Accounting Talk » Accountants » Taking Celexa in the morning

Taking Celexa in the morning

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I work as an accountant. Need to be switched on and active all day. The med. is working well but I take it in the morning (20mgs). I seem to be too laid back during the day now. Will taking it of a night make a difference? Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Paul Bailey Sydney PS. Does Lexapro overcome the Celexa side effect of lack of libido-organism?

In my experience, the time of day when you take it makes little difference. But what the heck, you have nothing to lose by trying it at night or even in late afternoon. Mason Barge "If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee." — Abraham Lincoln

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No it does not trust me. PS. Does Lexapro overcome the Celexa side effect of lack of libido-organism?

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<<I work as an accountant. Need to be switched on and active all day. The med. is working well but I take it in the morning (20mgs). I seem to be too laid back during the day now. Will taking it of a night make a difference? Any advice will be greatly appreciated. ~~~~~~ i have great advice (as usual.. god, it’s tiring bein the "wealth of knowledge" on here, yanno?) since accountants, by nature, are most always the "life of the party", the "john travolta" of the "stayin alive" generation, always ready with that bottomless pit of wit, humor, as well as the ultimate chick magnet … (i hear Brad Pitt lies and says he’s an accountant just to be more popular sometimes) i’d suggest you appreciate your uniqueness as a "laid back" accountant. just think.. you will the STAND OUT DUDE at the next RIP- ROARNNNNnnn accountant convention !!!! visit the humidor, select a cigar, lay back with a box of wine (classy stuff only, of course) and announce "DON’T BUG ME … I’M PONDERIN HOW HIP IS IS TA BE ME, AND HOW IT MUST SUCK TA BE YOU"… BAM ! a new "accountant niche"… i’m tellin ya.. take that Celexa, <grooooooovy, baby.. right on… peace out…. make love, now war… elvis is dead, now it’s all about PAUL, the new and improved accountant image creator extraordinairre ::passin da hukka… thinkin Paul’s optin ta bogart that jernt, my friend:: ::ahhhhhhhhhhin’ along with Paul:: yes, yes…. it’s nice ta be you.. and you onlookers???? DON’T HATE ! and you asked….<< Does Lexapro overcome the Celexa side effect of lack of libido-organism? organism? i’m thinkin that was "accountant" for orgasm…. no, but your new image will.

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Accounting Talk » Finance Accounting » Bookkeeping software

Bookkeeping software

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Does anyone know if there is a freeware program of a simple double entry bookkeeping system?

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Try this link: http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/search.html Some of these programs are shareware, some are free.

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but I am not sure which one I should pick. I have = heard a lot about Quicken, Peachtree, and Quick Books, but I want to = know from y’all which one is more widely used by your clients.

Here’s a vote for Quick Books! I think that it is the best accounting software there is! Rose’s Web Page Designs http://members.aol.com/Roseb44170/designs.htm

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Go Quick Book Pro if you can. more stuff for the future

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – but I am not sure which one I should pick. I have = heard a lot about Quicken, Peachtree, and Quick Books, but I want to = know from y’all which one is more widely used by your clients. Here’s a vote for Quick Books! I think that it is the best accounting software there is! Rose’s Web Page Designs http://members.aol.com/Roseb44170/designs.htm

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I went out and bought Quickbooks and although it is not meant for personal finances, I started running my personal finances through it, just like a business would.

This is what i want to do!! Just for same purpose you did… i.e. learn a bit abt it. However…. Im curious…..anyway to run Quickbooks under Linux?

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I went out and bought Quickbooks and although it is not meant for personal finances, I started running my personal finances through it, just like a business would. This is what i want to do!! Just for same purpose you did… i.e. learn a bit abt it. However…. Im curious…..anyway to run Quickbooks under Linux?

I do not know the answer to your question about Quickbooks. I use MoneyDance which is available from moneydance.com in both Windows and Linux versions.

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I use MoneyDance which is available from moneydance.com in both Windows and Linux versions.

That might be an even better solution…i,e, get an app available for BOTh operating systems! Thanks!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – G’day Jan Yes, I’m Aussie listen to Preston he gave you good advice BUT there are other software book-keeping /accounting packages you can download for free (trials only).I am in the same situation maybe being a single parent re-entering the workforce after quite a few years I knew I had to learn something more & chose Technology & Finance. Unfotunately this newsgroup are soooo US orientated they have blinkers on compared to what other countries are producing ITwise .There is MYOB an Australian complete accounting system they have various systems with consideration for other countries accounting needs THEY have also just announced a merger with Solution 6 a world wide accounting system. SAP are a complete & total large business system created in Ireland apparently can cover all business needs, also I’ve heard of SUN no idea what the fuck that is & micropay. Sorry to burst your bubble but after 6 weeks of monitoring this site the arrogance of American Accoutants towards book-keepers & other countries capabilities astounds me they truly are the class clown

sorry mate !! no arrogance intended !! I doubt if many on this newsgroup have used "Sun System" SAP, etc. most of the low end packages here are also used for the US income tax pecularities and they would not apply to other countries – – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In a few months I will be entering the working world again. I am pursuing my accounting degree and have 17 classes left. With that being said, I have no knowledge, classroom or otherwise, in any of the bookkeeping software used. I want to try and get a job as a bookkeeper, I do have an AA in accounting as it is. I am sure you can see my dilemma; though I have a good deal of classroom knowledge of accounting and inventories, I lack real world experience many prospective employers prefer. I would like to buy one of the bookkeeping software packages to become familiar with, but I am not sure which one I should pick. I have heard a lot about Quicken, Peachtree, and Quick Books, but I want to know from y’all which one is more widely used by your clients. TIA Janice You’ll probably be hired by someone with None of the Above. If you want to familiarize yourself with one of those, Peachtree is most like the software used by larger businesses, Quicken is least like it. Maybe you could volunteer to do some bookkeeping at a Not for Profit or religious organization. That would give you real experience.

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G’day Jan Yes, I’m Aussie listen to Preston he gave you good advice BUT there are other software book-keeping /accounting packages you can download for free (trials only).I am in the same situation maybe being a single parent re-entering the workforce after quite a few years I knew I had to learn something more & chose Technology & Finance. Unfotunately this newsgroup are soooo US orientated they have blinkers on compared to what other countries are producing ITwise .There is MYOB an Australian complete accounting system they have various systems with consideration for other countries accounting needs THEY have also just announced a merger with Solution 6 a world wide accounting system. SAP are a complete & total large business system created in Ireland apparently can cover all business needs, also I’ve heard of SUN no idea what the fuck that is & micropay. Sorry to burst your bubble but after 6 weeks of monitoring this site the arrogance of American Accoutants towards book-keepers & other countries capabilities astounds me they truly are the class clown

In a few months I will be entering the working world again. I am pursuing

my accounting degree and have 17 classes left. With that being said, I have no knowledge, classroom or otherwise, in any of the bookkeeping software used. I want to try and get a job as a bookkeeper, I do have an AA in accounting as it is. I am sure you can see my dilemma; though I have a good deal of classroom knowledge of accounting and inventories, I lack real world experience many prospective employers prefer. I would like to buy one of the bookkeeping software packages to become familiar with, but I am not sure which one I should pick. I have heard a lot about Quicken, Peachtree, and Quick Books, but I want to know from y’all which one is more widely used by your clients. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TIA Janice You’ll probably be hired by someone with None of the Above. If you want to familiarize yourself with one of those, Peachtree is most like the software used by larger businesses, Quicken is least like it. Maybe you could volunteer to do some bookkeeping at a Not for Profit or religious organization. That would give you real experience.

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I agree. I would also gain some experience with Excel. Many companies supplement their accounting packages with spreadsheets in one way or another. Even if your eventual employer doesn’t use quickbooks or excel you will have shown an ability to learn and this will help you learn new systems as needed. Good luck! Marcus

Thanks, Mark. Luckily enough, I do have excel on my home computer, and am a little familiar with it. Janice

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I would definitely recommend that you become familiar with Quickbooks. This is the most popular accounting software package for small business. If you go to work for a small company or become a bookeeper for a public accounting firm, a working knowledge of Quickbooks will help you hit the ground running. About six years ago I was feeling much like you are now. I went out and bought Quickbooks and although it is not meant for personal finances, I started running my personal finances through it, just like a business would. I entered what little assets I had, checking and savings accounts and a vehicle. As liabilities I entered loans and outstanding credit card balances. I key-punched in all of the monthly checks that I wrote and all of the activity off of my credit cards. Each month I reconciled my bank statements in Quickbooks and ran reports of my expenditures. Doing all this really gave me some great experience in Quickbooks. Quickbooks also comes with some fake companies that you can practice running different types of transactions through for an even broader range of experience. I don’t want to sound like a Quickbooks commercial because I am in no way affiliated with them, but I have now been in public accounting for about 5 years, and Quickbooks is what I see small business clients using the most. One reason it is so popular is because it is designed for use by people who are not accountants. This can actually be pretty dangerous, non-accountants writing checks, posting journal entries, and trying to do bank reconciliations. What I find myself often doing is fixing a mess that someone else created in Quickbooks. If you go to work in public accounting and have the ability to go to a client’s office and help them out of an accounting quagmire, then you will be very valuable to your employer. You did say that you wanted to be a bookeeper and that’s why I am assuming you will be working in a small business environment. If you said you were hoping to become a staff accountant, which would suggest a more corporate environment, then you would most likely be using a more upscale package which is not as easy to come by for an individual. To get experience with other higher end software maybe you could get a part-time position or an internship somewhere. Good luck! Preston Singleton, CPA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – .. In a few months I will be entering the working world again. I am pursuing my accounting degree and have 17 classes left. With that being said, I have no knowledge, classroom or otherwise, in any of the bookkeeping software used. I want to try and get a job as a bookkeeper, I do have an AA in accounting as it is. I am sure you can see my dilemma; though I have a good deal of classroom knowledge of accounting and inventories, I lack real world experience many prospective employers prefer. I would like to buy one of the bookkeeping software packages to become familiar with, but I am not sure which one I should pick. I have heard a lot about Quicken, Peachtree, and Quick Books, but I want to know from y’all which one is more widely used by your clients. TIA Janice You’ll probably be hired by someone with None of the Above. If you want to familiarize yourself with one of those, Peachtree is most like the software used by larger businesses, Quicken is least like it. Maybe you could volunteer to do some bookkeeping at a Not for Profit or religious organization. That would give you real experience. I’ll agree you are better off with real experience than just playing around with accounting software but go ahead and download the free trial offers of quickbooks and peachtree. You can enter checks, pay bills, etc. and create a balance sheet / income statement for learning purposes and it doesn’t hurt to have this knowledge of low end accounting programs

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.. In a few months I will be entering the working world again. I am pursuing

my accounting degree and have 17 classes left. With that being said, I have no knowledge, classroom or otherwise, in any of the bookkeeping software used. I want to try and get a job as a bookkeeper, I do have an AA in accounting as it is. I am sure you can see my dilemma; though I have a good deal of classroom knowledge of accounting and inventories, I lack real world experience many prospective employers prefer. I would like to buy one of the bookkeeping software packages to become familiar with, but I am not sure which one I should pick. I have heard a lot about Quicken, Peachtree, and Quick Books, but I want to know from y’all which one is more widely used by your clients. TIA Janice You’ll probably be hired by someone with None of the Above. If you want to familiarize yourself with one of those, Peachtree is most like the software used by larger businesses, Quicken is least like it. Maybe you could volunteer to do some bookkeeping at a Not for Profit or religious organization. That would give you real experience.

I’ll agree you are better off with real experience than just playing around with accounting software but go ahead and download the free trial offers of quickbooks and peachtree. You can enter checks, pay bills, etc. and create a balance sheet / income statement for learning purposes and it doesn’t hurt to have this knowledge of low end accounting programs

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In a few months I will be entering the working world again. I am pursuing my accounting degree and have 17 classes left. With that being said, I have no knowledge, classroom or otherwise, in any of the bookkeeping software used. I want to try and get a job as a bookkeeper, I do have an AA in accounting as it is. I am sure you can see my dilemma; though I have a good deal of classroom knowledge of accounting and inventories, I lack real world experience many prospective employers prefer. I would like to buy one of the bookkeeping software packages to become familiar with, but I am not sure which one I should pick. I have heard a lot about Quicken, Peachtree, and Quick Books, but I want to know from y’all which one is more widely used by your clients. TIA Janice

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You’ll probably be hired by someone with None of the Above. If you want to familiarize yourself with one of those, Peachtree is most like the software used by larger businesses, Quicken is least like it. Maybe you could volunteer to do some bookkeeping at a Not for Profit or religious organization. That would give you real experience.

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Accounting Talk » Finance Accounting » The crime

The crime

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When Kuwait got its independence from Britain in 1961, Iraq revived an old claim that Kuwait had been part of an Ottoman province in southern Iraq and was, therefore, rightfully Iraq’s. But, after intense global pressure, Iraq recognized Kuwait in 1963. There were occasional clashes along the Iraqi-Kuwaiti border since then, and the relation between the two countries continued to be tense. However, during the Iran-Iraq War (1980-1988), Kuwait assisted Iraq with loans and diplomatic backing. By 1990, Iraq claimed that Kuwait was pumping oil from a field that straddled the Iraqi-Kuwaiti border and was not sharing the revenue. Iraq also accused Kuwait of producing more oil, than allowed under quotas set by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC). Iraq’s complaints against Kuwait were mostly about money in the beginning, but later it revived its land claim. With the explicit purpose of attacking Kuwait, Iraqi forces began to mobilize near the Kuwaiti border in the summer of 1990. Several Arab states persuaded the two countries to negotiate their differences; but the Iraqi government decided to annex Kuwait. Only four months before the invasion, a group of American senators had visited Saddam in Baghdad. Among them was Senator Howard Metzenbaum, who assured Saddam: "

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Accounting Talk » Finance Accounting » November posts

November posts

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I’m getting alot of November 2001 posts coming through on this newsgroup. Anyone else experiencing this? This seems to be the only group it is happening on. "It’s God’s job to sort out what to do with terrorists. It’s our job to deliver them to God. " I’m allergic to spam. Remove "No Spam" from my e-mail address to respond. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I’m getting alot of November 2001 posts coming through on this newsgroup. Anyone else experiencing this?

Not at the moment. But the reason for it, if it happens usually is that some rogue site gets its newsgroup messages’ expirys wrong, and/or tampers with them, and repushes those postings forward into the system. It is annoying. This seems to be the only group it is happening on.

This is not necessarily an affliction of a particular newsgroup. Such things happen and have happened on several newsgroups. I’m allergic to spam. Remove "No Spam" from my e-mail address to respond.

What "No Spam"? Incidentally, I do not need to remove it (even if it appeared) to respond. I would need it were I to email you. All the best, Timo — Prof. Timo Salmi ftp & http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ archives 193.166.120.5 Department of Accounting and Business Finance ; University of Vaasa Acc. Journals Links http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/opas/jott/jottjour.html

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Our news server was doing the same thing on all groups for about a week. Then it was down for a day. When it came back up it had expired all history except the last two weeks on all newsgroups. We are trying to reach someone there to have the expiry pushed back at least 90 days but have not been able to find anyone aware of the problem. ……. John.-

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Accounting Talk » Accounting » Swimming good for fat loss?

Swimming good for fat loss?

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Because my feet are flat, rigid, and borderline arthritic, I am looking for an alternative to running, walking, and fitness machines in my quest to lose fat. I am considering swimming, but I have heard that it is not an effective way to lose fat. Some people tell me that the body tries to retain fat as insulation when one is in the water, so that swimming is not effective for fat loss. Is this true? Is swimming as effective as a cross country ski machine or an elliptical trainer for fat loss? Are there any other newsgroups that I should consult for this issue? Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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i’m not really certain about the correct response about the swimming but i would guess that you may be correct to a degree…. what i would suggest though is that should you decide to start a crosstraining regime you should definitely get some good inner shoe supports for your feet. if you are in the US sporting goods stores like Dick’s have many styles of arch support, along with places like walmart etc where you can actually take your shoes in, insert the supports and try them out to see how they feel….i will say though that walmart may not let you do that in the store so you’d probably have to go buy some and then return them, but to me it seems like a waste of money to do it that way 9mostly since i hate returning things)…my suggestion like i said before is go to a local sporting goods store and ask them about the supports…try a few out, pick one you seem to like the most and then you could go for the less expensive brands at the other stores….that way you’ll also have more of an idea of what is out there, and what would be best for you. Julie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Because my feet are flat, rigid, and borderline arthritic, I am looking for an alternative to running, walking, and fitness machines in my quest to lose fat. I am considering swimming, but I have heard that it is not an effective way to lose fat. Some people tell me that the body tries to retain fat as insulation when one is in the water, so that swimming is not effective for fat loss. Is this true? Is swimming as effective as a cross country ski machine or an elliptical trainer for fat loss? Are there any other newsgroups that I should consult for this issue? Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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As far as I can tell, it is working for me! I try and swim between a quarter mile and a half-mile twice a week. However, I also use a ski machine once or twice a week as well. But one thing I know for sure, there is less fat on my hips I can grab onto!!! I swim at a HR of 120, once in awhile, 126. So I’m probably (accounting for the fact that HR drops in the pool) working in my 75% zone. Anything is likely to be more effective for fat loss than doing nothing <G! I’d say give it a try. Cynthia G 262/222/200 (for now) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Because my feet are flat, rigid, and borderline arthritic, I am looking for an alternative to running, walking, and fitness machines in my quest to lose fat. I am considering swimming, but I have heard that it is not an effective way to lose fat. Some people tell me that the body tries to retain fat as insulation when one is in the water, so that swimming is not effective for fat loss. Is this true? Is swimming as effective as a cross country ski machine or an elliptical trainer for fat loss? Are there any other newsgroups that I should consult for this issue? Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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The insulation issue refers to when you are swimming in VERY cold water, then yes, your body does try to insulate itself. But if you are just swimming in your local pool and not sub-zero weather, then this does not apply. Swimming is a great no-impact workout, it depends how hard you push yourself. Try water aerobics. Jennifer in Vancouver 140/125.5/110 "We became homeless for a time, but it was in Canada, so I thought we’d gone camping." – Jim Carrey [seeking Bonnie Sharon Porter from Ontario born 1958] * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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I have found swimming great for fat loss and toning up.Although obviously you get a much better rate of fat loss it you diet also. Not stupid diets that never work and leave you hungry, but just cutting down on sweet things and booze! But I find swimming a great way to exercise and relax. I am currently swimming three mornings per week and I alternate the swimming with stretch exercise and sit ups at home, and gentle hill walking on weekends. And I am really loosing the inches! Cheers Mair * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Someone correct me if I am wrong, please… But I believe that swimming is a great exercise. The fat as an insulation thing, I guess is a misinterpretation of how your body loses or retains fat. I am expeculating here that people or you, got to this conclusion based on the fact that when you exercise, or do some work outs, like swimming, your fat seems to get colder… In a swimming pool in addition to the fact that your body is adjusting to the water temperature, there is also the fact that your body is deriving energy from fat, and when fat gives energy, it gives heat, which means, it loses heat, and when you finish working out, it is (the fat around your body)colder… colder doesn’t mean it is not being used… Just my two cents… Lourdes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Because my feet are flat, rigid, and borderline arthritic, I am looking for an alternative to running, walking, and fitness machines in my quest to lose fat. I am considering swimming, but I have heard that it is not an effective way to lose fat. Some people tell me that the body tries to retain fat as insulation when one is in the water, so that swimming is not effective for fat loss. Is this true? Is swimming as effective as a cross country ski machine or an elliptical trainer for fat loss? Are there any other newsgroups that I should consult for this issue? Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Swimming is a great workout and does burns fat. And the best part tends to be swimming can overall tone over other kinds of machines. I loved the my back looked when I swam. Rosebud 14/12/6

my absolute favorite thing about swimming? no jarring of the joints! rosie

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hi K! i remember when COVERT BAILEY was first starting his INFOMERCIAL stuff and he made a comment (which he later retracted) that swimming was NOT aerobic and NOT fat burning! he, of course, was wrong! — "To speak ill of others is a dishonest way of praising ourselves." — W.Durant read and post, its a commitment! rosie email: remember to REMOVETHIS – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Swimming is fine for fat loss. In general the confusion re swimming and fat loss seems to stem from the stated "fact" that professional or competing swimmers tend to have higher body fat percentages than other athletes of similar age and body style. Kali Blonde, aka K in Cali : Because my feet are flat, rigid, and borderline arthritic, I am looking : for an alternative to running, walking, and fitness machines in my : quest to lose fat. I am considering swimming, but I have heard that it : is not an effective way to lose fat. Some people tell me that the body : tries to retain fat as insulation when one is in the water, so that : swimming is not effective for fat loss. : : Is this true? Is swimming as effective as a cross country ski machine : or an elliptical trainer for fat loss? : : Are there any other newsgroups that I should consult for this issue? : : : Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Swimming is fine for fat loss. In general the confusion re swimming and fat loss seems to stem from the stated "fact" that professional or competing swimmers tend to have higher body fat percentages than other athletes of similar age and body style. Kali Blonde, aka K in Cali

I used to be a swimmer. And yes you do have more fat, because if you didn’t you would sink. The fat helps you stay on top of the water not down at the bottom. I can tell you that it was work keeping the "fat" on. This led me to some very bad eating habits I’m fighting right now. Swimming is a great workout and does burns fat. And the best part tends to be swimming can overall tone over other kinds of machines. I loved the my back looked when I swam. Rosebud 14/12/6

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: Because my feet are flat, rigid, and borderline arthritic, I am looking : for an alternative to running, walking, and fitness machines in my : quest to lose fat. I am considering swimming, but I have heard that it : is not an effective way to lose fat. Some people tell me that the body : tries to retain fat as insulation when one is in the water, so that : swimming is not effective for fat loss. : : Is this true? Is swimming as effective as a cross country ski machine : or an elliptical trainer for fat loss? : : Are there any other newsgroups that I should consult for this issue? : : : Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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You do, of course, have an excellent pair of orthotics, yes? Kali Blonde, aka K in Cali

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i agree! fat loss from water aerobics (which are safe for us arthritics) is just one of the benefits. being limber is THE BEST benefit! — Today, i will be tolerant of myself, from that i will learn appropriate tolerance of others! http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm read and post, its a commitment! rosie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have found swimming great for fat loss and toning up.Although obviously you get a much better rate of fat loss it you diet also. Not stupid diets that never work and leave you hungry, but just cutting down on sweet things and booze! But I find swimming a great way to exercise and relax. I am currently swimming three mornings per week and I alternate the swimming with stretch exercise and sit ups at home, and gentle hill walking on weekends. And I am really loosing the inches! Cheers Mair * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Is this true? Is swimming as effective as a cross country ski machine or an elliptical trainer for fat loss?

Swimming is a FANTASTIC way to help you with your weight loss. Anything is better than nothing, and if you are up for it…. GO!!! Keep us posted on your success!! Thom

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The thing about swimming is that you work EVERYTHING. It is excellent exercise for the cardiovascular system. Water creates resistance. IF you do it vigorously enough, you probably will lose some fat. You will probably build some muscle which is important when people are losing weight. The first thing you lose is water, then muscle, then fat. When you exercise during weight loss, as you build muscle, the body will begin to burn more fat. So implimenting some form of exercise is important. You may even want to try water aerobics which is going to be less stressful on the joints than a ‘land’ aerobics class. You also might want to try bicylcing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Because my feet are flat, rigid, and borderline arthritic, I am looking for an alternative to running, walking, and fitness machines in my quest to lose fat. I am considering swimming, but I have heard that it is not an effective way to lose fat. Some people tell me that the body tries to retain fat as insulation when one is in the water, so that swimming is not effective for fat loss. Is this true? Is swimming as effective as a cross country ski machine or an elliptical trainer for fat loss? Are there any other newsgroups that I should consult for this issue? Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

– Sheila "Top of the world, Ma!" Before you buy.

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I think that depends. I know I have a pretty good kick going, and frankly, it is my legs that often are the most sore after a swim workout. I do also sidestroke and let me tell you, a scissors kick works the legs quite well… it is certainly the main propulsion for that particular stroke! YMMV. If you want to work the legs more, I believe fins can help. The thought just makes me cringe right now…. Cynthia G – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Water aerobics would probably be more effective than regular swimming. Swimming is certainly far better than no exercise, but most swimming involves the arms much more than the legs, so your largest muscle groups which burn the most calories aren’t doing as much of the work. — "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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quest to lose fat. I am considering swimming, but I have heard that it is not an effective way to lose fat. Some people tell me that the body tries to retain fat as insulation when one is in the water, so that swimming is not effective for fat loss. Is this true? Is swimming as effective as a cross country ski machine or an elliptical trainer for fat loss?

Water aerobics would probably be more effective than regular swimming. Swimming is certainly far better than no exercise, but most swimming involves the arms much more than the legs, so your largest muscle groups which burn the most calories aren’t doing as much of the work. — "There’s a seeker born every minute."

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okay, time to put my .02 in . I do water aerobics and believe it or not I get hot and sweaty(at least my forehead does) in the water. I mean I know that I am doing, in comparision to regular aerobics, low impact aerobics doing water aerobics but who cares as long as it does the job. I also do the eliptical machine two to three times a week. I will tell you I feel better when I do the water aerobics v/s the eliptical. I also seem to lose more weight when I do more water aerobics than eliptical. As far as the insulation thing goes the temp in my pool at the gym is close to tepid. I think that is why I get so hot. Sending you encouraging thoughts, Teresa 268/225/under 200 by 00

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Shoo, fly!

Question:

[as a fly repellant suggestion] Try "skin-so-soft," an Avon product. I travelled in Sub-Saharan Africa and in the Far East with people who used this stuff and swore by it. This ’skin-so-soft’ was discredited in Consumer Report and Popular Science several years ago so take the African and Eastern swearing with grains of salt.

Jen: Dunno about the magazines, but the people I travelled with, as I said, swore by it. Deet (in many brand forms) is effective against mosquitoes.

Although it will degrade the integrity of any plastic or rubber it comes in contact with. — Charles "Stretch" Ledford STRETCH PHOTOGRAPHY "North America and the Entire World" http://www.GoStretch.com

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This is sort of changing the subject a bit but I don’t want to start a whole new thread over this: Has anyone else had the pleasure of inhaling a fly of some kind? I have had this happen several times during the last couple of months. Once was on my bike and I almost choked. (‘Twas a big buzzing thing with flapping wings, etc.) For the life of me, I cannot get them out of my windpipe without eventually swallowing the critter. Any ideas as to how to remove it before it becomes food? Ken K. Chairman, Department of Redundancy Department

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[specific of fly inhalation snipped] For the life of me, I cannot get them out of my windpipe without eventually swallowing the critter. Any ideas as to how to remove it before it becomes food?

Swallow a spider. I knew an old woman who swallowed a fly, I don’t know why she swallowed a fly, perhaps she’ll die. Jennifer — ask me I’ll tell you about the spider

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unmitigated audacity to write: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [specific of fly inhalation snipped] For the life of me, I cannot get them out of my windpipe without eventually swallowing the critter. Any ideas as to how to remove it before it becomes food? Swallow a spider. I knew an old woman who swallowed a fly, I don’t know why she swallowed a fly, perhaps she’ll die. Jennifer — ask me I’ll tell you about the spider

You made me snort my coffee out my nostrils and all over my desk with that one. Ken K. Chairman, Department of Redundancy Department

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Richter)had the unmitigated audacity to write: Well it works for me. So what should I do, not use it? It seems that I am not the only one it works on judging from the posts here. <snipped So what is going on here? There are several possibilities. One that you mention is that there could be a weird interaction with your skin. Possible, but it seems unlikely– if were the case, Avon would be all over that, by bundling your type of skin oil with SSS to make an undeniably working bug repellant for everyone. Another is that, as someone mentioned, SSS is now shipped with a citrinella repellant. So, you could have gotten the effects of that.

No, it happened in either 1983 or 1984 the first time. The SSS I borrowed was not repellant designed, it was made for keeping skin soft. It was one of those scouting tips that are passed around from Scoutmaster to Scoutmaster. I saw it working on a boy scout, borrowed it and it kept me from being bitten by the black flies. There is another possibility. Your personal experience might not have been scientific. The fact that the temperature, humidity, light, etc. were very likely varying from the pre-SSS and post-SSS experience means that you can’t compare your bug interactions on an on-par basis. Also, did you actually count bug bites with and without using SSS? Is there any quantitative evidence at all? Probably not. (You could have tested SSS by using it on one arm only, and counting the bug bite differential at the end of the evening, but who would want to that?) So, we are left with your personal feeling that it worked for you. There is nothing wrong with that– the placebo effect can go a long way towards making one comfortable. But it is no substitute for a proper scientific accounting of whether SSS really repels bugs.

All I said was that it worked for me and some of the others here on this n.g. No, I didn’t count bug bites on each arm nor conduct laboratory experiments out there in the woods, I just was being eaten alive and saw that the kid was not bothered by the black flies. I used it and didn’t get bitten anymore. Period. I can’t explain it nor do I want to. I am not a scientist, I am a cop. I just barely have a firm grip on police officer. Ken K. Chairman, Department of Redundancy Department

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I have a tube of bug repellent that my Dr. suggested I try, it’s called Ultrathon and it does contain deet, but according to him the deet is attached to large polymer molecules that slow down the absorbtion of deet into your skin. Who knows. In any case, I got it from the pharmacist (it’s not perscription, but it’s behind the counter), and it works really well. And so far, I don’t glow in the dark. –Rachel — R. R. Bishop Department of Materials Science and Engineering Northwestern University Proud fan of the Chicago Fire, 1998 US and MLS Cup Champions!

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Well it works for me. So what should I do, not use it? It seems that I am not the only one it works on judging from the posts here.

What do you mean when you say "it works for me?" Perhaps you mean that the bugs were bothering you, then you put on SSS, and then the bugs stopped bothering you as much. Or perhaps you were bothered by bugs one night and the next night you used SSS and didn’t have a bug problem. Either of these would lead a reasonable person to a conclusion that "it works for me." The contradicting evidence, though, is substantial. In quantitative scientific tests by Consumer Reports, SSS does not repel bugs at all. So what is going on here? There are several possibilities. One that you mention is that there could be a weird interaction with your skin. Possible, but it seems unlikely– if were the case, Avon would be all over that, by bundling your type of skin oil with SSS to make an undeniably working bug repellant for everyone. Another is that, as someone mentioned, SSS is now shipped with a citrinella repellant. So, you could have gotten the effects of that. There is another possibility. Your personal experience might not have been scientific. The fact that the temperature, humidity, light, etc. were very likely varying from the pre-SSS and post-SSS experience means that you can’t compare your bug interactions on an on-par basis. Also, did you actually count bug bites with and without using SSS? Is there any quantitative evidence at all? Probably not. (You could have tested SSS by using it on one arm only, and counting the bug bite differential at the end of the evening, but who would want to that?) So, we are left with your personal feeling that it worked for you. There is nothing wrong with that– the placebo effect can go a long way towards making one comfortable. But it is no substitute for a proper scientific accounting of whether SSS really repels bugs. -Steffi

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Down here in southern Maryland (state bird- deer fly, state flower- satellite dish) I have to use DEET when I’m running on my favorite trails through the woods. I read the label and buy the least concentrated form of DEET that I can find. For me, a 3-6% solution of DEET works as well as the higher concentrations. My hope is that I’ll be less likely to develop a chemical sensitivity to the weaker solution. Incidentally, last night on television (Dateline) I caught the tale end of a story inre mosquito repellent. Seems mosquitoes are attracted to lactate producing bodies. Gotta be a moral there somewhere. -regards, Terry Waggoner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone make any recs for an insect repellant that really works on biting flies *and* doesn’t contain DEET? I have tried several citronella-based products but the flies don’t even hesitate. Thanks, Katrina

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unmitigated audacity to write: Well here is another supporter of Skin-So-Soft. I was an Assistant Scoutmaster with a troop we took up to the Adirondacs in NY State one summer and we were getting eaten alive by the famous black flies. I borrowed a kid’s Skin-So-Soft his mom had given him and found it to work perfectly. If works perfectly means your Skin was So Soft afterwards, then it worked.

Yes, it did feel nice. But at least the little bastards left me alone afterward. No, not the kids, the flies. But I’ve snipped and pasted a Post from alt.folklore.urban which was originally and appropriately entitled Head-So-Soft: [begin quote]

-long quote snipped- [end quote] Jennifer

Well it works for me. So what should I do, not use it? It seems that I am not the only one it works on judging from the posts here. Could it be the chemical makeup of my skin working with the SSS? Ken K. Chairman, Department of Redundancy Department

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A company here in Ottawa, Lee Valley Tools, sells Deer Fly Patches which I am told are effective. It is a sticky patch you apply on the back of your hat/cap. The deer fly circles, finds a nice place to land, and… can’t get away. No more flying around your head. Disposal is up to you. Personally I use DEET if the bugs are really bad on the theory that the few hours exposure I get for the year can’t be any worse than the exposure to exhaust, sun, pesticides and cable t.v. I am already receiving. Doesn’t seem to stop the Mule Flies though. Richard (down 21 pounds and counting) Stoparczyk.

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Same here. Every time I pass a certain spot on my normal loop, out comes the resident deer fly. I come back from a run with bruises on my head from hitting myself. -Phil

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SSS works !!!

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unmitigated audacity to write: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [as a fly repellant suggestion] Try "skin-so-soft," an Avon product. I travelled in Sub-Saharan Africa and in the Far East with people who used this stuff and swore by it. This ’skin-so-soft’ was discredited in Consumer Report and Popular Science several years ago so take the African and Eastern swearing with grains of salt. Deet (in many brand forms) is effective against mosquitoes. Deer flies and Horse flies? I’ve never seen anything short of physical deterence (i.e. a loose fitting cotton shirt, cap, and a good swat). Jennifer

Well here is another supporter of Skin-So-Soft. I was an Assistant Scoutmaster with a troop we took up to the Adirondacs in NY State one summer and we were getting eaten alive by the famous black flies. I borrowed a kid’s Skin-So-Soft his mom had given him and found it to work perfectly. And it smelled a lot better than the 100% Deet I had been trying to use. Ken K. Chairman, Department of Redundancy Department

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If works perfectly means your Skin was So Soft afterwards, then it worked. But I’ve snipped and pasted a Post from alt.folklore.urban which was originally and appropriately entitled Head-So-Soft: [begin quote] Some questions have arisen concerning the efficacy of the Avon cosmetic "Skin So Soft" in repelling insects. I pointed out that a Consumer Reports test in July 1993 concluded it was essentially useless for this. People are asking "how then can it be advertised for this?" A good question! Indeed, a question so good, that I decided to pose it myself to the Avon consumer products hotline, at 1-800 367-2866. I spoke to agent "Buffy", and she gave me this information: Skin So Soft is not one product, but a family of moisturizers Avon gets a lot of enquiries from the clueless, about using SSS lotions as bug repellents Avon finally got a clue, and formulated a new SSS product within the last two months. This contains sunscreen, and… Insect repellent! Yay! It has been tested and approved by the FDA as a bug repellent and so can be advertised as such. However, the new SSS lotion uses oil of citronella as the active ingredient, rather than, as Buffy quaintly put it "chemicals". So I assume that, like the earlier formulation, it will be essentially uneffective against insects. It is only the repellents containing DEET (a known carcinogen) that appears efficacious. If Consumer Reports were to repeat their experiment with the new formula, I predict that they would get similar results. Note, to tie in with the other thread about how science is done, if they repeated the experiment and it showed that SSS *was* effective, then I would change my view. But it is emphatically *not* science, for me to say "let’s settle the matter by going looking for things that show SSS is not effective." I think this clears a few things up, like the breakfast dishes and that strange rash on your hindquarters, and good luck to Avon for listening to what their customers asked for! [end quote] Jennifer

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We have a singular pest out here, a big fly/wasp that just likes to circle your head repeatedly while you try to outrun it. DEET or no DEET, it can drive you nuts just circling inches away from your nose and ears and making touch-and-go landings in your hair. It must be trying to tie your neck in knots so you’ll strangle yourself and then it can lay its eggs in what’s left of you on a hot afternoon. There seems to be some kind of air traffic control at work. As soon as you get rid of one, another one (but only one at a time) appears. I’m sure I’ll look funny waving that squash racket around my face next time out….

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It is a sticky patch you apply on the back of your hat/cap. The deer fly circles, finds a nice place to land, and… can’t get away. No more flying around your head. Phil, Maybe this will help or possibly make things worse.? Depending on the air traffic and holidays of course. Could be a busy landing pad. Let us know how it works. "Indyjogger" Laurie

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I tried deet with the deer flies on my trail and found it of very limited value. Maybe I sweat it off, but the flies kept landing on my head after repeated applications. Admittedly this is with the weaker stuff, not the melt-plastic-90% stuff, but I’m unwilling to use that. I have found that for the type of flies we have here that just having something on my head makes the experience bearable. As an aside, I sometimes wonder about myself- I have a paved bike path that is basically fly-free and then a state park trail which seems to be the New York City of deer flies and for some reason I’ve been loving the woodsy, prairie trail runs despite the flies. Please let us know if you come up with a good solution Terry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I must have very stubborn flies here in Virginia, because Skin-so-Soft is one of the aforementioned citronella products that had absolutely no effect on them. Does anyone know if you can still absorb DEET if you only spray in on clothing? That may be my only option. Katrina I do 90% of my running on a wooded trail. Carry a small plastic bottle of SSS with me. When the Deer Fly squadrons begin to rendezvous, I apply hastily and liberally! It has never failed me. Denny Anderson

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I travelled around Colorado’s backcountry with people who used this stuff and saw them driven out of their minds by the deer flies! If you try Skin So Soft take along some DEET as a reserve. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone make any recs for an insect repellant that really works on biting flies *and* doesn’t contain DEET? I have tried several citronella-based products but the flies don’t even hesitate. Try "skin-so-soft," an Avon product. I travelled in Sub-Saharan Africa and in the Far East with people who used this stuff and swore by it. — Charles "Stretch" Ledford STRETCH PHOTOGRAPHY "North America and the Entire World" http://www.GoStretch.com

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Well, I must have very stubborn flies here in Virginia, because Skin-so-Soft is one of the aforementioned citronella products that had absolutely no effect on them. Does anyone know if you can still absorb DEET if you only spray in on clothing? That may be my only option. Katrina

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I do 90% of my running on a wooded trail. Carry a small plastic bottle of SSS with me. When the Deer Fly squadrons begin to rendezvous, I apply hastily and liberally! It has never failed me. Denny Anderson

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Can anyone make any recs for an insect repellant that really works on biting flies *and* doesn’t contain DEET? I have tried several citronella-based products but the flies don’t even hesitate.

Try "skin-so-soft," an Avon product. I travelled in Sub-Saharan Africa and in the Far East with people who used this stuff and swore by it. — Charles "Stretch" Ledford STRETCH PHOTOGRAPHY "North America and the Entire World" http://www.GoStretch.com

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[as a fly repellant suggestion] Try "skin-so-soft," an Avon product. I travelled in Sub-Saharan Africa and in the Far East with people who used

this stuff and swore by it. This ’skin-so-soft’ was discredited in Consumer Report and Popular Science several years ago so take the African and Eastern swearing with grains of salt. Deet (in many brand forms) is effective against mosquitoes. Deer flies and Horse flies? I’ve never seen anything short of physical deterence (i.e. a loose fitting cotton shirt, cap, and a good swat). Jennifer

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Can anyone make any recs for an insect repellant that really works on biting flies *and* doesn’t contain DEET? I have tried several citronella-based products but the flies don’t even hesitate. Try "skin-so-soft," an Avon product. I travelled in Sub-Saharan Africa and in the Far East with people who used this stuff and swore by it.

I will second that. I do 90% of my running on a wooded trail. Carry a small plastic bottle of SSS with me. When the Deer Fly squadrons begin to rendezvous, I apply hastily and liberally! It has never failed me. Denny Anderson To ERR is human… to ZIN, divine! Kill the "fandel" to reply

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Accounting Talk » Accounting » Nikon mailing list?

Nikon mailing list?

Question:

There used to be a very good Nikon mailing list out of New Zealand. It is now gone. In the name of civility I will not discuss it’s replacement. I am looking for a new Nikon mailing list. Does anyone know of one? If one does not exist there is definitely a need for one. Anyone considering starting one? Art — N.A.N.P.A. 20 miles east of Nikon USA www.erols.com/art.searle http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=35571

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I am looking for a new Nikon mailing list. Does anyone know of one?

Check out http://www.nikonusers.org/ I think it’s only available in digest form.

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Check out http://www.nikonusers.org/ I think it’s only available in digest form.

IMO that is a list to be avoided. All you have to do is subscribe and I’m sure you will quickly come to the same conclusion. So I am hoping others will realize the need for a Nikon mailing list and start one. I’ve heard that there is a manual focus Nikon list but I don’t have any subscription info on it. Art — N.A.N.P.A. 20 miles east of Nikon USA www.erols.com/art.searle http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=35571

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There is nothing wrong with this list !

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Where is the rest of the Message? I am a Nikon User and would like to join this List? Thanks Dave

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The "big" list is a good deal better these days, but I know what you mean if you were a subscriber in the aftermath of the demise of the original 8-( Details of the Nikon MF list can be found at http://home1.gte.net/tpeach/Photography/ManualFocusNikon.htm. It’s available realtime or digest, and currently has a few hundred subscribers, I think. Though it’s low volume, I like it. — Regards John Bean

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You should go to http://www.nikonusers.org/ and go from there. I recommend you to follow the Digest for a while and see for yourself. What you think about that list may be much dependant on wether you follow some other NG or list for general photo discussions – the Nikon focus (pardon the pun) is pretty blurry at times. The list has a unusually active list administrator. Make sure you behave. Anders DaveinSJ skrev: Where is the rest of the Message? I am a Nikon User and would like to join this List? Thanks Dave

– Anders Svensson

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LOL I think the Nikon mailing List is a super community made up of wonderful people. The subjects are Nikon related, but not always technical oriented. Nikon creative issues are also discussed. The list administrator isnt only unusually active, he is hyperactive. He is managing both a live version of the list, a digest, a web based posting system, and a photo contest. – On his own private free time. The behavior on the list is as "loose", perhaps looser than other lists. Checking out the site and the FAQ, it would be easy to see this. -The Hyperactive List Administrator. (above email used to avoid spam) http://www.nikonusers.org Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I’ve been in the old Nikon digest and suscribe to the current version, the Nikon Mailing List. Not only it’s not bad: it’s great and it’s better than ever.
3000 people stayed on it, while maybe 50 didn’t like the new administrator and quit. Not that bad I think.
It’s still the most valuable resource of info on Nikon on the whole web.
Regards,
Patricio Murphy I think it’s only available in digest form.
IMO that is a list to be

avoided. All you have to do is subscribe and I’m
sure you will quickly come to the same conclusion. So I am hoping others
will realize the need for a Nikon mailing list and start one. I’ve heard
that there is a manual focus Nikon list but I don’t have any subscription
info on it.
Art

USA
N.A.N.P.A. 20 miles east of Nikon USA
www.erols.com/art.searle
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=35571

– Patricio Murphy Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Check out http://www.nikonusers.org/ I think it’s only available in digest form. IMO that is a list to be avoided. All you have to do is subscribe and I’m sure you will quickly come to the same conclusion. So I am hoping others will realize the need for a Nikon mailing list and start one. I’ve heard that there is a manual focus Nikon list but I don’t have any subscription info on it. Art

Hi Art – I run the Manual Focus Nikon mailing list. We have 335 subscribers. You can read about the list on its homepage here: http://home1.gte.net/tpeach/Photography/ManualFocusNikon.htm Or you can subscribe over the web by going here: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/NikonMF The "Big List" (as I call it) at www.nikonusers.org has had some teething pains, but for the most part it has calmed down. Drop by their site, select a "flavor" (java or html), hit the "auto subscribe" link (don’t worry, it won’t subscribe you yet), "request a file from archives", then click "nikon-digest mailing list". This will allow you to read the archives and decide for yourself. The last few weeks have been pretty on-topic. -Todd — Todd & Sharon Peach Seattle, Washington (zone 7) http://home1.gte.net/tpeach/NoPlaceLikeHome.htm

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< http://www.nikonusers.org/ I think it’s only available in digest form.

Digest or regular . . . <IMO that is a list to be avoided. All you have to do is subscribe and I’m sure you will quickly come to the same conclusion. I subscribed to the original and now subscribe to this one & disagree with your "conclusion" totally. (My opinion, not my employer’s). regards, Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video http://www.bhphotovideo.com

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As a public discussion, the relative merits of the Nikonusers mailing group can be discussed and debated ad infinitum. People who agree with the management of that group are certainly free to participate in it and those who disagree are certainly free to unsubscribe. The question for me was "Why should I participate in a forum where the membership feels pressured by the moderator ?" At the onset of the new management, it became apparent that the management was trying to overpower anyone who voiced disagreement with the management style. I supported then, and I support now, the free interchange of information. I do not, and have never, supported anyone’s "right" to bully anyone else, and that is EXACTLY what happened there. The manager has taken to intruding on other lists as well, under pseudonyms and aliases, and for the express purpose of inciting to riot. Call it what you want, but admit to the truth. Regards, Bill Briggs Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I belonged to the old Nikon list and now belong to the new one. Since my interests are photography and getting the most out of my gear, the list suits me fine. I think the new moderator is doing a fine job! After the initial "teething" period, the list seems to have returned to being 95% on topic. — Eric Edelman www.edelmans.org

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In response to my post (message #12 above), I received a private email from "Alexander" on June 9. It is not my practice to expose private mail, but since I don’t really know who this was, you can read it. Alexander "It is rather a shame that your anger and frustration, perhaps as a result of your own personal problems has resulted in such idiotic and irresponsible as well as false claims. What you claim above is an outright lie" I replied : "Whatever you say, "Alexander Alexander", "soulmates4ever" and "dejago". Did you think no one knew? Why not respond publicly?" Alexander replied : "Can you elaborate on the above? Dejago is my Id in deja news when I post to avoid spam. i recently made a post there and stated that this was from the list admin. Why are you quoting my name twice, and what are you refering to with I replied : "You have a short memory, those are pseudonyms and aliases you have used." Alexander replied : "I have used???? read this from my ISP: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 07-Jun-1999 13:18:31 Dear user mediadyne, A few moments ago, someone tried to login to our network, using your own Username and Password, while you were connected to it (online). You must know that your account to our network is strictly personal. If you think that someone knows your Password and is using your account then change your password immediately using the Password Change Web Page at https://status.hol.gr/passwd. On the other hand, if you gave your Password to a friend, be aware that his actions could cause you serious problems regarding your relations with the other netizens or with the law in other countries. Please change your Password as soon as possible. If you have any question please contact our Technical Support Thank you Hellas On Line Hellas On Line S.A. 151, Harilaou Trikoupi Street, 145 64 Nea Kifissia Tel: (+301) 62.96.300, Fax: (+301) 62.96.166 ——- Generated by the User Registration, Billing & Accounting System.

Since day 1 of my administration, I had to deal with hackers and forged emails. Some posts (actualy 1) even made it to the list and appeared to be my very own!!! I have since changed the passwords, and occasionaly, i sill get the double login attempts. I have forged emails from todd peach (he never sent them) as well as 1 by Andrew Donkin which was forged and a couple by Hnery Posner. Obciously whoever forged mine, did it to the other emails as well. So, before coming to your own conclucions, please consider other alternatives." Before I could reply, Alexander wrote : One more thing. there is apparently a program on the Internet called "Netbus" or something very similar. I dont know how secure your list is, or If you maintain the security. This program apparently allows people to enter your coomputer and see all your passwords as well as credit cards..etc… They can even post from any account you have and make it seem like it was from you. You can get an anti-virus program (although much more expensive for a server, i just bought one) and you wont have any problems. I sent the above to Mr. Peach also. i have had countless times in the past (even years) dealt with these kind of problems. If someone ones to get you on the Internet, unfortunately they can. i have even seen posts from me on the newsgroups that were never made by me. I hope all this "helps" you better understand the situation. i have sent you emails in the past when you were a subscriber, and you had seen my style of writing. Being in the "eye" of a few thousand subscribers, or even by a single person that doesnt like you cancause untold trouble on the internet. And Unfortunately,i have faced that many times." I replied : I see, so then it wasn’t really you who sent : "It is rather a shame that your anger and frustration, perhaps as a result of your own personal problems has resulted in such idiotic and irresponsible as well as false claims. What you claim above is an outright lie." Be advised that I have marked you as an unwanted poster – any further email from this address will go directly into the trashcan. And by the way, that threat was very thinly veiled." Alexander replied (using a different address that wasn’t blocked) : "Of course that was me. In response to a most irresponsible post. What’s the matter Bill, is the truth to hard to accept? That maybe I am innocent of all your allegations and that you spoke and concluded too fast? Goodbye, I will not bother you further, you certainly are not worth it." To which I replied : "Whoever you are, I’ve blocked this address also. By the way, you better hope Alexander doesn’t find out – he is easily upset." Draw your own conclusions, folks. You don’t know if it was the real Alexander, Alexander Alexander, dejago, or any other of a number of personalities. My personal apologies to all whose names appear in the text of "Alexander’s" messages. You may want to check out his statements. The message is BEWARE ! Regards, Bill Briggs Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Hi Bill, Very well said! You have expressed the reason I was calling for a new Nikon Digest. Art — N.A.N.P.A. 20 miles east of Nikon USA www.erols.com/art.searle http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=35571

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As a public discussion, the relative merits of the Nikonusers mailing group can be discussed and debated ad infinitum. People who agree with the management of that group are certainly free to participate in it and those who disagree are certainly free to unsubscribe. The question for me was "Why should I participate in a forum where the membership feels pressured by the moderator ?" At the onset of the new management, it became apparent that the management was trying to overpower anyone who voiced disagreement with the management style. I supported then, and I support now, the free interchange of information. I do not, and have never, supported anyone’s "right" to bully anyone else, and that is EXACTLY what happened there. The manager has taken to intruding on other lists as well, under pseudonyms and aliases, and for the express purpose of inciting to riot. Call it what you want, but admit to the truth. Regards, Bill Briggs Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Even if he was totally innocent of all previous claims, just the content of his responses to you reflects an attitude from a list administrator (or is that SysGod?) whose list I want nothing to do with. Art — N.A.N.P.A. 20 miles east of Nikon USA www.erols.com/art.searle http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=35571

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Accounting Talk » Business Accounting » SAGE demo disk ???

SAGE demo disk ???

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Charlie – If you are asking about the Business Works or MAS 90 products from SAGE you can go to their web site at www.sota.com to download information. DeeDee Heyne D.B.H. ENTERPRISES – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Where can I get the Sage demo on floppy disk ?

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Where can I get the Sage demo on floppy disk ?

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Where can I get the Sage demo on floppy disk ?

Charlie, If you go to http://www.sota.com You will find information on Business Works and MAS 90. If you are looking for a Peachtree Demo, then look up the Peachtree Website. Sage offers a number of accounting solutions all of which are very solid packages. You can request information or your request may be forwarded to a VAR nearest you for follow up. Regards, D. Spence

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writes Where can I get the Sage demo on floppy disk ?

As of November/December 1998 Sage advised me that Demo disks were no longer available ! Suggest you e-mail Sage directly – things may have changed — Mike Lillington (The Ordnance Survey Mapping Specialist) RALLYMAPS of WEST WELLOW, PO BOX 11, ROMSEY, HAMPSHIRE, SO51 8XX. U.K. Tel/FAX: 01794 515444 International +44 1794 515444 Website: http://www.rallymap.demon.co.uk/ An excellent site !

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Accounting Talk » Business Accounting » *** Screenwriter seeks accounting info ***

* Screenwriter seeks accounting info *

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I recall seeing a film from the U.K. called "The Accountant" on TV a few years back here in Canada. The accountant, if i remember correctly, was using publicly filed information and trying to find who committed a crime. It struck me odd at the time though as the corporations seemed to be privately owned. Do privately owned companies in the UK have to disclose certain financial information publicly?

Of course. Because they’re taking advantage of limited liability, they have to disclose their financial affairs. Remember that there are other users of accounts than just the shareholders. I’d say there’s an argument for subsidiary companies to be freed from producing accounts (currently they must produce full stats) but I’d certainly criticise heavily any moves to remove the obligation for ordinary private companies. Restrictions on public companies are more onerous. — "If you want to look at my feet, say so," said the young man. "But don’t be a God-damned sneak about it." (from "A Perfect Day for Bananafish")

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – |I am working on a feature film screenplay whose hero is an accountant (!) | |I am looking for anyone familiar with auditing and accounting in California |who can answer some questions for me about, for example, how money is |laundered through a business and what the audit trail would be – and at what |point the IRS would get interested. | |This is a genuine enquiry and I can provide bona fides if necessary. | |Anyone out there? You may want to contact FINCEN. They have a web site. They are a law enforcement information center run by the Treasury Department with an emphasis on money laundering. Their capabilities are amazing; you ought to touch bases with them; it might juice up your screenplay with realism. I’d have to look for the site but you can probably find a link at www.ustreas.gov J. Ime (Reverse domain *&* suffix letters to respond by e-mail)

If you want to launder money, the first thing you need is a business that deals in lots and lots of cash, the more the better. This is because the biggest challenge facing the money launderer is getting his money into the banking system. There have been numerous schemes over the years to get money into the banking system, and counter measures by the authorities – most notably the requirement of all US banks to report all cash deposits exceeding US$10,000 (note, "exceeding US$10,000" and not "US$10,000 or more"). A popular trick, known as "smurfing" is the deposit of large numbers of sub US$10K sums, but this requires lots of manpower to make lots of deposits ie lots of "little men" or smurfs! Another common trick is to give illegal money a veneer of respectability, eg buying casino chips for cash, playing the tables all night, and deliberately losing, say 20%, then cashing the chips and asking for a cheque (check – US!) to present to your bank. Another trick has been to arrange a loan from a compliant bank, so when asked where you got the money from you can say (and have the paper work to prove) that you borrowed it from the bank. Several months later you can settle the loan with a wire transfer from an overseas bank (probably a branch of the same bank) here it is easier to deposit the cash. If this is loan/ payback is all arranged as a whole package then it may be known as a "cash collateralised loan". It has also been popular to export cash from the US to a country where the controls over cash deposits are much less stringent -the rules are tighter now but various carribbean islands and Panama have been popular. US authorities have found dollars concealed in crates of car parts and the false bottoms of bottles of bull semen being exported from the USA. Anything more required?? – post your message. Doc

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I suggest you contact a Certified Fraud Examiner, those guys really get off on that kind of stuff–and in some cases, CFE’s were former IRS agents, so they could provide you with both sides of the equations. If you are interested, I could get the names and numbers of a couple of CFE’s that I know; however, they are located in Michigan. Sincerely, Joe Boswell, CPA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – |I am working on a feature film screenplay whose hero is an accountant (!) | |I am looking for anyone familiar with auditing and accounting in California |who can answer some questions for me about, for example, how money is |laundered through a business and what the audit trail would be – and at what |point the IRS would get interested. | |This is a genuine enquiry and I can provide bona fides if necessary. | |Anyone out there?

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I am working on a feature film screenplay whose hero is an accountant (!) I am looking for anyone familiar with auditing and accounting in California who can answer some questions for me about, for example, how money is laundered through a business and what the audit trail would be – and at what point the IRS would get interested. This is a genuine enquiry and I can provide bona fides if necessary. Anyone out there? — Johnny Deadman

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Wake me up when it gets on the "big screen!" ps: The only movie I can remember that featured a CPA was an old black and white movie probably from the 1950’s or 1960’s. The CPA was also a Notary Public and in doing that function, he came upon the bad guys, etc. Best regards, Al Gershen, Grants Pass, OR, USA Have a good day (or night) on the web. Also, WEBTV "really" works great!

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Actually KPMG is sponsoring a number of films which feature accountants (I seem to recall the number 100 mentioned!). The first and only one so far is Shooting Fish which gives KPMG a mention during the film – cute eh? Other notable accountants in celluloid can be found in… – The Untouchables – Exotica – Shallow Grave (nice scene inside an "old style" accountancy firm) – Amateur (accountant goes mad!) — "If you want to look at my feet, say so," said the young man. "But don’t be a God-damned sneak about it." (from "A Perfect Day for Bananafish")

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One film I remember from the 1950s was ‘Executive Suite’, which I decided to see it as part of my accounting studies. I think Fred Marsh played the part of a scheming accountant who was aiming for power in an industrial company. A few years later, ‘Accountancy’ reviewed a book called the ‘Speaking Eye’, which was about an accountant playing the part of a detective. I read it to add interest to my life when I was too involved in humdrum work. Since then, I’ve discovered that truth can be more fascinating than fiction. I suppose that when I write my memoirs, the film rights will be in demand. Roger Standing FCA

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Don’t forget ‘Weekend at Bernie’s’ which featured a couple of company accountants uncoering their boss’s fraud! Any other movies with accountants out there? Jonathon Power

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Wake me up when it gets on the "big screen!" ps: The only movie I can remember that featured a CPA was an old black and white movie probably from the 1950’s or 1960’s.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wake me up when it gets on the "big screen!" ps: The only movie I can remember that featured a CPA was an old black and white movie probably from the 1950’s or 1960’s. The CPA was also a Notary Public and in doing that function, he came upon the bad guys, etc. Actually KPMG is sponsoring a number of films which feature accountants (I seem to recall the number 100 mentioned!). The first and only one so far is Shooting Fish which gives KPMG a mention during the film – cute eh? Other notable accountants in celluloid can be found in… – The Untouchables – Exotica – Shallow Grave (nice scene inside an "old style" accountancy firm) – Amateur (accountant goes mad!) — "If you want to look at my feet, say so," said the young man. "But don’t be a God-damned sneak about it." (from "A Perfect Day for Bananafish")

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Accounting Talk » Accounting Firms » How can I earn a living while traveling?

How can I earn a living while traveling?

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with 13 quintillion Indian people looking for work…. why would anyone in Inda hire an American to pick crops?

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If you’ve got *good* English qualifications try the big banks, legal and accounting firms who often have English speakers on staff to vet their outgoing mail for obvious bloopers

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Joseph: The time-honored feed-your-face thing to do in Asia is teaching English — a real calling which can make a big difference in people’s lives, make you feel good and immerse you right in the culture since you have to to be a good teacher. You’ll be teaching conversation — and making plenty yourself! Since it’s quite a field over there, teaching EFL in the Far East is the subject of several books, some on Japan, some on the region more generally and one allegedly coming out in June dealing with SE Asia specifically. Beyond this there’s a website: www.eslcafe.com, which spreads the latest gosip all around. You should sign on right away. You’ll need training if you haven’t ever studied linguistics or a foreign language, and for that there are a number of (fairly expensive) four week courses in the UK, the US and elsewhere. Beyond that you could easily do a Masters degree in TESOL or applied ling. There are a lot of options. You should know, though, that it’s no cakewalk. Rather than get into it here, I’ll simply send you toward that website: www.eslcafe.com so you can see for yourself. That site even has some of my opinions on it; I’m the same "Ben Bangs" whose first initial stands for William. Good luck! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey. I will be doing some living and traveling in India and southeast Asia in a couple of months. I will be overseas for a long time, perhaps even a couple of years, and I would like to find means to support myself while there. Can anyone offer me suggestions on how to make a living as an American in India and southeast Asia? I’ve heard ambiguous mention of crop-picking jobs, but I’d like as much info as I can get about all potential occupations…all help is appreciated. Thanks! —

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Teach English. Its fun and you meet lots of young people. Ther are several books on the subject. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey. I will be doing some living and traveling in India and southeast Asia in a couple of months. I will be overseas for a long time, perhaps even a couple of years, and I would like to find means to support myself while there. Can anyone offer me suggestions on how to make a living as an American in India and southeast Asia? I’ve heard ambiguous mention of crop-picking jobs, but I’d like as much info as I can get about all potential occupations…all help is appreciated. Thanks! —

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I agree about teaching. I spent a year in SE Asia – teaching English in Bangkok to earn money for short trips to the surrounding area, this also gave me the opportunity to live in Bangkok and experience it as a resident rather than just passing through. You can earn a lot of money in Japan and Korea- but personally, Bangkok is much more appealing as a city. There are also opportunities to work in the media – Bangkok has more English language dailies than any other city in the world – and one of the smallest ex-pat communities – new magazines are springing up all the time – you could start up re-writing and move on to writing articles – opportunities also in TV and radio…..DJ-ing etc

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Hey. I will be doing some living and traveling in India and southeast Asia in a couple of months. I will be overseas for a long time, perhaps even a couple of years, and I would like to find means to support myself while there. Can anyone offer me suggestions on how to make a living as an American in India and southeast Asia? I’ve heard ambiguous mention of crop-picking jobs, but I’d like as much info as I can get about all potential occupations…all help is appreciated. Thanks! —

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[soc.culture.indian removed from newsgroup line] I have heard that in Asia there is a large demand for English teachers. If you have experience in teaching, or a certificate from an ESL program, it’s easy; in some places, though, all you need is a college degree (in any field). Another thing you might consider, if you are at all talented as a writer or photographer, is to try selling articles to US-based magazines.

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* Screenwriter seeks accounting info *