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Thanx For the reply Stephen,     I do appreciate your advise and look forward to learning from your posts. — Nate Lockwood N.Y.   Hi Nate,   I am a CPA with 16 years of public accounting experience, much of it doing not-for-profit entities.  Churches and church related organizations do not have to file tax or information returns unless they have unrelated business taxable income (UBTI).  Most fundraising activities would probably be exempt but you should consult with a CPA if the entity is involved in activities that for profit businesses provide.   There is not much of a market for a not-for-profit taxation consultant since the organization’s CPA firm will usually provide that service.  It is also a complex area that honestly requires someone with years of experience with many different types of nonprofit organizations to be able to properly consult on it.  You would probably do well to learn more about accounting before you try to become a tax expert for nonprofits.   Stephen Lewis, CPA

    Hi people, my name is Nate. I am currently taking online courses at the University of Phoenix in hopes of getting a bachelors in science of accounting. My end goal is to become a Not for profit bookkeeping taxation consultant, if there is such a thing. My question, is this goal realistic?         I am the bookkeeper for my church and academy. I set out 2 years ago at the task of automating the books into Quick Books. I recently upgraded to Non profit addition this summer and discovered many more general journal accounts than I had ever before seen. The more that I learn, the more I find that I do not know. I am certainly getting overwhelmed with the whole thing this year, mainly because I do believe that some of the fund raisers do not meet the exemptions for a non profit. On top of that the 501c-3 has never filed an 990 information return. I should probably find an accountant huh?     —     Nate Lockwood     N.Y.

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Mark,         I guess my biggest trouble is trying to do everything from payroll to balancing the checkbooks. I am trying to train others to do data entry, but it is a long difficult process mainly because not everyone has a business sense, and can’t even comprehend A/R.     The fundraisers where the items sold do not originate from within the organization scare me. — Nate Lockwood N.Y.

  Hi people, my name is Nate. I am currently taking online courses at the   University of Phoenix in hopes of getting a bachelors in science of   accounting. My end goal is to become a Not for profit bookkeeping   taxation consultant, if there is such a thing. My question, is this goal   realistic?       I am the bookkeeper for my church and academy. I set out 2 years ago   at the task of automating the books into Quick Books. I recently   upgraded to Non profit addition this summer and discovered many more   general journal accounts than I had ever before seen. The more that I   learn, the more I find that I do not know. I am certainly getting   overwhelmed with the whole thing this year, mainly because I do believe   that some of the fund raisers do not meet the exemptions for a non   profit. On top of that the 501c-3 has never filed an 990 information   return. I should probably find an accountant huh?   Nate, I have created 2 501 (c)(3) non-profit corps and been involved   in Church accounting.  Currently I am Treasurer for a Religious   school.  It is not really that difficult over-all, but my organization   did not get the non-profit Quickbooks.  I use the Class separation to   make my funds (Restricted, Temp Restricted, and Operational, and sub   classes from there).  I then dump the reports to Excel to clean them   up (havn’t figured out how to make cash report on Statement of   Financial Position.)      As far as the 990, it is probably more common that a church   organization would not have filed a 990.  Only if the take in   fundraisers is healthy does it really become necessary.  I had to put   some guidelines on our fundraisers because there was a lot of self   enrichment going on (i.e. people receiving their proceeds in   scholarships or field-trip discounts.)  Only if a fundraiser uses most   of the assets or continues indefinately with a designated location   does it really start to raise the eyebrows for Taxable treatment as   far as I have seen. A good discussion if we get a CPA to chime in.

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Hi people, my name is Nate. I am currently taking online courses at the University of Phoenix in hopes of getting a bachelors in science of accounting. My end goal is to become a Not for profit bookkeeping taxation consultant, if there is such a thing. My question, is this goal realistic?     I am the bookkeeper for my church and academy. I set out 2 years ago at the task of automating the books into Quick Books. I recently upgraded to Non profit addition this summer and discovered many more general journal accounts than I had ever before seen. The more that I learn, the more I find that I do not know. I am certainly getting overwhelmed with the whole thing this year, mainly because I do believe that some of the fund raisers do not meet the exemptions for a non profit. On top of that the 501c-3 has never filed an 990 information return. I should probably find an accountant huh?

Nate, I have created 2 501 (c)(3) non-profit corps and been involved in Church accounting.  Currently I am Treasurer for a Religious school.  It is not really that difficult over-all, but my organization did not get the non-profit Quickbooks.  I use the Class separation to make my funds (Restricted, Temp Restricted, and Operational, and sub classes from there).  I then dump the reports to Excel to clean them up (havn’t figured out how to make cash report on Statement of Financial Position.)    As far as the 990, it is probably more common that a church organization would not have filed a 990.  Only if the take in fundraisers is healthy does it really become necessary.  I had to put some guidelines on our fundraisers because there was a lot of self enrichment going on (i.e. people receiving their proceeds in scholarships or field-trip discounts.)  Only if a fundraiser uses most of the assets or continues indefinately with a designated location does it really start to raise the eyebrows for Taxable treatment as far as I have seen. A good discussion if we get a CPA to chime in.

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Hi Nate, I am a CPA with 16 years of public accounting experience, much of it doing not-for-profit entities.  Churches and church related organizations do not have to file tax or information returns unless they have unrelated business taxable income (UBTI).  Most fundraising activities would probably be exempt but you should consult with a CPA if the entity is involved in activities that for profit businesses provide. There is not much of a market for a not-for-profit taxation consultant since the organization’s CPA firm will usually provide that service.  It is also a complex area that honestly requires someone with years of experience with many different types of nonprofit organizations to be able to properly consult on it.  You would probably do well to learn more about accounting before you try to become a tax expert for nonprofits. Stephen Lewis, CPA

  Hi people, my name is Nate. I am currently taking online courses at the University of Phoenix in hopes of getting a bachelors in science of accounting. My end goal is to become a Not for profit bookkeeping taxation consultant, if there is such a thing. My question, is this goal realistic?       I am the bookkeeper for my church and academy. I set out 2 years ago at the task of automating the books into Quick Books. I recently upgraded to Non profit addition this summer and discovered many more general journal accounts than I had ever before seen. The more that I learn, the more I find that I do not know. I am certainly getting overwhelmed with the whole thing this year, mainly because I do believe that some of the fund raisers do not meet the exemptions for a non profit. On top of that the 501c-3 has never filed an 990 information return. I should probably find an accountant huh?   —   Nate Lockwood   N.Y.

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Sounds like a good plan!

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Tippy,     What is OMB?     I am attending University Of Phoenix headed for a bachelors of Science in business- accounting. Will this cover such things as budget grants circular? Are they just Govt. grants? — NateL

  Hi people, my name is Nate. I am currently taking online courses at the University of Phoenix in hopes of getting a bachelors in science of accounting. My end goal is to become a Not for profit bookkeeping taxation consultant, if there is such a thing. My question, is this goal realistic?      I am the bookkeeper for my church and academy. I set out 2 years ago at the task of automating the books into Quick Books. I recently upgraded to Non profit addition this summer and discovered many more general journal accounts than I had ever before seen. The more that I learn, the more I find that I do not know. I am certainly getting overwhelmed with the whole thing this year, mainly because I do believe that some of the fund raisers do not meet the exemptions for a non profit. On top of that the 501c-3 has never filed an 990 information return. I should probably find an accountant huh?   I suspect so.  Regarding your career plans– I suggest you become   familiar with Office of Management and Budgets grant circular because   many grants or sub grants go to non profits.  Doing those audits as a   CPA could be a good source of funds for you.  OMB Circular A-133 is   available at OMB’s web site via the whitehouse site.     Tippy

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Yep. Because you still need to study more. Your goal is realistic. I am King of a Monarchy in ethiopia and I own One non-profit (local government) corporation. I also work with several other non-profits. I joined the newsgroup to give sound advice, as I am qualified. My current accountant does non-profit bookkeeping and auditing and she’s licensed, the whole sha-bang. I know for a fact you’ll be able to be a certified public accountant for non-profits because they are for public benefit. Best regards, HMKMJF ### – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi people, my name is Nate. I am currently taking online courses at the University of Phoenix in hopes of getting a bachelors in science of accounting. My end goal is to become a Not for profit bookkeeping taxation consultant, if there is such a thing. My question, is this goal realistic?     I am the bookkeeper for my church and academy. I set out 2 years ago at the task of automating the books into Quick Books. I recently upgraded to Non profit addition this summer and discovered many more general journal accounts than I had ever before seen. The more that I learn, the more I find that I do not know. I am certainly getting overwhelmed with the whole thing this year, mainly because I do believe that some of the fund raisers do not meet the exemptions for a non profit. On top of that the 501c-3 has never filed an 990 information return. I should probably find an accountant huh? — Nate Lockwood N.Y.

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  Hi people, my name is Nate. I am currently taking online courses at the University of Phoenix in hopes of getting a bachelors in science of accounting. My end goal is to become a Not for profit bookkeeping taxation consultant, if there is such a thing. My question, is this goal realistic?       I am the bookkeeper for my church and academy. I set out 2 years ago at the task of automating the books into Quick Books. I recently upgraded to Non profit addition this summer and discovered many more general journal accounts than I had ever before seen. The more that I learn, the more I find that I do not know. I am certainly getting overwhelmed with the whole thing this year, mainly because I do believe that some of the fund raisers do not meet the exemptions for a non profit. On top of that the 501c-3 has never filed an 990 information return. I should probably find an accountant huh?   —   Nate Lockwood   N.Y.   YES !

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Hi people, my name is Nate. I am currently taking online courses at the University of Phoenix in hopes of getting a bachelors in science of accounting. My end goal is to become a Not for profit bookkeeping taxation consultant, if there is such a thing. My question, is this goal realistic?     I am the bookkeeper for my church and academy. I set out 2 years ago at the task of automating the books into Quick Books. I recently upgraded to Non profit addition this summer and discovered many more general journal accounts than I had ever before seen. The more that I learn, the more I find that I do not know. I am certainly getting overwhelmed with the whole thing this year, mainly because I do believe that some of the fund raisers do not meet the exemptions for a non profit. On top of that the 501c-3 has never filed an 990 information return. I should probably find an accountant huh? — Nate Lockwood N.Y.

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Eliza:  Don’t reply to my message.  Start your own thread and you’ll get much better responses.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear all, My friend had done the operation to remove part of his colon as the doctor found a tumor inside (T3N0). Pet scan show no cancerous, but his Oncologist suggested him to do the chemo by 5FU for 1 year in order to prevent for recurrence as he’s still young (50). Does Xeloda can use as the preventive method for his situation?  Because my friend does not want to do the IV injection. Thank you. Eliza

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear all, My friend had done the operation to remove part of his colon as the doctor found a tumor inside (T3N0). Pet scan show no cancerous, but his Oncologist suggested him to do the chemo by 5FU for 1 year in order to prevent for recurrence as he’s still young (50). Does Xeloda can use as the preventive method for his situation?  Because my friend does not want to do the IV injection.

I’m not a doctor, but I have rectal cancer. Although I can’t say for sure, I think that 5FU is more effective than Xeloda, otherwise Xeloda would be first line treatment for colorectal cancer. If your friend has anxiety about IV’s, there’s lots of things that can be done to deal with it- I’d suggest getting a porta-cath. It’s easier both psychologically and physically than getting frequent needle sticks for IV’s. your friend might also ask his doctor about having either Oxaliplatin or Camptosar along with the 5FU. and he should also talk to his doctor about Xeloda as an option. Michele

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear all, My friend had done the operation to remove part of his colon as the doctor found a tumor inside (T3N0). Pet scan show no cancerous, but his Oncologist suggested him to do the chemo by 5FU for 1 year in order to prevent for recurrence as he’s still young (50). Does Xeloda can use as the preventive method for his situation?  Because my friend does not want to do the IV injection.

I found this on another NG. It may help your friend: Trial Shows Pill is as Effective as Standard Chemotherapy for Advanced Colorectal Cancer M. D. Anderson News Release 04/12/01 A study led by The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center shows that a small pink tablet may offer a less toxic, more convenient option in the treatment of advanced colorectal cancer. In the study, researchers found that oral capecitabine, also known by its trade name of Xeloda, is an acceptable option to the intravenous chemotherapy regimen of fluorouracil plus leucovorin (5FU/LV), a standard treatment for metastatic colon cancer. Investigators suggest that while it has been proven effective, the oral drug is most appropriate for patients who are highly motivated and able to take the pill twice a day as directed. Results of the Phase III trial, conducted at M. D. Anderson and sites throughout Canada and the United States, are published in the April 15 issue of the Journal of Clinical Oncology. More than 600 patients were enrolled on the trial, all with colon cancer that had spread to other organs. The oral drug, which produced a significantly higher tumor response than the intravenous chemotherapy, offers patients a much less toxic, convenient and home-based therapy. According to the study, patients experienced a significantly lower incidence of nausea, hair loss and fever, symptoms commonly associated with intravenous chemotherapy.  Fewer patients taking the capecitabine required hospitalization for adverse reactions than those patients taking the 5FU plus leucovorin. But researchers say the trade-off for convenience is that patients must take responsibility for taking the pills as directed and communicating regularly with their health care team. For that reason, the pill remains an option, rather than a new standard treatment, for patients with metastatic colorectal cancer. "The encouraging results of this trial give physicians additional latitude in recommending to each patient the optimal course of treatment.  It is especially important to remember that this oral drug was found to be equal to, not superior to, the intravenous chemotherapy regimen of F-5U plus leucovorin, " said Dr. Robert Wolff, assistant professor of gastrointestinal oncology at M. D. Anderson and a colon cancer specialist who enrolled many patients on the trial. "While the oral drug is much more convenient for patients and produces fewer side effects, this treatment depends on the patient’s willingness and ability to take the pills as prescribed." In the study, patients took oral capecitabine twice daily for two weeks.  The patients then took one week off from treatment.  The pills were taken approximately 12 hours apart, with water, within 30 minutes of breakfast and dinner. "This treatment is definitely more convenient and less toxic than the intravenous chemotherapy," said Dr. Wolff.  "But it literally puts the treatment in the hands of the patient.  It is a consideration that physicians must acknowledge when devising a treatment plan." According to the comparative study, tumors in approximately 25 percent of patients who took the oral capecitabine responded, compared to 15.5 percent of patients receiving intravenous chemotherapy.  Median survival was 12.5 months for the oral drug and 13.3 months for the intravenous therapy, and median times to disease progression were 4.3 months for the pill and 4.7 months for intravenous chemotherapy. According to the National Cancer Institute, colorectal cancer is the third most commonly diagnosed malignancy, accounting for 10 to 15 percent of newly diagnosed cancer cases in the United States and Europe. An estimated 783,000 new cases are diagnosed annually worldwide. Up to 30 percent of patients are diagnosed with metastatic disease while 50 to 60 percent eventually develop metastatic or advanced disease.  The five-year survival rate for advanced colon cancer is five percent or less.  Xeloda is manufactured by Hoffmann-La Roche. 4/12/01

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Thanks Steph.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I had a colonoscopy this week and the polyp they removed turns out to be cancerous.  This polyp was first detected via a sigmoidoscopy, so I am assuming it is not too far up the colon.  I’ll have a consultation with the surgeon next week.  I am looking for some intelligent questions to ask him (aside from, "can I see your medical license?)  -:)) I suppose he wouldn’t know how far, or if the cancer has spread, until he has a look at the colon and biopsy of the lymph nodes.  Can he tell just from the biopsy of the polyp or from the pictures they took during the colonoscopy? What other tests or procedures can he use to detect how advance the cancer is?  If the cancer had not spread to the lymph nodes, what’s the prognosis? Any other questions I should be asking? TIA. 1) How far from the anus is it? If it’s mor ethan 8cm, you probably will get away with an anterior resection. Lower than that may need a permenant colostomy 2) A CT scan will likely be done. It can’t accurately stage the priimary, but would probably show liver metastases if they are present. 3) The mainstay of treatment for trectosigmoid cancer is surgery, but a short course of reoperative radiotherapy certainly reduces the risks of recurrence, and probably eliminates the need for post-op adjuvant chemo.

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Dear all, My friend had done the operation to remove part of his colon as the doctor found a tumor inside (T3N0). Pet scan show no cancerous, but his Oncologist suggested him to do the chemo by 5FU for 1 year in order to prevent for recurrence as he’s still young (50). Does Xeloda can use as the preventive method for his situation?  Because my friend does not want to do the IV injection. Thank you. Eliza

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Print out the question to ask your doctor at http://www.colorectal-cancer.net/faq.htm — Steve Gossman Survivor webmaster Colorectal Cancer Network http://www.colorectal-cancer.net http://www.colon-cancer.net

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I had a colonoscopy this week and the polyp they removed turns out to be cancerous.  This polyp was first detected via a sigmoidoscopy, so I am assuming it is not too far up the colon.  I’ll have a consultation with the surgeon next week.  I am looking for some intelligent questions to ask him (aside from, "can I see your medical license?)  -:)) I suppose he wouldn’t know how far, or if the cancer has spread, until he has a look at the colon and biopsy of the lymph nodes.  Can he tell just from the biopsy of the polyp or from the pictures they took during the colonoscopy? What other tests or procedures can he use to detect how advance the cancer is?  If the cancer had not spread to the lymph nodes, what’s the prognosis? Any other questions I should be asking? TIA. — (I delete every e-mail sent to my address, without reading.)

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Thanks.  Great resources.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Print out the question to ask your doctor at http://www.colorectal-cancer.net/faq.htm — Steve Gossman Survivor webmaster Colorectal Cancer Network http://www.colorectal-cancer.net http://www.colon-cancer.net I had a colonoscopy this week and the polyp they removed turns out to be cancerous.  This polyp was first detected via a sigmoidoscopy, so I am assuming it is not too far up the colon.  I’ll have a consultation with the surgeon next week.  I am looking for some intelligent questions to ask him (aside from, "can I see your medical license?)  -:)) I suppose he wouldn’t know how far, or if the cancer has spread, until he has a look at the colon and biopsy of the lymph nodes.  Can he tell just from the biopsy of the polyp or from the pictures they took during the colonoscopy? What other tests or procedures can he use to detect how advance the cancer is?  If the cancer had not spread to the lymph nodes, what’s the prognosis? Any other questions I should be asking? TIA. — (I delete every e-mail sent to my address, without reading.)

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I had a colonoscopy this week and the polyp they removed turns out to be cancerous.  This polyp was first detected via a sigmoidoscopy, so I am assuming it is not too far up the colon.  I’ll have a consultation with the surgeon next week.  I am looking for some intelligent questions to ask him (aside from, "can I see your medical license?)  -:)) I suppose he wouldn’t know how far, or if the cancer has spread, until he has a look at the colon and biopsy of the lymph nodes.  Can he tell just from the biopsy of the polyp or from the pictures they took during the colonoscopy? What other tests or procedures can he use to detect how advance the cancer is?  If the cancer had not spread to the lymph nodes, what’s the prognosis? Any other questions I should be asking? TIA. — (I delete every e-mail sent to my address, without reading.)

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Hi Peter, Some of the questions you could ask may not be as appropriate for the surgeon as they are for your oncologist. What type of cancer is it? Are they anticipating doing chemo and radiation before or after surgery or both?  What will the surgery entail? Are they thinking any type of ostomy? There are several types of chemo administration regimen (e.g., some days on, some days off, continuous infusion through a pump, etc)…what type are they considering? And prognosis if cancer has not spread to the lymph nodes is pretty good! Another test that is sometimes used is the PET scan. It’s expensive and sometimes, however, the insurance companies don’t want to pay for it. These are just laymen questions. Any doctors on board could offer more professional information. Hang in there, Peter. Gather as much information as you can from reputable sites and sources. Write down any questions you think of for your doctor (we often forget the question we want to ask the doctor if we don’t write them down). Stay positive. Bye for now, Deborah – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I had a colonoscopy this week and the polyp they removed turns out to be cancerous.  This polyp was first detected via a sigmoidoscopy, so I am assuming it is not too far up the colon.  I’ll have a consultation with the surgeon next week.  I am looking for some intelligent questions to ask him (aside from, "can I see your medical license?)  -:)) I suppose he wouldn’t know how far, or if the cancer has spread, until he has a look at the colon and biopsy of the lymph nodes.  Can he tell just from the biopsy of the polyp or from the pictures they took during the colonoscopy? What other tests or procedures can he use to detect how advance the cancer is?  If the cancer had not spread to the lymph nodes, what’s the prognosis? Any other questions I should be asking? TIA. — (I delete every e-mail sent to my address, without reading.)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Peter, Some of the questions you could ask may not be as appropriate for the surgeon as they are for your oncologist. What type of cancer is it? Are they anticipating doing chemo and radiation before or after surgery or both? What will the surgery entail? Are they thinking any type of ostomy? There are several types of chemo administration regimen (e.g., some days on, some days off, continuous infusion through a pump, etc)…what type are they considering? And prognosis if cancer has not spread to the lymph nodes is pretty good! Another test that is sometimes used is the PET scan. It’s expensive and sometimes, however, the insurance companies don’t want to pay for it. These are just laymen questions. Any doctors on board could offer more professional information. Hang in there, Peter. Gather as much information as you can from reputable sites and sources. Write down any questions you think of for your doctor (we often forget the question we want to ask the doctor if we don’t write them down). Stay positive. Bye for now, Deborah

Thanks for the quick reply.  I don’t have an appointment with an oncologist. I think surgery is the option they are using.  I am checking WebMD.  Good information there. Problem is not knowing.  I want to know everything now, not next week.  I wish I could be in surgery this afternoon. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I had a colonoscopy this week and the polyp they removed turns out to be cancerous.  This polyp was first detected via a sigmoidoscopy, so I am assuming it is not too far up the colon.  I’ll have a consultation with the surgeon next week.  I am looking for some intelligent questions to ask him (aside from, "can I see your medical license?)  -:)) I suppose he wouldn’t know how far, or if the cancer has spread, until he has a look at the colon and biopsy of the lymph nodes.  Can he tell just from the biopsy of the polyp or from the pictures they took during the colonoscopy? What other tests or procedures can he use to detect how advance the cancer is?  If the cancer had not spread to the lymph nodes, what’s the prognosis? Any other questions I should be asking? TIA. — (I delete every e-mail sent to my address, without reading.)

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Something else I’d ask is what type of pain control will they do for you, post surgery? For example, will you be on a PCA (patient controlled analgesia) or will they give you an epidural? Do you have a choice? How long will you be in the hospital? What’s the expected recovery time? I’d also make sure someone talks to you about breathing exercises and how to move in the first days following surgery. This will probably be covered in a pre-surgical visit to the hospital (rather than by the surgeon himself), and it’s good to know about it before the surgery, so you can be prepared. (bring a nice, hard pillow to hold against your belly for when you have to cough- the hospital pillows are too flimsy, imo <g). Michele, after two abdominal surgeries

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Ok thanks again.  More questions after I meet with the surgeon next tuesday.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Something else I’d ask is what type of pain control will they do for you, post surgery? For example, will you be on a PCA (patient controlled analgesia) or will they give you an epidural? Do you have a choice? How long will you be in the hospital? What’s the expected recovery time? I’d also make sure someone talks to you about breathing exercises and how to move in the first days following surgery. This will probably be covered in a pre-surgical visit to the hospital (rather than by the surgeon himself), and it’s good to know about it before the surgery, so you can be prepared. (bring a nice, hard pillow to hold against your belly for when you have to cough- the hospital pillows are too flimsy, imo <g). Michele, after two abdominal surgeries

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I had a colonoscopy this week and the polyp they removed turns out to be cancerous.  This polyp was first detected via a sigmoidoscopy, so I am assuming it is not too far up the colon.  I’ll have a consultation with the surgeon next week.  I am looking for some intelligent questions to ask him (aside from, "can I see your medical license?)  -:)) I suppose he wouldn’t know how far, or if the cancer has spread, until he has a look at the colon and biopsy of the lymph nodes.  Can he tell just from the biopsy of the polyp or from the pictures they took during the colonoscopy? What other tests or procedures can he use to detect how advance the cancer is?  If the cancer had not spread to the lymph nodes, what’s the prognosis? Any other questions I should be asking? TIA.

1) How far from the anus is it? If it’s mor ethan 8cm, you probably will get away with an anterior resection. Lower than that may need a permenant colostomy 2) A CT scan will likely be done. It can’t accurately stage the priimary, but would probably show liver metastases if they are present. 3) The mainstay of treatment for trectosigmoid cancer is surgery, but a short course of reoperative radiotherapy certainly reduces the risks of recurrence, and probably eliminates the need for post-op adjuvant chemo.

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I had a colonoscopy this week and the polyp they removed turns out to be cancerous.  This polyp was first detected via a sigmoidoscopy, so I am assuming it is not too far up the colon.  I’ll have a consultation with the surgeon next week.  I am looking for some intelligent questions to ask him (aside from, "can I see your medical license?)  -:))

I’d ask him if he’s done a lot of these surgeries in the past. How much of your colon and/or rectum will he be removing? Will you need a colostomy? Often bowel surgery causes changes in bowel function. I would ask him if he anticipates you experiencing those changes. Once surgery and possible adjunct treatment are finished, what type of follow up does your surgeon plan? (ie, frequency of colonoscopies) I suppose he wouldn’t know how far, or if the cancer has spread, until he has a look at the colon and biopsy of the lymph nodes.  Can he tell just from the biopsy of the polyp or from the pictures they took during the colonoscopy?

I don’t think so. However, a CT scan of the abdomen is pretty common for folks who have colorectal cancer. I would ask your surgeon for one. He will also examine your liver and other organs during the surgery, looking for metastasis. At some point they’ll probably do a CEA test on your blood- CEA can =sometimes= be an effective tumour marker for CR cancer. Probably they will compare your CEA level before and after surgery, and then periodically check it afterwards. Sometimes a rising CEA is a sign that the cancer has returned (though sometimes cancer returns and CEA remains low). What other tests or procedures can he use to detect how advance the cancer is?  If the cancer had not spread to the lymph nodes, what’s the prognosis?

IIRC, if the cancer has not spread to other organs or lymph nodes, cure rate is something like 80%. Any other questions I should be asking?

When will you be seeing an oncologist? A good place for information is the colorectal mailing list at: http://www.acor.org Michele, diagnosed two years ago today with rectal cancer

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Thanks Michele.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I had a colonoscopy this week and the polyp they removed turns out to be cancerous.  This polyp was first detected via a sigmoidoscopy, so I am assuming it is not too far up the colon.  I’ll have a consultation with the surgeon next week.  I am looking for some intelligent questions to ask him (aside from, "can I see your medical license?)  -:)) I’d ask him if he’s done a lot of these surgeries in the past. How much of your colon and/or rectum will he be removing? Will you need a colostomy? Often bowel surgery causes changes in bowel function. I would ask him if he anticipates you experiencing those changes. Once surgery and possible adjunct treatment are finished, what type of follow up does your surgeon plan? (ie, frequency of colonoscopies) I suppose he wouldn’t know how far, or if the cancer has spread, until he has a look at the colon and biopsy of the lymph nodes.  Can he tell just from the biopsy of the polyp or from the pictures they took during the colonoscopy? I don’t think so. However, a CT scan of the abdomen is pretty common for folks who have colorectal cancer. I would ask your surgeon for one. He will also examine your liver and other organs during the surgery, looking for metastasis. At some point they’ll probably do a CEA test on your blood- CEA can =sometimes= be an effective tumour marker for CR cancer. Probably they will compare your CEA level before and after surgery, and then periodically check it afterwards. Sometimes a rising CEA is a sign that the cancer has returned (though sometimes cancer returns and CEA remains low). What other tests or procedures can he use to detect how advance the cancer is?  If the cancer had not spread to the lymph nodes, what’s the prognosis? IIRC, if the cancer has not spread to other organs or lymph nodes, cure rate is something like 80%. Any other questions I should be asking? When will you be seeing an oncologist? A good place for information is the colorectal mailing list at: http://www.acor.org Michele, diagnosed two years ago today with rectal cancer

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You might also ask for a chest x-ray. CR cancer sometimes spreads to the lungs. (I had both the chest x-ray, and a CT scan before surgery) Michele

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Accounting Talk » Accounting Cost » Convertible preferred stock problem.

Convertible preferred stock problem.

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If a company owns a truck, it is an asset.  If a company issues preferred stock, the preferred stock is not an asset of the company (someone else owns it). Preferred or common stock are similar to debt for a company, in that they represent a claim on the assets of the company.  Like liability accounts, ledger accounts for stock issued are increased with a credit and decreased with a debit.

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Remember the proper balance of your equity accounts is CREDIT (equity is really a liability account: payable to the owners/shareholders).  You DEBIT preferred stocks to DECREASE the cost of shares and CREDIT common stocks to INCREASE the cost of shares. Keith Wong, MBA

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Hi. I am in a second accounting course. I am not sure about the journal entry to record converting preferred stock into common stock. I understand that if you have 1000 shares of preferred convertible stock that cost $100 each, and you can convert them to 10,000 shares of common stock worth $10 each at the time of the original purchase, so if the price of the common stock goes up more than the price of the preferred, it might be profitable to convert. et’s say the preferred stock goes up to $101 and the common stock goes up to $12. But I don’t understand the journal entry in my book;            Preferred Stock            $100,000                     Common Stock                       $100,000 OK you use the book value of the stock to convert. But why is the Preferred stock debited? If the guy is getting rid of the preferred stock- trading it for common stock- shouldn’t the  preferred stock be a credit? Like if he was selling a truck for $1000, the truck would be $1000 credit and the cash would be $1000 debit. Thanks. gary.

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Accounting Talk » Accounting » Simple audio question

Simple audio question

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Does anyone have a suggestion for a brand of aftermarket in-dash CD players that matches well with the red instrument panel on my 97 A6? Thanks.

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Does anyone have a suggestion for a brand of aftermarket in-dash CD players that matches well with the red instrument panel on my 97 A6? Thanks.

Not sure f this is any help, but.. I’ve got a Kenwood in my current car (BMW) that can be switched between amber and green illumination. Amber matches the BM – is the Audi "true" red? — Hairy One Kenobi Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion in the first place. So there!

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Does anyone have a suggestion for a brand of aftermarket in-dash CD players that matches well with the red instrument panel on my 97 A6? Thanks. Not sure f this is any help, but.. I’ve got a Kenwood in my current car (BMW) that can be switched between amber and green illumination. Amber matches the BM – is the Audi "true" red?

Yup, as red as they get. Stuff a green radio face in the middle of all those red indicators and it’ll look like a christmas tree… ‘Course, after seeing what someone did to a perfectly lovely TT, there might just be someone out there who’d love a red & green console ;^) /daytripper (no accounting for taste) ‘00 S4

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Have a look at http://www.beckermexico.com In my opinion the red lcd panel matches the Audi instruments.

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Accounting Talk » Accounting Company » QuickBooks CRISIS OVER !

QuickBooks CRISIS OVER !

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Mike: I think QuickBooks users need to be aware under the revised approach (where only one tax service subscription is required for each copy of QB 2000 that you own, rather than per EIN that you process) QB users will 1. Have to provide Intuit with the EIN for all companies that they process payrolls for. 2. Have to enter a unique payroll service key in each company that they process payroll for. 2. Have to log on to the internet and update the tax table at least every 45 days. I am bothered by having to provide my clients EIN’s to anyone. Also it appears you have to contact Intuit every time you get a new QB payroll client and provide Intuit with their EIN so they can give you the payroll service key for that company. I think Intuit took a step in the right direction, they just didn’t walk far enough. <mike block reply: I certainly agree. This will cost us and Intuit lots of money, but it was probably the best they could do quickly. If it is needed for long we will get our guns out again. mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I am really HAPPY to commend biz.comp.accounting users. We were primarily responsible for getting Intuit to drop plans to charge for QuickBooks payroll tax tables based on federal employer identification number. Rich Walker, head of the QuickBooks Professional Advisor program told me today they will only charge $6/month for each copy of QB. They will not charge for each company that processes payroll with one copy of QB, even if it is a five user copy. Therefore, those with more than one person doing payroll probably should buy a 5 user QB, not 2 or more single copies. If you already got several licenses you can get refunds. The timing of the announcement may relate to February 15, which is the date when QB6 and 99 tables expire. It also may relate to a message sent today to one Intuit friend. It said: I do not think anyone there realizes how close Intuit is to class action suits, organized calls for FTC and Justice Department intervention, organized boycotts, major magazine articles, action by CPA organizations, state constitutional amendment petitions and other legislative action. All this will hurt me as much as it does anyone. I had promised the class action suit tomorrow, with treble and punitive anti-monopoly damages. We also called for a QB2000 boycott today on our active QB website: http://www.blocktax.com/ By th way, we now have a big set of QB error codes there. The timing of the announcement probably was most likely related to a major news story, about the tax controversy and our newsgroup, by Accounting Today. I spent lots of time talking to reporter David Scho. I sure hope I got his name right, because he now has a positive story and I want my name and the biz.comp.accounting name right. After all, we have the most active public QB newsgroup. Rich said Dave and I were the first non-Intuit people to learn about the change. He also actually said he wanted to personally thank us for making his job more important to Intuit. As a result of our uproar, Rich now has many more Intuit people check with him on their plans. This is as it should be. Intuit can certainly make lots more money if Professional Advisors enthusiastically support it than it can if we boycott. Intuit also would do better if it used video technology to extend Alpha (pre-beta, pre-release) tests of QB beyond their local area. They certainly would do far better if an active Professional Advisor’s advisory board was more involved in their plans. Such boards can quickly turn the QB Accountant’s Review Copy into something really important to us and our clients. Here is a quick guess at the revenue involved in recent changes. 20,000+ QB Professional Advisors eventually switch to QB2000 or later releases. One CPA said he did payroll for 500 companies, but let us assume Advisors only average 20 companies for payroll. The change means we buy one table, not 19. A 19 table saving, times 20,000 Advisors and $72 a year is: $27,360,000 a year. I was the first one, and possibly the only one, to tell Rich about a second QB Certified Pro Advisor problem. I also promised to sue over it, if necessary. Certified agreements promise us copies of the current 5 user QB version and a year of updates. The Certified program began about December 7, 1999, when we qualified. The current version was QB99 until December 31. However, as I predicted, Certified acknowledgements were delayed & we only got QB2000. When Rich confirmed this he got about 1,000 copies of QB99 sent out. At $450+ this was: $450,000 Now how about sending me my 10% cut on your share? Seriously, we owe Rich and the other members of the QB Payroll Task Force a great deal. However, I predict all this will be as good for Intuit as the new and Classic Coke were for Coca Cola. Of course, I am very happy about all this. However, I will call Rich back in a few days. That is because our Certified agreements also promised us a year of table updates. For those of us were Certified Advisors before QB2000 there was only one tax table. I may be wrong, but I believe we could use one table update in QB6 & 99. When 2000 arrived Intuit split the table. They were entitled to do that. However, I do not think they were entitled to make us pay more for tables for which we had already paid. Those of us who were Certified before QB2000 are now entitled to QB6, 99 and 2000 tables, with no more payment. Sorry, but I cannot help with this if you were Certified after QB2000 arrived. For anything else, please post biz. On the other hand, all this means I may finally have to charge for answers by email or phone.  Mike Block, Tax Fighting C.P.A. World’s #1 QuickBooks Top Tester 700+ page QB book/free updates $10 QB add-ons http://www.blocktax.com/   Ft Lauderdale FL 954-566-7540

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But aren’t they still requiring you to give them all the EIN’s? moderator reply: Yes, but only because of program code that cannot be easily changed. You should be able to change to a dummy EINs before you update and then change back to the real one after. I will verify this very soon. I am really HAPPY to commend biz.comp.accounting users. We were primarily responsible for getting Intuit to drop plans to charge for QuickBooks payroll tax tables based on federal employer identification number. Rich Walker, head of the QuickBooks Professional Advisor program told me today they will only charge $6/month for each copy of QB. They will not charge for each company that processes payroll with one copy of QB, even if it is a five user copy. Therefore, those with more than one person doing payroll probably should buy a 5 user QB, not 2 or more single copies.

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I am really HAPPY to commend biz.comp.accounting users. We were primarily responsible for getting Intuit to drop plans to charge for QuickBooks payroll tax tables based on federal employer identification number. Rich Walker, head of the QuickBooks Professional Advisor program told me today they will only charge $6/month for each copy of QB. They will not charge for each company that processes payroll with one copy of QB, even if it is a five user copy. Therefore, those with more than one person doing payroll probably should buy a 5 user QB, not 2 or more single copies. If you already got several licenses you can get refunds. The timing of the announcement may relate to February 15, which is the date when QB6 and 99 tables expire. It also may relate to a message sent today to one Intuit friend. It said:         I do not think anyone there realizes how close Intuit         is to class action suits, organized calls for FTC and         Justice Department intervention, organized boycotts,         major magazine articles, action by CPA organizations,         state constitutional amendment petitions and other         legislative action. All this will hurt me as much as         it does anyone. I had promised the class action suit tomorrow, with treble and punitive anti-monopoly damages. We also called for a QB2000 boycott today on our active QB website:         http://www.blocktax.com/ By th way, we now have a big set of QB error codes there. The timing of the announcement probably was most likely related to a major news story, about the tax controversy and our newsgroup, by Accounting Today. I spent lots of time talking to reporter David Scho. I sure hope I got his name right, because he now has a positive story and I want my name and the biz.comp.accounting name right. After all, we have the most active public QB newsgroup. Rich said Dave and I were the first non-Intuit people to learn about the change. He also actually said he wanted to personally thank us for making his job more important to Intuit. As a result of our uproar, Rich now has many more Intuit people check with him on their plans. This is as it should be. Intuit can certainly make lots more money if Professional Advisors enthusiastically support it than it can if we boycott. Intuit also would do better if it used video technology to extend Alpha (pre-beta, pre-release) tests of QB beyond their local area. They certainly would do far better if an active Professional Advisor’s advisory board was more involved in their plans. Such boards can quickly turn the QB Accountant’s Review Copy into something really   important to us and our clients. Here is a quick guess at the revenue involved in recent changes.         20,000+ QB Professional Advisors eventually switch to         QB2000 or later releases. One CPA said he did payroll         for 500 companies, but let us assume Advisors only         average 20 companies for payroll. The change means         we buy one table, not 19. A 19 table saving, times         20,000 Advisors and $72 a year is:                                                 $27,360,000 a year. I was the first one, and possibly the only one, to tell Rich about a second QB Certified Pro Advisor problem. I also promised to sue over it, if necessary. Certified agreements promise us copies of the current 5 user QB version and a year of updates. The Certified program began about December 7, 1999, when we qualified. The current version was QB99 until December 31. However, as I predicted, Certified acknowledgements were delayed & we only got QB2000. When Rich confirmed this he got about 1,000 copies of QB99 sent out. At $450+ this was:                                                         $450,000 Now how about sending me my 10% cut on your share? Seriously, we owe Rich and the other members of the QB Payroll Task Force a great deal. However, I predict all this will be as good for Intuit as the new and Classic Coke were for Coca Cola. Of course, I am very happy about all this. However, I will call Rich back in a few days. That is because our Certified agreements also promised us a year of table updates. For those of us were Certified Advisors before QB2000 there was only one tax table. I may be wrong, but I believe we could use one table update in QB6 & 99. When 2000 arrived Intuit split the table. They were entitled to do that. However, I do not think they were entitled to make us pay more for tables for which we had already paid. Those of us who were Certified before QB2000 are now entitled to QB6, 99 and 2000 tables, with no more payment. Sorry, but I cannot help with this if you were Certified after QB2000 arrived. For anything else, please post biz. On the other hand, all this means I may finally have to charge for answers by email or phone.   Mike Block, Tax Fighting C.P.A.              World’s #1 QuickBooks Top Tester 700+ page QB book/free updates $10 QB add-ons http://www.blocktax.com/    Ft Lauderdale FL 954-566-7540

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Accounting Talk » Office Accounting » FIFTY WAYS TO BEAT RANDI

FIFTY WAYS TO BEAT RANDI

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I was just thinking that a big shovel would be in order – with this much s___, there has GOT to be a pony here somewhere! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey! Someone get a bigger net! For someone with $5.5 million, you would think they could learn to spellcheck a document before calling others an idiot. BTW …. WHAT THE  #$%**#  ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! Curley your such a numbskull …… whoop …..whoop …. whoop! Since we are talking money can I have $2 million to open a magic restaurant?? I hope you get a real good secretary to check your document before you send them out. I am glad the fourth grade was so good to you. — Mark Byrne http://markballoonguy.home.mindspring.com            "Bad to the Balloon" Well, let’s bring you little fools up to date. I just arranged for an influx of $3 million in venture capital for Webdesign.Ca Inc. for [exspansion] of [your[MINE?] e-commerce division and with my recent [aqusition] of a PC Computing [Consutation] [Firm[s] in Europe and Japan for another $2.5 million, I am [affreaid] you won’t get rid of me any time soon.  [Phoney] stories of death and [acustaions] about my [occomidations] and the [assult] on the [reputaion] of the owner of the AES won’t do it kiddies. As the President and C.E.O. of Webdesign.Ca I’m afraid I don’t have too much time to play with you little children, but I promise when I take some time off I’ll catch up and slap you [bozzos] around as usual. Enjoy. Earl Curley http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/ See my 1999 predictions online at http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/iris.html **** I  PREDICT YOU WON’T WIN A SPELLING BEE. SORRY I SENT THIS ONCE WITH THE MISTAKES HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, BUT IT WAS KICKED BACK. "Excuse me child, but I’m afraid they haven’t been teaching you grade four kids much in school, have they?  What a stupid child." Earl Curley — Matt Kriebel      *             The Hessian Page        See this .sig! Loathe this .sig! Hate this .sig!

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I see we are reduced to metaphors. Those can’t do, teach. Those who can’t teach, Sell. It sounds like Curley is buying his own crap. The net reference was meant for the insane rambling, not fishing!!! Matt, please correct me if I’m wrong. Matt it isn’t good form to post in-between messages it looks like the first person said it. For the record I didn’t say get a bigger net. Even though I though it was funny. The inserts I made were to highlight the absurdity of Curley’s post. I hope I made that clear by bracing the misspelled words and all caps on comments. My original post had color highlights, but it didn’t down load the  newsgroup. How come Benito and William page can send photos and can’t post in color???? Any way, I am not the one bragging about my $ 5.5 million dollar empire, just pointing out the irony. If I had that kind of money I highly doubt I would bother with trivial dribble and bravado. I would also hope my education would be better. Even Bill Gates, who is a bad speller, uses spell check. — Mark Byrne http://markballoonguy.home.mindspring.com            "Bad to the Balloon"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There are fish and there are fishermen.  Fishing is not his forte. Enjoy Earl Curley http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/ See my 1999 predictions online at http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/iris.html The International Remote Intelligence Scanning Chronicles Hey! Someone get a bigger net! For someone with $5.5 million, you would think they could learn to spellcheck a document before calling others an idiot. BTW …. WHAT THE  #$%**#  ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! Curley your such a numbskull …… whoop …..whoop …. whoop! Since we are talking money can I have $2 million to open a magic restaurant?? I hope you get a real good secretary to check your document before you send them out. I am glad the fourth grade was so good to you. — Mark Byrne http://markballoonguy.home.mindspring.com            "Bad to the Balloon" Well, let’s bring you little fools up to date. I just arranged for an influx of $3 million in venture capital for Webdesign.Ca Inc. for [exspansion] of [your[MINE?] e-commerce division and with my recent [aqusition] of a PC Computing [Consutation] [Firm[s] in Europe and Japan for another $2.5 million, I am [affreaid] you won’t get rid of me any time soon.  [Phoney] stories of death and [acustaions] about my [occomidations] and the [assult] on the [reputaion] of the owner of the AES won’t do it kiddies. As the President and C.E.O. of Webdesign.Ca I’m afraid I don’t have too much time to play with you little children, but I promise when I take some time off I’ll catch up and slap you [bozzos] around as usual. Enjoy. Earl Curley http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/ See my 1999 predictions online at http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/iris.html **** I  PREDICT YOU WON’T WIN A SPELLING BEE. SORRY I SENT THIS ONCE WITH THE MISTAKES HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, BUT IT WAS KICKED BACK. "Excuse me child, but I’m afraid they haven’t been teaching you grade four kids much in school, have they?  What a stupid child." Earl Curley — Matt Kriebel      *             The Hessian Page         See this .sig! Loathe this .sig! Hate this .sig! "Excuse me child, but I’m afraid they haven’t been teaching you grade four kids much in school, have they?  What a stupid child." Earl Curley

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There are fish and there are fishermen.  Fishing is not his forte. Enjoy Earl Curley http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/ See my 1999 predictions online at http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/iris.html The International Remote Intelligence Scanning Chronicles – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey! Someone get a bigger net! For someone with $5.5 million, you would think they could learn to spellcheck a document before calling others an idiot. BTW …. WHAT THE  #$%**#  ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! Curley your such a numbskull …… whoop …..whoop …. whoop! Since we are talking money can I have $2 million to open a magic restaurant?? I hope you get a real good secretary to check your document before you send them out. I am glad the fourth grade was so good to you. — Mark Byrne http://markballoonguy.home.mindspring.com            "Bad to the Balloon" Well, let’s bring you little fools up to date. I just arranged for an influx of $3 million in venture capital for Webdesign.Ca Inc. for [exspansion] of [your[MINE?] e-commerce division and with my recent [aqusition] of a PC Computing [Consutation] [Firm[s] in Europe and Japan for another $2.5 million, I am [affreaid] you won’t get rid of me any time soon.  [Phoney] stories of death and [acustaions] about my [occomidations] and the [assult] on the [reputaion] of the owner of the AES won’t do it kiddies. As the President and C.E.O. of Webdesign.Ca I’m afraid I don’t have too much time to play with you little children, but I promise when I take some time off I’ll catch up and slap you [bozzos] around as usual. Enjoy. Earl Curley http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/ See my 1999 predictions online at http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/iris.html **** I  PREDICT YOU WON’T WIN A SPELLING BEE. SORRY I SENT THIS ONCE WITH THE MISTAKES HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, BUT IT WAS KICKED BACK. "Excuse me child, but I’m afraid they haven’t been teaching you grade four kids much in school, have they?  What a stupid child." Earl Curley — Matt Kriebel      *             The Hessian Page         See this .sig! Loathe this .sig! Hate this .sig!

"Excuse me child, but I’m afraid they haven’t been teaching you grade four kids much in school, have they?  What a stupid child." Earl Curley

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Hey! Someone get a bigger net! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For someone with $5.5 million, you would think they could learn to spellcheck a document before calling others an idiot. BTW …. WHAT THE  #$%**#  ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! Curley your such a numbskull …… whoop …..whoop …. whoop! Since we are talking money can I have $2 million to open a magic restaurant?? I hope you get a real good secretary to check your document before you send them out. I am glad the fourth grade was so good to you. — Mark Byrne http://markballoonguy.home.mindspring.com            "Bad to the Balloon" Well, let’s bring you little fools up to date. I just arranged for an influx of $3 million in venture capital for Webdesign.Ca Inc. for [exspansion] of [your[MINE?] e-commerce division and with my recent [aqusition] of a PC Computing [Consutation] [Firm[s] in Europe and Japan for another $2.5 million, I am [affreaid] you won’t get rid of me any time soon.  [Phoney] stories of death and [acustaions] about my [occomidations] and the [assult] on the [reputaion] of the owner of the AES won’t do it kiddies. As the President and C.E.O. of Webdesign.Ca I’m afraid I don’t have too much time to play with you little children, but I promise when I take some time off I’ll catch up and slap you [bozzos] around as usual. Enjoy. Earl Curley http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/ See my 1999 predictions online at http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/iris.html **** I  PREDICT YOU WON’T WIN A SPELLING BEE. SORRY I SENT THIS ONCE WITH THE MISTAKES HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, BUT IT WAS KICKED BACK. "Excuse me child, but I’m afraid they haven’t been teaching you grade four kids much in school, have they?  What a stupid child." Earl Curley

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alt.magic deleted by popular request. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      So I need your help to maintain this fight. Give me a call. If you’re interested in joining with me in this battle, I’d like to talk This is a battle we’re going to win, but only if I get your help to do it. So please contact me today, and offer me what material or spiritual support you can afford. John Benneth 503 661 4842 And if you raised enough money to hire a major accounting firm to hold the double-blind code for a preliminary trial demonstration of your yeast-, pH-, or other test, would you do the test for the JREF, as your formerly close associate, the homeopath Alain Jean-Mairet, Randi, and I (who you have so often publicly described as fair and impartial) painstakingly negotiated for you last August (complete with the promise of a signed in advance – by Randi – copy of your application form)?  Or are there other reasons why you feel such a test still wouldn’t be fair? (Please specify.) Don’t you think it’s a little odd that the only way the only known applicant to the Challenge can get a fair trial of it is to hire a public accounting firm to act as arbitrators? Reportedly Randi has always acted as his own

I agree it’s problematic, unless the applicant can come up with a third party to hold the double-blind code who is trusted both by the applicant and Randi – and works cheap or free. But if I was certain of my ability to win the challenge – which you yourself report is now worth over $2 million (with the Chinese illusionist’s added value contribution) – I wouldn’t let the cost of hiring a major accounting firm stop me. If I didn’t have the money, I’d borrow it or perhaps sell shares in the booty (for winning the prize or suing Randi for breach of contract) to other people in return for a much smaller investment in the expenses of taking the challenge. judge, jury and executioner to all these mysterious previous trials. And

Pretend you really are the first claimant.  What counts *now* are the publicly posted and legally binding (especially once Randi signs, as he promised he would) rules of the challenge and Randi’s stated and/or demonstrated willingness to allow it and the negotiation process to be publicly witnessed.  If he fails to live up to those rules, he’s liable to legitimate public ridicule and litigation. this is only after Mike Epstein . . . the NIST sicentist . .  at Mt. St. Mary’s College in Emmitsburg doesn’t simply dismiss it in a secret "preliminary" trial.    The Challenge is a widely known public offer. To

Randi offered – at your insistent request – to allow you simply to demonstrate the yeast test, double-blind, before or with a scientifically qualified third party as a sufficient preliminary trial.  What has Mike Epstein done to demonstrate that he wouldn’t give you a fair opportunity to do this? Are you concerned that he will use sleight of hand on you or some other trickery? have credibility it needs public arbitration. But what are we arguing over?

Supervision by a third party with no actual or perceived bias against people bearing paranormal claims would be highly desirable.  But the challenge, as is, is set up in such a way that someone with a genuine "paranormal" (by Randi’s definition) ability should either be able to win or to expose the challenge as a sham – if he plays his cards right, as we have been trying to do in your case. Randi’s not going to stqge a test. Just like Art Bell told me on the phone and will tell anyone else who asks him, Randi will always argue over the conditions of this test until the applicant gives up. And then just like

Randi and your trusted negotiator Alain were in accord about how the preliminary should be done when YOU went AWOL last August. Bell said, that’s exactly what he’s done. Now if he’s interested in the science, if Randi wants the truth he’ll siimply investigate the same things I did.

Randi is entitled to his beliefs, disbeliefs, prejudices – call them what you will.  It’s enough that, through the JREF, he’s willing to put over $1 million on the line for people like you to prove him wrong.  If you want him to "investigate," he may wind up winning the prize himself!  You should be glad he considers homeopathy paranormal.  His entrenched position is your golden opportunity.      Seriously, Syd, after all the acrimony over this thing, having read      Randi’s implied and explict threats, after reading his statement about always having an out, http://www.psicounsel.com/starbaby.html do you really think he’s ever going to risk the kernal of his apostasy on a fair test?

Why don’t you call his bluff, if that’s what you think it is?  You have witnesses. Remember, you can satisfy Randi’s claimed fear of legal liability should you go postal or something by having Gary Schwartz testify in writing to your mental stability (if that’s his judgement, as you’ve implied) When we first began corresponding, I had the impression that as the editor of the Winnipeg Aquarian, you were a journalist, and that as an editor, you would have some pretty tough standards for the truth. What has ever stopped you or anyone else from simply picking up the phone and doing a little investigating for yourself? Why not call Gary at the Human Energy Systems Lab yourself and ask him yourself?

I don’t butt into people’s lives unless I have good reason to.  Were Dr. Schwartz to tell me he considers you mentally competent, it would make no difference to Randi.  He would require a formal communication to that effect from Schwartz himself, or simply a notarized waiver from you. or simply by signing a notarized waiver yourself, as offered by Randi a few months ago. You know as well as I do that making a condition like that months after making his original offer is absurd. If I’m as mentally ill as he would

So humour him.  Call his bluff.  Then do the preliminary.  It’s a small price to pay for fame, fortune, and vindication. l;ike everyone to believe, then why has he sent me dozens of emails? Here we have a famous magician who now spends his sunset years lecturing at colleges and receiving large speaking fees, taunting and threatening somebody who he claims is insane, and then after months of this, he asks the man to sign a form releasing him from liability in case the supposed wretch goes insane and "does" something.     That’s like saying that after I spend months taunting you, calling you     names and acting disingenuously and even threatening you, that I won’t fulfill my promise to you for having delivered that which I asked UNLESS I absolve you of all liability for aggravating a condition that it might be said I imposed on you.

Again, who gives a shit?  Let him be wiley, disingenuous, abusive – whatever. It’s so easy to call his bluff, if that’s what it is.  If he then produces another "out," you have witnesses.  But so far, the most significant out I’ve seen has been your lack of response to the opportunity to do the preliminary he gave you in August. Right now, Randi has much more credibility for me than you; and if I had to do my honest journalist bit on the story so far, that’s what I would have to document.     Secondly, and I got to say that this thing just keeps getting dumber,     how is it that you guys think a crazy man can offer you anything of substance or even legally contract with you?  So if what he says is true, any type of document

I’m not one of "those guys."  I haven’t accused you of being insane and I’m not about to get contractually involved with you. of the type you say it is he’s offering is null and void. SO why do you keep

Well then that would mean that he’s not protected.  His loss, not yours. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – pestering the madman? Shouldn’t you and Randi and others be concerned for a liability you’re incurring in this? If I am really insane, and I go out do something, mightn’t the survivors come back and say, hey, look, these three guys, Randi, Baumel and Jean-Mairet (sounds too French) actively CONSPIRED to drive this man insane. And here’s the entire written record, even repeated statements from the magician, INSISTING that this man Benneth is crazy. Certainly he has a lot to lose if the applicant wins, so mightn’t a very strong motive eneter into the picutre for making the statement falsely, and then by repeated taunts and smears and little threats, actually begin to impose the condition? I mean, is this what you do for kicks? Go down to the local asylum and drag your tin cup across the bars and laugh at the inamates? Maybe you like to torment people who are on the edge. I see that you are the author of several books on depression. Apparently a man’s mental state is a subject of special interest to you. So here you are, a noted author on the subject of mental illness, who appears to be now presenting the argument of a magician claiming that a relatively unknown man is insane, asking him why it is he won’t provide authentication of his sanity? In fact, I believe I’ve read you to imply that you agree with Randi, is that not so?

There’s nothing in the voluminous record of our public and private email to suggest that I’ve been trying to drive you insane or sadistically use you as some kind of subject for study.  That never was my intention, and it’s tempting to say that only someone paranoid would entertain such an idea.  Up until your departure from the bargaining table last August I *was* trying to facilitate a fair trial of your claim – period.  Since then, I’ve mostly been involved as an occasional commentator to set the record straight and/or to challenge you to live up to your rhetoric and speak truthfully.  I’m not afraid of being sued, because I’ve done nothing wrong – and the record clearly shows that.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      It’s been suggested by Louis "Bowels" Minatti in the above newsgroups that I hate Randi. Lou, Lou, this is nonsense! I am compelled to state that nothing could be further from the truth! Why, I love the dear little elf! Sounds like you have a Randi fetish.         Don’t you mean ‘fettish’?         – TR         – welcoming the new Earl Gordon Curley. Hey Johnny: got any predictions for 2000? <guffaw

Doesn’t this sound like the boys associated with the JREF? Like I said once a cult groupie always a cult groupie and the poster above simply provides substantial proof to that fact. It is like the blind leading the blind. One idiot claims victory and all his little cult followers abide to his every wishes. Well, let’s bring you little fools up to date. I just arranged for an influx of $3 million in venture capital for Webdesign.Ca Inc. for exspansion of your e- commerce division and with my recent aqusition of a PC Computing Consutation Firm in Europe and Japan for another $2.5 million, I am affreaid you won’t get rid of me any time soon.  Phoney stories of death and acustaions about my occomidations and the assult on the reputaion of the owner of the AES won’t do it kiddies. As the President and C.E.O. of Webdesign.Ca I’m afraid I don’t have too much time to play with you little children, but I promise when I take some time off I’ll catch up and slap you bozzos around as usual. Enjoy. Earl Curley http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/ See my 1999 predictions online at http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/iris.html "Excuse me child, but I’m afraid they haven’t been teaching you grade four kids much in school, have they?  What a stupid child." Earl Curley

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For someone with $5.5 million, you would think they could learn to spellcheck a document before calling others an idiot. BTW …. WHAT THE  #$%**#  ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! Curley your such a numbskull …… whoop …..whoop …. whoop! Since we are talking money can I have $2 million to open a magic restaurant?? I hope you get a real good secretary to check your document before you send them out. I am glad the fourth grade was so good to you. — Mark Byrne http://markballoonguy.home.mindspring.com            "Bad to the Balloon" Well, let’s bring you little fools up to date. I just arranged for an influx of $3 million in venture capital for Webdesign.Ca Inc. for [exspansion] of

[your[MINE?] e-commerce division and with my recent [aqusition] of a PC Computing [Consutation] [Firm[s] in Europe and Japan for another $2.5 million, I am [affreaid] you

won’t get rid of me any time soon.  [Phoney] stories of death and [acustaions] about my [occomidations] and the [assult] on the [reputaion] of the owner of the AES won’t do it kiddies. As the President and C.E.O. of Webdesign.Ca I’m afraid I don’t have too much time to play with you little children, but I promise when I take some time off I’ll catch up and slap you [bozzos] around as usual. Enjoy. Earl Curley http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/ See my 1999 predictions online at http://www.room101rat.com/webdesignca/iris.html

**** I  PREDICT YOU WON’T WIN A SPELLING BEE. SORRY I SENT THIS ONCE WITH THE MISTAKES HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, BUT IT WAS KICKED BACK. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Excuse me child, but I’m afraid they haven’t been teaching you grade four kids much in school, have they?  What a stupid child." Earl Curley

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after all the acrimony over this thing, having read Randi’s implied and explict threats, after reading his statement about always having an out, http://www.psicounsel.com/starbaby.html

Not this old bullshit again! "Sure, I beleive that a bitter, rejected and out-of-control guy can be trusted to fairly represent out-of-context quotes of his opponents." Damn, what is it about Kooks and sTARBABY? THe quote was by Randi about his stage-act and not the challenge. Dennis Rawlins was a bitter and angry man who was a favorite target for woo-woo’s due to his over-the-top tactics against astrologers and the like. Then *bam* he gets rejected from CSICOP due to those same tactics and all of a sudden he’s the woo-woo’s best friend who could never, ever lie. Didja ever read sTARBABY? Ever notice that when he’s talking about someone else he give quotes to make them look as bad as possible, but when discussing what he said around said quotes he keeps details about his commentary to a minimum? CRYBABY is more like it. No surprise that Benneth sucked down this kook-bait. — Matt Kriebel      *             The Hessian Page         See this .sig! Loathe this .sig! Hate this .sig!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      So I need your help to maintain this fight. Give me a call. If you’re interested in joining with me in this battle, I’d like to talk This is a battle we’re going to win, but only if I get your help to do it. So please contact me today, and offer me what material or spiritual support you can afford. John Benneth 503 661 4842 And if you raised enough money to hire a major accounting firm to hold the double-blind code for a preliminary trial demonstration of your yeast-, pH-, or other test, would you do the test for the JREF, as your formerly close associate, the homeopath Alain Jean-Mairet, Randi, and I (who you have so often publicly described as fair and impartial) painstakingly negotiated for you last August (complete with the promise of a signed in advance – by Randi – copy of your application form)?  Or are there other reasons why you feel such a test still wouldn’t be fair? (Please specify.)

Don’t you think it’s a little odd that the only way the only known applicant to the Challenge can get a fair trial of it is to hire a public accounting firm to act as arbitrators? Reportedly Randi has always acted as his own judge, jury and executioner to all these mysterious previous trials. And this is only after Mike Epstein . . . the NIST sicentist . .  at Mt. St. Mary’s College in Emmitsburg doesn’t simply dismiss it in a secret "preliminary" trial.    The Challenge is a widely known public offer. To have credibility it needs public arbitration. But what are we arguing over? Randi’s not going to stqge a test. Just like Art Bell told me on the phone and will tell anyone else who asks him, Randi will always argue over the conditions of this test until the applicant gives up. And then just like Bell said, that’s exactly what he’s done. Now if he’s interested in the science, if Randi wants the truth he’ll siimply investigate the same things I did.       Seriously, Syd, after all the acrimony over this thing, having read Randi’s implied and explict threats, after reading his statement about always having an out, http://www.psicounsel.com/starbaby.html do you really think he’s ever going to risk the kernal of his apostasy on a fair test? Remember, you can satisfy Randi’s claimed fear of legal liability should you go postal or something by having Gary Schwartz testify in writing to your mental stability (if that’s his judgement, as you’ve implied)

When we first began corresponding, I had the impression that as the editor of the Winnipeg Aquarian, you were a journalist, and that as an editor, you would have some pretty tough standards for the truth. What has ever stopped you or anyone else from simply picking up the phone and doing a little investigating for yourself? Why not call Gary at the Human Energy Systems Lab yourself and ask him yourself? or simply by signing a notarized waiver yourself, as offered by Randi a few months ago.

You know as well as I do that making a condition like that months after making his original offer is absurd. If I’m as mentally ill as he would l;ike everyone to believe, then why has he sent me dozens of emails?     Here we have a famous magician who now spends his sunset years lecturing at colleges and receiving large speaking fees, taunting and threatening somebody who he claims is insane, and then after months of this, he asks the man to sign a form releasing him from liability in case the supposed wretch goes insane and "does" something.      That’s like saying that after I spend months taunting you, calling you names and acting disingenuously and even threatening you, that I won’t fulfill my promise to you for having delivered that which I asked UNLESS I absolve you of all liability for aggravating a condition that it might be said I imposed on you.      Secondly, and I got to say that this thing just keeps getting dumber, how is it that you guys think a crazy man can offer you anything of substance or even legally contract with you?  So if what he says is true, any type of document of the type you say it is he’s offering is null and void. SO why do you keep pestering the madman? Shouldn’t you and Randi and others be concerned for a liability you’re incurring in this? If I am really insane, and I go out do something, mightn’t the survivors come back and say, hey, look, these three guys, Randi, Baumel and Jean-Mairet (sounds too French) actively CONSPIRED to drive this man insane. And here’s the entire written record, even repeated statements from the magician, INSISTING that this man Benneth is crazy. Certainly he has a lot to lose if the applicant wins, so mightn’t a very strong motive eneter into the picutre for making the statement falsely, and then by repeated taunts and smears and little threats, actually begin to impose the condition? I mean, is this what you do for kicks? Go down to the local asylum and drag your tin cup across the bars and laugh at the inamates? Maybe you like to torment people who are on the edge. I see that you are the author of several books on depression. Apparently a man’s mental state is a subject of special interest to you. So here you are, a noted author on the subject of mental illness, who appears to be now presenting the argument of a magician claiming that a relatively unknown man is insane, asking him why it is he won’t provide authentication of his sanity? In fact, I believe I’ve read you to imply that you agree with Randi, is that not so?      And the original offer called for a method to win the award, not any particular man to win it. http://marius.netfirms.com/      The method has been provided, in fact many of them have been provided, suitable for accomplishing the called for task htttp://marius.netfirms.com/research.html       In fact, I even found and I submit here again its abstract for your review, a published report of a public demonstation by (another) two Frenchmen who accomplished the very thing called for, selecting the correct flask out of six 100 times out of 100 in a double blind trial using a modified galvanometer. http://marius.netfirms.com/GAYBOIRON.html      But now that’s not good enough. Now the question has reverted to the qualifications of the man who brought you the method. "Ah, the method of determination doesn’t matter anymore, what really matters to us is Benneth’s sanity. And now we’re concerned that we may have gone to far in provoking the poor loon."      Could it be that you’r attacking me, Syd, because you’ve seen how easy it is? I ‘ve read you responding to questions about homeoapthy as if you believe in it, explaining its qualities and virtues, yet you seem to believe that somehow these methods that prove the real existence of a homeopathic force to be inconsequential. Perhaps you secretly hope that if Benneth can be disqualified, there might be an opportunity for you to win the award? After all, once the method is known, proper execution, when the reward is so high, can be assured if one pleases the magician. If you can get the current contgender disqualified, that leaves you as the authority.     I am aslo compelled to note that you failed to direct this message to me by way of e-mail, having left off my name from the return address. And you didn’t post this question to the mailing list dedicated to this very subject, of which you are a member, now did you? Why not write to me directly about it if you were really seeking a response? I just happened to find this message, but htese messages become quickly buried in these newsgroups, you ought to know, you post to them frequently.      Strange behavior for a man who claims to be an authority on how to combat depression. Maybe you’re subconciously trying to steal this award from me by driving me insane, is that it? ANd even if I am a little odd, it shouldn’t relieve Randi, science, medicine, fair reporting or you of your reponsibilities in this matter, now should it?      Seems like it went from ad rem to ad hominem ad nauseum all too quickly, eh Sys ol’ sot?      Butlooky here, Syd. Tomorrow’s a new day, and you know I love you and that I’ll owe you a sizeable chunk of the award if I ever win it, because you were the one who got me into it, and despite being a bit of a buttinsky, here you still are, at my side, faithful as a somewhat disobedient lapdog. I’ve never avoided a time or a place for a test of a method because one’s never been offered. If there’s been an argument from me, its been simply to question the validity of the fairness and intent of the Psychic Challenge. I think this bunch has been engaing in racketeering, and my intuition tells me something more, and I’ve been regularly forwarding these posts tot he Department of Justice and GOldman Sachs.      So test me, try me. try the methods I’ve presented. Call Schwartz at the HESL. Epstein at Mt. St. Mary’s. Do your job as a journalist.  Interview Conte, the leading authority, IMO, in homeopathic research in the world today.  Talk to Chris Wodtke, the world’s best Kirlian photogrpaher, the man who took those amazing pictures of the homeoapthic aura and identified 80% of the solutions I sent him in a blinded trial.. Write to Wayne Jonas, the founding director of the Office of Alternative Medicine at the NIH. Or write them all. Stupid people just sit around and speculate with their opinions,Syd. They’re usually very arrogant, "knowing people. They never ask really open ended questions, or really try to get information about anything. They’re affected by hubris. Did COlombo ever solve a case by being uppity? But smart people actually dig into things, ask questions and investigate. Why not be a smart person?  I’ll send you their addresses. Fair enough? You can even run the tests yourself. They’re relatively fast and easy. The HESL did and got some rather odd ahnd anomalous results, just as I predicted, so now they’re going at it again. They’re digging. You should … read more »

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      It’s been suggested by Louis "Bowels" Minatti in the above newsgroups that I hate Randi. Lou, Lou, this is nonsense! I am compelled to state that nothing could be further from the truth! Why, I love the dear little elf! Sounds like you have a Randi fetish. Don’t you mean ‘fettish’? fetish – n.     1 any object believed by superstitious people to have magical power     2 any thing or activity to which one is irrationally devoted !to make a fetish of sports"     3 Psychiatry any nonsexual object, such as a foot or a glove, that abnormally excites erotic feelings Also sp. fet4ich fettish – Commonly misspelled entry for fetish

I didn’t get Citizen Ted’s comment either. — Happy Holidays from SpOOk Central! http://www.watchingyou.com  ____     ____    __  __            ____    ____    ______               /  _`  /  _` / /  _______ /  _` /  _` /  _    /’_/`    

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<A bunch of idiotic horseshit This has nothing to do with magic. Go away. Before you buy.

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     It’s been suggested by Louis "Bowels" Minatti in the above newsgroups that I hate Randi. Lou, Lou, this is nonsense! I am compelled to state that nothing could be further from the truth! Why, I love the dear little elf! Sounds like you have a Randi fetish.

        Don’t you mean ‘fettish’?         – TR         – welcoming the new Earl Gordon Curley. Hey Johnny: got any predictions for 2000? <guffaw

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     It’s been suggested by Louis "Bowels" Minatti in the above newsgroups that I hate Randi. Lou, Lou, this is nonsense! I am compelled to state that nothing could be further from the truth! Why, I love the dear little elf! Sounds like you have a Randi fetish. Don’t you mean ‘fettish’?

fetish – n.     1 any object believed by superstitious people to have magical power     2 any thing or activity to which one is irrationally devoted !to make a fetish of sports"     3 Psychiatry any nonsexual object, such as a foot or a glove, that abnormally excites erotic feelings Also sp. fet4ich fettish –     Commonly misspelled entry for fetish

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Pathetic. Truly pathetic.

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     It’s been suggested by Louis "Bowels" Minatti in the above newsgroups that I hate Randi. Lou, Lou, this is nonsense! I am compelled to state that nothing could be further from the truth! Why, I love the dear little elf!

Sounds like you have a Randi fetish. Be sure to check out John’s favorite web page! http://www.watchingyou.com/randi.html — Happy Holidays from SpOOk Central! http://www.watchingyou.com  ____     ____    __  __            ____    ____    ______               /  _`  /  _` / /  _______ /  _` /  _` /  _    /’_/`    

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     It’s been suggested by Louis "Bowels" Minatti in the above newsgroups that I hate Randi. Lou, Lou, this is nonsense! I am compelled to state that nothing could be further from the truth! Why, I love the dear little elf!      How could I hate a man who has offered me such great wealth?      This man, Randal James Hamilton Zwinge, aka DOCTOR James "the Amazing" Randi, has been the pathway to my salvation!       You know, he certainly looks like Santa Claus to me, and he’s been like Santa Claus to me! Because of him I have received many spiritual gifts, much learning of material fact, and if promises hold true, through him I will be made a very rich man in fact, and in deed!        And he’s amusing, too!        The man is generous beyond words, his largesse knows no end!     . Yes, he’s been a tough teacher and a difficult task master who has held me to my lessons, but consider the payoff.      Little do those who chide me suspect how much . . .      I have a great deal of thanks and praise for the dear old fellow. Beyond his known virtues as an accomplished magician and perhaps the world’s greatest escape artist, there is much much more that those who think otherwise do not know.      Say, did you see him that time he wriggled out of a straight jacket while being dangled by his heels over Niagara Falls?  He even manages to appear to get away with soliciting minors for sex, of the male gender nonetheless!  I think this guy can even get away with murder! I bet this man could eat a baby for lunch in full view of the world and receive thunderous applause for it. He is truly the Amazing Randi!       Now how could I want to do anything but repay this man for all his great deeds? So, for his reward, I’m determined to assist as much as I am able to give him exactly what he needs . . . . and exactly what he deserves . . . John Benneth

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     Say, did you see him that time he wriggled out of a straight jacket while being dangled by his heels over Niagara Falls?  He even manages to appear to get away with soliciting minors for sex, of the male gender nonetheless!  I think this guy can even get away with murder! I bet this man could eat a baby for lunch in full view of the world and receive thunderous applause for it. He is truly the Amazing Randi!

… And after posting this, you want him to give you money? Please, tell me you’re trying to be funny. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – John Benneth

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    Here’s some of the simple ways I’ve come up with to prove homeopathy. These are the methods that have driven Randi to accuse me of insanity. These are methods anyone can use to apply to and theoretically win the Psychic Challenge.

You should have titled your post "Fifty Ways to Fleece the Fools". Ladies and Gentlemen: Please know that you are free to send to John whatever you please.  It is not for me to say what you can do with your money.  However, you should know that his claims of homeopathic miracles go un-reported in the press, newspapers, TV, etc; unfinanced by leading banks and un-validated by the leading scientific research institutions for a very good reason-  The Global Randi Cabal! Yes folks, little did you know that that gentle skeptic is really in charge of the entire Global News Network, dictating to his minions how they should strive to keep John Benneth and his miracles out of the public eye. You see, Randi considers Benneth the greatest threat to world peace since P.T. Barnum.  John is such a major threat, that Randi was forced to use his secret psychic powers to bring every news organization in the world under his personal control- just to counter John. (Though it is curious that one paper failed to fall under his spell-  The Weekly World News.  No one has been able to adaquately explain that.) You should also know that the Randi Cabal is working dilligently to bring all the world’s major financial institutions under his control.  He has already seized power in the stock exchanges (how else can you explain the amazing rise in the markets lately!), and several major banks will announce their capitulation soon by rasing the ATM rates again. All because John Benneth is such a great threat. Randi has also siezed control of major scientific research institutions through the simple expedient of controling all major funding organizations- both public and private.  Mustn’t let the World’s Greatest Threat- John Benneth- get near MIT! So, by all means, send John all your loose change…. what the hell!  Send him the rent money too! But save a couple of bucks for a dunce cap-  you will be required to wear one for buying John’s drivel. Here is a question to ask yourself: If water can retain the memory of chemical and biological agents through countless dilutions, how come we are not all very dead right now? Think of the homeopathic memories the water from the tap has:  E-Coli is least offensive way I can put one contaminant.  Bet there are all sorts of interesting compounds that your water has come in contact with lately, like- various soap products, drano, toxic salt concentrations, cooling water from tool & die shop, those science experiments at the high school, and whatever it is that oozes out of Aunt Millie’s mo….  but enough of that. For you folks who, like me, get your water from the well,  the ground is chock full of minute concentrations of all sort of nasty things-  arsenic, mold, old rusty Dodges, your sister-in-law’s fruitcake (the one with the half-life of 73 years) that you buried, to say nothing about what all those nasty forest creatures are depositing. And this witches brew of nastiness comes out of your tap- just brimming with these highly diluted, but still toxic "memories"- cutting down all before Brother John can save the day with his glass of altered ph water. Right? So, if you really want to send your hard earned money to John, be aware that it is not Randi who is John’s enemy, it is common sense.  Randi is not the one who stands between John Benneth and sainthood, it is the intelligence that you were born with. Randi is simply the scapgoat of all failed purveyors of silliness, like John. Hell- come to that, if you really _must_ send someone your money, send it to ME!  I’m not selling any foolishness, nor am I trying to hawk some dubious science and blaming all my failures on some Great Satan. That’s gotta be worth something! hutch (Remove The Beast for email) Sometimes, it is better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness. — Terry Pratchett

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     So I need your help to maintain this fight. Give me a call. If you’re interested in joining with me in this battle, I’d like to talk This is a battle we’re going to win, but only if I get your help to do it. So please contact me today, and offer me what material or spiritual support you can afford. John Benneth 503 661 4842

And if you raised enough money to hire a major accounting firm to hold the double-blind code for a preliminary trial demonstration of your yeast-, pH-, or other test, would you do the test for the JREF, as your formerly close associate, the homeopath Alain Jean-Mairet, Randi, and I (who you have so often publicly described as fair and impartial) painstakingly negotiated for you last August (complete with the promise of a signed in advance – by Randi – copy of your application form)?  Or are there other reasons why you feel such a test still wouldn’t be fair? (Please specify.)  Remember, you can satisfy Randi’s claimed fear of legal liability should you go postal or something by having Gary Schwartz testify in writing to your mental stability (if that’s his judgement, as you’ve implied) or simply by signing a notarized waiver yourself, as offered by Randi a few months ago. Syd            http://www.escape.ca/~sgb                      Dealing with Depression Naturally                               and other books by Syd Baumel.

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     Here’s some of the simple ways I’ve come up with to prove homeopathy.

CHALLANGE’S #$%!! rules and PASSING it is not one of them. Funny that you can’t really do that, but keep demanding the money, eh Mr. Benneth? No wonder Randi laughs in your face. Did you get any reply from Janet Reno yet? No? Thought so… Avital Pilpel

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–     Here’s some of the simple ways I’ve come up with to proven homeopathy. This whole discussion is pointless, because even if can show a difference between a homeopathic solution and one that isn’t a homeopathic solution, it doesn’t mean that homeopathic solutions can cure sickness whatsoever.  Only double blind studies can do that.  Any money should go into that.  So what if PH might be different or if your oat seeds do better?  Big deal.  Let’s see if they can cure diseases. I would also like to mention that during the 1800s when homeopathy was created, it was during a time when health knowledge was so awful, that anything that had no side effects was better than what supposed doctors practiced.  For example, it was thought that infections actually were useful in trying to cure wounds, which is why a lot people died.  It’s no wonder that homeopathy was so popular back then if it didn’t harm anyone!

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–     Here’s some of the simple ways I’ve come up with to proven homeopathy. This whole discussion is pointless, because even if can show a difference between a homeopathic solution and one that isn’t a homeopathic solution, it doesn’t mean that homeopathic solutions can cure sickness whatsoever.  Only double blind studies can do that.  Any money should go into that.  So what if PH might be different or if your oat seeds do better?  Big deal.  Let’s see if they can cure diseases.

Tha’s why we have controlled clinical trials of homeopathy, of which there now are about 100.  As reviewed and meta-analyzed in the last decade in BMJ and The Lancet, these studies collectively very, very strongly suggest homeopathy is, in general, significantly superior to placebos and equal or better to active reference treatments for various conditions.  The odds against this being a fluke, spurious artifact, etc. – even when publication bias, methodological quality, and other relevant criteria are controlled for – are extremely high. See for example Linde et al., Lancet, 1997. But these studies MEAN NOTHING when it comes to Randi’s challenge – by definition.  And if you think it’s financially practical (or even logistically doable, to Randi’s satisfaction) for someone to win the challenge by demonstrating a statistically significant effect in a double-blind clinical trial, Randi has some choice real estate in the swamps of Florida he’d like to sell you. This is why simple tests such as those which Benneth could do if he really wanted to or was able to are the most sensible way to win the Challenge. Syd            http://www.escape.ca/~sgb                      Dealing with Depression Naturally                               and other books by Syd Baumel.                                      …and cool record reviews!

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    Here’s some of the simple ways I’ve come up with to prove homeopathy. These are the methods that have driven Randi to accuse me of insanity. These are methods anyone can use to apply to and theoretically win the Psychic Challenge. http://www.randi.org     They don’t use people and three of the methods make use of common household products.     In one method I presented to Randi, the yeast test, one can use bottles containing a mixture of sugar and yeast and measure their reaction to homeopathic substances by placing balloons over the bottle mouth which expand with out gassing.

OK…so why don’t you tell us what your protocol is? This is pretty vague.     I got this idea from a couple of British researchers from the Royal Homeopathic Academy, Jones and Jenkins. I forwarded their study to Randi in July, when he asked me for it. http://www.marius.net/yeast.html (this link is often down)

Yes, I guess so…I just tried it. So what good is it? [snip more claims and paranoia] Yes, yes, yes. You claim to be able to get 150% more growth with homeopathic solutions. So what? Claims are cheap. What’s the methodology? Can I do this at home? Can a kid do this for a science fair project? If it’s so easy and unambiguous, as you imply, why don’t we see more similar results? If your homeopathic treatments can increase plant growth so much, why aren’t farmers doing it? If it can ‘reverse’ cancer, as you claim, how come homeopaths still get cancer?     So I need your help to maintain this fight. Give me a call. If you’re interested in joining with me in this battle, I’d like to talk This is a battle we’re going to win, but only if I get your help to do it. So please contact me today, and offer me what material or spiritual support you can afford.

Tsk, tsk. Asking for money this way is a great way to flag yourself as a charlatan. — PZ Myers

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     Here’s some of the simple ways I’ve come up with to prove homeopathy. These are the methods that have driven Randi to accuse me of insanity. These are methods anyone can use to apply to and theoretically win the Psychic Challenge. http://www.randi.org      They don’t use people and three of the methods make use of common household products.      In one method I presented to Randi, the yeast test, one can use bottles containing a mixture of sugar and yeast and measure their reaction to homeopathic substances by placing balloons over the bottle mouth which expand with out gassing.      I got this idea from a couple of British researchers from the Royal Homeopathic Academy, Jones and Jenkins. I forwarded their study to Randi in July, when he asked me for it. http://www.marius.net/yeast.html (this link is often down)      About two months later, Randi allegedly sent the yeast "protocol" to a government chemist by the name of Mike Epstein for review. Epstein is also an instructor at Mt. St. Mary’s College in Emmitsburg, MD. Epstein reportedly has received a thousand dollars from Randi for debunking pseudoscience, and Epstein has titled his website as "Psychic Chemistry and James Randi." Check it out for yourself. http://www.spectrometer.org/path/randi.html       Since Randi refused to identify Epstein, I had to track him down and contact him myself after I found mention of him on Randi’s website. After corresponding with me briefly, Epstein now refuses to answer any further questions from me.       In another test I found that oat seeds produced a dramatic reaction to homeopathic drugs. I was given this idea by Patty Smith of the British Homeopathic Institute and Emil Golub, of Plant Homeopathy, who produces homeopathic agriculture stimulants.      Previous researchers, such as Conte, Roy and Boyd have also reported homeopathic action on plants.      In my test, the test samples produced 150% more growth over the controls.      In another test I found that pH appeared to be altered by homeopathic substances. I got this idea from a report by scientists in a study commissioned by the Indian government. Currently this test is being replicated by the Human Energy Systems Laboratory at the University of Arizona in Tucson.      In another test I found what appeared to be differences in the electrographic aura produced around droplets of water.  I got this idea from Jean Elmiger, M.D.,  the author of REDISCOVERING REAL MEDICINE. The test was run by Kirlian photographer Chris Wodtke.      Obviously, then, there are many methods by which to demonstrate the action of homeopathic drugs, using, enzymes, plants and animals.      The methods I have come up with are simplifications of studies I have found in the published literature. Each of the procedures I have presented here, which the exception of the electrography, have been substantiated by more comprehensive research done by professional scientific investigators.      But these methods are not generally known by mainstream science, and not even generally known by homeopaths.      But what has the response been? It’s been to mis-characterize me personally and call me a fraud or insane. That’s the only way the Randians can try to squeeze out of the straight jacket they’ve donned.       Attack the man, dismiss the method . . . and try to shut down  his website, which mysteriously keeps going off-line. I reported this to Epstein, hoping that he would have a sense of fair play and help to insure that I have a secure website. Yeah, right, dream on.   But the problem for them will forever remain, nevertheless, because the method remains even after the man is gone.     So now I’m reaching out to you, the reader, to assist me in this battle. I don’t know what it is specifically that you should be able to do, but I believe that if you are receiving this message, you have the ability to help, and I believe its important not just for you on a personal level, I think its important for all of Mankind..      Obviously we need financial support in this battle. We also need a secure website so we can present this data. We also need the support of connections. We need air time, so we can present our findings, we need an editor, we need ink, we need a webmaster. We need to turn this into a serious business, and I want your help to do it.      So if you’re critical about this, get off your high horse and give me a hand nto make it right. The proof here is overwhelming. Once you have seen the results of these tests and you have reviewed the literature, there will be no doubt in your mind that his is an effective form of medical treatment and that it has far reaching implications, not just for medicine but for agriculture and industry as well, and it opens up new possibilities for scientific theory that is beginning to take on mythic proportions.      I don’t need an argument by kids playing on the newsgroups, what I need is real, substantive HELP. We need financial assistance and people with real skills to extend and expand this discussion and to present these finding comprehensively. We need a publisher. We need a producer, we need a budget.       I couldn’t ask if I was just asking for myself. But I’m not just asking for myself. I’m convinced the quality of life and life itself, hangs in the balance.And this includes those who would try to suppress this information through ridicule and fraud,      This evidence, and evidence like it, needs to be better known by more people. It’s a threat to existing paradigms and so every time it gets presented, I get kicked.      Look, dear reader. We don’t need to be kicked or put down or humiliated for exploring a little known and mysterious phenomena. We don’t need to be threatened for investigating anomalies. We need to know more about these things, not less.      On principle alone, what Randi and his cohorts are doing is wrong. I believe that this whole "Psychic Challenge" has been a cover for criminal activity, and that it’s operating at your expense.      The Psychic Challenge hasn’t been about encouraging scientific exploration. It’s been about hurting people who are advancing our understanding of physics and medicine. The Psychic Challenge is about repressing free thinking.        These people who support the Psychic Challenge canard are discouraging tentative explorations into subtle energy phenomena. We need more discussion about these things in a civil manner. But our battle to understand subtle energy phenomena and to share our discoveries with the world needs the support of more people than it currently has.       In every case I’ve looked at where there has been a discovery of the action on plants animals or enzymes, or a mechanical survey, the report has faded into ignominy. I presume that the investigator who made the report in each instance was hammered down by rejection, threats  and ridicule, just as I have been.      Just recently, for instance, two Italian researchers discovered minute thermal differences in homeopathically potentized water. This alone demonstrates that a real phenomenon exists in homeopathic medicine. But was it seized upon by the medical community to herald the advent of a new medicine? Was the world community of science challenged to examine a new field of endeavor?      My review of the literature has found over fifty (50) reports detailing the effect of homeopathic drugs on enzymes, plants, animals and instruments. And Randi still insists homeopathic drugs are placebos? http://marius.netfirms.com/research.html       The only difference here, from now and the past, I think, is this, the Internet. Because here the reports are not screened out by producers and editors. Here the scoffers can only respond ad hominem. Look at the previous threads for my posts on the newsgroups and you’ll see what I mean.       It’s not easy to believe in these subtle energy phenomena, they fly in the face of reason. They become open targets for ridicule, and so to date, the homeopathic industry has to just chug along and keep its head down.       But here on the Internet, information can be kept perpetually before the public. These reports have far reaching implications for medicine and agriculture. It can become the prevailing paradigm for medicine, but its going to be chore to make it so, because its opponents are legion.       But consider this. Even though it has met with tremendous opposition, it has recently been making millions of dollars simply as cold and hay fever remedies. And what we know about it is minuscule compared to what is indicated as to what it can do.       I have found, in my studies, where genetic cancer was reversed by the use of homeopathic drugs. From another research team I learned that homeopathic drugs appear to actually affect the DNA. We’ve seen reports of premature metamorphoses and even death induced by homeopathic drugs. This suggests, and clinical reports concur, with the suggestion that any disease can be reversed through the use of homeopathic drugs.      It also suggest that a misunderstanding of their use is endangering the health of people worldwide. Now here we have Rnadi colluding with an employee of the government. Do Epstein’s supervisor’s know what he’s doing? Are they supportive of this? How high does this go? If they’re colluding with foreign nationals such as Sima Nan through the Psychic Challenge, does that constitute treason? Was Randi ever naturalized after he swam over from Toronto?      But what do we hear in response to that? What he hear are catcalls and quacking, and the faint of heart step away . . .      There isn’t really much known about the action or use of homeopathic medicines. It’s really an entirely open field, that despite the egregious amount of scoffing it has suffered from medicine and physics, has been growing at an unprecedented rate. Much to the chagrin of those who have scoffed at it previously, these products are now being advertised openly and sold over … read more »

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My LNS, Acorns and Threads, is hosting a "Lecture on American Schoolgirl Samplers" by Pat Ryan and Ann Robbins of R & R Reproductions. The lecture will be on Saturday, April 24, 1999, from 6:30-9:30 in the auditorium at Tigard High School. The cost is $30.00 for tickets purchased prior to the lecture, or $35.00 (cash only) at the door. Anyone who would like a ticket can call or write Roz at: Acorns and Threads 4475 SW Scholls Ferry Rd, Suite 158 Portland  OR   97225 (503)292-4457 Or if you would like additional information, e-mail me and I will e-mail back the information from the flyer. Juli or de gustibus non est disputandum (there is no accounting for taste)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -My LNS, Acorns and Threads, is hosting a "Lecture on American Schoolgirl Samplers" by Pat Ryan and Ann Robbins of R & R Reproductions. The lecture will be on Saturday, April 24, 1999, from 6:30-9:30 in the auditorium at Tigard High School. The cost is $30.00 for tickets purchased prior to the lecture, or $35.00 (cash only) at the door. Anyone who would like a ticket can call or write Roz at: Acorns and Threads 4475 SW Scholls Ferry Rd, Suite 158 Portland  OR   97225 (503)292-4457

    If you’re nearby, don’t miss this!  They’re great! mb

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Financial statements contains historical data, jet still they are the most widely used information for investment decision making.

That’s obvious.  It’s a tradeoff of reliable data vs relevant data.  I suggest you check out the "Statement of Principles" contained within UK exposure drafts. I am writing my thesis on "The usefulness of financial statement for invest- ment decision making".Comparing financial statements prepared using US-GAAP and those prepared using German Commercial Code. I will appreciate if shareholders, finance analysts and accountants can give me their opinion on using foreign financial statements in making their investment decisions.

US GAAP is fantastic because you know that the same event will be treated the same way in a different set of accounts.  However the treatments can be questionable, to say the least.  German GAAP is also seriously questionable – my limited understanding is that accounts are driven by the tax treatment rather than by the accounts presentation. Therefore they’ll write assets off over a short period as this is the most efficient for tax. You should include UK GAAP within your thesis – we’re allowed to use significant amounts of judgement in preparing the accounts – this means that they are perhaps the fairest method of presentation but it does make comparability difficult. — "If you want to look at my feet, say so," said the young man.  "But don’t be a God-damned sneak about it."                               (from "A Perfect Day for Bananafish")

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Financial statements contains historical data, jet still they are the most widely used information for investment decision making. I am writing my thesis on "The usefulness of financial statement for invest- ment decision making".Comparing financial statements prepared using US-GAAP and those prepared using German Commercial Code. I will appreciate if shareholders, finance analysts and accountants can give me their opinion on using foreign financial statements in making their investment decisions.

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What is the different between 999 and 998 ?

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  I replaced my 998’s with 999’s and other than the slight cosmetic changes, there doesn’t seem to be much difference. I didn’t perceive any change in the feel and fit (after accounting for the age/milage on the 998’s).     barrett

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