appreciate it!  I will accept in any format and can be audio/visual too. or drop by my site and leave there… www.icenter.net/~acker

Dan Kilbank L.P.P.O. Ottawa Ontario Canada http://www.OttawaGolf.com

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Read the "Golfing with Taco Bell" thread down below… classic!

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If anyone could send me some great golfing humor, I would appreciate it!  I will accept in any format and can be audio/visual too. or drop by my site and leave there… www.icenter.net/~acker

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Try looking at a www page called "Thor’s Great Golf Links."  I have not read all of them, but the do have a golf jokes link. http://www.ttsoft.com/thor/golflinks.html (to send eMAIL reply, remove "NoSpam" from my address)

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Another site you can look at for golf jokes is (Bad Golf Monthly). http://www.badgolfmonthly.com (to send eMAIL reply, remove "NoSpam" from my address)

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If anyone could send me some great golfing humor, I would appreciate it!  I will accept in any format and can be audio/visual too.

I only remember one… Two accountants are playing golf one beautiful day after tax season is finished.  On one of the par 3s, the first guy tees off and puts it within a few feet of the cup. The second one tees off and does the same thing… They walk up to the green and only see one ball on it… so one of them looks in the cup and sure enough, one of the balls is in the cup!  Well, since they were both playing the same brand of ball, they start arguing over whose ball is in the hole and whose is still on the green. Finally a course marshall drives by and sees them arguing and asks if he can help with something.  They explain that one of them hit a hole in one and the other is still on the green and they don’t know which one hit the hole-in-one. The marshall takes a look at the ball in the hole and the ball on the green and says "Alright, which of you is playing the orange ball and which of you is playing the white one?" Jen

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Appetite suppresants don’t come without side effects.

For some people, that includes weight loss.  Obesity comes with its own fine set of side effects. I, personally would never take them and definitely wouldn’t recommend them.

oh well, in THAT case… None have been proven safe. At work, there is not one Doctor that I have come across that condones them.

Aren’t you an RN? At what kind of clinic/hospital do you work?  Evidently, not in bariatric medicine. I bring a lot of discussions from here into work as a print out. If you have any other questions I can print them and ask a Dr.’s opinion. You’ll also get mine, too.

Believe Stacy when she says this; you will certainly get her opinion. Stacy, I feel that moralizing on the subject of weight loss is at least rude, and at worst dangerous.  Not everybody can lose weight and live by your standards.  YMMV, etc. etc.   i.m. e-mailless to avoid spam

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Appetite suppresants don’t come without side effects. I, personally would never take them and definitely wouldn’t recommend them. None have been proven safe. At work, there is not one Doctor that I have come across that condones them. I bring a lot of discussions from here into work as a print out. If you have any other questions I can print them and ask a Dr.’s opinion. You’ll also get mine, too.

You mustn’t get out a lot. Thousands of doctors across the country prescribe appetite suppressants, including mine. I don’t go to a bariatric physician. My regular internist prescribes my medication. All medication, not just appetite suppressants, have side effects. Many are even lethal. Erogtamine and imitrex are linked to heart valve damage. If you’ve seen a recent imitrex commercial on TV all they talk about are heart problems. But what medication gets pulled? Fenfluramine and dexfenfluramine. I only took fen for a short time, and never took dexfen, but these drugs did work well for many. There are still many appetite suppressants on the market. I have information on anorectic medications in use on my web site. You’ll see a link from the front door, and also lists of doctors who prescribe medications, and information on how to locate a doctor if you don’t already have a phsyician. Best of luck, Barbara Barbara Hirsch, Publisher Obesity Meds and Research News OMR Web Site: http://www.obesity-news.com

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Appetite suppresants don’t come without side effects. I, personally would never take them and definitely wouldn’t recommend them. None have been proven safe. At work, there is not one Doctor that I have come across that condones them. I bring a lot of discussions from here into work as a print out. If you have any other questions I can print them and ask a Dr.’s opinion. You’ll also get mine, too.

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I have just started taking Adipex-P which is phentermine.  I could go all day without eating and it also gives me the energy to work out.  

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Are there any safe, healthy drugs/medicines/herbs that effectively reduce the feeling of hunger? Please reply here, in this newsgroup.

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None have been proven safe. At work, there is not one Doctor that I have come across that condones them. Aren’t you an RN? At what kind of clinic/hospital do you work?  Evidently, not in bariatric medicine.

As of October 1997 she was working in the San Diego area, probably in an intensive care unit. — How wide? No answers at http://users.deltanet.com/~jbredeho/tt3/ The following link no longer works: http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=9022588&server=db97p5x

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Appetite suppresants don’t come without side effects. I, personally would never take them and definitely wouldn’t recommend them. None have been proven safe. At work, there is not one Doctor that I have come across that condones them. I bring a lot of discussions from here into work as a print out. If you have any other questions I can print them and ask a Dr.’s opinion. You’ll also get mine, too.

And as we all know, doctors are SO successful at keeping weight off people. Gary Mitchell

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I had gone on phen/fen and I did get more energy and felt great but I had side effects of massive thirst so I went off them. I have been on Atkins for 2 weeks and decided to go back on the phen.

I would suggest that it’s even more important to monitor you thirst intake if you’re doing Atkins’ plan and taking phen, especially if phen causes you massive thirst. Lee S.

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None have been proven safe. At work, there is not one Doctor that I have come across that condones them. Aren’t you an RN? At what kind of clinic/hospital do you work?  Evidently, not in bariatric medicine.

She’s got to be a nurse at a prison infirmary…isn’t Pelican Bay down in San Diego?  And that big job transfer, wouldn’t you try to send her clear across the country if you had to work with her? — Lisa

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I had gone on phen/fen and I did get more energy and felt great but I had side effects of massive thirst so I went off them. I have been on Atkins for 2 weeks and decided to go back on the phen. I went back on the phen 3days ago. I only take one 15mg slow release in the morning (1/2 of my dose) and it is enough for me for the whole day. I don’t have problems sleeping on this low dose either. I think it is a perfect mix for me. We’ll see how it goes in the next few weeks.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Appetite suppresants don’t come without side effects. I, personally would never take them and definitely wouldn’t recommend them. None have been proven safe. At work, there is not one Doctor that I have come across that condones them. And as we all know, doctors are SO successful at keeping weight off people. Gary Mitchell Much less keeping it off themselves! Lee S.

And frankly, working in labs alongside MDs, I’ve got to say that some of them have the worst eating habits themselves that I’ve ever seen. One has the same thing for lunch EVERY DAY. A sugar coke, Ring Dings and a bag of Fritos. Not that he’s fat at all, but let’s face it. You know damned well that he’s not recommending that type of lifestyle to his patients And lets not forget hospital staff cafeterias. With few exceptions along my training, every single one I’ve ever eaten in was a total nightmare for low fat eaters (not that I am one anymore . I had NEVER in my life seen "chicken fried steak" (for those who aren’t aware of what that is, it’s battered and deep fried steak) or "fried corn" (niblets or something fried in copious amounts of butter or margarine; I’m not sure which) before I went into science and started entering hospital cafeterias. Greens always included greasy fatback (and even though I’m on Atkins now, I just can’t eat that; blech) and just about the only thing I could eat was the salad at the salad bar, at which all the nutritionally decent lettuce or spinach was usually already taken and all that was left was the nutritional void of iceburg lettuce (which I don’t like anyway). Needless to say, when I was eating low fat, I always packed my lunch! At least now when I forget my lunch, I can eat some of that stuff, however unpalatable it is. Stacy Ferguson 199/171/140 (on Atkins since 11/29/97 and enjoying the hell out of it!)

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Are there any safe, healthy drugs/medicines/herbs that effectively reduce the feeling of hunger? Please reply here, in this newsgroup.

One fibercon with a full glass of water effectively reduces the feelings of hunger in me.  A pharmacist told me it was the most effective over-the-counter appetite suppressant he had.  I asked my doctor, and she said I should keep to under two a day, which I do.  (A medicinal dose is two tablets at a time, one to four times a day.)  I generally have one just before lunch or dinner, to help me do the "push away" at the end. I buy the generic fiber laxative – it’s not only effective, but it’s cheap.  By the way, these are NOT addictive, and do not have unpleasant digestive results.   W., who can’t believe she’s talking about this online!

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Appetite suppresants don’t come without side effects. I, personally would never take them and definitely wouldn’t recommend them. None have been proven safe. At work, there is not one Doctor that I have come across that condones them. And as we all know, doctors are SO successful at keeping weight off people. Gary Mitchell

Much less keeping it off themselves! Lee S.

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Just read your posted reply in this thread. Why all the jealousy and anger? If you don’t like my opinions, don’t read them. My opinions are professional ones that relate to how patients have been injured as a result of taking them. Why flame me? I’m just relying on 19 years working in this field. From what source(s) is your info coming from? I’ve seen the side effects with my own eyes from arrythmias to a full blown code blue, even on younger patients where their hearts could not handle the stimulant part of these dangerous drugs. I had to code a 40 y/o female in my ICU due to an arrythmia called supraventricular tachycardia that all of a sudden resulted in asystole. She was on some herbal appetite suppressants . It killed her. What other proof do you need? This person had no history of any previous heart disease or health condition. She was about 5 ft. 6 in. tall and weighed about 195 lbs. It was an over the counter pill that was taken. No, I’m not an advocate for these pills and will never forget this preventable death.

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As of October 1997 she was working in the San Diego area, probably in an intensive care unit.

You’d think that as much as she gets flamed here, she’d be a patient in the ICU. Triton remove eats.spam to email me. ICQ# 2081153

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One fibercon with a full glass of water effectively reduces the feelings of hunger in me.  A pharmacist told me it was the most effective over-the-counter appetite suppressant he had.

Glad this worked for you. I take FiberCon myself, to relieve constipation, a side effect of phentermine. I took FiberCon occasionally for the same purpose before I took phentermine. Never noticed an effect on appetite either before the phentermine or after. I take 4 a day. YMMV, Barbara Barbara Hirsch, Publisher Obesity Meds and Research News OMR Web Site: http://www.obesity-news.com

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I’ve seen the side effects with my own eyes from arrythmias to a full blown code blue, even on younger patients where their hearts could not handle the stimulant part of these dangerous drugs.

Excuse me, but I’m an ICU nurse.  In my many years in nursing, the only non-prescription drug I’ve ever seen cause a lethal arrhythmia has been cocaine. I had to code a 40 y/o female in my ICU due to an arrythmia called supraventricular tachycardia that all of a sudden resulted in asystole. She was on some herbal appetite suppressants . It killed her. What other proof do you need? This person had no history of any previous heart disease or health condition. She was about 5 ft. 6 in. tall and weighed about 195 lbs. It was an over the counter pill that was taken. No, I’m not an advocate for these pills and will never forget this preventable death.

Really?  What did the post show?  Can you definitively correlate the SVT to the herbal medication?  How do you know she didn’t suddenly throw a PE?  She wasn’t having an MI?  And how did the SVT progress to asystole?  That’s a *very* unusual progression.  (I’m also an Advanced Cardiac Life Support instructor, BTW.)  If she had no other history of previous heart disease or health condition, what was she doing in your ICU?  If she had a non-rate-controlled SVT, did you cardiovert her prior to her code?  Do I sound skeptical?  Is the Pope Polish? — Linda "I can’t believe that we are going to let a majority of the people decide what’s best for this state."  LA State Rep J. Travis

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve seen the side effects with my own eyes from arrythmias to a full blown code blue, even on younger patients where their hearts could not handle the stimulant part of these dangerous drugs. Excuse me, but I’m an ICU nurse.  In my many years in nursing, the only non-prescription drug I’ve ever seen cause a lethal arrhythmia has been cocaine. I had to code a 40 y/o female in my ICU due to an arrythmia called supraventricular tachycardia that all of a sudden resulted in asystole. She was on some herbal appetite suppressants . It killed her. What other proof do you need? This person had no history of any previous heart disease or health condition. She was about 5 ft. 6 in. tall and weighed about 195 lbs. It was an over the counter pill that was taken. No, I’m not an advocate for these pills and will never forget this preventable death. Really?  What did the post show?  Can you definitively correlate the SVT to the herbal medication?  How do you know she didn’t suddenly throw a PE?  She wasn’t having an MI?  And how did the SVT progress to asystole?  That’s a *very* unusual progression.  (I’m also an Advanced Cardiac Life Support instructor, BTW.)  If she had no other history of previous heart disease or health condition, what was she doing in your ICU?  If she had a non-rate-controlled SVT, did you cardiovert her prior to her code?  Do I sound skeptical?  Is the Pope Polish?

I’m not a nurse and don’t play one on TV, but simple cause and effect rules can apply. I’d like to see the autopsy report that indicated that the cause of death was the over the counter medication. Did this occur in a California hospital? — Linda "I can’t believe that we are going to let a majority of the people decide what’s best for this state."  LA State Rep J. Travis

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Really?  What did the post show?  Can you definitively correlate the SVT to the herbal medication?   I’m not a nurse and don’t play one on TV, but simple cause and effect rules can apply. I’d like to see the autopsy report that indicated that the cause of death was the over the counter medication.

That’s why I asked about the post (post-mortem).  Somehow I don’t think Stacy would have access to that. — Linda "I can’t believe that we are going to let a majority of the people decide what’s best for this state."  LA State Rep J. Travis

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Did this occur in a California hospital? No that was in the Florida Hospital. Don’t you have a Stacy GPS unit so you can tell if she is in San Diego or Orlando? Harry

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As of October 1997 she was working in the San Diego area, probably in an intensive care unit. You’d think that as much as she gets flamed here, she’d be a patient in the ICU.

Money (i.e. her recent raise) can buy happiness. Triton remove eats.spam to email me. ICQ# 2081153

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Just read your posted reply in this thread. Why all the jealousy and anger? If you don’t like my opinions, don’t read them.

You should take your own advice.  If you don’t like MY opinions, then don’t read them. My opinions are professional ones that relate to how patients have been injured as a result of taking them.

Yeah, hmmmm, I see, so how’s that Calorad regime coming along?   Why flame me? I’m just relying on 19 years working in this field. From what source(s) is your info coming from?

My sources are based on the stupidity that oozes from 99.9 3/4% of your posts.   I’ve seen the side effects with my own eyes from arrythmias to a full blown code blue, even on younger patients where their hearts could not handle the stimulant part of these dangerous drugs. I had to code a 40 y/o female in my ICU due to an arrythmia called supraventricular tachycardia that all of a sudden resulted in asystole. She was on some herbal appetite suppressants . It killed her. What other proof do you need?

Okay, first, what brand of appetite suppressants was it that supposedly caused this woman’s death?  How about an autopsy report?  What did the toxicology screen show?  Surely you can find out, being that you’re always listening in on all the doctors’ conversations and all.  Perhaps the media should be alerted to this?  Why have YOU not contacted them? Dateline & 20/20 love these kind of stories!  Just think how MANY more lives YOU could save if the world only knew!   Stacy, really now, do you honestly think everyone here is going to take your word about anything?  How about that doctor who fused your wrist back onto you?  You still haven’t told us his name…. This person had no history of any previous heart disease or health condition. She was about 5 ft. 6 in. tall and weighed about 195 lbs. It was an over the counter pill that was taken. No, I’m not an advocate for these pills and will never forget this preventable death.

Ah yes, such raw heart-wrenching emotion!!!!!   Everything always seems to happen on your shift, huh?   —      (to email change the dot)

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Really?  What did the post show?  Can you definitively correlate the SVT to the herbal medication?   I’m not a nurse and don’t play one on TV, but simple cause and effect rules can apply. I’d like to see the autopsy report that indicated that the cause of death was the over the counter medication. That’s why I asked about the post (post-mortem).  Somehow I don’t think Stacy would have access to that.

Thanks for explaining what a "post" is. Is that generally only handled by the doctor? — Linda "I can’t believe that we are going to let a majority of the people decide what’s best for this state."  LA State Rep J. Travis

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[portions snipped] I had to code a 40 y/o female in my ICU due to an arrythmia called supraventricular tachycardia that all of a sudden resulted in asystole. She was on some herbal appetite suppressants . It killed her. What other proof do you need? Okay, first, what brand of appetite suppressants was it that supposedly caused this woman’s death?  How about an autopsy report?  What did the toxicology screen show?  Surely you can find out, being that you’re always listening in on all the doctors’ conversations and all.  Perhaps the media should be alerted to this?  Why have YOU not contacted them? Dateline & 20/20 love these kind of stories!  Just think how MANY more lives YOU could save if the world only knew!  

She oughta contact Paul Moyer. His station loves these stories, and it would only be a short drive for Stacy (although I’m sure she could afford the even shorter plane trip). — How wide? No answers at http://users.deltanet.com/~jbredeho/tt3/ The following link no longer works: http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=9022588&server=db97p5x

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That’s why I asked about the post (post-mortem).  Somehow I don’t think Stacy would have access to that. Thanks for explaining what a "post" is. Is that generally only handled by the doctor?

The nurse has *nothing* to do with autopsies.  The doctor gets permission (unless it is mandated as a coroner’s case), the pathologist does the post, and the results may be discussed at M&M rounds (morbidity and mortality), where the nurse is *definitely* not included.  For a nurse to find out the results of a post, she would have to make a point of asking a doctor associated with the case.  Once a patient leaves (so to speak), our involvement with the patient ends.  Of course, there’s no accounting for rumors and innuendos when a patient dies under unusual circumstances. — Linda "I can’t believe that we are going to let a majority of the people decide what’s best for this state."  LA State Rep J. Travis

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<many newsgroups trimmed for this response I can’t really blame people for hating the good ol’ US of A, I mean, we’ve done more damage to this world than the Brits could have ever dreamed of!  But please remember, silly foreigner types, not all of us are malevolant and evil.  Some of us want to change the way this land is run.

Several points: 1. Nobody should ever mistake the policies of a government as being equivalent to that country entirely.  Many Vietnam war protesters made the foolish leap from being against the war to being against the United States.  Jane Fonda is a classic, and extremely rueful example. So when you say you can’t blame people for hating the United States, you are saying you can’t blame them for being stupid jerks.  It’s like people who hated "Russia" in the cold war.  We didn’t hate Russia, we hated the idiots who happened to be in charge of the government at the time. 2. I’d much rather argue the US side than the British side in a debate about who screwed the world less.  I’d also argue that both were on balance forces for good in history. 3. "Not all of us are malevolant (sic) and evil."  Some of us are on the good side.  This is one of the problems with the current debate–each side insists the other is sick and twisted.  Liberals want your kids to learn how to have safe homosexual intercourse in kindergarten, while conservatives don’t want sex education at all because it might reveal that they’ve been raping their kids.  Liberals want the new post-birth abortion bill approved, while conservatives want to make sure the coathanger is manufactured in Mexico.  Liberals want to ban the gun you could save your family with, while conservatives want to make sure that crack dealers have plenty of assault rifles around the house.  I suspect that most of us are nowhere near any of these extremes.  Yes, we Republicans have Pat Buchanan, and you Democrats have Dick Gephardt, but the reality of life is that neither of these guys could get more than about a third of their own party’s votes, and would pick up virtually none from the other side. Pat Curley

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    What an utterly uninformed opinion you have. What should the 20,000   Microsoft employees (most of whom own stock options themselves worth millions) or the hundreds of thousands of people in companies that sprug up to enhance and support Microsoft products do when brain dead socialists

  destroy incentives to create a Microsoft because they are envious of other

  people’s success??? I’ll let you in on a little secret. Information technology will shortly

  enable smart people to work anywhere in the world.    Yers but I’m using a Microsoft system that is a bitch to operate,  and I can’t think of using others cos it was packaged kindly by my ISP   When I have some experience I hope to have the confidence to replace   most of the micrrosoft stuff on this machine.  My reason?  Because although no doubt Bill is an intelligent, benign one,   I want no part in his control of this medium or any control that  requires you to have sourced all your products from him.  I hope in the future we can get to a position where intelligent file   handling allows us to use  practically any software to open a file. One thing is for sure.  The relationship of  Microsoft’s dreams and US Government power is more surely of  concern to me as a computer user than Zaire or Indonesia,  though I have spent many hours watching and feeling for the   people of those country’s recently.  And if that is Socialism, well, tough. I just call it choice. something Microsoft currently give little of, it would seem.   Teal

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And to  suggest as the  above article did that marginal taxation was an  ilness is to deny the most  painful experience of Britain in recent years- THE POLL TAX_ -occurred   an attempt to use a non-marginal tax so why are you? I can only assume you failed to note the previous examples of true non-marginal taxation with care- eg Spain before the Republic. The chaos both of these examples exemplified the situation America should hate: an abandonment of judgement and morality by its government to the trendy politics of the rich.Teal l Teal – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What an utterly uninformed opinion you have. What should the 20,000 Microsoft employees (most of whom own stock options themselves worth millions) or the hundreds of thousands of people in companies that sprug up to enhance and support Microsoft products do when brain dead socialists destroy incentives to create a Microsoft because they are envious of other people’s success??? I’ll let you in on a little secret. Information technology will shortly enable smart people to work anywhere in the world. The Clinton Administration is already worried about this and has proposed a 3% exit tax on net worth for people who want to renounce their citizenship and leave the country (sort of a financial Berlin Wall). There are an increasing number of emerging places in the world that welcome smart, wealthy people with open arms, low tax rates, and even private tax treaties for the very wealthy. They know that smart and wealthy people place few demands on government services and can provide great benefit to an area by creating new businesses that employ the local population. Faced with increasing tax burdens and envy in the industrial democracies of Europe and North American, what will smart people do when technologies like Teledesc tie the whole world together in 2002? Leave. Who will be left? The dummies. Think about it. "Maximum wage"??? You are actually suggesting, presumably with a straight face, that the public give you the right to decide if someone is making too much money, and then let you take it away??? Boy, *there’s* a sure way to motivate hard work and achievement… Yeah, If you make over 2,000,000 bucks a year.  The rest goes to society.  Screw Bill Gates and the Multimillionares who make up the top 1% of the wealth.  Thanks to Reagan-Bush right now if they have decent accountants they pay NO taxes.

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I have no Social(ist) (In)Security number and do not pay or owe income taxes.

Yet you still use government services which you admit you do not pay for. I have no Driver’s license – but I do travel upon my public roads without hinderance.

Here is an example of a government service (public roads) which you use yet do not pay for and also an example of contempt for the law – the purpose for driver’s licenses is to ensure those who drive are qualified. You apparently believe anyone, even those with records to drinking and driving, even those without insurance, etc should be allowed to fly down the road in a ton of steel. I have no auto tag – but I travel in my private automobile without hinderance.

Another show of contempt. I am an American, but I’m not a U.S. citizen.

The same could be said of my cat.  If you are anot a citizen then you do not vote.  If you do not vote and you do not pay taxes and you do not follow the laws and you continue to use public services, clearly you are part of the problem, not solution. I am a free inhabitant with all the privileges and immunities of free citizens, pursuant to Article 4 of the Articles of Confederation.

The Articles of Confederation are not law, they are history.  The U.S. Constitution is the Law of the Land now and has been for 200 years.  You are a mooch.  Get a life.      *  *                           **                 http://www.unc.edu/~davwhitt         ***                        **  *  *            People often find it easier to be a result       **    **             of the past than a cause of the future.

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OKAY OKAY OKAY If you don’t know it, Income Taxation in America is 100% voluntary. Even the IRS admits they enforce voluntary compliance. What they don’t tell you is HOW YOU VOLUNTEERED! The SECRET: The Social Security number. If you don’t have the number you have NO TAXABLE INCOME! There is no law requiring the number, nor any law that punishes you for not having the number. If there ever is a law that mandates the number, it will be involuntary servitude and unconstitutional. The Socialist / Communists, who are really pirates in pinstripes, want to confiscate all wealth. But they still need your consent – at least until they confiscate all guns from Americans. So if you want to build real wealth and not leave your beloved homeland, just move from the United States and back into the United States of America. I did. I have no Social(ist) (In)Security number and do not pay or owe income taxes. I have no Driver’s license – but I do travel upon my public roads without hinderance. I have no auto tag – but I travel in my private automobile without hinderance. I am an American, but I’m not a U.S. citizen. I am a free inhabitant with all the privileges and immunities of free citizens, pursuant to Article 4 of the Articles of Confederation. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And to  suggest as the  above article did that marginal taxation was an  ilness is to deny the most  painful experience of Britain in recent years- THE POLL TAX_ -occurred   an attempt to use a non-marginal tax so why are you? I can only assume you failed to note the previous examples of true non-marginal taxation with care- eg Spain before the Republic. The chaos both of these examples exemplified the situation America should hate: an abandonment of judgement and morality by its government to the trendy politics of the rich.Teal l Teal What an utterly uninformed opinion you have. What should the 20,000 Microsoft employees (most of whom own stock options themselves worth millions) or the hundreds of thousands of people in companies that sprug up to enhance and support Microsoft products do when brain dead socialists destroy incentives to create a Microsoft because they are envious of other people’s success??? I’ll let you in on a little secret. Information technology will shortly enable smart people to work anywhere in the world. The Clinton Administration is already worried about this and has proposed a 3% exit tax on net worth for people who want to renounce their citizenship and leave the country (sort of a financial Berlin Wall). There are an increasing number of emerging places in the world that welcome smart, wealthy people with open arms, low tax rates, and even private tax treaties for the very wealthy. They know that smart and wealthy people place few demands on government services and can provide great benefit to an area by creating new businesses that employ the local population. Faced with increasing tax burdens and envy in the industrial democracies of Europe and North American, what will smart people do when technologies like Teledesc tie the whole world together in 2002? Leave. Who will be left? The dummies. Think about it. "Maximum wage"??? You are actually suggesting, presumably with a straight face, that the public give you the right to decide if someone is making too much money, and then let you take it away??? Boy, *there’s* a sure way to motivate hard work and achievement… Yeah, If you make over 2,000,000 bucks a year.  The rest goes to society.  Screw Bill Gates and the Multimillionares who make up the top 1% of the wealth.  Thanks to Reagan-Bush right now if they have decent accountants they pay NO taxes.

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My Dear Uncle Authur Have you actually run out of things to say?  I have just read the third consecutive message from you . . . ALL IDENTICAL in text. What gives?   hgm

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What an utterly uninformed opinion you have. What should the 20,000 Microsoft employees (most of whom own stock options themselves worth millions) or the hundreds of thousands of people in companies that sprug up to enhance and support Microsoft products do when brain dead socialists destroy incentives to create a Microsoft because they are envious of other people’s success??? I’ll let you in on a little secret. Information technology will shortly enable smart people to work anywhere in the world. The Clinton Administration is already worried about this and has proposed a 3% exit tax on net worth for people who want to renounce their citizenship and leave the country (sort of a financial Berlin Wall). There are an increasing number of emerging places in the world that welcome smart, wealthy people with open arms, low tax rates, and even private tax treaties for the very wealthy. They know that smart and wealthy people place few demands on government services and can provide great benefit to an area by creating new businesses that employ the local population. Faced with increasing tax burdens and envy in the industrial democracies of Europe and North American, what will smart people do when technologies like Teledesc tie the whole world together in 2002? Leave. Who will be left? The dummies. Think about it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Maximum wage"??? You are actually suggesting, presumably with a straight face, that the public give you the right to decide if someone is making too much money, and then let you take it away??? Boy, *there’s* a sure way to motivate hard work and achievement… Yeah, If you make over 2,000,000 bucks a year.  The rest goes to society.  Screw Bill Gates and the Multimillionares who make up the top 1% of the wealth.  Thanks to Reagan-Bush right now if they have decent accountants they pay NO taxes.

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What an utterly uninformed opinion you have. What should the 20,000 Microsoft employees (most of whom own stock options themselves worth millions) or the hundreds of thousands of people in companies that sprug up to enhance and support Microsoft products do when brain dead socialists destroy incentives to create a Microsoft because they are envious of other people’s success???

The Maximum wage idea while pretty damn desirable (considering that only .1% of the population will EVER make a 1,000,000) is not as neccesarry as a decent tax rate for the SUPER-Rich the top 10% of those afformentioned .1%  Let’s say a top tax rate of 83% like a civilised country (Holland or pre-corporate owned America). Lesse considering that the cost of a college education to get those jobs has risen out of the means of the working class, and not to forget those friendly Reagan-Bush-Clinton cuts to Government grants for the poor, Only the Upper middle-class will have a chance of ever getting those jobs. " Damn those poor people just don’t work hard enough"   and it’s basically BULLSHIT!  I’m amazed at how many college-educated people in this country have no idea how much of an advantage they had from the beginning (economic backround, private schools, not ‘having" to work in their teenage years, and dont get me started on for-pay special SAT classes only rich people can afford). Jesus, and you people wonder why the rich are systematically slaughtered by society every couple a hundred years. I’ll let you in on a little secret. Information technology will shortly enable smart people to work anywhere in the world.

No the priveleged, mostly white, middle class who could afford college.  Not Poor people in the city, who with a gutted public education system and no government loans, CANT AFFORD the technical training you are so enamored of. The Clinton Administration is already worried about this and has proposed a 3% exit tax on net worth for people who want to renounce their citizenship and leave the country (sort of a financial Berlin Wall). There are an increasing number of emerging places in the world that welcome smart, wealthy people with open arms, low tax rates, and even private tax treaties for the very wealthy.

Yes, wonderful, clean, humane places like Singapore and South America. Gee what those countries have in common is an incredible disparity between rich and poor.  Not to mention oppression, totalitarianism, and slavery for the poor and disenfranchised. They know that smart and wealthy people place few demands on government services and can provide great benefit to an area by creating new businesses that employ the local population. Faced with increasing tax burdens and envy in the industrial democracies of Europe and North American, what will smart people do when technologies like Teledesc tie the whole world together in 2002? Leave. Who will be left? The dummies. Think about it.

Nope, Greedy, Unrepentant Feudalistic bastards like you are the dummies.  Because it’s your lack of compassion and understanding, or even awareness of your own advantages, that make you INTOLERABLE to most people in this country.  

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:And for those who will argue that I’m placing my own job at risk, :their assumption would have to be that companies should waste money on :unnecessary and unproductive methods just to keep someone employed. Ok, fair enough, I know companies have to make the busniess more efficient and cut back sometimes. But when a man has worked hard for a company since the 1960’s and then is fired on the spot and then just kicked out the door that is utterly digusting by any social, moral or ethical yardstick. Secondly, even when a company is doing well they fire workers to get more profits and to boost CEO paychecks which are already bizarre figures in the USA. Even if the management is incompetant which was the case of American busniess all through the 1970’s the CEO never lose their jobs only the average workers do. There are lots of examles of this. When they screw up totally they get the US taxpayers to bail them out i.e., Penn Central, Chysler, AMC, Grummond Aerospace, S&L bail out and many other examples of "quick fix socialism" to save the CEO’s. The great Gore Vidal said that "the USA is the only country on earth that has socialism for the elite and free market for the rest". History shows again and agin he is right. Also many American companies wave the flag during commercals to make you feel it is your national duty to buy their products. Yet American companies could not care less if the US vanished tomorrow other than the fact they could not screw American tax payers anymore. Look at how they ship American jobs and technology overseas to further feed the CEO’s own insatiable greed. Look at the number of American busniessmen who renounce (yes officially renounce!), their US citizenship and then pay millions of dollars to countries like Ireland and Switzerland for citizenship in those countries for them, their families and the massive assets. Then they continue to work in the USA but are not subjected to US income tax. Also if the shit hits the fan in the USA someday, the scumbags along with their families and personal capital start life again in nice little country. The GOP congress refused to pass a bill to prevent these scumbags from doing this. Now that was the real purpose of the ‘Contract on America’. They have the average American train like a performing seal and Americans love them for it. Oh, well at least the French people have sense.

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