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"shinypenny" <shinypenny0…@yahoo.com> writes: > Doug Anderson wrote: > > OK, this post made me smile!  But as much as I don’t think especially > > highly of Dickens, I doubt that "Groundhog Day" will have the staying > > power of "A Christmas Carol!" > > Nevertheless, your theory is worth considering.  100+ years on, > > perhaps Dickens is more popular than Trollope because Dickens was > > better at marketing.  Yet it still doesn’t explain the enduring > > popularity of Austen compared to her contemporaries (or even compared > > to Trollope). > Austen is a "chick" thing, Doug!

Another post that made me smile! Hey, I’m not trying to diss Jane Austen.  I like her, and find her clever and amusing.  I just think (Anthony) Trollope is on the neglected side and find him superior to most other 19th century British novelists (I’m counting Jane as 19th century, which is maybe stretching it). (I have a special place in my heart for George Eliot since although I’m not that crazy about the rest of her books, Middlemarch was my favorite book for a while.  Otherwise I’d say Trollope is, to my taste, the best 19th century British novelist.)

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Doug Anderson wrote: > Another post that made me smile! > Hey, I’m not trying to diss Jane Austen.  I like her, and find her > clever and amusing.  I just think (Anthony) Trollope is on the > neglected side and find him superior to most other 19th century > British novelists (I’m counting Jane as 19th century, which is maybe > stretching it).

You are missing the mastery of Austen, I’m afraid. Austen is all about empowerment. Her works are a clever antidote to the conduct books foisted on young women during her time. They read like a manual on how to be true to yourself, find happiness, retain your identity, *despite* the culture’s attempt to subsume you into a voiceless embodiment of purity and virtue whose fate is at the whims of society. Trollope is masterful in his own way, but he is more a cynical commentator recording the fate of young women in society. He empowers no one, and is actually quite depressing in his message, that no matter what you do or who you are or how you conduct yourself, there’s often a really bad ending if you’re a woman. Why does Austen endure with young women today? Well, go read my recent post about the art exhibit on Girl Culture we attended last night. Our popular culture still has an insidious conduct book, one that tells us that we must be pretty and thin and sexual in order to succeed. Austen is required reading for my girls, as I would like them to learn to empower themselves against this powerful cultural message. jen

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"shinypenny" <shinypenny0…@yahoo.com> writes: > Doug Anderson wrote: > > Another post that made me smile! > > Hey, I’m not trying to diss Jane Austen.  I like her, and find her > > clever and amusing.  I just think (Anthony) Trollope is on the > > neglected side and find him superior to most other 19th century > > British novelists (I’m counting Jane as 19th century, which is maybe > > stretching it). > You are missing the mastery of Austen, I’m afraid.

I have to agree with that. > Austen is all about empowerment. Her works are a clever antidote to the > conduct books foisted on young women during her time. They read like a > manual on how to be true to yourself, find happiness, retain your > identity, *despite* the culture’s attempt to subsume you into a > voiceless embodiment of purity and virtue whose fate is at the whims of > society.

Well, if I believed the paragraph above, then I’d probably actively _dis_like Austen! I think she is about more than empowerment,  though power clearly plays a large role in her dramas. > Trollope is masterful in his own way, but he is more a cynical > commentator recording the fate of young women in society. He empowers > no one, and is actually quite depressing in his message, that no matter > what you do or who you are or how you conduct yourself, there’s often a > really bad ending if you’re a woman.

Trollope is cynical, yes.  But he is interested in more than the fate of young women, and in broader social issues. > Why does Austen endure with young women today? Well, go read my recent > post about the art exhibit on Girl Culture we attended last night. Our > popular culture still has an insidious conduct book, one that tells us > that we must be pretty and thin and sexual in order to succeed. Austen > is required reading for my girls, as I would like them to learn to > empower themselves against this powerful cultural message.

Well, I think Austen is good reading.  But you have to be pretty and thin in her world too (although not explicitly sexual).  The difference between her message and the one you are objecting to is that Austen’s world includes the possibility of young women exercising power. To follow up on Darren’s comparison of Dickens and "Desparate Housewives," maybe Buffy the Vampire Slayer is the Jane Austen of our day.         Doug

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Dr Nancy’s Sweetie <kil…@elvis.rowan.edu> writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Discussing the popularity of Charles Dickens, "Jen Shinypenny > <shinypenny0…@yahoo.com>" wrote: > > I think Dickens is more popular simply because it’s taught very early > > in the school systems.  Tale of Two Cities and Great Expectations are > > on all the reading lists. > Whatever the merits of one’s writing, this is certainly a way for a > writer to endure.  Many times there are things that affect success but > have little to do with the actual content of your work. > One is maintaining a tease.  Dickens did well in his life in part > because he wrote soap operas.  _The Old Curiosity Shop_, for example, > was originally published in monthy installments, and after people got > hooked on it they were clamoring to find out what was going to happen > next.  It was just "Desperate Housewives" without the TV set. > Another thing is connecting to the cycle of the year.  It worked out > well for Dickens that he wrote a Christmas story, with the result that > every year people think of it. > Imagine, if you will, that "Groundhog Day" had been called "Again and > Again", and Bill Murray had repeatedly relived March 20th, or something. > How often since then would anybody have thought of that movie?  It > wasn’t a bad movie, but linking it to a holiday (a minor holiday, to be > sure, but one that is regularly mentioned) makes it stick in your head. > Every year, on Groundhog Day, you’re reminded of it.  And even better, > Groundhog Day didn’t already have a movie, so they have the entire day > to themselves.

OK, this post made me smile!  But as much as I don’t think especially highly of Dickens, I doubt that "Groundhog Day" will have the staying power of "A Christmas Carol!" Nevertheless, your theory is worth considering.  100+ years on, perhaps Dickens is more popular than Trollope because Dickens was better at marketing.  Yet it still doesn’t explain the enduring popularity of Austen compared to her contemporaries (or even compared to Trollope).

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Doug Anderson wrote: > OK, this post made me smile!  But as much as I don’t think especially > highly of Dickens, I doubt that "Groundhog Day" will have the staying > power of "A Christmas Carol!" > Nevertheless, your theory is worth considering.  100+ years on, > perhaps Dickens is more popular than Trollope because Dickens was > better at marketing.  Yet it still doesn’t explain the enduring > popularity of Austen compared to her contemporaries (or even compared > to Trollope).

Austen is a "chick" thing, Doug! jen

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Discussing the popularity of Charles Dickens, "Jen Shinypenny <shinypenny0…@yahoo.com>" wrote: > I think Dickens is more popular simply because it’s taught very early > in the school systems.  Tale of Two Cities and Great Expectations are > on all the reading lists.

Whatever the merits of one’s writing, this is certainly a way for a writer to endure.  Many times there are things that affect success but have little to do with the actual content of your work. One is maintaining a tease.  Dickens did well in his life in part because he wrote soap operas.  _The Old Curiosity Shop_, for example, was originally published in monthy installments, and after people got hooked on it they were clamoring to find out what was going to happen next.  It was just "Desperate Housewives" without the TV set. Another thing is connecting to the cycle of the year.  It worked out well for Dickens that he wrote a Christmas story, with the result that every year people think of it. Imagine, if you will, that "Groundhog Day" had been called "Again and Again", and Bill Murray had repeatedly relived March 20th, or something. How often since then would anybody have thought of that movie?  It wasn’t a bad movie, but linking it to a holiday (a minor holiday, to be sure, but one that is regularly mentioned) makes it stick in your head. Every year, on Groundhog Day, you’re reminded of it.  And even better, Groundhog Day didn’t already have a movie, so they have the entire day to themselves. Darren Provine ! kil…@elvis.rowan.edu ! http://www.rowan.edu/~kilroy "Does this sentence remind you of elephants?" — Douglas R Hofstadter

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry for any confusion, I am a newbie, remember? "Wages" below is the cash expense I was referring to.  Wages are no different from wages that are actually paid.  The vacation time is not paid out, but would appear on cash-based reports as the wages form the journal entry below, or am  wrong?  If it would, that is my problem. Thanks to all who responded. This probably won’t help clear things up, but cash basis folks would not accrue vacation. It cleared it up for me! That’s what I was thinking. If you’re accruing vacation, then you’re not really "cash-based." That’s probably why QB doesn’t do it. A true cash system would pay out the extra vacation money with each paycheck, leaving it up to the employee to save that money for their time off. I can’t imagine that ever happening, but a recent post here suggested that it is done at least in one company out there

You may want to think about the above again. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – somewhere… Angela

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My understanding was that QB allows you to store all transactions, liabilities, etc, and report on either cash or accrual basis.  If you run reports on cash basis, you do not see accrued vacation; on accrual basis you do.  What would be wrong with this?  Would not it be nice to track your actual expenses and liabilities, even if not all of them are visible on all reports? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – David is right. There are two types of accounting methods; 1) cash-basis and 2) accrual. In the text book world of accounting you cannot have receivables, payables, or accruals under the cash-basis accounting method, although many businesses try to do it that way. Jan "Wages" below is the cash expense I was referring to.  Wages are no different from wages that are actually paid.  The vacation time is not paid out, but would appear on cash-based reports as the wages form the journal entry below, or am  wrong?  If it would, that is my problem. This probably won’t help clear things up, but cash basis folks would not accrue vacation.

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David is right. There are two types of accounting methods; 1) cash-basis and 2) accrual. In the text book world of accounting you cannot have receivables, payables, or accruals under the cash-basis accounting method, although many businesses try to do it that way. Jan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Wages" below is the cash expense I was referring to.  Wages are no different from wages that are actually paid.  The vacation time is not paid out, but would appear on cash-based reports as the wages form the journal entry below, or am  wrong?  If it would, that is my problem. This probably won’t help clear things up, but cash basis folks would not accrue vacation.

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Sorry for any confusion, I am a newbie, remember? "Wages" below is the cash expense I was referring to.  Wages are no different from wages that are actually paid.  The vacation time is not paid out, but would appear on cash-based reports as the wages form the journal entry below, or am  wrong?  If it would, that is my problem. Thanks to all who responded. This probably won’t help clear things up, but cash basis folks would not accrue vacation.

It cleared it up for me! That’s what I was thinking. If you’re accruing vacation, then you’re not really "cash-based." That’s probably why QB doesn’t do it. A true cash system would pay out the extra vacation money with each paycheck, leaving it up to the employee to save that money for their time off. I can’t imagine that ever happening, but a recent post here suggested that it is done at least in one company out there somewhere… Angela

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Sorry for any confusion, I am a newbie, remember? "Wages" below is the cash expense I was referring to.  Wages are no different from wages that are actually paid.  The vacation time is not paid out, but would appear on cash-based reports as the wages form the journal entry below, or am  wrong?  If it would, that is my problem. Thanks to all who responded.

This probably won’t help clear things up, but cash basis folks would not accrue vacation. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – QB tracks vacation time, but to my understanding does not show it as a liability on, say, profit and loss reports. You can create a liability account and track accrued vacation there, in dollars; however, to increase the liability you need to record a cash expense. You need to record a journal entry not a cash expense. The entry is something like: Wages              xxxxxxx Accrued vacation                 xxxxxxxxx In this case, the expense would show on cash-basis reports, even though no cash has been paid.  This seems like a problem. Ideally, the liability should reflect the accrued vacation (on accrual based reports) but not on cash based reports Also ideally when the employees receive their vaction pay the accrual is automatically reversed. I’m quite certain the Canadian edition has tracked accrued vacation pay for at least the last 3-4 years. Don’t expect to see this mid-range feature in QB for a long time if ever. The answer is no. You will have to record the accrual via journal entry. QuickBooks 2004 Thanks Do you think it would be helpful if you told us what software you were using? I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA —

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Sorry for any confusion, I am a newbie, remember? "Wages" below is the cash expense I was referring to.  Wages are no different from wages that are actually paid.  The vacation time is not paid out, but would appear on cash-based reports as the wages form the journal entry below, or am  wrong?  If it would, that is my problem. Thanks to all who responded.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – QB tracks vacation time, but to my understanding does not show it as a liability on, say, profit and loss reports. You can create a liability account and track accrued vacation there, in dollars; however, to increase the liability you need to record a cash expense. You need to record a journal entry not a cash expense. The entry is something like: Wages              xxxxxxx Accrued vacation                 xxxxxxxxx In this case, the expense would show on cash-basis reports, even though no cash has been paid.  This seems like a problem. Ideally, the liability should reflect the accrued vacation (on accrual based reports) but not on cash based reports Also ideally when the employees receive their vaction pay the accrual is automatically reversed. I’m quite certain the Canadian edition has tracked accrued vacation pay for at least the last 3-4 years. Don’t expect to see this mid-range feature in QB for a long time if ever. The answer is no. You will have to record the accrual via journal entry. QuickBooks 2004 Thanks Do you think it would be helpful if you told us what software you were using? I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA —

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QB tracks vacation time, but to my understanding does not show it as a liability on, say, profit and loss reports. You can create a liability account and track accrued vacation there, in dollars; however, to increase the liability you need to record a cash expense.

You need to record a journal entry not a cash expense. The entry is something like: Wages              xxxxxxx Accrued vacation                 xxxxxxxxx In this case, the expense would show on cash-basis reports, even though no cash has been paid.  This seems like a problem. Ideally, the liability should reflect the accrued vacation (on accrual based reports) but not on cash based reports

Also ideally when the employees receive their vaction pay the accrual is automatically reversed. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m quite certain the Canadian edition has tracked accrued vacation pay for at least the last 3-4 years. Don’t expect to see this mid-range feature in QB for a long time if ever. The answer is no. You will have to record the accrual via journal entry. QuickBooks 2004 Thanks Do you think it would be helpful if you told us what software you were using? I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA —

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Yes, I checked again. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Quite certain sort of leaves room for doubt. Do you know for a fact that it actually books the liability in the general ledger? I’m quite certain the Canadian edition has tracked accrued vacation pay for at least the last 3-4 years. Don’t expect to see this mid-range feature in QB for a long time if ever. The answer is no. You will have to record the accrual via journal entry. QuickBooks 2004 Thanks Do you think it would be helpful if you told us what software you were using? I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA —

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Liabilities are included on the balance sheet, not Profit and Loss. Payroll expense for my clients (in Canada) includes the vacation pay accrual, and the liability is included in payroll liabilities on the balance sheet.  Apparently this is not the case in other countries. I’m confused by MG’s advice that you must record a "cash expense" to increase a liability.  It seems to me that a "cash expense" reduces cash (asset) and increases an expense but does not affect a liability account. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – QB tracks vacation time, but to my understanding does not show it as a liability on, say, profit and loss reports. You can create a liability account and track accrued vacation there, in dollars; however, to increase the liability you need to record a cash expense.  In this case, the expense would show on cash-basis reports, even though no cash has been paid.  This seems like a problem. Ideally, the liability should reflect the accrued vacation (on accrual based reports) but not on cash based reports I’m quite certain the Canadian edition has tracked accrued vacation pay for at least the last 3-4 years. Don’t expect to see this mid-range feature in QB for a long time if ever. The answer is no. You will have to record the accrual via journal entry. QuickBooks 2004 Thanks Do you think it would be helpful if you told us what software you were using? I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA —

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Quite certain sort of leaves room for doubt. Do you know for a fact that it actually books the liability in the general ledger?

I’m quite certain the Canadian edition has tracked accrued vacation pay for at least the last 3-4 years.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t expect to see this mid-range feature in QB for a long time if ever. The answer is no. You will have to record the accrual via journal entry. QuickBooks 2004 Thanks Do you think it would be helpful if you told us what software you were using? I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA —

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QB tracks vacation time, but to my understanding does not show it as a liability on, say, profit and loss reports. You can create a liability account and track accrued vacation there, in dollars; however, to increase the liability you need to record a cash expense.  In this case, the expense would show on cash-basis reports, even though no cash has been paid.  This seems like a problem. Ideally, the liability should reflect the accrued vacation (on accrual based reports) but not on cash based reports

I’m quite certain the Canadian edition has tracked accrued vacation pay for at least the last 3-4 years.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t expect to see this mid-range feature in QB for a long time if ever. The answer is no. You will have to record the accrual via journal entry. QuickBooks 2004 Thanks Do you think it would be helpful if you told us what software you were using? I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA —

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Don’t expect to see this mid-range feature in QB for a long time if ever. The answer is no. You will have to record the accrual via journal entry.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – QuickBooks 2004 Thanks Do you think it would be helpful if you told us what software you were using? I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA —

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I’m quite certain the Canadian edition has tracked accrued vacation pay for at least the last 3-4 years. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t expect to see this mid-range feature in QB for a long time if ever. The answer is no. You will have to record the accrual via journal entry. QuickBooks 2004 Thanks Do you think it would be helpful if you told us what software you were using? I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA —

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Do you think it would be helpful if you told us what software you were using?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA —

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QuickBooks 2004 Thanks

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you think it would be helpful if you told us what software you were using? I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA —

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I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA —

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I wonder if it is possible to tack accrued vacation so that company liability increases with every pay period (or every month, etc.), and reports on accrual basis show this liability, but reports on cash basis only show the vacation time actually taken and paid. TIA

Yes.

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Manufacturing Overhead.

Hello everyone, I’m trying to find the answer to this question, but it’s not in any textbook I own, and two CPA’s have given me the run around. When using Job Order Costing, do you capitalize the company’s share of payroll taxes as Direct Labor or as Manufacturing Overhead? If neither, is this simply a period expense? I’m trying to develop a job-order costing system for a small auto shop, and the difference in each method is highly material. Thanks for your help. Robert Path:

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Hello everyone, I’m trying to find the answer to this question, but it’s not in any textbook I own, and two CPA’s have given me the run around. When using Job Order Costing, do you capitalize the company’s share of payroll taxes as Direct Labor or as Manufacturing Overhead? If neither, is this simply a period expense? I’m trying to develop a job-order costing system for a small auto shop, and the difference in each method is highly material. Thanks for your help. Robert Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com !newsfeed.bcn.ttd.net!news.bcn.ttd.net!u_n_a__c_ancel Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,alt.accounting Organization: Telefonica Transmision de Datos Lines: 2 NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.77.196.2 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:40458963 autocancel

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What frosts my cookies, particularly in this newsgroup, is that we allowed ourselves to get sidetracked by these circus clowns the other side sent over to keep us distracted and from discussing the

real issues Hey Kurtz Did you get your JPC mole check yet? I got mine. Not bad money, but I think we should hold out for reuse fees for every time one of our posts get reposted. Say it with me Kurtz – you too tenth – "For as long it takes" eastgalt Before you buy.

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  "Greg Alldredge (lostnmaine)" OUCH! —

  "Greg Alldredge (lostnmaine)" Well QSC is up to $1.75 today:) — Which is great, except I bought in at $3. But Joe Battapaglia is rarely wrong, and he shouts this to eleven.

Belive me, Greg, it was a very small gamble, and the jury is still out on this. I have a lot of faith in my ability to pick a stock. Carl — Give a man a fish, and you feed him. Teach a man to fish, and he’ll drink beer and sit in a boat all day. – CASalonen Before you buy.

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konk:  We are all quite sure you are well aquainted with the unemployment

office and its various services tenth…. And you are still quite unemployed.

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kathy:  everyone should share in the just rewards for their work.

Totally unjustifiable, kat.  EveryONE should do whatever HE (ok .. or SHE) wishes to do with the just rewards of HIS (ok … or HER) work. And everyONE should keep HER (ok … or HIS) fuckin’ hands off the just rewards of THEIR work.  THOSE rewards belong to THEM.

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carl:  we allowed ourselves to get sidetracked by these circus clowns the

other side sent over Wrong, yet again, FagBoy.  I was virtually invited here by Lisa when she came whining to another newsgroup about how "unfair" the advertisers were being to the poor actors.  (I guess she meant to the good ones, as well.)

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eastgalt:  Did you get your JPC mole check yet? I got mine. Not bad money, but

I think we should hold out for reuse fees for every time one of our posts get reposted.  Say it with me Kurtz – you too tenth – "For as long it takes" For as long it takes …. or at least until it clears.

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We deserve our just rewards. We’ve earned it with our patience and fairness, and now the time has come to reap from the [ACTORS] what we sowed: good will, fair treatment, and the chance to make the astronomical amounts of money the [ACTORS] are making. Carl I completely agree with you Carl, …but it appears the other side’s position was summed up by an earlier poster who felt the word "fair" had absolutely no place in these negotiations.

we don’t feel it, we know it to be true.  if you could step outside of your narrow vision long enough to see both sides of this issue, you’d understand how relevant the word ‘fair’ is to an economic discussion.  to further illustrate my point, i’ve substituted a couple of words in deValues post.  the advertisers feel that what they are offering is fair, you feel that what they are offering is unfair.  neither feeling of fairness matters.  what matters is whether or not actors can be hired for less than your demands.  they can.  they have.  it’s over.  give up.  how much money will you lose?  how many months will you stand with a picket sign in your hand supporting the 4% of actors who actually make a good living? how long will you stand there watching canadians, south africans, british and non-union american actors taking your jobs?  is $29,000. a day really that bad?

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– www.murderdujour.com

…They talk about "free markets". This is not a free market issue, and anyone who wants to discuss the microeconomics with me (BBS Stern School of Business, NYU, Accounting major, Finance/Economics double minor, 3.8 GPA, and that’s the last time you’ll hear me toot my horn about anything…

Yea right! Still waiting on QSC by the way:)

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Yea right! Still waiting on QSC by the way:)

You and me both, buddy! But I made quite a few $ on ADVR and FLMLY. YOu could still buy into ADVR at about 0.60 a share, and I project it to go to $1.50 in a year. Carl — Give a man a fish, and you feed him. Teach a man to fish, and he’ll drink beer and sit in a boat all day. – CASalonen Before you buy.

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Well QSC is up to $1.75 today:) — www.murderdujour.com

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we don’t feel it, we know it to be true.  if you could step outside of

your narrow vision long enough to see both sides of this issue, you’d understand how

relevant the word ‘fair’ is to an economic discussion.  to further illustrate my point, i’ve

substituted a couple of words in deValues post.  the advertisers feel that what they are offering is

fair, you feel that what they are offering is unfair.  neither feeling of fairness matters.

what matters is whether or not actors can be hired for less than your demands.  they can.

they have.  it’s over.  give up.  how much money will you lose?  how many months will you

stand with a picket sign in your hand supporting the 4% of actors who actually make a good

living? how long will you stand there watching canadians, south africans, british and non-union

american actors taking your jobs?  is $29,000. a day really that bad?

brilliantly stated Kurtz Before you buy.

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It’s not fair to advertisers who are used to advertising in only three major channels to reach people and now they have to advertise on 500 channels to reach the same total audience. That’s 500 times the cost without raiseing the prices on tampons that you use everyday.

Actually Starmie, the 3 majors deliver the same audience they did in the past. The addition of new channels indicates the audience has in fact grown, residuals however haven’t. Drama Queen — "Intellectuals cause a great deal of trouble trying to do it all with the mind. It is the heart that counts."             — Louise Bogan

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Actually Starmie, the 3 majors deliver the same audience they did in

the past. The addition of new channels indicates the audience has in fact grown, residuals however haven’t.

Personally, I think the whole concept of network/cable is invalid in a nation where nearly 3/4 of the country has access to cable/sattelite TV. We should probably tier the arrangement based on total viewership. After all, isn’t this how stations set their ad rates in the first place? Carl — Give a man a fish, and you feed him. Teach a man to fish, and he’ll drink beer and sit in a boat all day. – CASalonen Before you buy.

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Well QSC is up to $1.75 today:) —

Which is great, except I bought in at $3. But Joe Battapaglia is rarely wrong, and he shouts this to eleven. Carl — Give a man a fish, and you feed him. Teach a man to fish, and he’ll drink beer and sit in a boat all day. – CASalonen Before you buy.

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OUCH! — www.murderdujour.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well QSC is up to $1.75 today:) — Which is great, except I bought in at $3. But Joe Battapaglia is rarely wrong, and he shouts this to eleven. Carl — Give a man a fish, and you feed him. Teach a man to fish, and he’ll drink beer and sit in a boat all day. – CASalonen Before you buy.

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I completely agree with you Carl, …but it appears the other side’s

position was summed up by an earlier poster who felt the word "fair" had absolutely no place

in these negotiations. What really frosts my cookies is that for years, decades even, actors’ unions have always been accomodating in negotiations, taking into account the factors

that exist and looking for ways to co-operate to foster and support the growth of fledgling industries, and the other side exploits that unconscionably. It’s shamefully outrageous! If I were an advertiser, at this point in time, I’d be ashamed to admit it.

What frosts my cookies, particularly in this newsgroup, is that we allowed ourselves to get sidetracked by these circus clowns the other side sent over to keep us distracted and from discussing the real issues of the strike. I include myself in this number. They talk about "free markets". This is not a free market issue, and anyone who wants to discuss the microeconomics with me (BBS Stern School of Business, NYU, Accounting major, Finance/Economics double minor, 3.8 GPA, and that’s the last time you’ll hear me toot my horn about anything) is welcome to nuance it. I’ll even argue from the AynRand side of things (oh, by the way, she’d probably support SAG on this, if you read her thinking on oligopolies). Let’s let the distractions pass, and keep focused here, folks. We’re in a fight. Let’s stay on target. Carl — Give a man a fish, and you feed him. Teach a man to fish, and he’ll drink beer and sit in a boat all day. – CASalonen Before you buy.

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And you don’t want the SAG on your side because they are pussies.

Unfortunately, Starmie, you’re correct on this. Where does it say people have to be fair? Is there a ‘fairness’ law?

Well, remember all those Italian kids’ bikes you stole…? We want ‘em back, Starmie…and I think you want us to be fair about it, don’tcha? Carl — Give a man a fish, and you feed him. Teach a man to fish, and he’ll drink beer and sit in a boat all day. – CASalonen Before you buy.

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I agree, everyone should share in the just rewards for their work. K.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In all the discussions on the strike in this forum, a point seems to get overlooked time and time again, one that the agencies should have their feet held closely to the fire for: This is about fairness. This is about the unions agreeing for the past twenty years to delay insisting on equitable treatment for cable residuals while cable got its collective feet underneath it, and started growing. They’re growing. This is also about not making the same mistake again with Internet commercials. We deserve our just rewards. We’ve earned it with our patience and fairness, and now the time has come to reap from the ad agencies what we sowed: good will, fair treatment, and the chance to make the astronomical amounts of money the agencies are making. Carl — Give a man a fish, and you feed him. Teach a man to fish, and he’ll drink beer and sit in a boat all day. – CASalonen Before you buy.

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carl:  This is about fairness. This is about the unions agreeing for the past

twenty years to delay insisting on equitable treatment for cable residuals If you got it in writing, then it’s about law. If you didn’t get it in writing …. it’s about stupidity. carl:  We deserve our just rewards.

To be found at the unemployment office nearest you.

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carl:  We deserve our just rewards. 10th writes: To be found at the unemployment office nearest you.

We are all quite sure you are well aquainted with the unemployment office and its various services tenth….

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Well said. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -In all the discussions on the strike in this forum, a point seems to get overlooked time and time again, one that the agencies should have their feet held closely to the fire for: This is about fairness. This is about the unions agreeing for the past twenty years to delay insisting on equitable treatment for cable residuals while cable got its collective feet underneath it, and started growing. They’re growing. This is also about not making the same mistake again with Internet commercials. We deserve our just rewards. We’ve earned it with our patience and fairness, and now the time has come to reap from the ad agencies what we sowed: good will, fair treatment, and the chance to make the astronomical amounts of money the agencies are making. Carl — Give a man a fish, and you feed him. Teach a man to fish, and he’ll drink beer and sit in a boat all day. – CASalonen Before you buy.

Ryan

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In all the discussions on the strike in this forum, a point seems to get overlooked time and time again, one that the agencies should have their feet held closely to the fire for: This is about fairness. This is about the unions agreeing for the past twenty years to delay insisting on equitable treatment for cable residuals while cable got its collective feet underneath it, and started growing. They’re growing. This is also about not making the same mistake again with Internet commercials. We deserve our just rewards. We’ve earned it with our patience and fairness, and now the time has come to reap from the ad agencies what we sowed: good will, fair treatment, and the chance to make the astronomical amounts of money the agencies are making. Carl — Give a man a fish, and you feed him. Teach a man to fish, and he’ll drink beer and sit in a boat all day. – CASalonen Before you buy.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In all the discussions on the strike in this forum, a point seems to get overlooked time and time again, one that the agencies should have their feet held closely to the fire for: This is about fairness. This is about the unions agreeing for the past twenty years to delay insisting on equitable treatment for cable residuals while cable got its collective feet underneath it, and started growing. They’re growing. This is also about not making the same mistake again with Internet commercials. We deserve our just rewards. We’ve earned it with our patience and fairness, and now the time has come to reap from the ad agencies what we sowed: good will, fair treatment, and the chance to make the astronomical amounts of money the agencies are making. Carl

I completely agree with you Carl, …but it appears the other side’s position was summed up by an earlier poster who felt the word "fair" had absolutely no place in these negotiations. What really frosts my cookies is that for years, decades even, actors’ unions have always been accomodating in negotiations, taking into account the factors that exist and looking for ways to co-operate to foster and support the growth of fledgling industries, and the other side exploits that unconscionably. It’s shamefully outrageous! If I were an advertiser, at this point in time, I’d be ashamed to admit it. Drama Queen — "Intellectuals cause a great deal of trouble trying to do it all with the mind. It is the heart that counts."             — Louise Bogan

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Brian, check out:  http://www.business-plaza.com/magtax/ We are much cheaper<g – less than 1/3 the cost of their W2… Magtax is MULTI COMPANY – unlimited. Magtax has an import utility for importing data from comma delimited files, etc. Magtax imports from QB. Magtax includes W2, 1099, and laser forms. Magtax currently costs $100 for a new user and $50 each year for the updates. We have been doing Magnetic Media since the program started in the ’80s. If we don’t support a form (we support the most used ones) we’ll ad one. Need a custom import process?  Talk to us. — Paul MacFarlane American Riviera Software Corporation http://www.business-plaza.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is a Peachtree Company Named Wizard  Business Solutions, Inc. They have a Magetic Media Program for filing W2’s for Peachtree. I have found out that last year they developed the same program for Quickbooks and Quickbooks Pro 99. Thanks For all of you input. http://www.wizard-net.com Good Day,     I am looking for a solution to filing my W2’s. I have a company with a high turnover rate. By the end of any given year I have over 250 employess with W2’s.  Is there a Quickbooks or Quickbooks Pro Solution? Thanks

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Most MAJOR accounting software have the capability, however since payroll has become such a mundane clerical task it is often more cost effective to use ADP or a bank or similar payroll service. This is especially true in large organizations because of the amount of work involved preparing, filing and depsoiting particularly where serveral states are involved. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is a Peachtree Company Named Wizard  Business Solutions, Inc. They have a Magetic Media Program for filing W2’s for Peachtree. I have found out that last year they developed the same program for Quickbooks and Quickbooks Pro 99. Thanks For all of you input. http://www.wizard-net.com Good Day,     I am looking for a solution to filing my W2’s. I have a company with a high turnover rate. By the end of any given year I have over 250 employess with W2’s.  Is there a Quickbooks or Quickbooks Pro Solution? Thanks

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Brian, I just read your posting regarding W-2 processing and your need to file magnetically; also, the response from another reader regarding ADP’s ability to assist you. I work for ADP, and would be glad to forward more information if you would like. Loren McClaflin 1-800-829-2110 ext. 6552

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Most MAJOR accounting software have the capability, however since payroll has become such a mundane clerical task it is often more cost effective to use ADP or a bank or similar payroll service. This is especially true in large organizations because of the amount of work involved preparing, filing and depsoiting particularly where serveral states are involved. There is a Peachtree Company Named Wizard  Business Solutions, Inc. They have a Magetic Media Program for filing W2’s for Peachtree. I have found out that last year they developed the same program for Quickbooks and Quickbooks Pro 99. Thanks For all of you input. http://www.wizard-net.com Good Day,     I am looking for a solution to filing my W2’s. I have a company with a high turnover rate. By the end of any given year I have over 250 employess with W2’s.  Is there a Quickbooks or Quickbooks Pro Solution? Thanks

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There is a Peachtree Company Named Wizard  Business Solutions, Inc. They have a Magetic Media Program for filing W2’s for Peachtree. I have found out that last year they developed the same program for Quickbooks and Quickbooks Pro 99. Thanks For all of you input. http://www.wizard-net.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Good Day,     I am looking for a solution to filing my W2’s. I have a company with a high turnover rate. By the end of any given year I have over 250 employess with W2’s.  Is there a Quickbooks or Quickbooks Pro Solution? Thanks

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Brian, Check out MAGTAX at http://www.business-plaza.com/magtax/ — Paul MacFarlane American Riviera Software Corporation http://www.business-plaza.com   Don,       I only have ten to 15 employees working at one time. Quickbooks Pro 99  allows me to print the W-2’s but according to federal Gov. I have to file my W-2’s on magnetic media.   Payroll is currently handled in Quickbooks Pro 99.  Checks are printed weekly.  I use Turbo Tax for the end of the year filing. I have a full time employee handling the payroll.   Thanks   Brian     Brian,     How are you handling payroll now?  How are checks issued and 941 deposits calculated and returns filed?  With 250 employees my guess is you have to be using a software package because handling that volume manually would be a full time job, (or perhaps two FTE’s).  The package you are using should be capable of printing the W-2’s at year end and they should be sending information on ordering the forms for year end.  If not give them a call.     HTH     Don       Regards,       Donald A Haney, MBA       Emergency Care Specialists, PC       "Learning occurs in the mind, independent of time and place." – Plato       Good Day,           I am looking for a solution to filing my W2’s. I have a company with a       high turnover rate. By the end of any given year I have over 250 employess       with W2’s.  Is there a Quickbooks or Quickbooks Pro Solution?       Thanks

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Good Day,    I am looking for a solution to filing my W2’s. I have a company with a high turnover rate. By the end of any given year I have over 250 employess with W2’s.  Is there a Quickbooks or Quickbooks Pro Solution? Thanks

Recommend you use a Payroll service; go with a local firm who provide good responsiveness on telephone, by fax AND by email or web form.  It’s nuts to have an unresponsive payroll service. I look forward to the day when individual employees have the ability to maintain their own HR records permanently on internet hosts or ASPs (HR application service providers). This will give you continuity of all benefits plans, recordkeeping etc. while providing employers only information appropriate for them to know, while keeping certain health or personal information private. Nothing is really stopping this from happening in the near term. Most employers would LOVE to have a single invoice monthly, showing them a wage/benefits/payroll tax items at low costs. Naturally, as companies get more familiar and comfortable with webledgers and other accounting ASP models, we’ll see services like this explode in fifty niches at the same time. The single most critical missing piece to a global interconnection of our accounting processes is some type of linking tables on the internet.  Those of you who have done database  work will relate to this:  how do you maintain relations between two tables having many-to-many relations?  Answer: a linking table with keys into both tables. The tables I am talking about are those accounts in your system which have counterparts in the ledgers of other companies: your cashin bank, AR and AP, Sales, Expenses… hey! almost all of them. Today here is what            And here is what the YOU do:                       Other guy does    DEBIT                      CREDIT    CREDIT                     DEBIT Tomorrow, this is what you will do:    DEBIT    CREDIT  - and send a copy of the credit row to the linking table,              including the ID of the bank or trading partner or    DEBIT  - and send a copy of the debit row to the linking table,              including the ID of the bank or trading partner    CREDIT .. and the other guy will view and approve your entry, with their web TV, by dragging and dropping it onto the APPROVE icon during commercials. GAAP double entry accounting is the only model in existence for e-commerce and it’s a great little technology. Too bad accountants don’t realize it.   By itself, a Webledger is cool, but not persuasive.  http://www.Netledger.com for example, is a brilliant webledger.  But it lacks intercompany transactions.  Its a standalone G/L on the internet What businesses really needs is: http://www.gldialtone.com/smallbus.htm These can be achieved much more readily on a few thousand professionally- managed webledger hosts than fifty million independent secure hosts in every home and business. (Note: I am not selling ANYTHING.  I am a pundit and observer.) Everybody and their brother is selling e-commerce solutions that are incomplete, unreconciled bookkeeping disasters, and usually blatant lock-ins. What’s needed is really a simple, lowest-common-denominator way to submit a transaction to untrusted 3rd parties for them to review and post to their own ledger.   Double entry accounting is the only comprehensive model for describing commerce in the real world, which is *widely understood* and has a large workforce ready to use it.  Sooner or later, all the dot-coms come home to daddy (GAAP double entry accounting) TOdd * Todd F. Boyle CPA    http://www.GLDialtone.com/ * 9745-128th Av NE, Kirkland WA 98033       (425) 827-3107 * XML accounting, web ledger, ASP, GL Dialtone, whatever.

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Don,     I only have ten to 15 employees working at one time. Quickbooks Pro 99  allows me to print the W-2’s but according to federal Gov. I have to file my W-2’s on magnetic media. Payroll is currently handled in Quickbooks Pro 99.  Checks are printed weekly.  I use Turbo Tax for the end of the year filing. I have a full time employee handling the payroll. Thanks Brian   Brian,   How are you handling payroll now?  How are checks issued and 941 deposits calculated and returns filed?  With 250 employees my guess is you have to be using a software package because handling that volume manually would be a full time job, (or perhaps two FTE’s).  The package you are using should be capable of printing the W-2’s at year end and they should be sending information on ordering the forms for year end.  If not give them a call.   HTH   Don     Regards,     Donald A Haney, MBA     Emergency Care Specialists, PC     "Learning occurs in the mind, independent of time and place." – Plato     Good Day,         I am looking for a solution to filing my W2’s. I have a company with a     high turnover rate. By the end of any given year I have over 250 employess     with W2’s.  Is there a Quickbooks or Quickbooks Pro Solution?     Thanks

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Brian, I see the problem now.  I would check with Quickbooks Pro to see if they have the capability to file the W-2’s electronically.  I’m not familiar with that program so I can’t offer much help there.  My only other suggestion would be to print the W-2’s to disk in a text format and then use another program to put the data into the format required by the IRS if necessary. I’m pretty confident that Quickbooks would be able to print to disk so the real problem here is what are the formatting requirements, if any, from the IRS for the digital data.  Check with your CPA they may be able to help you determine what the formatting  needs are.  I would then consider upgrading to a software package that can handle this in the future but I’m sure your already considering that option.  You may even have time to convert this years data to an upgraded Quickbooks version that is fully capable. Good Luck, sorry I couldn’t be more helpful. Don   Regards,   Donald A Haney, MBA   Emergency Care Specialists, PC   "Learning occurs in the mind, independent of time and place." – Plato   Don,       I only have ten to 15 employees working at one time. Quickbooks Pro 99 allows me to print the W-2’s but according to federal Gov. I have to file my W-2’s on magnetic media.   Payroll is currently handled in Quickbooks Pro 99.  Checks are printed weekly.  I use Turbo Tax for the end of the year filing. I have a full time employee handling the payroll.   Thanks   Brian     Brian,     How are you handling payroll now?  How are checks issued and 941 deposits calculated and returns filed?  With 250 employees my guess is you have to be using a software package because handling that volume manually would be a full time job, (or perhaps two FTE’s).  The package you are using should be capable of printing the W-2’s at year end and they should be sending information on ordering the forms for year end.  If not give them a call.     HTH     Don       Regards,       Donald A Haney, MBA       Emergency Care Specialists, PC       "Learning occurs in the mind, independent of time and place." – Plato       Good Day,           I am looking for a solution to filing my W2’s. I have a company with a       high turnover rate. By the end of any given year I have over 250 employess       with W2’s.  Is there a Quickbooks or Quickbooks Pro Solution?       Thanks

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Good Day,    I am looking for a solution to filing my W2’s. I have a company with a high turnover rate. By the end of any given year I have over 250 employess with W2’s.  Is there a Quickbooks or Quickbooks Pro Solution? Thanks

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Brian, How are you handling payroll now?  How are checks issued and 941 deposits calculated and returns filed?  With 250 employees my guess is you have to be using a software package because handling that volume manually would be a full time job, (or perhaps two FTE’s).  The package you are using should be capable of printing the W-2’s at year end and they should be sending information on ordering the forms for year end.  If not give them a call. HTH Don   Regards,   Donald A Haney, MBA   Emergency Care Specialists, PC   "Learning occurs in the mind, independent of time and place." – Plato   Good Day,       I am looking for a solution to filing my W2’s. I have a company with a   high turnover rate. By the end of any given year I have over 250 employess   with W2’s.  Is there a Quickbooks or Quickbooks Pro Solution?   Thanks

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Good Day,     I am looking for a solution to filing my W2’s. I have a company with a high turnover rate. By the end of any given year I have over 250 employess with W2’s.  Is there a Quickbooks or Quickbooks Pro Solution? Thanks

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That is what Payroll Service Bureaus are for! James C Wright, CPA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Good Day,     I am looking for a solution to filing my W2’s. I have a company with a high turnover rate. By the end of any given year I have over 250 employess with W2’s.  Is there a Quickbooks or Quickbooks Pro Solution? Thanks

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Does anyone know if it’s OK to take TWO of the main medications at one go? For instance, could one take both Risperdal AND Zyprexa? I would ask the mental health professionals, but having just got them off my back I don’t really want to contact them. Incidentally, they have approved me as being one hundred percent OK and fit to hand back to the doctor and no need of further help from them! HUH!  Shows how clever I am for sure! I convinced them that it was the rest of the world that was insane and not me and they believed me! Michelle

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Hi I was prescribed two meds at once by my pdoc. I was on a low dose of haldol and seroquel at the same time.  I took the haldol during the day and the seroquel at night.   I liked that combo because I had energy during the day and slept well at night. I wouldn’t just take two different meds on my own though, you might end up with more side effects that way. penguin

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I "ve been thinking. I need a roady/manager/agent/ to help me make money. I don’t drive. I play guitar. If I had somebody to help me get to gigs I could make some money. I’ve even come up with a few percentages  for how to cut the money up between us. Yeah so it seems I should put an add in the personals for help but all the personals are for hooking up with dates. Does anybody know of some service that help me find someone in the nearby area, Trenton and vicinity, who would want to go have some fun and share the excitement and make a little money Its possible that if I tin cupped it at Atlantic city I could make a couple hundred. If what I hear is true. They supposedly encourage street musicians there. I understand New York is a good place too.. But all the details I don’t know. I’d like the Roady/Manager/spiritual advisor/agent type person to stay by me. Look important. Snap a few pictures. Test the sound if I’m amplified, watch my gear while I run to the bathroom. etc. Where can I find such a person? So if anybody has any ideas for locating such a person online, lemme know. The thing is I have no idea what kind of money I can make but am told such tincup arrangements pay well. Any ideas? http://community.webtv.net/damodara/MystoryasIseeit

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I suppose that location means a lot. Like if I was in a touristy place and had a place to play I could probably make out real good. But even if so I’d need to have a residence, someplace to keep my equiptment safe. See I don’t have eighty zillion friends around here. Just a few. And everybody has their own lives to live. My one friend, volunteered to me the other day as we drove back from a little "escape" up river and walking around, she would take me to Atlantic City. This was after we had dropped in on a shop owner I know up in one of the "touristy places" along the Delaware. He explained that the town discourages music. Need all kinds of permits and stuff. Blocking up the sidewalk and all is a no-no. He then continued speaking of Atlantic City where "street musicians" are encouraged to play along the boardwalk. So……….she then pulled out a "someday" on me. "Someday. I told her that sounded very bad. Someyime after the first she said in response. The effect this leaves me with is that my self image is taking a beating. Seems to me, we should set plans. Instead I am left hanging. I don’t like this. I feel I’m being treated in a condescending manner. This one friend , another one,  who had been going along with the program and seemingly enjoying the attention and the fanfare that goes along with it. It was working rather well. But then she "figured out my problems" and knew just how I should change, take meds, stop drinking, don’t play bars, Then she even went into how I am a burden on my friends, and turned aginst me concerning my discussions with Social Security. So………I don’t want someone around me who undermines me like that. For a special event or gig I might ask her for a ride. But oh no, when someone turns on me like that I have never seen them change back. Never in all my days. To me, being a guitar player is a way of life, a lifestyle and, to me, I see it as a place where I don’t have to compromise a twit. I know this sounds self defeating but I won’t hand over "the good" of being independent and autonomous  for a compromised social situation where I am "the child" and my helper the "the adult". Whats agrevating is my current feelings towards my friend who recently volunteered to do Atlantic City with me. We were talking a very big percentage incidently. Do I want to incorporate with someone who be serious in her dealings? Who leaves me hanging? Who isn’t enthused about it? She would go lay on the beach with some as yet unnamed person while I play. Other people I know are simply involved in their own lives. So my not compromising the sincereity of my feelings and preserving this "guitar player path" , I am winding up with being a guitar player who rarely performs. I’m not a guitar player unless I play guitar for people. So for now, I sit here and pinch pennies, and stay alone, and make no money. I stopped playing the old mill because of the stresses it was placing on pour relationship. I needed a ride. And she started whining and moaning about it. So I let it go. I felt it was poisoning the good I see as a guitar player. I intend to preserve my autonomy concerning my music. I don’t have to let in the exact feelings and attitudes that I see Guitar enables me to transcend. I don’t have to let in any "headshit". Its the one place where I can preserve my autonomy and not become involved in emotional compromises and sell outs. I go out, I play, I have good times and fun. Thats it. I share my music joyfully and upbeat, happy. Thats my plan. There’s a gloom over the Atlantic City thing now. She said, "You’re just like a little boy now this is all that you’re going to talk about until we go" This was in response to my saying, "We’ll discus this on Sunday or monday, dates, and times and percentage cuts." See that air she blew on me? I don’t want that on my music. http://community.webtv.net/damodara/MystoryasIseeit

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damod…@webtv.net wrote:  meaningfull things

Hi Damo. You play very well guitar. People in America have a liberal way of life.  The only meaning they find to life is to make money, for them, their wife, their kids… You think you want to make money, but actually you want to jump on board  of that huge ship where they feast.  I mean, i think you want to play guitar and only play guitar. They don’t see it that way however.  It’s not possible to play on the guitar for a living. I think you get the point. You’re a good guitar-player, Mr Damo. They are poor dreamers.  That’s all. M is the name of a male artist in France who sings with a high octave voice. He is allways talking about the schizophrenia in art.  I’m not setting this up. He’s being quite a succes by now. Nevertheless don’t let them get you down on that stuff. Nicely. DrenKa.

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In LA, you need an artists’ permit to set up shop on the sidewalk. The wait list for a permit runs into the multiples of years, just like HUD housing Voucher waiting lists. But it never (hardly ever) rains in So Cal between April and October, and you’ll be choking on dust and smog. They (the TV/radio) tell people to stay indoors when the air is bad. If you smoke or have lots of pets in your apartment, the air could be MUCH worse indoors than outside though. If you had a real band out there, and you wanted to play in a club that is packed every night; well the club is packed every night because every band breaks the "No Flyers" Law and leaves thousands of flyers for their upcoming gig around the ground by passing them out to strangers (who immediately dump the flyers within a block or two) within the week or two before the gig. How did they get the club space you ask? They have a thing called "Pay To Play", where the band pays $500 to $1000 (or more) to the club owner as a booking deposit; and the band wins it back at the door (a percentage of the entry fee) on gig night. So, entry might be $5 to $15 per person, and the band might get a third to half of that. The club has a limit to the number of persons allowed into the club per order of the Fire Marshall, and that doesn’t include strange clothing! It’s a total freak show when the customers arrive, if they care to arrive. I was too broke to take a night out like that, but I did pass by the lines of people waiting to go into the club…and I was terrified about not fitting in, why bother anyway?

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The band doesn’t actually get their $500 to $1000 (or more) booking deposit back; the club owner keeps it.

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Hi Cymbalman There is a local hot spot that does something similar to what you describe happens in L.A. . Its a big place. They took over one of the pld redbrick steel factories on the rivers edge here in Trenton, they have patio space and outdoor areas corralled in by factory walls they left standing. No roof though. It directly over looks the river. Beautiful. Of course you don’t want to sit out on the patio during low tide because the exposed river mud has an odor that makes people want to move inland as fast as possible. Quickly as possible too. I don’t know the details but its something like, the band rents one of the showcase rooms on an off night and there is a door fee. If the band draws then they make money. If they don’t draw, then they lose money. The club has to hire help to man the bars and hire bouncers and hire waitreeses. So they will go along with the band if the band can assure them they won’t lose money on it. Yes I believe the band has to give upfront money. Its on an "off night". Wednesday night or tuesday night. On their big nights of course they want no competition to the bands they pay to come in. Usually the patio area is where they put the big names.. With the low tide river stench wafting over the enthused college kids. Big river. To me, it dominates the whole area. Its quite significant, the Delaware. Of course I suspect most folks hardly notice it. The river does it right back. The river hardly notices the people. L.A. is too far to go, thanks for idea however. Damo http://community.webtv.net/damodara/MystoryasIseeit

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Is there no way you can buy a car for yourself?  I once sold a car that still ran good for only $500.  That car would go anywhere but I didn’t like the stick shift and there was no A/C. <damod…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:24418-4108F49B-229@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I "ve been thinking. > I need a roady/manager/agent/ to help me make money. > I don’t drive. I play guitar. If I had somebody to help me get to gigs I > could make some money. > I’ve even come up with a few percentages  for how to cut the money up > between us. > Yeah so it seems I should put an add in the personals for help but all > the personals are for hooking up with dates. > Does anybody know of some service that help me find someone in the > nearby area, Trenton and vicinity, who would want to go have some fun > and share the excitement and make a little money > Its possible that if I tin cupped it at Atlantic city I could make a > couple hundred. If what I hear is true. They supposedly encourage street > musicians there. > I understand New York is a good place too.. But all the details I don’t > know. > I’d like the Roady/Manager/spiritual advisor/agent type person to stay > by me. > Look important. Snap a few pictures. > Test the sound if I’m amplified, watch my gear while I run to the > bathroom. etc. > Where can I find such a person? > So if anybody has any ideas for locating such a person online, lemme > know. > The thing is I have no idea what kind of money I can make but am told > such tincup arrangements pay well. > Any ideas? > http://community.webtv.net/damodara/MystoryasIseeit

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"Just Me" <thecli…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:BlgOc.2438$cK.2130@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net… | Is there no way you can buy a car for yourself?  I once sold a car that still ran good for only $500.  That car would go anywhere but I didn’t like the stick shift and there was no A/C. You can’t buy a car if you can’t buy your meat How can you buy your meat if you can’t buy a car? PS: milk spoils in 10 minutes at 90 degrees.

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My budget after rent, phone, ISP and laundry quarters is about 250 a month. I haven’t had milk for weeks, I am out of bread for about two weeks, I am trying to make the toilet paper last until tuesday. Today I ran out of coffee. I am using drips of dish detergent to wash dishes as that is down to last drips. I am out of mouth wash. The good news is I’ll be getting foodstamps, so they say, thats they said on July three but they have been mute. I’m getting county to pick up medicare payments that means another 66 a month. And I believe they said I qualified for about 50 bucks of SSI a month. So…….in September or October I’ll get arrearage checks for the money still being taken for medicare and arrearage checks for SSI.  I can’t wait. Its hard being hungry. I go to a food pantriry. I AIN’T working, I’m going to put my self or others through that anymore. See I was making a dollar now and then with my guitar but…….. There was an issue so I stopped. I won’t go into right here. Buy a cheap car? Yeah sure. I can’t even buy pants currently. This check buys a pair of dungarees. I’ve got stuff I should sell. I have a muzzel loader shotgun up in the attic. Newspapers from the 1700s wiren in funny fonts, stuff like that. Antique cathederal radio up there. Everyone is dead so there’s no reason to hoard it any longer. I could play, maybe, if I tried to sell myself to few places. I only need about twenty extra a week and I’d be able to catch buses and perform. See but its hot. I’d sweat too much. I only play day gigs as a single performer. And if I spend the money for the bus I will get into trouble financially. So….I don’t choose to risk it. I’ll wait for October. That’ll mean foodstamps and I think an extra hundred a month. Add to that the arearage monies and I’ll be back in business., able to ride on buses and afford to have clean clothes. I’ll call the election and campaign headquarters for the democrats soon. And there is a chance for a tin cup gig down town next friday. On "payday", thats tuesday, I could grab a bus and my guitar and get an okay from someone for Friday. I was going out with a friend and we would always stop for a bite. I felt it was important to ensure my social security so I allowed the expense. But her attitude has gone too far. No more rides in the car and stop for restaurant food. That will mean a lot. I know far better days are coming as I have never been better on the instrument. I played several hours yesterday for example. I will update "Disinherited" and sell it for johnnie cheapo prrices to those who had bought the original. And I need a new one, mid priced range . I’m thinking of making it of my "favorites". I put a lot of time in at the old mill and I have matured significantly with the songs and the instrument. And I’ll be playing for the Democrats. Hopefully. I’ll be fine. If I didn’t catch a bad case of zombies I would have been able to much better turning a some money tricks with my guitar. http://community.webtv.net/damodara/MystoryasIseeit

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Hi Again, (Just

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In Australia there is an organisation called ‘Teletask’ which is set up to organise teletasking – or working via internet etc.  it is in it’s early days but seems to be going somewhere.  Perhaps you have something similiar over there.

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Hi I know this may sound strange but I have found that a lot of small construction type companies needing office work and sometimes the companies can be very flexible with a schedule or even with where the work gets done. The smaller companies seem to need help with paperwork and organization.good luck!

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Dorine Newman wrote: > In Australia there is an organisation called ‘Teletask’ which is set > up to > organise teletasking – or working via internet etc.  it is in it’s > early > days but seems to be going somewhere.  Perhaps you have something > similiar > over there.

Not yet.  Kind of behind the times.  I’ll just keep plugging along. Thanks Cheryl cc…@shaw.wave.ca

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KCDockal wrote:

(snip) > I’m not.  I did for a long time.  But I’m not now.  I help "run the > household" now – it sounds like something of value but most days it > really doesn’t feel like it.  I get constant lectures from my hubby > about all things that would be going wrong with my body *again* if I > were working full time again (not to mention the multiple naps a day). > And all the reminders of how good it has been for my daughter to have > a mom that actually is here for her when she has an asthma attack, > etc.

Oh I agree — I stayed at home until my daughter was seven.  Always felt like I wasn’t contributing, yet once its reasoned out then you know that you are more than contributing.  I know, still doesn’t help at times, but hang in there because your making a big difference and a very important one at that.  But if your daughter wasn’t at the age where she needs a full-time mom, would you think that the best route to go would be to work at home where you are in control of how many hours and when you will work?  Unfortunately, I do wish there was some sort of help out there for people who are trying to get going as opposed to going on benefits. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know of others trying to do what you are doing.  I have a fantasy > about actually selling some of my writing someday (no I’m not this > opinionated in my writing!)   Hubby and I have a *small* home business > that doesn’t really bring tons of money in but doesn’t lose money > either so.  If you have been working you and feel you would possibly > qualify for SSDI or SSI then I would suggest you look up old posts on > this subject on Deja News and then consult with a social security > lawyer to see if this might be a route you can go.  But it’s difficult > to get there especially if you can work out of the home and get some > income that way.  I have long been considering typing manuscripts for > others as a source of income but as yet I don’t have time.  Ultimately > I have this little prayer that when my daughter has gone on to college > I will go back to work as a lab tech part time.

Actually, I’m from Canada — don’t think we have anything like that. However, now that my kids are older I do need something to do or else I’ll just feel sorry for myself, so I guess it doesn’t matter if there is or isn’t any benefit program. > my .02 – though I’m sure it didn’t help much. > Good luck and take care, > kc cat > kdoc…@ghg.net > posted

Cheryl email: cc…@shaw.wave.ca

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Hi! I’d be interested in hearing how people are making a living. Personally, I find it extremely difficult to work an entire day without have a nap.  And, those times I do — its right to bed after work and that’s for the entire night.  Unfortunately, we cannot afford to have me not work, so I’ve been trying to have companies use me as a secretarial/bookkeeper/administrator telecommuter — this is very difficult to get them to do, at least where I live.  I am extremely well equipped with 2 pentium computers (1 for backup), scanner, color printer, laser printer, dedicated fax line, e-mail, all the office programs, etc.  The problem is companies want me to work at their office.  Out of 150 letters I now have one potential client, and am very excited about it.  Hopefully, I’ll be able to get a few more. Anyway, what are others doing? Cheryl

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BWAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHHAAH oh… Sorry Cheryl. I’m not.  I did for a long time.  But I’m not now.  I help "run the household" now – it sounds like something of value but most days it really doesn’t feel like it.  I get constant lectures from my hubby about all things that would be going wrong with my body *again* if I were working full time again (not to mention the multiple naps a day). And all the reminders of how good it has been for my daughter to have a mom that actually is here for her when she has an asthma attack, etc. I know of others trying to do what you are doing.  I have a fantasy about actually selling some of my writing someday (no I’m not this opinionated in my writing!)   Hubby and I have a *small* home business that doesn’t really bring tons of money in but doesn’t lose money either so.  If you have been working you and feel you would possibly qualify for SSDI or SSI then I would suggest you look up old posts on this subject on Deja News and then consult with a social security lawyer to see if this might be a route you can go.  But it’s difficult to get there especially if you can work out of the home and get some income that way.  I have long been considering typing manuscripts for others as a source of income but as yet I don’t have time.  Ultimately I have this little prayer that when my daughter has gone on to college I will go back to work as a lab tech part time. my .02 – though I’m sure it didn’t help much.   Good luck and take care, kc cat kdoc…@ghg.net posted – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:43:33 GMT, Cheryl <Chan…@shaw.wave.ca> wrote: >Hi! >I’d be interested in hearing how people are making a living.

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Telecommuting work does exist so don’t give up.  I’ve been getting odd bits of data entry, forms set up, straight office admin and accounting book keeping work.  I’ve now been offered 8 hours a week doing admin stuff.  This is all via the net.  So keep plugging at it, once you get one response more will happen.

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Doreen wrote: > Telecommuting work does exist so don’t give up.  I’ve been getting odd > bits > of data entry, forms set up, straight office admin and accounting book > keeping work.  I’ve now been offered 8 hours a week doing admin > stuff.  This > is all via the net.  So keep plugging at it, once you get one response > more > will happen.

Doreen, Thank you for the encouraging words.  I have a Manager of an Insurance Company coming over on Friday to give me some work as a test run.  He feels there could be quite a bit sent my way as their secretary will only work part-time mornings, and I know many programs that they don’t have anyone operating.  I had the option of working afternoons in their office or at home. The only way I received that work is through sending my resume out. I’ve decided to continue doing that in hopes that I spark an interest with another couple of companies.  It would make such a difference in my life to continue to be productive and make an income.  Not only that, I’ve also noticed that I’m able to do some work even when I’m sick; yet I could not do the same thing if I was in an office.  I wonder if its the knowing I can stop and rest anytime that makes the difference.  Or, if its because I feel so much more comfortable and relaxed when I’m working at home, or both.  Whatever, it does make a difference to me emotionally and physically to be able to do this. Cheryl

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Re: Christs with Amnesia e:  Only a concern that with every thread the topic degenerates into personal attacks and negative comments about one or more of the posters.  There is no claim that my activity doesn’t do likewise, but sometimes it just bothers me enough to where i comment.  i don’t know the solution; it seems to be the nature of the medium. Empath rk:  Not my fault, its the medium eh?  Empath, isn’t that a rather convenient sidestep from the taking of responsibility for one’s personal contributions to these internet newsgroups?

e:  If we both dropped out of the groups the groups themselves would still be a flamefest. rk:  Where is the group if not for the illusion of you and me? Yours is a demonstration of misdirection, is it not?  Your dualistic intellect projects the "many" out of the "one." then draws attention (much like the magician’s grand sweep of the misdirecting hand) to the negating of the illusory "two" out of the illusory "many" to intimate that a change has taken place. In fact no change has occurred at all.  The "eternal WHAT IS" has merely been rearranged with a preponderance of energy going to the misdirector.  Is not this the fundamental technique used by clever mind controllers who may then create a divided world of "Haves and Have Nots?"   e:  The medium survives on negativity.  Without it interest would die.  The blame cannot be placed at any one person’s feet. rk:  The blame lies at the feet of the deceptive one who is the author of such negativity.  You have just described the essence of the power-oriented dualistic consciouness, have you not? rk;  This glaring glitch of the Internet of allowing one to avoid responsibility for one’s words and conduct on the public internet is the underlying issue which is at the core of the present "conspiracy to libel" complaint lodged by me against the AFAB Bullies with the FBI.  Its intention is to hold all who participate on the Internet newsgroups responsible for their personal words and actions.

e:  Take note of the present activity in China in attempting to do exactly as you advocate.  They will fail. rk:  China is merely one of many "exclusive clubs" with a membership consisting of human beings whose consciousness has been conditioned (cultured) and labeled as "Chinese." e:   There will be other nations to try. They too will fail.   rk:  Just as China is an exclusive club, so is the USA. Russia, and all nations whose thought based structure causes separation from the whole of humanity . e:  The internet is part of a worldwide technology that cannot be controlled by any one nation.  Are you going to advocate that all nations unite in order to provide identification to each user, allowing quick identification and accounting to that united world for their words?  This, Ray, will come. rk:  Now you’re being cute, are you not?  You peer through your distorted, dualistic consciousness, see only the portion that your conditioning allows you to see, then project it outwardly as the "whole," but according to another’s words, not your own. Thats call irresponsibility.   By the time this post makes the rounds, YOUR COMMENTS will appear as direct quotes which are attributed to me.  Can you say d-e-c-e-p-t-i-o-n? e: The time for games is through.  Ray, there is something that is going  on here. rk:  You bet there is, and it’s not what it appears to be. e:   While you are concentrating on the cinder in my eye, here is something you are not seeing that is bigger than any NWO conspiracy than you have ever imagined.  The nations and rulers are never going to give support for any man, group of men, or nation to take control of them and the world.  Only war would accomplish such. rk:  You are correct as it presently manifests in the conditioned consciousness of mankind. e:   The next world system is not going to be by man, though it will come from man. The momentum is set and there is no turning back. rk:  That is the crisis I have been writing about for the last three years on the Internet.  You speak of it in terms of a political crisis, while I see it as a spiritual crisis.  Your momentum will lead to a bloody political revolution with vast numbers of lives lost, mine to a bloodless spiritual reconciliation with supreme intelligence.   e:  No nation will resist for they won’t realize they have given up their authority until they admit with a unified voice saying "Who can stand against it", nor would they want to, for their new "ruler" will have the authority and the ability to monitor every man, woman and child that takes up the identification that marks them.  Without that ID, there will be no commerce, no buying or selling.  Every economic system will be stamped, every transaction, every word,  every promise, and every bit of resistance will be recorded with every one held accountable for their actions.  This ruler is not man, but he bears a man’s ID, for he is created by man, imperfect to the third degree, falling short of a perfect seven.  This ruler, not being man, can only be called a beast. A disgusting system standing in the place of a Kingdom reserved for a rightful heir.  Consider the rapid progress of the last few years, and the speed with which this ruler gains authority. e:   Ray, your new world ruler is TECHNOLOGY, tied together in a manner that no world power can overcome, nor will they want to. The internet has already achieved a stature stronger than any nation can control, and the internet is only the play toy of the greater technologies already in place. rk:  See what I mean about making statements and applying responsiblity for them to another.  I have given the answer to stopping the momentum you describe many times on the net, but the constant noise of distractors such as yourself has been able to misdirect attention away from it.  That is the sole purpose of disinformation agents, is it not? rk:  The present momentum on these groups is a mockery and a subversion of our Constitutional Rights to Free Speech.  When organized groups such as the AFAB bullies and/or other media-government-intelligence shills/disinformation agents are allowed to irresponsibly carry on  an unimpeded clear momentum of persecution, ridicule, denigration, libel, distortion, and character assassination of others, the continuance of a viable, orderly society is at serious risk.

e: Ray, Empath is a product of the thing you find most disgusting, filthy and vile. rk:  I challenge you to find in any of my many posts a single example where I have used the words, "disgusting, filthy and vile."   Those are your words, not mine. e:  Empath appeared from midst of what you find the most contemptible group of people on the net. rk:  Again, "contemptible" is your word, not mine.  If they appear to be that which you have labeled "contemptible," it is the corruption of "WHAT IS," which they personify, that has allowed you to perceive them as such. e:   Empath appeared with the AFA-B Bullies as you’ve named them with a message that you can only see through humility.  The mirror is turned toward you.  My time left is short, with everyday being only a maybe. rk:  Sounds like some media disinformation agents see the writing on the wall and are in fear of losing their positions eh?  tim hill does this quite regularly, does he not? e:   Perhaps if your health and good fortune continues you will live to see the sign I offer.  You may live to see the near death of the worlds technology, an event that will herald a renewed growth in giving new life to a beast that doesn’t breath.  An event that will prompt every ruler on the face of the earth to grant greater authority and power than has ever been given a ruler. Let technologies "death" serve as a sign that the world is entering a time of restricted rights unlike any time before. rk:  What bullshit!!  Technology is a dead thing.  It will never rule the living spirit of intelligence.  Through unawareness, however, it can engender fear and doubt in the gullible, the impotent, the codependent, the blind believer!  Let the conditioned masses wake up from their hypnotic slumber and retrieve the monies which they have voluntarily relinquished into the hands of the banking money handlers and the governmental rule makers, and these illusory institutions with all their so-called "power" will dry up and disintegrate INSTANTLY. rk:  That’s the first step to a New Consciousness for mankind on this earth.  It is a DIVINE ANARCHY, if you will.  It is not to be found in the fictional, power-oriented, exclusive clubs of national sovereignty, but in the actuality and freedom  of personal human sovereignty.                                      Ray karczewski Empath E-mail Group or read on the web. Philosophies of Higher Consciousness http://www.egroups.com/list/higher-consciousness/ Personal Miracles http://www.eGroups.com/list/my-miracle/ The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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rk:  In this post I have combined two posts issued by kenneth in order to focus reader attention upon the clear momentum which underlies ken’s words.  To be aware is to pay attention to momentum, for it is there where truth is told.  Is the unfolding momentum a clear exposition of what is, or merely a twisting of words designed to create and perpetuate dualistic debate?   rk:  The present momentum on these groups is a mockery and a subversion of our Constitutional Rights to Free Speech.  When organized groups such as the AFAB bullies and/or other media-government-intelligence shills/disinformation agents are allowed to irresponsibly carry on  an unimpeded clear momentum of persecution, ridicule, denigration, libel, distortion, and character assassination of others, the continuance of a viable, orderly society is at serious risk.

ken: You know rk, this is exactly what you are doing. You are attempting to curtail the free speech of what you libelously call the AFAB bullies, as well as those organizations which you mention. rk:  Aside from revealing the flaw of language when used solely at the spiritually bereft but well defined letter of the word dualistic level of communication, you pridefully expose a conditioned ego well versed in twisting perceptions via learned techniques of projected psychological misdirection, do you not? The simple and easily observable fact is that I am holding individuals and institutions alike, responsible for their words and actions (or lack thereof), am I not? ken:  You yourself  quote: "irresponsibly carry on an unimpeded clear momentum of persecution, ridicule, denigration, libel, distortion, and character assassination of others". ken: This is exactly what you are doing with the ‘AFAB bullies’, and to persons on other newsgroups. As well as to ’serious’ people who ask you serious questions. rk:  Then perhaps you will "seriously" back up that statement with evidence which will withstand close scrutiny.  That which has been said by me, which now rests in the hands of the FBI regarding the AFAB bullies, is substantiated in the hundreds of articles one may find in the Deja News Archives.  The evidence is quite overwhelming and cannot be disputed with the mere empty rhetoric of sloganish one-liners. ken:  You have called me: a hypocrite, compensating bullshitter, one who is confused and limited in consciousness, a half baked psychic vampire. Libelous or what? rk:  If it’s true, it’s not libelous, is it?  I stand by all that I have said. ken: And yes I have called you names as well.    So sue me.  :-) If you want my full name and address etc. let me know. TIA rk:  Your momentum betrays you.  Yours is the definite energy of a dualistic game player.   ken  And to further quote you: "the continuance of a viable, orderly society is at serious risk." The usenet is one of these societies, which is at serious risk of individuals and organizations who are trying to control the content and free speech of individuals. rk:  An irresponsible society is a self-destructive society.  I perceive the antidote to society’s certain destruction is in the act of holding all persons responsible for their words and actions on and off the Internet.   ken: Do you not see this? Remove your own hands, and switch on your own light, dear brother. rk:  You, like the bullies, find pleasure in creating confusion, conflict and division.  You reveal this when you "play games" by twisting meanings of the words expressed by another at the peripheral level of intellection.  It  is done through the implementation of one-liner, recognizable sound byte empty rhetoric at the letter-of-the-word level sans evidence that you/they possess even a scintilla of understanding of the meaning conveyed by myself and/or other serious posters. ken: With your knowledge, why do you defend yourself? rk:  See what I mean?

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A Judgment: Ken: rk drowns out his own inner confusion with these attacks on the living dead.

rk: False!   Your statement reflects an judgment based on an assumptive projection while you evade responsibility for your own misdirecting use of another’s "not understood" words (living dead). ken: Like I said previously, you also do these things you write about. Is your ‘perfection’ so perfect, that you did not just make this judgement? If you are nondualistic and perfect, how did you come to this conclusion? rk:  Your questions reveal the futility of a knowledge-bound intellect in dealing with matters well beyond its limitation. The dead giveaway is the request for methodology.  To truly understand what has been said, it is necessary for one to die to the prideful knowledge-bound, conditioned ego that one may be reborn of the timeless spirit of Truth, which, in its infiniteness, holds to no methodology. rk:  That is typically the case when one, lost in his own intellectual noise. appears to say something when  in fact he has said nothing  transcendent of his own limited conditioning, and parroting ability.  That is the magick of empty rhetoric which allows the knowledge-bound blind to lead the blind.  The hellish state of our world is testimony to such hypocrisy.

ken: Yet you rk, who talk against the government and educators, and the hellish state of this world, turn to this government, (FBI) to further you own ends. To increase this hell for others. Now that is true hypocrisy. So you see, your posts are a mirror of your self. As my posts are a mirror of myself. Again the above para is a perfect description of your self. See? rk:  It has been said "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."  I have not taken the law into my own hands, but, rather, have utilized existing institutions which, although flawed by their intellectual design, have been established to deal with the on-going corruption of conditioned men living in a "civilized" society.   rk:  Your condemnatory statement leveled at one who abides with (but is not solely bound to) the laws of man relegates such intelligence into the hopeless, helpless discarded heap of a category labeled "damned if you do and damned if you don’t." That is the dualistic nature of a Hell-bound Intellect in the act of expressing itself. It is by your own words that you stand indicted when you chance to stand before the mirror of Truth. ken: And of course you keep parroting the same lines and words over and over, with your own parroting ability, from you own limited conditioning. rk:  Perhaps, in ignorance, you do not understand what the word parroting means?  Parroting occurs not when one repeats his own fully aware/understood words when communicating, but in the not-understood, unaware use/repetition of parochial beliefs based on the words of others. A Question: Ken: Have you ever seen him say anything nice about anyone yet? rk;  For one to resolve the above question, one must examine the momentum of the posts as they are, not as one wishes they could be. rk:  One is fact, the other is fancy.  One must indeed be threading the "narrow way" of Truth to be aware of subtle and oft-times not so subtle dualistic compulsions to introduce extraneous and immaterial prejudices into the fray of human relationship.

ken: As you do so well. rk:  See what is meant about unsubstantiated one-liners? rk;  Do the words employed in describing the directly observed momentum of "What IS" accurately express the unfolding energy of the prior threads to this post?

ken: How do I know? Only you can answer this question, from you own perception of the threads. My perception is different to yours, else we would not be having this discussion. rk:  Read carefully the statement directly below and you will have your answer as to "How do I know" rk:  Self-evident Truth is seldom "observable" by the conditioned unaware who have been systematically conditioned to seek truth in the aftermoment realm of dead concepts and away from the timeless living moment of NOW?

ken: Why do you not spell out, in words of one syllable or less, for my living dead brain to assimilate, so that for once and for all, you can teach me exactly what it is you believe? Not some un-intelligble garbage about the living dead, but who you are, and how did you get there? And what exactly do you perceive as truth? rk:  Read again your question, and the answer to it is self-evident!  You pridefully demand that another express himself in words which contain "one syllable or LESS" (can you give an example of a word with LESS than ONE SYLLABLE?).  See what I mean about word-bantering ignoramuses who possess the words but not the meaning?   ken: I have been to your web site, but the words are too big for me  <bg rk:  Then you see, this whole matter is rather moot, is it not? Not only do you not understand what I am saying, your prideful ego prevents you from stretching a lazy, recalcitrant, conditioned ego to go beyond its own limitations. ken:  And please do not write that my living dead brain and unawareness of the truth, will prevent me from seeing what you are trying to say. If you do believe this, how are you going to reach the living dead and help them to see what it is you are? rk:  I’m not!!  Of that you may be certain.  My words are for those who are ready to end the Hellish momentum of a conditioned intellect and invite fundamental spiritual change into their lives at the very core of their being. ken:  How can you sell your books then? rk:  My books and tapes sell on the energy of nondualistic Truth revealed in my newsgroup activiity.  I do not and will not promote them in the usual schmoozing, pandering, positive imaged, feel-good, ego-appealing hypnotic manner by which mainstream books are marketed.  If you

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…Snipped fore and aft: An Observation:   Ken: Everyone is confused by their own inner noise, called thinking. rk; Almost everybody! A Judgment: Ken: rk drowns out his own inner confusion with these attacks on the living dead. rk: False!   Your statement reflects an judgment based on an assumptive projection while you evade responsibility for your own misdirecting use of another’s "not understood" words (living dead). rk:  That is typically the case when one, lost in his own intellectual noise. appears to say something when  in fact he has said nothing  transcendent of his own limited conditioning, and parroting ability.   That is the magick of empty rhetoric which allows the knowledge-bound blind to lead the blind.  The hellish state of our world is testimony to such hypocrisy. A Question: Ken: Have you ever seen him say anything nice about anyone yet? rk;  For one to resolve the above question, one must examine the momentum of the posts as they are, not as one wishes they could be. rk:  One is fact, the other is fancy.   One must indeed be threading the "narrow way" of Truth to be aware of subtle and oft-times not so subtle dualistic compulsions to introduce extraneous and immaterial prejudices into the fray of human relationship. rk;  Do the words employed in describing the directly observed momentum of "What IS" accurately express the unfolding energy of the prior threads to this post?   rk:  Self-evident Truth is seldom "observable" by the conditioned unaware who have been systematically conditioned to seek truth in the aftermoment realm of dead concepts and away from the timeless living moment of NOW?   rk:   If the "What IS" unfolds in a  "not nice" manner, would the purposeful inappropriate misdirection of saying "something nice," not stand itself as evidence in seducing another’s attention through a manipulative act of  pandering, deception and hypocrisy? rk:  Can you now see a little clearer the "Way of the World?"                                          Ray Karczewski Kenneth My perceptions of God and Reality, are from the book, A Course in Miracles. The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Re: Christs with Amnesia HI rk, ken:  I wonder why you, with your knowledge, bother to defend yourself? Those who are awake in the dream, are aware of the illusions of life, and consequently cannot be hurt or harmed. rk:  The above statement is meaningless as it lacks the energy of one who resonates in atonement with the essence of its Truth.

Ken:  Is it really? If you were aware of the Truth, you would see it is futile to defend yourself, by attacking others. Because we live in an illusion, what we do is of no value. You are the one who keeps attacking others, on the basis that they are the living dead. You are of the opinion that only you are aware. So yes all messages are meaningless, including yours. ken:  Well, guess what? I too AM aware. I AM aware of God. I too am aware of what you call the living dead. Except they are not living dead. They are Sons of God, trapped in human form, as an ego. Of their own choosing. BTW, these comments apply to me and you as well.    :( ken:  As I mentioned elsewhere, for some crazy reason we decided to see if there was an opposite to God, so the ego was created with all it’s faults and foibles. And this earth too was created by ego’s, which is why it is so full of wars, natural disasters and people who think they are separate from God. rk:  Such a "dead" letter-of-the-word statement reveals to the spiritually sighted (those who have the eyes to see and the ears to hear) the intellectual dependency of a hypocrite who must resort to the use of empty rhetoric as a ploy to cover his/her own lack of understanding.

ken:  I am so pleased that this comment does not apply to you. You who are so special and a divine ego. You must be very self/ego centered if you believe this drivel. The lack of understanding dear one, is entirely yours, shrouded in a dark mist of important self. And you too are a hypocrite, because whatever you see in me, is yours too. As I see you, so I see myself. ken:  And please write back and say I am a hypocrite, and the living dead and and any bullshit you sprout in your garden of divinity. rk: Tis a clear sign of a compensating bullshitter.

ken:  Oh dear. Is this the best you can come up with? And how do you come to this conclusion old chap? And notice that I too use the same words as you. You know why? Because rk, you and I ARE ONE. ken:  Is not defence the same as attack? rk:  Only to one who is confused and limited in consciousness.

ken:  Which I AM not. But obviously you think I am. But that is ok, because I know who I AM. ken:  If a person is being threatened by another, the first action that comes to mind is to defend themselves, so they lash out and attack. See? Defence is the same as attack. QED. rk:  The corrupting momentum of conditioning (mind control) allows for the desensitizing and limiting of consciousness through established political and religious educational agendas designed to strip sovereign human beings of their inherent "awareness."  Once the civilizing process begins, it must be continually reinforced.  That is the Pavlovian approach to habit-forming behavior.  That is the job of the media and entertainment industries.  For most it is a process which follows the hapless, hopeless automaton from the cradle to the grave.

ken:  You are describing your self perfectly. Everything you have written in the above para. You use all the above means to foster yourself, to hoist yourself onto the living dead. All of the above is of the ego. Valueless, exept what you want it to mean. rk:  In a world populated by conditioned, "living dead" automatons, Intelligence is stifled in all areas but for technical matters.  In such a bassackward environment awareness is replaced with unwareness.  People, in effect, are "dumbed down" while operating under the delusion that they are "intelligent."  From there it is just a short step to "dumb and dumber."  When the mind controllers (the educators) have done their jobs well, "dumb and dumber," reinforced by the media and entertainment industry, becomes the politically correct behavior promoted as "clever and cleverer."  Look at the quality of life on this earth.  It speaks for itself, in a language beyond words.  Who is smart enough to "see it?" d: Excuse me for a minute okay.  It sounds so arrogant. ken:  Yes, I am arrogant. I really am, and have been told so many times. rk:  And you seem damned proud of it too, wouldn’t you say?

ken:  Yes. It is my ego that is arrogant. And consequently of no value, except the value you and D give it. If you both think it is bad and a fault, so be it. My arrogance is, to me, of no value. Like someone with a zit on their face, you do not judge that person as having no values, or no spirituality. Do you understand this? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – d:     Now you are defending your attack because most people on the course in miracles stuff attack using their knowledge (or what they think is knowledge) as an excuse to attack and yet stay blind as to what they’re doing. ken: I am not blind to what I am doing. I asked RK a sensible question, he claims divinity and as such, I ask why does he defend himself? d: Wake up!  It would be more acceptable if you were doing it and at least seeing what you do. ken: I AM awake. I see what I do. I accept that I attack. I accept that I defend. I enjoy doing it. rk:  Attack!  Defend!  Enjoy!  Ah!, the darkness of spirit bound to its own dualistic Hell of intellect, proudly asserts itself via its clearly expressed pleasurable addictions to power.

ken:  Yes, this is my ego talking. Part of my lovely arrogance. Can you not let me be arrogant? How does it affect you? Do you not have arrogance in you so called divinity as well? Or do you think that your ego is perfect? ken: I have no fear to attack, in fact I love winding people up, by attacking them.  :) Makes me feel good inside.  :) rk:  As would be expected of any half-baked psychic vampire.

ken:  ROTFL. That is rich. For someone who claims divinity, to call me such, shows that you are not aware of anything. It does not bother me what you call me, because nothing hurts me. But I do think it strange that you call me this. When I am not a physic, nor a vampire. ken: Specially if I am attacked back, rk:  Attack, Defend, Enjoy–there it is again!  Your corrupted (conditioned) essence is indicative of one engaged in the eternal hunt for psychic survival. Such entities must draw upon the life force of others through the medium of upset.

ken:  You really are a twisted up little man, aren’t you? You have to make negative claims about people in using such low spiritual terms… again these comments you made apply to you, and not to me. Do you ever read your posts, and think…is this me as well? ken:  I at least admit to enjoying myself, but you obviously do it hurtfully, from a position of superiority, without humour at all…. never mind, it is really of no value what you or I do anyway. rk:  Being trapped in the time-bound milieu of the conditioned "living dead," the mechanical, reactionary friction of dualism  becomes the dominant force which compensates for one’s inability to live in the timeless nondualistic moment of NOW.

ken:  I love you rk, you make me laugh at your self importance. Like I do at my arrogance and pleasure I derive on usenet. IF big IF, you live in the NOW, and lived in nondualistic mode, you would know more about me. Never mind, I enjoy your sense of self importance, makes me see myself in a better light.  :) ken:  that shows me that people are at least thinking…  well hopefully.. rk: Ah, yes . . . thinking–the dualistic realm of the "LIVING DEAD!"

ken:  Lovely sense of humour you have there dude, oh I remember there is no difference in humour and other emotions. And guess what? I agree, like there is no difference in defence and attack. But you can still laugh, can you not? And I presume you too do not think either, in your dualistic realm of ego divinity. rk:  Kenneth, are you now able to discern the difference in the resonant energies of nondualistic "Spiritual Mirroring" and dualistic "psychological reversals?"

ken:  I have been able to discern this from the age of 13. I am now 59, had a wonderful life of winding people up, teasing them in their self importance, knowing that what I do in this mode is of no value. That all there is, is God. And do you know what? People love me, very much. Why? Because they see the God in me, the see the joy and happiness I have, the pleasure I get from knowing God. ken:  The very first line I ever wrote to you on usenet was this "I wonder why you, with your knowledge,"…     Is this not an awareness of who you, rk,  are? ken:  Now piss off, you stupid ego, and realise that you are an ego, accept this fact, then realise that You (big Y) are divine, and now go about Realising this.  Kenneth  My perceptions of God and Reality, are from the book,  A Course in Miracles. rk:  If, as you say, your ". . . perceptions of God and Reality, are from the book, A course in Miracles," and the exposure to the contents of this book has brought you to the present state of consciousness you express in this post, I suggest you have made my case about blind believers who find themselves bound to dogma through rote conditioning.  Your behavior is not unlike that of any dogmatic Bible thumper who parrots the words of others but exhibits no understanding of them.   rk:  Ken, you might want to chuck the books which have conditioned you to speak from such dead intellectual knowledge, and begin to speak from your own "living" personal understanding.

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Re: Christs with Amnesia Hi RK, ken:  I wonder why you, with your knowledge, bother to defend yourself? Those who are awake in the dream, are aware of the illusions of life, and consequently cannot be hurt or harmed.

rk:  The above statement is meaningless as it lacks the energy of one who resonates in atonement with the essence of its Truth.   rk:  Such a "dead" letter-of-the-word statement reveals to the spiritually sighted (those who have the eyes to see and the ears to hear) the intellectual dependency of a hypocrite who must resort to the use of empty rhetoric as a ploy to cover his/her own lack of understanding.  Tis a clear sign of a compensating bullshitter. ken:  Is not defence the same as attack?

rk:  Only to one who is confused and limited in consciousness. rk:  The corrupting momentum of conditioning (mind control) allows for the desensitizing and limiting of consciousness through established political and religious educational agendas designed to strip sovereign human beings of their inherent "awareness."  Once the civilizing process begins, it must be continually reinforced.  That is the Pavlovian approach to habit-forming behavior.  That is the job of the media and entertainment industries.  For most it is a process which follows the hapless, hopeless automaton from the cradle to the grave.   rk:  In a world populated by conditioned, "living dead" automatons,  Intelligence is stifled in all areas but for technical matters.  In such a bassackward environment awareness is replaced with unwareness.  People, in effect, are "dumbed down" while operating under the delusion that they are "intelligent."  From there it is just a short step to "dumb and dumber."  When the mind controllers (the educators) have done their jobs well, "dumb and dumber," reinforced by the media and entertainment industry, becomes the politically correct behavior promoted as "clever and cleverer."  Look at the quality of life on this earth.  It speaks for itself, in a language beyond words. Who is smart enough to "see it?" d: Excuse me for a minute okay.  It sounds so arrogant.   ken:  Yes, I am arrogant. I really am, and have been told so many times.

rk:  And you seem damned proud of it too, wouldn’t you say? d:     Now you are defending your attack because most people on the course in miracles stuff attack using their knowledge (or what they think is knowledge) as an excuse to attack and yet stay blind as to what they’re doing. ken: I am not blind to what I am doing. I asked RK a sensible question, he claims divinity and as such, I ask why does he defend himself? d: Wake up!  It would be more acceptable if you were doing it and at least seeing what you do.   ken: I AM awake. I see what I do. I accept that I attack. I accept that I defend. I enjoy doing it.

rk:  Attack!  Defend!  Enjoy!  Ah!, the darkness of spirit bound to its own dualistic Hell of intellect, proudly asserts itself via its clearly expressed pleasurable addictions to power. ken: I have no fear to attack, in fact I love winding people up, by attacking them.  :) Makes me feel good inside.  :)

rk:  As would be expected of any half-baked psychic vampire. ken: Specially if I am attacked back,

rk:  Attack, Defend, Enjoy–there it is again!  Your corrupted (conditioned) essence is indicative of one engaged in the eternal hunt for psychic survival.  Such entities must draw upon the life force of others through the medium of upset. rk:  Being trapped in the time-bound milieu of the conditioned "living dead," the mechanical, reactionary friction of dualism becomes the dominant force which compensates for one’s inability to live in the timeless nondualistic moment of NOW. ken:  that shows me that people are at least thinking…  well hopefully..

rk:  Ah, yes . . . thinking–the dualistic realm of the "LIVING DEAD!" rk:  Kenneth, are you now able to discern the difference in the resonant energies of nondualistic "Spiritual Mirroring" and dualistic "psychological reversals?"                              Ray Karczewski Kenneth My perceptions of God and Reality, are from the book, A Course in Miracles.

The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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rk:  Snipped–Lengthy interchange with empath on deception and humor, not a hint of which is specifically addressed by AM. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -am: Thus spake Ray "Smokin’ Mirrors" Karczewski am: (Never arrogant, never evasive, never dishonest, never judgemental, never hypocritical, never abusive, never angry, never contemptuous, never wrong, etc., etc., etc.) am: The bottom line is, how many times have you seen Ray’s pompous pontifications result in the "wholistic oneness" he claims to espouse versus how many times have you seen them result in the very sort of "bifurcated duality" he claims to abhor? am: That, of course, is always everyone else’s fault – - – all those pitifully, blind, despicable people he has never claimed to be superior to.  Couldn’t possibly be a problem with the message, the messenger, or the mechanics thereof . . . am: Of course, by saying this I put myself at risk of legal action at the hands of the very large, political power structures he also claims to abhor. Nothing but "Love" and "Light" and " Mutual Respect" for his spiritual "Brothers" and "Sisters," eh? am: All Hail His Holistic Hyper-Hypocrisy!!! AM

rk:  AM, you can be assured that you are in no danger from anyone or anything with perhaps the exception of yourself.   rk:  Your continuation of these rabble-rousing, shotgun approach, empty rhetoric, say-nothing posts only reveals the dearth of integrity possessed by typical parasitical pipsqueak coat-tail riders who’ll settle for whatever recognition they can get.                                    Ray Karczewski P.S.  What can be said about one who attempts to start a bandwagon momentum when he doesn’t even possess a bandwagon? The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Re: Christs with Amnesia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <most clipped, since my attention was caught by a single statement rk:  Perhaps you may one day see that humor and dishonesty are one and the same.   That ought to bring a little clarity into your life!!                               Ray Karczewski e:  There are times the temptation to explain the hurtful nature of particular forms of humor have been strong.  The concept of all humor being dishonest was a concept that had totally escaped my notice. There are "feelings" that there is not such an inclusive nature to all humor, but my preference is not to deceive myself.   Could anyone elaborate on this concept? Empath rk:  Such dependence upon consensus thinking will never result in the Truth which presently lies beyond your grasp.  But then again, that is how most entities who comprise the "living dead" spend their hapless, hopeless lives–immersed in the ignorance of self deception..

e:  Consensus thinking was not brought up by anyone other than yourself. My request was for elaboration.  If you newly pronounced "sin" of humor has been considered to a point that a consensus opinion is available, then research on my part could be conducted alone.  Hearing from you that humor and dishonesty are one and the same is not sufficient reason for me to adopt it as truth.  "Believe nothing, verify everything", is a protection. There are some that will attempt to seduce you with false claims that they are "special", having an inside advantage to knowing what is TRUTH .  Fools are the ones trusting in them and allowing them to mislead them with their confident sounding claims. rk:  Fools are those who stand with their own hands covering their tightly shut eyes who cry "I can’t see, I can’t see. I’m blind, I’m blind," while refusing the simple request to remove their hands and open their eyes to determine whether a different quality of perception arises. rk:  In my response to you did I not say " Now it’s up to you to see it or not!!"?   rk;  One will NEVER come to atonement (understanding ) with the nondualistic multidimensional energy of Truth via the dualistic energy found in the realm of linear, horizontal, sequential intellectual thought, for there, one moves and finds his fragmented being trapped in a   circular realm of manipulative dead symbols of words and concepts.  Refusing to let go of your habitual manner of coping with problems (unholistic perception) is your particular preferred compensation for groping about in darkness.  You reveal your blindness when requesting to be led in your blindness by another, but place demands upon the other to likewise close his eyes and cover them with his hands.   Such are the conditions which setup a momentum doomed to keep all concerned in perpetual blindness. .  A simple truth was offered and rapidly rejected because you refuse to risk the ending of a compensatory knowledge bound ego.  That is/was/will always be the block to direct  IN-SIGHT. rk:  That which is True is whole.  It speaks for itself.  It needs no interpretation.  That which is not whole is a deception based in the bifurcated energy of the whole fragmented into opposing (dual) streams.

e:  You found a new word for dualistic.  You though are the one that established the two dimensional nature by making a definite point that one must accept or reject.  Your words "one and the same" do not allow anything other than a stand for or against a dishonest practice. rk: Only as misperceived by one who is trapped in thought. rk:  Is humor "seen" as an holistic momentum, or is it observed as being dualistic in nature, with a heavy reliance upon upset of momentum? Such is the nature of conflict, regardless of the psychologial spin applied to it, is it not?

e:  Humor capitalizes on the incongruous, yes.  Conflict likewise does. Conflict is an external demonstration of internal consideration. Humor does not necessarily demonstrate internal consideration.  Humor often demonstrates external considerations. rk:  You’re in the dark room "feeling up the elephant, quibbling over each part sensed."  Let me know when you tire of this foolishness and are ready to take down your hands, open your eyes and switch on the light.  That is how the Blind can be made to see.  That is how the fragmented approach of linear thought ends and allows for the direct apprehension of the whole. e:  Watermelons can marry, but they cantaloupe. That’s humor and deals in incongruence.  The effect of it is to bring a smile or uplifted spirit to another.  There is not the internal consideration that brings about conflict. rk:  See what I mean about the circular, go nowhere, quibbling, misdirecting nature of thought?  It entertains the blind with busy work activities while their trance continues.  If that is what you want, then by all means have at it, but do not ask the sighted how to see when your preference is to remain blind. rk:  Humor is a relief valve factored into a thought structured world gone insane.  Humor is made possible by the tension-releasing unexpected spin applied to the energy of the expected known.  Humor is a technical means of manipulating a pained and suffering consciousness into an "acceptable" release of built-up tension (unresolved resentments).

e:  You demonstrate a good knowledge of the mechanical nature of humor. What is lacking is the reason you have made a right/wrong determination in regard to it.   rk:  I challenge you to find any mention of "right/wrong" in any of my many posts. Such is your own use of  judgment superimposed upon that "unknown made known" energy  you are unable to grasp.   e:  Such a relief valve is the nature of man.  Your effort to regard it as "sinful" seems very much like the poster that appears occasionally (I don’t remember his name), claiming that all sex is sinful, and that it is sinful to enjoy eating.  The human machine enjoys certain aspects of his machine.  Under what authority do you feel you can condemn the use of such simply because it relieves tension. rk:  Is it a "sin" to mention to a blind man that he is blind? Is it condemnation to say to a sleeping consciousness WAKE UP!!!? Is it not you who posits the element of "authority" in the above paragraph then proceeds to rail against it?  See what I mean?  To solve this problem of blindness, one must be serious, otherwise humor becomes a necessity in coping with the darkness. rk:  Have you not heard the one about "If you didn’t laugh, you’d cry?   Therein lies the answer to your query.  Now it’s up to you to see it or not!!                               Ray Karczewski

e:  No doubt everyone has heard the statement "If you didn’t laugh, you’d cry".  My wish is that more that are crying could find laughter. rk:  Such a wish is meaningless to the "What IS," is it not? e:   It still doesn’t answer my query.  My query was for elaboration of your claim that humor and dishonesty are one and the same.  You haven’t addressed the dishonesty factor at all. rk:  When you understand the nature of duality, you understand the dishonesty or hypocrisy factor. rk:  Clearly one who is not serious opts for the fragmented approach to problem solving.  The unholistic fragmented approach is the dishonesty spoken of but  not grasped by the non spiritually sighted. e:  All you have given is an intellectual discussion of the mechanics of humor as if the nature of laughter was an undesirable human trait to be overcome. rk:  Have you not heard the one about "You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make em drink?"  Does that not sum up what is going on here? e:  You have equated humor with dishonesty, a principle that cannot be ignored by any wishing to align themselves with truth and integrity. rk:  You can "WISH" to align yourself with the light of truth and integrity all you want, but unless you are ready to remove your hands, open your eyes and switch on the light, tromping around in that dark room with an elephant may cause you to step into copious piles of elephant doo doo. e:  If such has merit it is reasonable to seek the answers.  Your postings have provided things of value, but it seems it is necessary to be very discriminating in what is accepted and what is rejected.  It’s likened to "dumpster diving".  There is value in there, but retrieving that which is valuable is likely to leave one stained and reeking of the odor of the garbage. rk:  Solution:  Open your eyes and avoid the "doo doo." e:  Such things as mixing messages of higher consciousness with unsubstantiated conspiratorial claims, and accusations against individuals that they are posing as another, (myself included) makes it very reasonable to question your claims of special insight. rk: See what I mean about the insertion of immaterial misdirecting tangents common to all intellectual linear approaches to non-technical problem? How will such frittering away of personal energy  resolve your personal concerns about humor?  Be Aware…Then when a problem arises, "Let thine eye be single."  Be serious. That is what leads to understanding. e:  My request for elaboration of your claim that humor and dishonesty are one and the same still stands. Empath rk:  Why does that not come as a surprise to me?                            Ray Karczewski The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski … read more »

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Re: Christs with Amnesia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <most clipped, since my attention was caught by a single statement rk:  Perhaps you may one day see that humor and dishonesty are one and the same.   That ought to bring a little clarity into your life!!                               Ray Karczewski There are times the temptation to explain the hurtful nature of particular forms of humor have been strong.  The concept of all humor being dishonest was a concept that had totally escaped my notice. There are "feelings" that there is not such an inclusive nature to all humor, but my preference is not to deceive myself.   Could anyone elaborate on this concept? Empath

rk:  Such dependence upon consensus thinking will never result in the Truth which presently lies beyond your grasp.  But then again, that is how most entities who comprise the "living dead" spend their hapless, hopeless lives–immersed in the ignorance of self deception.. rk:  That which is True is whole.  It speaks for itself.  It needs no interpretation.  That which is not whole is a deception based in the bifurcated energy of the whole fragmented into opposing (dual) streams. rk:  Is humor "seen" as an holistic momentum, or is it observed as being dualistic in nature, with a heavy reliance upon upset of momentum? Such is the nature of conflict, regardless of the psychologial spin applied to it, is it not? rk:  Humor is a relief valve factored into a thought structured world gone insane.  Humor is made possible by the tension-releasing unexpected spin applied to the energy of the expected known.  Humor is a technical means of manipulating a pained and suffering consciousness into an "acceptable" release of built-up tension (unresolved resentments). rk:  Have you not heard the one about "If you didn’t laugh, you’d cry?   Therein lies the answer to your query.  Now it’s up to you to see it or not!!                                Ray Karczewski The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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   Dear writer,         I understand you perfectly and you are totally right.  You see clearly and eloquently and they who attacked you in response were attacking in ignorance.  If there is any anger in you for being attacked it is understandable and justified because it is the negative feedback they need to see what it is that they are doing.  They do to you as they are doing unto themselves.  I am starting to get a glimplse of compassion on them now.  Forgive them for they know not what they do.                                         Daniel rk:  Thank you, Daniel.  I assure you that anger as experienced within the normal confusion of a dualism based intellect is not the energy operating within me.  Were it to be so, it would be readily recognized by those who are wracked with confusion yet live in its denial through dualistic tactics of blame, debate, competition, and power.   rk:  That is clearly not the case, for few as yet (in dualistic parlance) have been able to "see where the spirit of my words come from."  That is the frustration experienced by limited intellects when meeting and dealing with the infinite unknown which lies beyond their limited comprehension.   rk:  Your spiritual eyes have allowed you to see what the profane will never see. rk:  It is when brothers and sisters of the spirit, possessed of the "spiritual eyes to see and  ears to hear," understand and speak their Truth openly, freely, without the fear of illusory worldly consequences designed to shut down their momentum, that a New Consciousness based in the Spirit of Truth will manifest in the world of mankind. rk:  In my Internet activity, along with my book and tapes, such energy has been amply demonstrated.  I have demonstrated the Truth by being the "exception" to the "illusory" rule.  That, Daniel, is Freedom! rk:  It is the realm of the dead aftermoment of intellectual thought which rules "Talk Abouts" who write the books which legitimize, promote, glorify and worship a simple (but dead) "vessel" of Truth who said, "I am the Truth, the Life, and the Way . . ." yet rail when the same words are spoken by a living person.  That tells the story.  Such is the nature of a bassackward conditioned consciousness, is it not? rk:  In life many are called to answer the summons of Truth in the timeless moment of NOW.  Few, however, have the strength/integrity to answer the call.  Through their conditioning they have been rendered inert.  When such "hidden in plain sight" simple Truth is openly shared with a complex, mass-conditioned, inert consciousness the fireworks which ensue are seen by those who are ready for change as the wakeup call which shall bring mankind a New Consciousness on this earth.                                      Ray Karczewski The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Re: Christs with Amnesia am: "Do you agree to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help yourself?" am: See how your dialogues relentlessly undermine whatever value your monologues may have  - – - and this is coming from one of the few people, apparently, who sees any value in your monologues. am: Oh, well – - – it’s not as important as you think. AM

rk:  What do your musings in the above paragraphs have to do with anything other than your own confused perceptions of me? am:  Or should I say that YOU are not as important as you think?

rk:  WHOOPS!!  There goes that judgment again!.  With that uncontrollable twitching knee, you must be a hell of a dancer! am:  Are you really happy and satisfied, Ray?  

rk:  Is not such a dualistic projection a veiled attempt at penetrating one’s own unhappy and divided psyche?  Does not it provide for you evidence that you are going about this all "Bassackwards?" am:  You aborted a nice peacful little interlude where everyone seemed to be willing to disengage, bury the hatchets, forgive, and forget, by questioning the courage of people who had simply lost interest in your self-absorbed rants on the erroneous premises that 1) they were cowering in fear of an FBI investigation that 2) the FBI would consider you and all this important enough to undertake.

rk:  Another busy-work, groundless, filler-space musing to provide grist for the mill of an insatiable noisy, gossiping intellect, is it not? am:  Isn’t this all about your insecurity as manifested in your daily assertions of self-importance, Ray?  

rk:  Perhaps you will dig up just one such example of a "daily assertions of self-importance" made by me which does not emanate from your own feeling of inferiority evidenced by the judgment in your own words? am:  You post your observations.  When people don’t rush to exclaim how important they and you are, you insult and deride them, they deride you back, you deride each other ad nauseum, then you file an FBI complaint that they don’t consider important enough to investigate, and finally you deride the FBI for not considering you important enough, and everyone derides you about that.

rk:  Now there’s a psychological tangent well worth reflecting upon by all who would seek to find clarity in their own confused intellect.   rk:  Now all that you need to do is produce one sliver of evidence out of the thousands of posts I have written over the last three years on the Internet where I have insulted and derided others categorize by you with the assertion  "When people don’t rush to exclaim how important they and you are," am: A truly enlightened person realizes that one must command respect – - – not demand it.

rk:  Command . . . Demand Respect??  Can you hear yourself? rk:  Of what worth is respect to anyone who has plumbed the depths of his being and has understood the peripheral realm of the intellect with its dualistic, fear-based need for respect? Where is respect to be found in equality?  Respect is of the Illusory realm.  Respect is tied to fear.   I neither respect nor demand respect–I AM!   I engender love.  It is that nondualistic energy of love that drives fearful inmates up the asylum walls. am: You should also learn to distinguish between humor and dishonesty. AM

rk:  Perhaps you may one day see that humor and dishonesty are one and the same.   That ought to bring a little clarity into your life!!                                Ray Karczewski The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Re: Christs with Amnesia Re: Christs with Amnesia rk:  I wonder how many readers are aware of the  radical shift in momentum recently displayed by the AFAB Bullies regarding my posted articles? Hi RK, I wonder why you, with your knowledge, bother to defend yourself?

rk:  Yours is a misperception, is it not?  You confuse the nondualistic energy of mirroring for the fragmented dualistic energy of defense.  I merely reflect accurately the momentum as it unfolds in the moment.  It is to introduce to those who are trapped in their self-created dualistic Hell, the divine protection that is afforded one who lives and moves with the nondualistic energy of Divine Truth.  That is the "New Consciousness" which awaits those ready to invite such a radical change into their lives Those who are awake in the dream, are aware of the illusions of life, and consequently cannot be hurt or harmed.

rk;  Does such a glib statement emanate from the core of your personal understanding or merely from the peripheral realm of conditioned belief?  My discernment is that it arises from the latter; otherwise it would not be so heavily laden with such overstated dualistic energy. Is not defence the same as attack?

rk:  Only to a unaware, conditioned intellect which finds itself hopelessly trapped in its own dualistic projections. Cheers Kenneth My perceptions of God and Reality, are from the book, A Course in Miracles.

rk:  My point exactly.  You live a vicarious, fragmented life typical of the conditioned "living dead."  These are the blind believers whose endless suffering is easily traced to their inculcated, aftermoment belief in dead concepts while they eschew the living moment of holistic Truth that words can only approximate. rk:  One must die to the dead intellect of the "talk about" to be reborn of the Spirit and understand the living Truth of a "Talk OF."                                    Ray Karczewski

The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Re: Christs with Amnesia rk:  I wonder how many readers are aware of the  radical shift in momentum recently displayed by the AFAB Bullies regarding my posted articles?

am:  I had noticed a change, but had attributed it to the fact that you had simply been posting less (at least in t.r.n.), and of those you had posted, at least half seemed to be monologues, which are not nearly so irritating as your transparently egotistical  and abusive dialogues. rk:  Careful, hypocrite, your knee jerk penchant for judgement has wasted no time in revealing itself.  Who is the entity that is irritated, and who is the author of the terms "egotistical and abusive dialogues"?  Clearly not all who read my posts share such a parochial mindset.  You have only succeeded in uttering a personal, fragmented observation.  So speaketh the "Mirror of Truth."   am:   I, for one, felt that this, in the wake of your recent acknowledgement of your clearly apparent imperfection, rk:  To what "imperfection are you referring?  Here you demonstrate the deceptive ability of hypocrites who appear to say something, when in fact, they say nothing. am:  represented a very significant step forward in your personal psychology, and evidence that you were making a genuine effort to improve yourself, something none of us, I think, want to, in any way, impede. rk:  I am an aware, an awake individual, yet I must admit I haven’t a clue of what you are talking about.  That tells me I am dealing with one of your many fantasies that you do not wish to expose publicly. am:   One, of course, has to first realize that there IS a problem, before one can begin to effectively address it. rk:  Bingo!!! am:  We have all, after all, been trying to help you, however irreverently, at times.   rk:  Is that sorta like the inmates running the asylum? am:  I guess it seems to us that your case has required unusually strong medicine.  Rest assured that we are all awaiting with great patience and anticipation the opportunity to welcome you back into the family, just as soon as you’re ready. rk:  Have I not said on many occasions that I am in this world (asylum) but not of it? rk:  It somewhat galls you to observe a sovereign human being, a "frequent visitor" to your asylum, who is able to freely come and go and not be held by its walls.  Your demand that such freedom must be relinquished in order to be welcomed back into the inmate population is not a particularly persuasive inducement, is it? rk:  Aside from misdirecting mindless twaddle purposely designed to lead others away from the seriousness of the original message (such as reflected in this post), disinformation agent tim hill and company via their implementation of multiple fictitious masks, have totally stopped their three year campaign of libel and personal attacks upon my articles.

am:  It is indeed very noticable that when you suspend your abusive pontifications, this newsgroup seems to settle down and begin seriously addressing substantive issues. rk:  Why don’t you yank out of your "miniscule" personal list of "substantive issues" just one such issue you have seriously participated in and share it with us? am:  Why, even I have not felt the need to mentor anyone! rk:  You see, a sliver of intelligence can be found to operate in even the most ignorant of prideful egos. rk:  My personal take is that some of the AFAB Bullies have already been contacted by the FBI in their long drawn out investigation.  They now realize they will be held  responsible for their actions on these newsgroups over the last three years.

am:  Apparently, no one has been contacted by the FBI, since we are all, one by one, checking in to generously facilitate and nurture your first tentative efforts to find the exact boundaries of your illusions, by empathetically volunteering this objective feedback. rk:  See what is meant by misdirecting statements which make no sense whatsoever and are designed to cause others to doubt themselves over the observance of such expressed hypocrisy?  When the nonsense begins to make sense, and "True Sense" goes out the window, one lives in a world called "bassackward."  In other words, one’s confusion is the dominant momentum in a consciousness blinded by such prideful ignorance. That is the common variable to be found in the dysfunction "family" of the blind leading the blind. And you expect me to join you !!?   rk:  The fear engendered by that realization, I perceive, has resulted in the recent total cessation of attacks upon my posts.

am:  Quite to the contrary, it clearly demonstrates the principle that many allegedly "paranoid" people will stop acting defensively, just as soon as real aggressors stop invading their space. rk;  Have you not heard the simple statement. "It isn’t paranoia if it’s True?"  So how are these "alleged" people paranoid if, as you assert, the aggressors are indeed "real."  You seem to equate "awareness" with "paranoid."  Do you see what is meant by the term Bassackwards? rk:  Additional evidence to substantiate the existence of an ongoing conspiracy, wouldn’t you say?

am:  Maybe we should change the name of this thread "Ordinary People with Christ Complexes." rk:  Have no fear about your coming to grips with your own ignorance any time real soon.  When one so energetically eschews the reality of their true nature as a "Christ with Amnesia" in favor of idolizing the state of prideful conditioned ignorance labeled as "ordinary People". . . well, you really say it all, don’t you? rk:  Check the Deja News archives…You’ll see what I mean!

                                          Ray Karczewski There, there, Ray . . . shhhhhhhhhh . . . we don’t want a relapse, now do we? AM rk:  I have purposely left AM’s remarks intact in this post to demonstrate the hypocrisy which dominates the consciousness of the civilized world. rk:  AM is such a hypocrite.  He brings to the newsgroups an extraordinary display of that damning trait in the above post. If that is strong language to some readers, I suggest they pull any number of AM’s prior posts directed toward my messages out of Deja News archives and see the simple truth of it for themselves. rk:  The simple evidence which exposes a hypocrite "every time" is that they "cannot handle the Truth," but opt for the lie at every opportunity. rk:  The tool of the hypocrite is deception, plain and simple. It must be delivered to the "unwary" through positive imagery with an inordinate amount of "schmoozing–I’m here for you– soft–warm–fuzzy–gushing feelings" which serve as a misdirecting ploy, pulling attention away from the cold, hard, divisive thrust of an exploitive, controlling, power-oriented momentum.   rk:  Hypocrisy is seen in the judge who sentences a man to the death penalty with the glib pronouncement ". . . and may God have mercy on your soul."  Hypocrisy is the well-dressed, image-conscious, word manipulating warmonger who attends gala balls and lavish parties at public expense after sending young men to fight and die in dirty foreign trenches, foxholes, and jungles far away from their homes.  Hypocrisy is the slick diplomat whose words of apparent wisdom and integrity belie his hell-born, nonintegral, intriguing, life destroying actions. Hypocrisy is the politician whose prostituted inspiring and glorious language is no more than the empty rhetoric of yesterday’s speech. rk:  If one looks at my reply to AM in the post above, they will unquestionably notice a definite dichotomy in the delivery of words.  Of that there is no question.  The only course left  to the inquiring reader is to observe the words and the momentum which underlies those words.  Are they moving together in the same uncontradicted energy, or do the words say one thing while the momentum says another?  In other words, do the words match the actions?  Are the words spoken/written, True?  And, if so, then what of it? rk:  That is the uncomfortable energy which is manifest when hypocrisy is being exposed by the mirror of Truth in the fleeting moment of NOW.  The exposure of the hypocrite comes in a simple expression of WHAT IS directly observed in the moment of Truth by an integral man or woman.  Such expression, however, is constrained by the limitation of impotent, fragmented symbols of dualisic words unable to convey the whole. rk:  It is then that the "gates of Hell" of a dualistic consciousness lets loose its fury in a feeble, dualistic attempt at misdirection, obfuscation and derision in order to characterize the eternal Truth as the prime "enemy" of one’s inculcated, warm-and-fuzzy, conditioned positive images. rk:  There is only one God–the God of Truth.  All else are the multiplicitous false gods of the projecting, positive image-bound intellect.  The generic name of that false god is HYPOCRISY! rk:  Read my response to AM.  You will see what I mean.                                        Ray Karczewski The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Re: Christs with Amnesia Organization: University of Houston Law Ctr Are you a Christ with amnesia?

tm:     Most definitely, Ray.  I can’t remember where the hell these wounds in my hands and feet came from. Do not be quick to prejudge and dismiss such a question as nonsense.

tm: I’m listening. With an open mind, step into the ethereal dimension of ancient secrets known and taught by the great world teachers

tm: If they were known and taught, how could they have been "secrets"? rk:  Truth is always hidden in plain sight of the ignorant and profane, is it not?    Do you see how quickly you arrive at exposing the limitation of a conditioned intellect bound to empty rhetoric?  Legal training is no assurance of one’s awareness, is it? and you realize they all have spoken one simple truth to mankind: "We are all one."

tm:     But what does that really mean?  Conjoined twins are "one."  How are we all "one"?  Do you mean there are no subspecies of Homo Sapiens Sapiens? Despite some evidence to the contrary, I can only answer, "Duh." rk:  Duh indeed! The direct realization of this immutable fact is the key which unlocks the prison of the intellectual, mind-based Hell man has created for himself on this earth.

tm: Whose realization unlocks whose prison? rk: Forgive the redundancy, but "Duh indeed!" Understanding how one’s wholistic nature has been stripped away through hypnotic pressures of living in a civilized society restores balance and clarity to one’s life.

tm: And what are you trying to do to us now? rk: Can you not See What IS, simply, and with clarity?. Does your blind ignorance require the assistance of the very entity  you resist?  What’s wrong with that picture?   Is that not the curse of an intellect lock in combat with its own temporal dualistic self? Is that not the very essence of "Duh" itself? Do you possess the discernment to separate truth from fictitious images?

tm: I don’t know.  How could I know for sure? rk:  Res ipsa Louquitor.  Your words indeed "speak for themselves."  Is not your linear, fragmented intellectual attack upon another grounded in your own parochial confusion? If each of us had this ability, this collective world "of our own making" would never experience another day of war, poverty, starvation, violence, suffering or exploitation.

tm: No more suffering?  You’re an idjit, Ray.  You need to tour a cancer ward. rk:  For what purpose?  How will such a miniscule example of physical pain and suffering end the vast psychological suffering of worldly, able bodied individuals who are not particularly afflicted with cancer?  Surely even you must see the  ignorance which abound in such linear, legalistic conditioned letter of the word interpretations.  Such corruption speaks for itself, does it not? Change in our world must start with change in ourselves. This is the only "new world order" necessary to bring peace to this planet. I guarantee you will never hear this message from your pulpit or government, regardless of where you live in the world.

tm: I’m reading between the lines that you think the "change yourselves to change the world" proposition is your own idea.   rk:  You have not read between the lines, you have lazily jumped to a linear conclusion when the letter of the word interpretation no longer served your deceptive purpose.  Such is the nature of hypocrisy. tm:  Does this sound familiar: "Ask not what your country can do for you . . . "?  What a pompous jackass you are. These tapes

tm:  Oh, there are tapes . . . rk:  You bet there are!  The essence of those tapes are capable of awakening the hypnotically entranced..   When applied to the intellectual, time-bound, unaware state of conditioned consciousness spiritually observable as the "living dead" they indeed have the ability to "raise the dead." are a serious threat to the "present status quo." They contain a message your political and religious leaders do not want you to hear. The reason for it is quite obvious–their carefully constructed psychological hold over you would be broken, and they would lose their power.

tm:  Do you still pay your taxes, Ray? rk:  Is this a "render to Ceasar the things that are Ceasar’s and to God the things that are God’s" question?  If so, then–Guess!!                                       Ray Karczewski These tapes are for those "who have the eyes to see and the ears to hear," and are ready to bring fundamental change to their lives. The message of the tapes is not the product of nor is it affiliated with any religious or political organization. Their life-altering power is found in the transcendent essence upon which all of man’s power-oriented social structures are based.

tm: That "transcendent essence" wouldn’t be methane, would it? Tim Mulligan The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Re: Christs with Amnesia rk:  I wonder how many readers are aware of the  radical shift in momentum recently displayed by the AFAB Bullies regarding my posted articles?

am:  I had noticed a change, but had attributed it to the fact that you had simply been posting less (at least in t.r.n.), and of those you had posted, at least half seemed to be monologues, which are not nearly so irritating as your transparently egotistical  and abusive dialogues. rk:  Careful, hypocrite, your knee jerk penchant for judgement has wasted no time in revealing itself.  Who is the entity that is irritated, and who is the author of the terms "egotistical and abusive dialogues"?  Clearly not all who read my posts share such a parochial mindset.  You have only succeeded in uttering a personal, fragmented observation.  So speaketh the "Mirror of Truth."   am:   I, for one, felt that this, in the wake of your recent acknowledgement of your clearly apparent imperfection, rk:  To what "imperfection are you referring?  Here you demonstrate the deceptive ability of hypocrites who appear to say something, when in fact, they say nothing. am:  represented a very significant step forward in your personal psychology, and evidence that you were making a genuine effort to improve yourself, something none of us, I think, want to, in any way, impede. rk:  I am an aware, an awake individual, yet I must admit I haven’t a clue of what you are talking about.  That tells me I am dealing with one of your many fantasies that you do not wish to expose publicly. am:   One, of course, has to first realize that there IS a problem, before one can begin to effectively address it. rk:  Bingo!!! am:  We have all, after all, been trying to help you, however irreverently, at times.   rk:  Is that sorta like the inmates running the asylum? am:  I guess it seems to us that your case has required unusually strong medicine.  Rest assured that we are all awaiting with great patience and anticipation the opportunity to welcome you back into the family, just as soon as you’re ready. rk:  Have I not said on many occasions that I am in this world (asylum) but not of it? rk:  It somewhat galls you to observe a sovereign human being, a "frequent visitor" to your asylum, who is able to freely come and go and not be held by its walls.  Your demand that such freedom must be relinquished in order to be welcomed back into the inmate population is not a particularly persuasive inducement, is it? rk:  Aside from misdirecting mindless twaddle purposely designed to lead others away from the seriousness of the original message (such as reflected in this post). disinformation agent tim hill and company via their implementation of multiple fictitious masks, have totally stopped their three year campaign of libel and personal attacks upon my articles.

am:  It is indeed very noticable that when you suspend your abusive pontifications, this newsgroup seems to settle down and begin seriously addressing substantive issues. rk:  Why don’t you yank out of your "miniscule" personal list of "substantive issues" just one such issue you have seriously participated in and share it with us? am:  Why, even I have not felt the need to mentor anyone! rk:  You see, a sliver of intelligence can be found to operate in even the most ignorant of prideful egos. rk:  My personal take is that some of the AFAB Bullies have already been contacted by the FBI in their long drawn out investigation.  They now realizethey will be held  responsible for their actions on these newsgroups over the last three years.

am:  Apparently, no one has been contacted by the FBI, since we are all, one by one, checking in to generously facilitate and nurture your first tentative efforts to find the exact boundaries of your illusions, by empathetically volunteering this objective feedback. rk:  See what is meant by misdirecting statements which make no sense whatsoever and are designed to cause others to doubt themselves over the observance of such expressed hypocrisy?  When the nonsense begins to make sense, and "True Sense" goes out the window, one lives in a world called "bassackward."  In other words, one’s confusion is the dominant momentum in a consciousness blinded by such prideful ignorance. That is the common variable to be found in the dysfunction "family" of the blind leading the blind. And you expect me to join you !!?   rk:  The fear engendered by that realization, I perceive, has resulted in the recent total cessation of attacks upon my posts.

am:  Quite to the contrary, it clearly demonstrates the principle that many allegedly "paranoid" people will stop acting defensively, just as soon as real aggressors stop invading their space. rk;  Have you not heard the simple statement. "It isn’t paranoia if it’s True?"  So how are these "alleged" people paranoid if, as you assert, the aggressors are indeed "real."  You seem to equate "awareness" with "paranoid."  Do you see what is meant by the term Bassackwards? rk:  Additional evidence to substantiate the existence of an on-going conspiracy, wouldn’t you say?

am:  Maybe we should change the name of this thread "Ordinary People with Christ Complexes." rk:  Have no fear about your coming to grips with your own ignorance any time real soon.  When one so energetically eschews the reality of their true nature as a "Christ with Amnesia" in favor of idolizing the state of prideful conditioned ignorance labeled as "ordinary People". . . well, you really say it all, don’t you? rk:  Check the Deja News archives…You’ll see what I mean!

                                          Ray Karczewski There, there, Ray . . . shhhhhhhhhh . . . we don’t want a relapse, now do we? AM The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Re: Christs with Amnesia Are you a Christ with amnesia? Nawh, I’m a buddha who came back from out of the universe and reset because I thought it would be so much fun to do it over again!  ;-)

rk:  It IS, isn’t it?                      Ray Karczewski Take care of yourself Dick Menninger

The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Re: Christs with Amnesia Christs with Amnesia Are you a Christ with amnesia? Uhhhh, I don’t remember. You don’t remember?

rk:  I wonder how many readers are aware of the  radical shift in momentum recently displayed by the AFAB Bullies regarding my posted articles? rk:   Aside from misdirecting mindless twaddle purposely designed to lead others away from the seriousness of the original message (such as reflected in this post). disinformation agent tim hill and company via their implementation of multiple fictitious masks, have totally stopped their three year campaign of libel and personal attacks upon my articles.   rk:  My personal take is that some of the AFAB Bullies have already been contacted by the FBI in their long drawn out investigation.  They now realize they will be held  responsible for their actions on these newsgroups over the last three years. rk:  The fear engendered by that realization, I perceive, has resulted in the recent total cessation of attacks upon my posts. rk:  Additional evidence to substantiate the existence of an on-going conspiracy, wouldn’t you say? rk:  Check the Deja News archives…You’ll see what I mean!                                           Ray Karczewski                           Christ! — Phil Harrison

The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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Christs with Amnesia Are you a Christ with amnesia? Do not be quick to prejudge and dismiss such a question as nonsense. With an open mind, step into the ethereal dimension of ancient secrets known and taught by the great world teachers and you realize they all have spoken one simple truth to mankind: "We are all one." The direct realization of this immutable fact is the key which unlocks the prison of the intellectual, mind-based Hell man has created for himself on this earth. Understanding how one’s wholistic nature has been stripped away through hypnotic pressures of living in a civilized society restores balance and clarity to one’s life. Do you possess the discernment to separate truth from fictitious images? If each of us had this ability, this collective world "of our own making" would never experience another day of war, poverty, starvation, violence, suffering or exploitation. Change in our world must start with change in ourselves. This is the only "new world order" necessary to bring peace to this planet. I guarantee you will never hear this message from your pulpit or government, regardless of where you live in the world. These tapes are a serious threat to the "present status quo." They contain a message your political and religious leaders do not want you to hear. The reason for it is quite obvious–their carefully constructed psychological hold over you would be broken, and they would lose their power. These tapes are for those "who have the eyes to see and the ears to hear," and are ready to bring fundamental change to their lives. The message of the tapes is not the product of nor is it affiliated with any religious or political organization. Their life-altering power is found in the transcendent essence upon which all of man’s power-oriented social structures are based. Listeners comments: "This new work has a personal quality about it . . .  A letter written by Jesus’ spiritual brother, whom then invites the reader to become family by also being Jesus’ brother. The ‘brothers’ can then share Christ Consciousness beyond space and time, in oneness . . . being spiritually whole . . . thereby no longer sharing, but being. This concept came across very clear." rk:  The above has been extracted from my homepage.  Its simple expression cannot be improved upon.  That is why I chose to display it as is. rk:  Many of you who read this have been following the controversy which has unfolded over the last three years on these newsgroups and are aware of the numerous attempts made to stop me from bringing to my sleeping brothers and sisters the very simple message that we are all "CHRISTS WITH AMNESIA."   rk:  The reason for the resistance is obvious.  Were such an "awakening" to take place, the world of man based in conditioned dualistic thought would come to an end, and we would usher in a New Consciousness for mankind. rk: I am to my world what my Brother Jesus was to His–a simple man of Truth.  I suffer no amnesia.  I am aware.  I am awake.  My awakeness in a world of entranced believers has precipitated the same violent opposition that Jesus faced in His time.  That is the nature of the relationship to the world a man of Truth has when exposing the dualistic illusions which rule civilized man through the conditioning of an entranced intellect. rk:  Much of the message of the tapes has been shared with you on these newsgroups over the past three years.  It would appear, however, that the simple essence has not been heard over the din caused by defensive religious cult-influenced minds and misdirecting politically oriented disinformation agents.  To hear the message in the silence of attention is quite a different experience.  It has the revelatory energy to awaken a sleeping consciousness without offending, for the essence of its Truth is unmistakable.  It is only  through the noise of conditioned intellects, resistant to change, that the judgment of "offensiveness" comes into being. rk:  One thing is very clear.  The content of these tapes threatens the present status quo of the "Old World Order." and exposes the sham of a "New World Order."  Those who rule this world do not want this message to be widely distributed. rk:  Go to my homepage.  Give it your undivided attention.  Let your awareness speak to you, and follow the counsel of your heart.  It is time to wake up as a species.  It is time we understand who we really are.  It is time for us to end our amnesia.                                       Ray Karczewski The human capacity to live independently, cooperatively, and with a love which transcends boundaries is the intrinsic nature of Supreme Intelligence.  This "Return to Grace" is the momentum which will bring about a "New Consciousness" on Earth for Mankind. Check out our Web Site: Ruminations of a Divine Anarchist. Raymond Karczewski  http://www.arkenterprises.com

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A second side note, I live in Dallas, Texas.  What benefit would 4WD provide other than the two days a year we get snow?  I have no plans to take the truck off-road so I don’t see that as a concern.

I’m about to buy a 2WD Suburban on the premise that the answer is "Nothing"… Maybe some of the posters here will change my mind, but the only uses I’ve heard of are snow, dirt, and traction on boat ramps.   One poster pointed out that if you’re stuck in a major freeway traffic jam, 4WD makes escape by, shall we say, unconventional means… a possibility. Penalties I see are over 2K more cost,  one more mechanical thing to fail, possibility of severe damage if the vehicle is towed (as by the local police if illegally parked….), and 500 lbs extra dead weight. One upside to me is that the vehicles look cooler with 16" tires…but bigger tires have a governing effect and so cut into gas milage and accelleration….

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A second side note, I live in Dallas, Texas.  What benefit would 4WD provide other than the two days a year we get snow?  I have no plans to take the truck off-road so I don’t see that as a concern. I’m about to buy a 2WD Suburban on the premise that the answer is "Nothing"…

I am interested in knowing why you chose the Suburban.  I don’t think I would need that much room, but I have considered the Ford Expedition which is 15" shorter than the Suburban and only $20 more a month to lease than a similar Explorer due to the very high resale value for the Expedition.  If you are planning to lease, what does your monthly cost look like?  I had seen other posts with $500+ monthly costs which is why I "overlooked" the Suburban/Tahoe the first time around.  (about $410 a month for the Expedition) Maybe some of the posters here will change my mind, but the only uses I’ve heard of are snow, dirt, and traction on boat ramps.   One poster pointed out that if you’re stuck in a major freeway traffic jam, 4WD makes escape by, shall we say, unconventional means… a possibility.

True, but why would you need 4WD for this.  I would think ground clearance would be more important here than 4WD.  In fact, I have jumped curbs and run across grass and mud in my 2WD Nissan Sentra.  Then again, it is front wheel drive.  I have gotten it out of places that my partner’s husband’s 2WD pickup truck (RWD) got stuck in. Penalties I see are over 2K more cost,  one more mechanical thing to fail, possibility of severe damage if the vehicle is towed (as by the local police if illegally parked….), and 500 lbs extra dead weight.

True on all counts. One upside to me is that the vehicles look cooler with 16" tires…but bigger tires have a governing effect and so cut into gas milage and accelleration….

Yes, the bigger tires always seem to look so much better.  However, I have read that ground clearance is actually reduced in the 4WD model due to extra parts. Thanks for the information.  If you have any other thoughts, please let me know… Jason Hegel Knight Technology & Computing

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I am interested in knowing why you chose the Suburban.  I don’t think I would need that much room, but I have considered the Ford Expedition which is 15" shorter than the Suburban and only $20 more a month to lease than a similar Explorer due to the very high resale value for the Expedition.

3 Reasons: 1)  The longer body is easier to fit my windsurfing stuff in to. Two-piece masts are about 7 1/2 feet long, longest rolled-up sails are about 6′ 10" long. 2) I sat in an Expedition, and the shoulder/elbow room just wasn’t there for me.   3) Computer people will tell you "Never, never buy release 1.0 of anything if you can help it.".     The Expedition is release 1.0.

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A second side note, I live in Dallas, Texas.  What benefit would 4WD provide other than the two days a year we get snow?  I have no plans to take the truck off-road so I don’t see that as a concern. I’m about to buy a 2WD Suburban on the premise that the answer is "Nothing"…

Nothing (assuming the following) 1) (Hard Part) Decide what size of tires you plan to run on the rig. 2) Buy a set of chains that will fit that size tire, and tensioners, etc. 3) Remember/learn (based on past lives) how to put these on. 4) Carry the chains always.  Chains work well in mud also. Option) Here in the Northwest, I can get a great deal on studded tires by visiting my local super-chain.  They stock a walnut shell retread that is pinned for studs, for about $65 ea. (great deal here for truck tires).  Then hit the local salvage yards for two steel rims.   Fast math here: If you save $2k by going 2wd, you spend $100 on chains, and $100 ea. rear tire for rubber and rim first winter.  Third winter, install new retreads at $150 total.  In three years you spend $450 in traction, and $150 every two years after.  Not accounting in inflation, you will not spend the $2k diference over the next twenty years (it works out to about 23 to 25 years, w/ 25 yrs at $2100).  That is with both chains and studded tires.  Not bad, I wish I could get the mud out of my veins and see figures like that, but we are all individuals, and I will keep my 4x$ (look at your keyboard for an explanation, no 4x$ is not a type-o). Maybe some of the posters here will change my mind, but the only uses I’ve heard of are snow, dirt, and traction on boat ramps.   One poster pointed out that if you’re stuck in a major freeway traffic jam, 4WD makes escape by, shall we say, unconventional means… a possibility.

If this is key, put good rubber on it say BFG All-Terrains or maybe even the Mud-Terrain (perhaps not that economically sensible for a 2wd). Penalties I see are over 2K more cost,  one more mechanical thing to fail, possibility of severe damage if the vehicle is towed (as by the local police if illegally parked….), and 500 lbs extra dead weight. One upside to me is that the vehicles look cooler with 16" tires…but bigger tires have a governing effect and so cut into gas milage and accelleration….

Owning a Ford with 16" rims, I have had a hell of a time finding the big, awesome tires.  I can find almost anystyle I want in a say something around a 33×10.5/15.  I have to buy a LT 255 85R16 to get close.  Then none of the manufs. have the style in the size I want.  I wish I had 15" rims, but only the 16" 1nd 16.5" comes in the HD 8 lug pattern that I know of. I hope this has helped, rather than my norm of confuse. Trev — Proud FORD owner : ‘84 F-250 HD 4×4 6.9 L Diesel Chevy too : ‘63 Chevy 3/4 T PU 2wd 350 w/ balls Both are *ugly* but sound.  Call me utilitarian, call me a college student (please forgive poor spelling).

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To all Ford Explorer 97 XLT Owners, I am looking at a 97 XLT for personal and business use.  I plan to use it to haul equipment from job site to job site along with my partner.  My current vehicle just isn’t up to the task. I have never owned an American vehicle before nor have I owned a truck.  I have heard horror stories regarding the reliability of American vehicles and I am used to Japanese quality.  I own a 93 Nissan Sentra which I bought new and have never had it into the dealer for anything other than scheduled maintaince.   I am hoping to get some insight on what I would expect with a vehicle such as this.  Is the handling very different from a 4-door car?  What is a 3.73 Limited Slip Axle?  I have seen this reference with the tow package.  I might use the towing, but what does the 3.73 do? I have not actually driven one yet as I find dealerships to be rather unfriendly towards "browsers".  My thinking was that I could perhaps get some insight into this vehicle and Ford in general from this newsgroup. A side note, as this truck will be used for business, our account suggested leasing due to lower capitol outlay and the tax write-off.  Is Ford Credit a good choice or are third party leasing companies such as AutoFlex, D & M Leasing, or Members 1st better choices. A second side note, I live in Dallas, Texas.  What benefit would 4WD provide other than the two days a year we get snow?  I have no plans to take the truck off-road so I don’t see that as a concern. Thank you for your time, I appreciate all information and assistance. — Jason Hegel Knight Technology My opinions are my own and in no way reflect the opinions of Knight Technology.

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In article <4scao5$…@news.usit.net> Joe Belk, bel…@usit.net writes: >Now the connection has been made between the NEA’s sex education >preferences and the possibly criminal, possibly fraudulent research of >Alfred Kinsey fifty years ago. This research appears under scrutiny to >be akin to research conducted by German Nazis on Jewish subjects in >the 1940’s, ……..

You must read a lot of nazi research……… Have any improvements been made lately??? Just wondering, you seem like the one who would know!!! Member NEA/VEA/VBEA and proud to teach!!