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 AccountingWEB US – Jul-23-2003 – The Financial Accounting Standards Board has brought a midsummer’s gift to the accounting profession. The status, summary, and full text of all statements are now available online, and free of charge. For years, practitioners, educators and students have grumbled about the lack of free access to the rules and regulations governing the profession they are serving. FASB has responded accordingly. <snip To access the documents, go to the FASB Web site and click on FASB Statements, or click on the link to http://www.fasb.org/st. http://www.accountingweb.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=97867 While this is old news to the regulars here, it is worth a post if for no other reason than easy access. Jim Hudspeth

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//snipped// For years, practitioners, educators and students have grumbled about the lack of free access to the rules and regulations governing the profession they are serving. FASB has responded accordingly. //snipped// To access the documents, go to the FASB Web site and click on FASB Statements, or click on the link to http://www.fasb.org/st. //snipped// Jim Hudspeth Now– if they would just make GASB documents free!

Probably not as much pressure.  It will probably happen though. Jim

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Thank goodness they finally did this.  Now I have bedtime reading material that is sure to put me to sleep within the first paragraph. DGG "Why am I up this early on a Saturday morning?" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – AccountingWEB US – Jul-23-2003 – The Financial Accounting Standards Board has brought a midsummer’s gift to the accounting profession. The status, summary, and full text of all statements are now available online, and free of charge. For years, practitioners, educators and students have grumbled about the lack of free access to the rules and regulations governing the profession they are serving. FASB has responded accordingly. <snip To access the documents, go to the FASB Web site and click on FASB Statements, or click on the link to http://www.fasb.org/st. http://www.accountingweb.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=97867 While this is old news to the regulars here, it is worth a post if for no other reason than easy access. Jim Hudspeth

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Thank goodness they finally did this.  Now I have bedtime reading material that is sure to put me to sleep within the first paragraph.

The real benefit is that we can now have informed public discussion about accounting matters with non-accountants.  Anyone with a PC (or a MAC) can now download and at least attempt to read them. DGG "Why am I up this early on a Saturday morning?"

Same reasons I am – we are just a bit crazy. Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Now if we could only get the same for Canadian standards… — Stephanie Serba, AICIA Partner, Durham Business Outsource Accounting & Technology www.dbo.ca

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – //snipped// For years, practitioners, educators and students have grumbled about the lack of free access to the rules and regulations governing the profession they are serving. FASB has responded accordingly. //snipped// To access the documents, go to the FASB Web site and click on FASB Statements, or click on the link to http://www.fasb.org/st. //snipped// Jim Hudspeth Now– if they would just make GASB documents free! Tippy

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Whew, I don’t envy you guys what with all your disharmonious harmony taxes and the contrarians in Quebec to deal with. DGG "CANADA:  Leading the world in being just north of the United States." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Now if we could only get the same for Canadian standards…

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Not going there with EITHER of those topics… The GREAT STUPID TAX… Right. — Stephanie Serba, AICIA Partner, Durham Business Outsource Accounting & Technology www.dbo.ca

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whew, I don’t envy you guys what with all your disharmonious harmony taxes and the contrarians in Quebec to deal with. DGG "CANADA:  Leading the world in being just north of the United States." Now if we could only get the same for Canadian standards…

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Who is this FASB access and why does he/she need to be freed?  On what charges was he/she improperly imprisoned? DGG "Boycott DGG" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – AccountingWEB US – Jul-23-2003 – The Financial Accounting Standards Board has brought a midsummer’s gift to the accounting profession. The status, summary, and full text of all statements are now available online, and free of charge. For years, practitioners, educators and students have grumbled about the lack of free access to the rules and regulations governing the profession they are serving. FASB has responded accordingly. <snip To access the documents, go to the FASB Web site and click on FASB Statements, or click on the link to http://www.fasb.org/st. http://www.accountingweb.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=97867 While this is old news to the regulars here, it is worth a post if for no other reason than easy access. Jim Hudspeth

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  AccountingWEB US – Jul-23-2003 – The Financial Accounting Standards Board has brought a midsummer’s gift to the accounting profession. The status, summary, and full text of all statements are now available online, and free of charge. For years, practitioners, educators and students have grumbled about the lack of free access to the rules and regulations governing the profession they are serving. FASB has responded accordingly. <snip To access the documents, go to the FASB Web site and click on FASB Statements, or click on the link to http://www.fasb.org/st. http://www.accountingweb.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=97867 While this is old news to the regulars here, it is worth a post if for no other reason than easy access. Jim Hudspeth

I’ve been teaching summer school and grading exams so I just saw this. Glad to know I wasn’t the only one pissing and moaning about FASB’s previous policy. Regards, Bill

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this week my body has started this new little thing.   I don’t know if its cuz I’m eating light dinners w/ not enoug fat or what.   But – about 9:30pm I’m getting the munches. UGH.   So far I’ve been behaving myself and maybe have something light to eat.   But – I don’t like this new little habit.

i’ve been getting up and going to bed really late for the past 2 weeks or so and often have a late night snack after dinner because i get plain hungry. i think the secret is how to choose that food particularly wisely (something light, and most of all, nothing high in carbs). nina 210/157/140

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Is it possible that you are not eating enough during the day?  Perhaps it’s a signal from your body to eat more.   Have you been exercising more than usual?   What has recently changed in your WOE that prompts the munchies? If it’s real hunger, not mouth hunger, you could have a little snack or eat a bit more at dinner, depending on your WOE. L 66lb loss maintained since May 1996

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – this week my body has started this new little thing.   I don’t know if its cuz I’m eating light dinners w/ not enoug fat or what.   But – about 9:30pm I’m getting the munches. UGH.   So far I’ve been behaving myself and maybe have something light to eat.   But – I don’t like this new little habit.

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this week my body has started this new little thing.   I don’t know if its cuz I’m eating light dinners w/ not enoug fat or what.   But – about 9:30pm I’m getting the munches.   UGH.   So far I’ve been behaving myself and maybe have something light to eat.   But – I don’t like this new little habit.

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Actually – I haven’t been exercising as much.   The changes in wol recently are:   1.  the BF issue and making sure I cook enough food for him every day.   (which means I’m back to serious portion control on the dinenrs – instead of just a salad or shake).   and 2.   Serious work stress – which means by 9:30 at night – I’m finally beginning to wind down after an extremely stressful day – and not being able to find time for exercise. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is it possible that you are not eating enough during the day?  Perhaps it’s a signal from your body to eat more.   Have you been exercising more than usual?   What has recently changed in your WOE that prompts the munchies? If it’s real hunger, not mouth hunger, you could have a little snack or eat a bit more at dinner, depending on your WOE. L 66lb loss maintained since May 1996 this week my body has started this new little thing.   I don’t know if its cuz I’m eating light dinners w/ not enoug fat or what.   But – about 9:30pm I’m getting the munches. UGH.   So far I’ve been behaving myself and maybe have something light to eat.   But – I don’t like this new little habit.

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this week my body has started this new little thing.   I don’t know if its cuz I’m eating light dinners w/ not enoug fat or what.   But – about 9:30pm I’m getting the munches.   UGH.   So far I’ve been behaving myself and maybe have something light to eat.   But – I don’t like this new little habit.

Oh man, could it be the change in the weather?  I’ve noticed the exact same thing… I sate it with a couple of pieces of toast or a small bowl of cereal. Grrr. Tirya 206/166/160 Minigoal – to stay at or below 170 till I move

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Actually – I haven’t been exercising as much.   The changes in wol recently are:   1.  the BF issue and making sure I cook enough food for him every day.   (which means I’m back to serious portion control on the dinenrs – instead of just a salad or shake).   and 2.   Serious work stress – which means by 9:30 at night – I’m finally beginning to wind down after an extremely stressful day – and not being able to find time for exercise.

I see what you mean by work stress.  Since I recently started working again for my former company, I have increased stress.  Not to mention also working for my husband in the afternoons.  There was a crisis the other day that I had to fix at night, and the new computer system is so effing slow.   I miss the old host.   Anyway, it still needs a lot fixing up, and I keep finding problems with it to fix.   In hindsight, they should have called me in the first place to set things straight when they moved the computer system to a NT server.   The consultant and the vendor didn’t do a good job with it. Anyway, may I suggest writing down a list of things you could try to relax at night, even if it’s for only a few minutes, if not already?  Say, listening to soothing music, journaling, venting to your BF or your friend, etc.   Anything you can think of for destressing. Oh, I just remembered something.  When you work extra hard, you could be hungrier than before because your brain uses more calories.  I find myself more hungry when I study a textbook or work harder.   According to fitday.com, studying (to me, which is the same as working) burns more calories than just sitting.   In this case, you could use a lite snack. Just a thought. L 66lb loss maintained since May 1996

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I see what you mean by work stress.  Since I recently started working again for my former company, I have increased stress.  Not to mention also working for my husband in the afternoons.  There was a crisis the other day that I had to fix at night, and the new computer system is so effing slow.   I miss the old host.   Anyway, it still needs a lot fixing up, and I keep finding problems with it to fix.   In hindsight, they should have called me in the first place to set things straight when they moved the computer system to a NT server.   The consultant and the vendor didn’t do a good job with it.

I work for a company w/ appr 300 emp, we have thousands of projects and thousands of clients.  Our old accounting system was an alpha server w/ Oracle…  company was bought out and the new company is designing a new system – in the interim they have forced us to "upgrade" to a temp package that is an ….  (get this) …  Access 95 interface ….  installing 9 new servers – as well as forcing an upgrade on all users to be at least a PII 300 or better.  (for the managers who only use email and run the occasional reports for their projects – they’ve been running fine w/ 166’s).   This *new* software has been crashing the 2 citrix servers as well as a couple of the process servers.   Its a nightmare! Oh – and to boot – their software was never tested – we "are" their beta testers. Today I had Fried cheesecake for lunch – before eating my normal lunch.   It was either that or a stiff drink – and I can’t go back to work then.   OK – vent over … Anyway, may I suggest writing down a list of things you could try to relax at night, even if it’s for only a few minutes, if not already?  Say, listening to soothing music, journaling, venting to your BF or your friend, etc.   Anything you can think of for destressing.

My de-stressing has been "weight training for dummies" …  reading the "non school" related books and stuff like that.   Just – relaxing from 10 to 11pm and then going to sleep.  It calms me down. Oh, I just remembered something.  When you work extra hard, you could be hungrier than before because your brain uses more calories.  I find myself more hungry when I study a textbook or work harder.   According to fitday.com, studying (to me, which is the same as working) burns more calories than just sitting.   In this case, you could use a lite snack. Just a thought.

I have been eating a light snack when I do get hungry.   I have finally broken myself (and my son) out of the dessert habit – Last night I had some chicken salad at 9:30pm to satisfy the hunger.

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Today I had Fried cheesecake for lunch – before eating my normal lunch. It was either that or a stiff drink – and I can’t go back to work then.   Jenn, fried cheesecake?  They make such a thing?  Where?  Maybe I don’t want to know :^)

Wow, my two favorite foods in one…fried cheese+cheesecake= yeah, right, I don’t want to know, either! — Lisa B. 243/144.5/145

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Today I had Fried cheesecake for lunch – before eating my normal lunch.   It was either that or a stiff drink – and I can’t go back to work then.   Jenn, fried cheesecake?  They make such a thing?  Where?  Maybe I don’t want to know :^) Good luck with the Access debacle – it sounds like a nightmare that will have to be over soon, one way or another.  Bet the manager’s are happy to get their new P III’s. Julieanne

Lonestar steak house….  4 bite sized pieces of fried cheesecake topped w/ strawberry and carmel sauce then whipped cream.    Hey – in the grand scheme of things – its not "that" bad.  

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Today I had Fried cheesecake for lunch – before eating my normal lunch. It was either that or a stiff drink – and I can’t go back to work then.   Jenn, fried cheesecake?  They make such a thing?  Where?  Maybe I don’t want to know :^) Wow, my two favorite foods in one…fried cheese+cheesecake= yeah, right, I don’t want to know, either!

oops – too late – already posted …  don’t read my response to Julieanne

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NO YOU ARE THE SAD ONE ! ! ! ! All this HORSE HOCKEY didn’t start until YOU came to ASD a few months ago and then carried your HORSES BUTT over to MHD. NOW YOU HAVE A SPLIT IN YOUR HORSES BUTT BETWEEN ASD AND MHD AND YES I AM SCREAMING AT A DARN COMPUTER SCREEN. I AM SICK OF YOU AND YOUR CONSTANT HORSE HOCKEY. CHARLES YOU ARE AN IN HOUSE TROLL IF I EVER SAW ONE. Diana

Chill Di….   Step back, look at the screen and repeat 5 times "It’s the Internet, It’s not real"   Like my new sig line?  Does it apply in this case? Ronnie Ruff http://www.erols.com/driver8 ICQ 82821284 Don’t take life too seriously … because you won’t get out alive. — Bugs Bunny

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I think the Bobinlula quote was especially aappropriate, especially if we are talking about individual choices to killfile (filter) a poster.  If Lula *had* filtered Charles, she would not even know that his posting accused her, and should she not answer, she should be found guilty as charged perhaps by Chcarles, more hideous, by others who might assume that lack or response is an admission of guilt.

Still smarting over the Lula incident?  I’m sorry you got taken in not once but *several* times by this troll, who was in the newsgroups by one name or another for over a year.  Are you *still* unwilling to admit that I was right about her? Charles knew what he was doing, IIRC he is an attorney.

Wrong again, Jude.  I am not now, nor have I ever  been an attorney, or represented my self as being an attorney.  I did take a couple of courses in Business Law in my undergraduate degree, but that would hardly qualify.   My background was in accounting and clerical positions until 1961, when I entered  the Computer Science field, in which I remained in a supervisory or management position  in that or a related field for almost the next 36 years. Your attempt to inflame this newsgroup even further is sad. Charles Evans

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NO YOU ARE THE SAD ONE ! ! ! ! All this HORSE HOCKEY didn’t start until YOU came to ASD a few months ago and then carried your HORSES BUTT over to MHD. NOW YOU HAVE A SPLIT IN YOUR HORSES BUTT BETWEEN ASD AND MHD AND YES I AM SCREAMING AT A DARN COMPUTER SCREEN. I AM SICK OF YOU AND YOUR CONSTANT HORSE HOCKEY. CHARLES YOU ARE AN IN HOUSE TROLL IF I EVER SAW ONE. Diana — To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover the prisoner was you.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think the Bobinlula quote was especially aappropriate, especially if we are talking about individual choices to killfile (filter) a poster.  If Lula *had* filtered Charles, she would not even know that his posting accused her, and should she not answer, she should be found guilty as charged perhaps by Chcarles, more hideous, by others who might assume that lack or response is an admission of guilt. Still smarting over the Lula incident?  I’m sorry you got taken in not once but *several* times by this troll, who was in the newsgroups by one name or another for over a year.  Are you *still* unwilling to admit that I was right about her? Charles knew what he was doing, IIRC he is an attorney. Wrong again, Jude.  I am not now, nor have I ever  been an attorney, or represented my self as being an attorney.  I did take a couple of courses in Business Law in my undergraduate degree, but that would hardly qualify. My background was in accounting and clerical positions until 1961, when I entered  the Computer Science field, in which I remained in a supervisory or management position  in that or a related field for almost the next 36 years. Your attempt to inflame this newsgroup even further is sad. Charles Evans

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Kill-filing trouble-makers might help to prevent a forest fire from spreading among the old-timers and regulars in the newsgroup But unfortunately it actually encourages the forest fire to blaze out of control among newcomers who do not have the background in the newsgroup to recognize lies that are being fed to them. Nonesense.  What your saying now is that people can’t make up their own minds from what they read.

That is not what I said at all. I said that if we ignore what kill-filed people say to newcomers, those newcomers will not have the background in that newsgroup to know the reputation of the people they are talking to, and will often believe what they are told as long as they do not see any contradictory evidence before them. If you are new at a school and someone tells you that the cafeteria is through that door at the end of the hallway, you will probably assume that information to be true, unless someone warns you that the information was given to you by the school’s practical joker. – moshe

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –              On a group like this the only tool we have  is silence. I used to think so too untill I came upon a particularly savage troll on a gamesite message board.  This person has appeared off and onn for at least two years that I’m aware of and when asked to explain herself usually just ignores the question and launches into a profanity rich attack on the person concerned. Well as far as I am concerned silence is no weapon.  People like this should be told in no uncertain terms what they are doing is wrong.  It may have no effect but at least the truth is out and maybe, just maybe someone might wake up to themselves. If a person or group makes a decision or embarks on a course of action that is wrong, they should be told so.  It may not effect the action or the outcom but at least the truth has been spoken. — Deevo

Amen! – moshe

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Scribbled: If you are new at a school and someone tells you that the cafeteria is through that door at the end of the hallway, you will probably assume that information to be true, unless someone warns you that the information was given to you by the school’s practical joker.

Or the school Troll…..    :-) Ronnie Ruff http://www.erols.com/driver8 ICQ 82821284

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All I would like to add is that there seems to be a lot of posts under threads that concern spammers and trolls, and that some of the true diabetes posts also get into those subjects. It must be disconcerting for the newbies to need information, have one or two replies, and then have the original post go off on some tangent that doesn’t apply to the original post. Personalities clash. People clash. At the very least I would like to see civility. (and more snippage. *VBG*) My 2

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This article makes no sense whatsoever.  It contradicts itself. In one part the writer says that they cant stand Jim Carrey, only they use more words to say it then I did, then in another part they say they loved his portrayal of Andy Kauffman. Hard for me to get a grip on what this person is trying to say. And talk about slandering people with mental illness. This author is full of so much more hatred then this movie could ever be. Could the author be trying to drag attention to him/herself and away from the movie? Anyways I honestly don’t get it. Cattlover, do me a flavor wouldya and post the link you got this from. I would like to peruse it myself.  Thanks. Okay I have to say something about the protest over this movie. It pisses me off when someone says they know better than I do what I should see and what I shouldn’t.  Stinks of censorship. Bottom line is I am made more likely to see a film after some group tells me I shouldn’t.   Now as for there claim that Jim stereotypes people with mental illness. Who knows.  Maybe he does, maybe he doesnt.  Stupid people didn’t get there panties all up in a bunch over dumb and dumber, the Amish had nothing to say about Kingpin.  And liars everywhere had nothing to say over Liar Liar. So he decides to take on someone with depression, or shchizophrenia or whatever.  So what.  People, if we cannot laugh at ourselves then just who is there left for us to laugh at? Besides I think that sometimes these mental health groups do more damage then a movie like this could hope to do.  I mean the author did make one point.  We tell the mentally ill that they cant hold real jobs and relegate them to glue cardboard boxes or server hamburgers at McDonalds.  I know that is bullshit.  And that is the community that is protesting this movie that supports that!!  They think they are doing the mentally ill a favor? Oh and as far as that tag goes, mentally ill?  WTF?  It needs to go away.  It carries a stigma with it bigger than anything.  I broke my knee recently, if someone asks me why I am limping I don’t say I have a physical illness.  I say I have a broken knee. What would you rather someone say about you, that you have depression or that you have mental Illness?  Think about it.   I would rather have someone say I have depression.  Everyone knows someone with depression.   Anyways the real boycott should be against those assholes that are calling for the boycott.  I say let Jim Carrey be. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -NEWS ITEM: LOS ANGELES (AP) — A coalition of mental health advocacy groups sees nothing funny about Jim Carrey’s new movie, "Me, Myself & Irene," and wants some changes in its advertising. Carrey plays a Rhode Island police officer who has two personalities, one of them violent. That appears to be a negative portrayal of the mentally ill, says the head of the National Mental Health Association, which represents about 350 organizations nationwide. Mongoloids everywhere collectively grabbed a stubby crayon and attempted to scrawl a few simple words on wide-lined paper in protest of Mr. Carrey

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I had a nice dream last night. It involved lots of vomiting. First it was 2 babies puking on eachother, then it was a couple of old guys vomiting all over the place, which I didn’t see but when I followed the sound of the vomiting I found myself in a room where the walls and ceiling were covered in vomit, dripping off the ceiling too. Then there was an annoying kid vomiting all over the place too and he just grabbed me and refused to let go and I was trying to get away cus I knew he was gonna throw up on me. I managed to get away tho, just in time. I also had a dream about a dog. I have some nice dreams don’t I? Also when I woke up I thought I had to get up to go to school, but after a minute or so I realised I don’t go to school anymore. I also said for some unknown reason "we’re pathetic. I hate my life":P So, I have some odd mornings. G’night.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Victor" (_) writes: > I had a nice dream last night. > It involved lots of vomiting. > First it was 2 babies puking on eachother, then it was a couple of old > guys vomiting all over the place, which I didn’t see but when I > followed the sound of the vomiting I found myself in a room where the > walls and ceiling were covered in vomit, dripping off the ceiling too. > Then there was an annoying kid vomiting all over the place too and he > just grabbed me and refused to let go and I was trying to get away cus > I knew he was gonna throw up on me. > I managed to get away tho, just in time. > I also had a dream about a dog. > I have some nice dreams don’t I? > Also when I woke up I thought I had to get up to go to school, but > after a minute or so I realised I don’t go to school anymore. > I also said for some unknown reason "we’re pathetic. I hate my life":P > So, I have some odd mornings. > G’night.

I was always told that dreaming of poop meant "money coming in". Vomit, well, let’s hope that is not money going out L:) I dreamt for a change, two nights ago. The only bits I remember seem to be about two bits of dreams (neither seemed to last and both seemed dreamt just before I woke up, one after the other if seperate dreams. In one, I was in a bus. My change fell out of my pockets and into the bus seat…Only, In canada, coins can be one dollar coins and/or 2 dollar coins. In my dream, I had lost a half handfull or so, and I then proceeded to try and slip my hand between the seat and the back to try and get it back. But I then saw that as happens sometimes in buses, the seat was loose, not snapped nor screwed in the metal frame. I then made it slide, and lo and behold, many had lost their coins there. It was filled with a whole bunch f handfulls. I was trying to grab by the handfull to get my money back at ;east when a couple on the bus, the only two save me and the driver, started saying somethign about that money being theirs or eveyone’s where they anted it. I explained turning to the guy that I had dropped my own coins, a half handfull or so, there, myself and was trying to ge it back…But by the time I turned around to try some more, all the coinsd were gone…The gal had snatched it as her bfriend had distracted me. But I had a chance before they did to grab a few handfuls:). The driver as payign close attention lookng in his rear view mirror and I thought that at any time he woudl stop the bus and come grab it all:), or ask us/the couple to give him all the coins back. Seemd like poele hunfgry for money, hehehe. Only bit I rememebr of that one. Then I was in another dream, at the office. There, I do not remember a context or anything. I donlt think there was one, save my coilleague talking as she does at times being rude, and "baveuse" (arrogant and tlking with a loose mouth, like one aving a hot potato in their mouth when saying rude thngs like bum-teens, say. I donlt remeber what she said at all, nor did I hear any words per se in the dream save that it was supposed to be that I had heard, and racted to the tone anyway, telling the colleague rigt off the bat "You are so rude.". But using the word "Bete" which in France French means "beast/animal", nbut in quebvecer means like someone born without any civilized ways or always rude, no family education, no knoledge of politeness, just plain "rough" and mean/constantly in a foul mood. Ther, maybe "foul" says it best for the English equivalent (?). I threw that walking back to my office after she threw whatever usual on that tone of hers, which she threw as I was already walking to my office from the corridor, as if back from the file room to fetch something. I told her in the dream how "foul" she was but on a sort of statement tone, like oen not even bothering with what she might ever have to say/said, given the tone I foudn just not worthy of any other reply. I remembered waking up how dreams can be therapeutic. Probably everyen dreams of work all the time and tells poeple off or whatever. But in my case, this being the first dream of a year, if not of the lst year (might be, I hardly ever ever dream at all), it made me once more measure how much I miss out in just never or *almost* never dreaming. So what happened in your day that could make you now know what a dream where everyone vomits means…? Let us know in case anyone woudl ever dream that too;-):):) C —

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"Wing Commander Sandcastle" <ollie.sandcas…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:ahe4pv$sfr7m$1@ID-73971.news.dfncis.de… > www.slowwave.com

Interesting link, thanks.  I’ve just submitted the dream too.

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www.slowwave.com OTS "Ben G." <no_email_replies_tha…@thisisaspamblock.com> wrote in message

news:3d3a8380_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve started writing down my dreams, see what you make of this dream I had > last night: > I remember I went for a job interview in this dream somewhere in the south > of England.  I remember the interview going ok but I was asked some awkward > questions.  For instance, I recall being asked for proof of my > qualifications (original certificates) for when I went for the second > interview.  I remember that the position was only temporary and I couldn’t > get them to tell me about the salary.  It was a sort of accounting job > though with what seemed like a large element of problem solving.  The guy > who interviewed me said I’d have to come back for a second interview in > Ipswich I think.  This is where it went weird; I recall leaving the place > feeling down because of my lack of qualifications and then I heard a phone > conversation between another applicant and the guy who’d just interviewed > me.  The caller was a graduate of some kind an he was baffling on about > logic so I pretty much gave up on the idea of getting the job.  I then > recall leaving on a bicycle with loads of kids everywhere, I remember trying > to dodge them on my bike and avoid them even though it was impossible.  I > then recall thinking that I probably wouldn’t even take the job because it > was down in Suffolk and it would mean moving and the pay probably wasn’t > sufficient to warrant doing so.  I then remember driving round what was sort > of like Ipswich in an old classic (but beat up) car with someone (I can’t > recall who).  I remember seeing a few American cars before I went to park. > When I parked I seemed to have difficulty manoeuvring the car because it was > difficult to steer and I remember the car park attendant asking me to pull > forward to I could take the ticket from him.  I then remember parking up in > a dusty part of the car park (which was multi storey originally but was now > a normal car park) and leaving the ticket in the window of the car.  I then > remember walking down a quaint looking street street and into a shop of some > kind (I think it was a toy shop or possibly a music shop) with someone and > still thinking to myself whether to take the job or not.  At this point I > woke up.

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I’ve started writing down my dreams, see what you make of this dream I had last night: I remember I went for a job interview in this dream somewhere in the south of England.  I remember the interview going ok but I was asked some awkward questions.  For instance, I recall being asked for proof of my qualifications (original certificates) for when I went for the second interview.  I remember that the position was only temporary and I couldn’t get them to tell me about the salary.  It was a sort of accounting job though with what seemed like a large element of problem solving.  The guy who interviewed me said I’d have to come back for a second interview in Ipswich I think.  This is where it went weird; I recall leaving the place feeling down because of my lack of qualifications and then I heard a phone conversation between another applicant and the guy who’d just interviewed me.  The caller was a graduate of some kind an he was baffling on about logic so I pretty much gave up on the idea of getting the job.  I then recall leaving on a bicycle with loads of kids everywhere, I remember trying to dodge them on my bike and avoid them even though it was impossible.  I then recall thinking that I probably wouldn’t even take the job because it was down in Suffolk and it would mean moving and the pay probably wasn’t sufficient to warrant doing so.  I then remember driving round what was sort of like Ipswich in an old classic (but beat up) car with someone (I can’t recall who).  I remember seeing a few American cars before I went to park. When I parked I seemed to have difficulty manoeuvring the car because it was difficult to steer and I remember the car park attendant asking me to pull forward to I could take the ticket from him.  I then remember parking up in a dusty part of the car park (which was multi storey originally but was now a normal car park) and leaving the ticket in the window of the car.  I then remember walking down a quaint looking street street and into a shop of some kind (I think it was a toy shop or possibly a music shop) with someone and still thinking to myself whether to take the job or not.  At this point I woke up.

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Hi! On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:19:19 -0800 "Demiurge" <phof_…@ispchannel.com> wrote: > Hi > I have to say My nightmares were always my favorite > since they would scare me more than any horror movie.

Ever thought of publishing them as movie scripts? I’m puzzled at your considering them "favorite". > And in some cases with my nightmares when the > division between dream and reality (or the illusion > thereof) is lost and you aren’t sure when you woke up.

This is also not rare with nightmares, together with a sudden awakening. Actually, you pass thought an intermediate state, when you are like awake but still believe in the "facts" the dream as they were real. Usually this lasts a few seconds. > — > Paul > Patron Saint of lost causes and Hopeless endeavours. > "Rainbow Knight" <kingM…@telware.it> wrote in message > news:%1Ow4.1290$A4.115061@c01read04.service.talkway.com…

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Hi again! On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:12:10 -0800 "Demiurge" <phof_…@ispchannel.com> wrote: > Hi > it is strange that I have never had a virus problem, > and so don’t know what they are like. I generally follow > all the safety protocalls for cruising on the net.

You do well, BTW. >  I kinda think maybe it is a reference into my life. > About my fears for the future and if I will fail in > classes again this quarter. I refuse to give in to my > fears so I believe (when I rarely dream) that it is me > giving myself response to my life and fears. I have had > worse nightmares though.

Your interpretation could be the right one. Fear has taken the shape of a virus in this case. As to dream, you always dream. This is physiological, we all do when sleeping. It is the normal activity of our brains. Only you forget most of what you dream, which is again normal. > — > Paul > Patron Saint of lost causes and Hopeless endeavours.

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Hi I have to say My nightmares were always my favorite since they would scare me more than any horror movie. And in some cases with my nightmares when the division between dream and reality(or the illusion thereof) is lost and you aren’t sure when you woke up. — Paul Patron Saint of lost causes and Hopeless endeavours. "Rainbow Knight" <kingM…@telware.it> wrote in message

news:%1Ow4.1290$A4.115061@c01read04.service.talkway.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi again! > On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:12:10 -0800 "Demiurge" <phof_…@ispchannel.com> > wrote: > > Hi > > it is strange that I have never had a virus problem, > > and so don’t know what they are like. I generally follow > > all the safety protocalls for cruising on the net. > You do well, BTW. > >  I kinda think maybe it is a reference into my life. > > About my fears for the future and if I will fail in > > classes again this quarter. I refuse to give in to my > > fears so I believe (when I rarely dream) that it is me > > giving myself response to my life and fears. I have had > > worse nightmares though. > Your interpretation could be the right one. Fear has > taken the shape of a virus in this case. > As to dream, you always dream. This is physiological, > we all do when sleeping. It is the normal activity of > our brains. Only you forget most of what you dream, > which is again normal. > > — > > Paul > > Patron Saint of lost causes and Hopeless endeavours. > Best wishes > Rafwolf > Remove MAPS from the address to reply. >                 *** Homepage *** > <http://www.angelfire.com/mi/raffaele55/> >                 *** ASL RAF FAQ *** > <http://www.angelfire.com/mi/raffaele55/aslfaq.html> > — > Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums > Talkway – http://www.talkway.com – Talk more ways (sm)

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Hi it is strange that I have never had a virus problem, and so don’t know what they are like. I generally follow all the safety protocalls for cruising on the net.      I kinda think maybe it is a reference into my life. About my fears for the future and if I will fail in classes again this quarter. I refuse to give in to my fears so I believe (when I rarely dream)that it is me giving myself response to my life and fears. I have had worse nightmares though. — Paul Patron Saint of lost causes and Hopeless endeavours. "Rainbow Knight" <kingM…@telware.it> wrote in message

news:4xCw4.1047$A4.112481@c01read04.service.talkway.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Paul! > Your dream looks like a description I’ve heard of > the "worm" Happy99.exe. They told me that it made > appear as everything was cancelled, but in fact > it wasn’t. The "smiley" face didn’t appear, but > were the programs icon. > Whatever, a point with the interpretation of dreams > is that without knowing you there is little chance > to detect its meaning. (Nor that one can detect it > in any case, but there are more odds to say something > significant). > An obvious guess is that your dream concerns a > dilemma about giving confidence to a stranger: > you’ve downloaded a file from an unknown source > and got a bad surprise. So possibly your mind > is busy with the issue of opening to communication > and to the concerned risks. The smiley may be a > symbol for hypocrisy. > HTHBDTS (Hope This Helps But Don’t Think So) > Raffreud > On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 03:56:43 -0800 "Demiurge" <phof_…@ispchannel.com> > wrote: > > Oh I had a dream. > > It was cool I was surfing the web and I saw something interesting to = > > download I proceded and downloaded it and what do you know+ACE- It = > > automatically started opening the files unzipping itself and starting = > > itself. Next thing I know I see a window open up with a bunch of torn = > > files being put into the garbage can. finally all damaged files are = > > dropped into the garbage can and my monitor displays a smiley face. Then = > > my monitor goes blank+ACE- I think to my self +ACI-Oh sh+ACo-t I = > > downloaded a virus+ACEAIg-=20 > > Weird dream. > > I wonder what it means? > > –=20 > > Paul=20 > > Patron Saint of lost causes and Hopeless endeavours.  =20 > Remove MAPS from the address to reply. >                 *** Homepage *** > <http://www.angelfire.com/mi/raffaele55/> >                 *** ASL RAF FAQ *** > <http://www.angelfire.com/mi/raffaele55/aslfaq.html> > — > Free audio & video emails, greeting cards and forums > Talkway – http://www.talkway.com – Talk more ways (sm)

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Oh I had a dream. It was cool I was surfing the web and I saw something interesting to download I proceded and downloaded it and what do you know! It automatically started opening the files unzipping itself and starting itself. Next thing I know I see a window open up with a bunch of torn files being put into the garbage can. finally all damaged files are dropped into the garbage can and my monitor displays a smiley face. Then my monitor goes blank! I think to my self "Oh sh*t I downloaded a virus!" Weird dream. I wonder what it means? — Paul Patron Saint of lost causes and Hopeless endeavours.  

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Hi Paul! Your dream looks like a description I’ve heard of the "worm" Happy99.exe. They told me that it made appear as everything was cancelled, but in fact it wasn’t. The "smiley" face didn’t appear, but were the programs icon. Whatever, a point with the interpretation of dreams is that without knowing you there is little chance to detect its meaning. (Nor that one can detect it in any case, but there are more odds to say something significant). An obvious guess is that your dream concerns a dilemma about giving confidence to a stranger: you’ve downloaded a file from an unknown source and got a bad surprise. So possibly your mind is busy with the issue of opening to communication and to the concerned risks. The smiley may be a symbol for hypocrisy. HTHBDTS (Hope This Helps But Don’t Think So) Raffreud On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 03:56:43 -0800 "Demiurge" <phof_…@ispchannel.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Oh I had a dream. > It was cool I was surfing the web and I saw something interesting to = > download I proceded and downloaded it and what do you know+ACE- It = > automatically started opening the files unzipping itself and starting = > itself. Next thing I know I see a window open up with a bunch of torn = > files being put into the garbage can. finally all damaged files are = > dropped into the garbage can and my monitor displays a smiley face. Then = > my monitor goes blank+ACE- I think to my self +ACI-Oh sh+ACo-t I = > downloaded a virus+ACEAIg-=20 > Weird dream. > I wonder what it means? > –=20 > Paul=20 > Patron Saint of lost causes and Hopeless endeavours.  =20

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pss.. Ollie.. virtual reality and simulation will never replace what is real.. just a thought .. Pamela "Nothing Face" <ol…@sandcastle.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message

news:847vcp$a67$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If the simulation had a high fidelity, it should not matter what was real > and what not. > All existence is just information being run through a virtual machine. > OTS > The Beast wrote in message <38660…@news.iglou.com>… > >I > >woke up > >one morning > >and > >you were laying > >in bed > >beside me. > >We > >laughed and > >played all day > >and shared > >a nice > >romantic > >candlelight dinner > >beside the fireplace. > >We > >made love > >all night long > >and afterwhich > >we held eachother > >as lovers do > >without a care in the world > >But…. > >I woke up > >alone > >and realized that > >it was merely > >a dream.

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I woke up one morning and you were laying in bed beside me. We laughed and played all day and shared a nice romantic candlelight dinner beside the fireplace. We made love all night long and afterwhich we held eachother as lovers do without a care in the world But…. I woke up alone and realized that it was merely a dream.

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    Sigh, been there Beast, thanx for sharing Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The Beast wrote: > I > woke up > one morning > and > you were laying > in bed > beside me. > We > laughed and > played all day > and shared > a nice > romantic > candlelight dinner > beside the fireplace. > We > made love > all night long > and afterwhich > we held eachother > as lovers do > without a care in the world > But…. > I woke up > alone > and realized that > it was merely > a dream.

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We gotta have dreams, it’s a better place with them, living without dreams would be so boring and mundane. Harvey In article <38660…@news.iglou.com>, thebe…@iglou.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I >woke up >one morning >and >you were laying >in bed >beside me. >We >laughed and >played all day >and shared >a nice >romantic >candlelight dinner >beside the fireplace. >We >made love >all night long >and afterwhich >we held eachother >as lovers do >without a care in the world >But…. >I woke up >alone >and realized that >it was merely >a dream.

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I’m crying for you and for me.  I hope that it will be more than a dream for you someday soon. The Beast <thebe…@iglou.com> wrote in message

news:38660e16@news.iglou.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I > woke up > one morning > and > you were laying > in bed > beside me. > We > laughed and > played all day > and shared > a nice > romantic > candlelight dinner > beside the fireplace. > We > made love > all night long > and afterwhich > we held eachother > as lovers do > without a care in the world > But…. > I woke up > alone > and realized that > it was merely > a dream.

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If the simulation had a high fidelity, it should not matter what was real and what not. All existence is just information being run through a virtual machine. OTS – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The Beast wrote in message <38660…@news.iglou.com>… >I >woke up >one morning >and >you were laying >in bed >beside me. >We >laughed and >played all day >and shared >a nice >romantic >candlelight dinner >beside the fireplace. >We >made love >all night long >and afterwhich >we held eachother >as lovers do >without a care in the world >But…. >I woke up >alone >and realized that >it was merely >a dream.

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Deep Sigh… beautiful thought.. wondrous dreaming but ducking the onslaught of thought for my own sanity.. Thank you Gentle Beast for sharing.. Pamela "The Beast" <thebe…@iglou.com> wrote in message

news:38660e16@news.iglou.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I > woke up > one morning > and > you were laying > in bed > beside me. > We > laughed and > played all day > and shared > a nice > romantic > candlelight dinner > beside the fireplace. > We > made love > all night long > and afterwhich > we held eachother > as lovers do > without a care in the world > But…. > I woke up > alone > and realized that > it was merely > a dream.

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alt.comp.software.financial.quicken — Gina M. Dent BookSmart St. Louis, MO – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello folks; I am wondering what the appropriate newsgroup for discussing Quicken (intuit’s personal accounting software) issues would be? This one? I am wondering if Quicken 4 is Y2000 safe / compliant… — address.

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And, no.  Quicken 99 is, I believe, the only Y2K compliant version.  (Possibly 98, too)  And, Intuit will not be doling out any patches.  Their answer is the standard — "Upgrade." — Gina M. Dent BookSmart St. Louis, MO – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello folks; I am wondering what the appropriate newsgroup for discussing Quicken (intuit’s personal accounting software) issues would be? This one? I am wondering if Quicken 4 is Y2000 safe / compliant… — address.

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I am wondering if Quicken 4 is Y2000 safe / compliant…

The official word is at: http://www.intuit.com/corporate/year2000/find_your_product.html Tim

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Hello folks; I am wondering what the appropriate newsgroup for discussing Quicken (intuit’s personal accounting software) issues would be? This one? I am wondering if Quicken 4 is Y2000 safe / compliant… —

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Hello folks; I am wondering what the appropriate newsgroup for discussing Quicken (intuit’s personal accounting software) issues would be? This one?

Sure, this one’s fine. Or you can try;  alt.comp.software.financial.quicken I can’t answer your question about whether it’s y2k compliant though. Rick

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I am trying to set up my company in Quickbooks 6.0, when I invoice the customers the income account and accounts receivable account are used, but when they pay these invoices sometimes I need to use different accounts to distribute them to eg: payable accounts.  Is there any answer to my dilemma about distributing these to more than just the income account. Thanks, Julie

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When you enter a Deposit, you can apply it to any account, the following are the basic instructions: Depositing payments: 1       From the Activities menu, choose Make Deposits. 2       If you have payments to deposit, click the ones you’d like to deposit now. 3       Click OK. Note: To return to the list of payments to deposit, click the Pmts. button. 4       In the Make Deposits window, select the account you’d like to deposit into. 5       Indicate whether you are getting cash back. If you spent some of your cash sales receipts during the day, follow the steps for getting cash back to enter the expenditures in QuickBooks. 6       (Optional) If you are depositing a payment made by credit card, you can enter the credit card fees as a negative amount and charge them to an expense account by listing the fees on a separate line in the Make Deposits window. 7       In the detail area of the Make Deposits window, enter any deposits that did not come from customer payments. 8       Click OK. If you have any more questions, just let me know. Thanks, Steve Bookkeeping 2000 Quick Books Professional Advisor Computer Consultant – Tax Prepare – Educator/Trainer – Accountant(Not CPA) – Bookkeeper(Current becoming Certified) http://pages.prodigy.net/bookkeeping 1200 East Huntington Drive – Suite 101 – Duarte, CA 91010 (626) 935-3375

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I am trying to set up my company in Quickbooks 6.0, when I invoice the customers the income account and accounts receivable account are used, but when they pay these invoices sometimes I need to use different accounts to distribute them to eg: payable accounts.  Is there any answer to my dilemma about distributing these to more than just the income account. Thanks, Julie

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> BTW- Sherry you would be very surprised about the many positive > outcomes I read about where SD is concerned.  They do outweigh the >negative.

No I wouldn’t be surprised at all and that fact overjoys me. But we must remember even those that are not affected seriously still have the illness and that fact alone brings changes to their lives and many times they seek support. Sometimes just the diagnosis sets you aside and you like to reconnect a bit by contacting others that are going through what you are or have already went through it. Plus just because their symptoms aren’t life threatening in no way means that they are any less important and bothersome to them. My most bothersome symptoms is actually my dry itchy skin and that is probably the less life threatening symptom I have. But it still is a problem and a nuisance for me and talking with others about it and hearing how they cope with it and what helps them really assists me in dealing with it in my life. The majority of communication online is really geared toward sharing, uplifting and inspiration. The medical material that is available is done so to merely make it available for them to read. They of course don’t take that as fact. They read it, investigate it and then speak with their own physicians about it. Nothing more is shared here that the patients couldn’t get their hands on in other areas so the risks involved with sharing it online are no more dangerous than the risks of it being printed in magazines, spoke about on television, discussed on radio, or printed in media articles. We all consume those things with caution so it is logical to say that everyone would read the material online with the same caution. This is merely common sense that most everyone has the ability to comprehend. — Love and Hugs From Sherry Messick Surviving Scleroderma http://www.SclerodermaSupport.com "Get Up, Stand Up and Fight to survive because Scleroderma Kicks you when you are down" "We are all Beacons Of Light for Each Other " Oprah Winfrey Tomorrow is promised to no one. Learn to say ‘I love you’…. Any way you can!          /       ____/_________       //////\\\    Have a Bewitching Halloween!!      ///  Q   Q \         ///     U    \    //     ___/    \

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Tiara82 wrote in message <19981015095719.27855.00001…@ng110.aol.com>… >     I have access to far more then I can post as my job is at risk but my >contacts are reliable and so are the medical databases that I work with.

Then, please cite sources.  It would be even more helpful if you can steer us to the source – online, library, whatever.

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> You’re the one who is >fixated on taking credit, not I. >Ronni

I have nothing to take credit for however there are many that lurk in this area and then make phonecalls.  I have been called repeatedly so as long as there is something that is unclear and I am questioned I will do my best to clarify it.     My concerns are more related to medical info but this came up with it.  Ms. Weick will recieve the recognition she deserves.  All the fancy websites do not raise any funds for research.  The chats are  inaccurate which you proved with the survival statistics taken from one.        I have access to far more then I can post as my job is at risk but my contacts are reliable and so are the medical databases that I work with.      We always come back to the same old treatments and the same unreliable statistrics. There are two confirmed deaths that I am aware of due to the stem cell transplants.  One is even posted in Sherry’s site.  "Relaxin" which we are told is our next biggest hope has some side effects that have not been made public. Maybe this  is why Sharon Monsky  who was the first to try it never went public.       Lung disease which is the biggest killer among SD patients is still beig treated with cytoxan by most doctors.  Where is the progress???????  Of course money is needed but so is clearer representation  

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X-NoArchive: Yes Tamara, I owe you no apologies or an accounting of my life.   As far as this going to Deja new…it’s o’k.  Why do you put my name on the top of a post which I did not write.  How clever of you.   The appropriate way to do this would have been just to Quote what I actually said.  It started with Applause. Stay out of everyones business and take care of your own.  You must have many medical records to go Through.  Next, address your sentiments to the real author of the text in which you were thrushed out of hiding and exposed.  I wish I could take credit for the work done and the well written post, but I can’t.  Sorry about that. Wendy (I hide from no one.  Same name , same me).

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tiara82 wrote: > > You’re the one who is fixated on taking credit, not I. > >Ronni > I have nothing to take credit for however there are many that lurk in this area > and then make phonecalls.  I have been called repeatedly so as long as there is > something that is unclear and I am questioned I will do my best to clarify it. >     My concerns are more related to medical info but this came up with it.  Ms. > Weick will recieve the recognition she deserves.  All the fancy websites do not > raise any funds for research.  The chats are  inaccurate which you proved with > the survival statistics taken from one. >      I have access to far more then I can post as my job is at risk but my > contacts are reliable and so are the medical databases that I work with. >      We always come back to the same old treatments and the same unreliable > statistrics. > There are two confirmed deaths that I am aware of due to the stem cell > transplants.  One is even posted in Sherry’s site.  "Relaxin" which we are told > is our next biggest hope has some side effects that have not been made public. > Maybe this  is why Sharon Monsky  who was the first to try it never went > public. >     Lung disease which is the biggest killer among SD patients is still beig > treated with cytoxan by most doctors.  Where is the progress???????  Of course > money is needed but so is clearer representation

Regarding your history on this newsgroup, you have no credibility, none, zilch, zero. Regarding your comments on drugs (other than your personal experiences), speaking for others is not acceptable. When giving information, e.g., dates, venues, attendees (and others’ alleged opinions), unless I were to hear it directly from the persons involved, e.g., Amy Burkett, Executive Director, SF Tri-State, it goes in one ear and out the other. Regarding your disdain for medical information offered by experienced patients, you should dig deep and provide articles and documentation to disprove what you read, or shut the hell up. If you dislike Sherry’s site or Teresa Testerman’s work, amongst the many others, get off your sorry backside and build your own. When you write of scleroderma patients being denied transplants with your doctor’s alleged (and callous) explanation that organs are wasted, put your money/time where your mouth is and do your research. And then post (along with links) so we can see where you’ve been and come to our own conclusions. Since you are not a doctor, nurse, lawyer, keep your nose out of others’ business and keep your amateur opinions to yourself. A PDR does not make you professional. You feel you have some ‘right’ to express alleged opinions from doctors and foundation members. Let them come online and speak for themselves. And shut your yap. And when you want newcomers to this group to read about how ‘important’ you are, wanting them to doubt the wisdom of support, there are enough pillars in this newsgroup community to expose you for the fool you truly are. When you so vehemently speak of others impersonating you, come up with the same unedited proof that I have seen where you have entered chat rooms impersonating Sherry. You are ignorant, a manipulator, a disrupter, a troublemaker and a harasser, as evidenced by the fact you were on probation for 2 years for mail fraud. As well, you used someone else’s Queens address to attempt to resubscribe to the digest on 8 July 1997 — and your subscription was denied based on your past threatening behavior. As you have said so many times before here, "I will not post to the group…" so go on then, get out. It’s obvious you don’t want to be here, the feeling is mutual — and you have nothing credible to offer now or in the future. I am addressing this post to all 62 screen names you have used, which include other people’s accounts from which you have signed on with, please pass the prunes: AOL:    User115827, Tiara82, Mia43, MiaFia40, Bluizcryn1, ToujoursOO,         JoyyH, Jayy96, JessMarie7, NYCornell7, Mia45, Sharyn27,         SharonG27, chaiya18, JonellH, Ld155, MSSDNY, MSMSSDNY, ME3656         CabalAgnt4 (not to be confused with the real Cabal Agent #1)         Mi…@aol.com, Mia53, Mia60, Mia62, Mia80, File00, SherryM,         Sher96, KaroleM36, NewDawn96, Miashadenuf, JonnellG,         Mia327, Mia404, Mia7650386, Mia207, Mia091, File27, Swann59,         Sue306, Life80, Cellis1940, Copyright43, Itbme46, Miriam,         JonellG, Annoyed43, Chiclets82, Mia906 Replay.com: Anon, nobody, BoredStiff, SoLongBuddy, WannaBePrez             YouAreBo…@YourProblem.com Sprintmail: Jane45, Jane27, Sharon27, SharonG27, Mia45, SFPrez

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Tamara, Am I to understand your statement correctly? Did you say that you read other patient’s charts? You have access to these? And you sit there and read into other patients personal charts? Maybe I misread what you said but if that is what you said I don’t think that is right. That isn’t fair to the patients to have a total stranger unrelated to their treatment snooping into their medical records. I hope I misunderstood because that would be wrong of the hospital to allow it also. — Love and Hugs From Sherry Messick Surviving Scleroderma http://www.SclerodermaSupport.com "Get Up, Stand Up and Fight to survive because Scleroderma Kicks you when you are down" "We are all Beacons Of Light for Each Other " Oprah Winfrey Tomorrow is promised to no one. Learn to say ‘I love you’…. Any way you can!          /       ____/_________       //////\\\    Have a Bewitching Halloween!!      ///  Q   Q \         ///     U    \    //     ___/    \

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Sherry, I am a utilization review specialist.  My job requires reading charts in order to assure the DRG ratings are billed properly.  You were recently an "in patient".  When you get your statement you will notice that you were not billed as per a daily rate.  Your billing is decided apon by your diagnosis, the procedures performed.  Each insurance company allows a specific amount days for "acute level of care" which determines how many days they will pay for your hospital stay.  Then if that is not considered enough your doctor will make a recommendation and your record will be reviewed to either approve or disprove this request.  Utilization review departments are regulated by the government and are present in every hospital.  It has been the law for many years now that all charts be reviewed.  The review also includes checking to see if the patient’s chart was kept up to date by the doctor.  So whatever I read I am required to do so.  To make it clearer  DRG means discharge related grouping. Acute level of care is the time needed as an in patient in a medically run facility.  The next step is ALT which means alternate level of care which would be a transfer to a rehabilitation facility if needed.  My department decides these items,  based   on the chart reviews Considering that you are covered by Champus I am very surprised at your lack of knowledge of this.  They are one of the most difficult insurances to get an extra day out of since they are a government agency.  Especially if your husband is no longer active duty getting a bandaid from them is like pulling teeth You did not misunderstand me.  In fact many hospitals actually sell mailing lists to various companies.  None of this is against the law.  The only criteria that I have to maintain is never to give out any of the information that I have the ability to obtain.  That would be a breach of privacy and would cost me my job.  That is the reason that I rarely am able to name the sources of alot of the info I have.   All I need is the particular hospital name and access code, a patient’s name and a date of admission and I can have their chart pulled.  That is merely the requirements of my job.  I would never print a patient’s name or medical history.  That is why I will not refer anyone to any articles and or  research papers that I became aware of during a review.  I believe it would be a felony.  Even if another hospital requests info they have to send a written  request signed by the patient. Tamara      

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>Then, please cite sources.  It would be even more helpful if you can steer >us to the source – online, library, whatever.

Amie, What is found online is not up to date.  Much  of it from what I have recently seen  is rather misleading.      .  The newer info that I have had the ability to read is mainly from  patient’s charts.    You stated that you work in human resources so you can well understand that although I may read about some case histories to release where and who is just not possible.  I will say   that when the MTX study is complete for patients  like  myself it will offer a more difinitive way to choose  treatment.  My only fear is that this study will be tainted the same way almost all the others have been.   I have accessed some case histories that are what I feel more accurate then what I see online.  None of which have been put into print for public viewing.  The work I am doing makes them available to me.                         I do have my moments of insecurity about having SD but so much of it has just halted.  I am more afraid of my meds at this point in time. I wish I could point you to some articles but I have been dealing with actual case histories . My job requires the use of   certain portions.  However when I see a chart with a dx of SD I wind up reading as much as I can.  The curiosity is too much. Wishing you Good Health    Tamara

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> If you have no objections I would love to know if Dr. Wigley has any > trouble getting reimbursement.  He obviously is not an every day VA doctor.  I > don’t see how these insurance companies ever were able to gain the ability to > charge per illness not per day.  

John Hopkins has a billing department. Dr. Wigley is paid no matter what. The billing department is the one that hassles with the insurance company not the Rheumatology clinic. — Love and Hugs From Sherry Messick Surviving Scleroderma http://www.SclerodermaSupport.com "Get Up, Stand Up and Fight to survive because Scleroderma Kicks you when you are down" "We are all Beacons Of Light for Each Other " Oprah Winfrey Tomorrow is promised to no one. Learn to say ‘I love you’…. Any way you can!          /       ____/_________       //////\\\    Have a Bewitching Halloween!!      ///  Q   Q \         ///     U    \    //     ___/    \

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Dear Merri, Whatever you wish to speak to me about you can post it right here.  I will also be at Mt. Sinai on Sunday and hopefully you will be there too.  Being that you have had success with the antibiotic  protocol.  Also the bad experience with MTX you would have an enormous amount to share  at the end during the group discussions.        I am sorry but the only patients that I speak with are the ones that one of my doctors first screens then I am called by his/her office to see if I can handle the call.   Then I am given their number first.  My mail under this name is closed as the quality of what I had been receiving was unacceptable  and making a career out of contacting TOS is far too time consuming.  The time I spend here , and some will be happy will be shortened after this week.  I am adding some extra days to my work schedule.  However I have no intentions of leaving. Tamara

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Sherry, I have never dealt with Tri Care.  Is it both  out patient and inpatient?  I have a Champus case that I recently had dumped on my desk that has been around since 1995!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I wonder if the pt. could have had Tri-care and the billing was done incorrectly.  Is that also known as "Champusing out"  I am hearing that term more and more and it makes for even more confusion.  The Military and managed care have instead of saving money made billing a nightmare and created a much more expensive billing system. Regards Tamara  BTW- Sherry you would be very surprised about the many positive outcomes I read about where SD is concerned.  They do outweigh the negative. The  biggest problem is self treatment. This is the one area where there is much unnecessary extra sickness  and from time to time a death.  I recall  Kate Knance had started an explanation  of HMOs on her site.  I don’t know if it was ever completed but I do see from many of the posts recently how treatment is delayed and also incorrect.  SD patients shouod not have to be shuttled between three or four "specialists" just to finally see a rheumatologist.  Also if a rheuim were seen in a timely fashion it could eliminate the use of biopsy procedures for many.  SD can be dx’d clinically by a good rheum.  A biopsy can infect and take well over a year to heal at the onset.

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Tri-care is similar to an HMO. It is for inpatient and outpatient. It is merely an insurance plan you enter. Being retired or active duty shouldn’t make any difference when you are on Tri-care. They treat you according to what plan you have purchased and subscribed to. The fees are different for retirees and active duties members but otherwise the care is the same. The transition period for the changeover from champus to tri-care is a bit tangled for those of us with pre existing illnesses but our region has only changed over in the last few months. My understanding is that all regions now only use Tricare Not Champus. Champus doesn’t even exist anylonger. There is a Tri-care standard that is now the equivilent of the old Champus benefits. If you try to imput something to champus you will be brought aware of Tri-care very quickly. When you make the entries you will be notified I am sure. All champus beneficiaries would have now been notified of the change. After a certain date if they didn’t enroll in Tri-care they wouldn’t have medical coverage. I know in our area we were given a date that we had to have enrolled by or I would have had no medical coverage. Anyway that is the info on Tri-care. I am not certain that all regions have made the changeover but I am sure that the north east region has. The champus webpage has now changed over to Tri-care so I would assume the transition is finished at least on the changing over part of it. — Love and Hugs From Sherry Messick Surviving Scleroderma http://www.SclerodermaSupport.com "Get Up, Stand Up and Fight to survive because Scleroderma Kicks you when you are down" "We are all Beacons Of Light for Each Other " Oprah Winfrey Tomorrow is promised to no one. Learn to say ‘I love you’…. Any way you can!          /       ____/_________       //////\\\    Have a Bewitching Halloween!!      ///  Q   Q \         ///     U    \    //     ___/    \

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Well true you doing your job isn’t against the law but if someone (not that you would do this) was to use her access abilities to get personal information (Such as SS numbers) than that would be illegal. You said it could be easily done by having simple basic information such as the hospital name that the person is being treated by, the hospital access code and basic patient info such as name. I don’t know what hospital you work at and I hope they do have security measures to protect against this happening. — Love and Hugs From Sherry Messick Surviving Scleroderma http://www.SclerodermaSupport.com "Get Up, Stand Up and Fight to survive because Scleroderma Kicks you when you are down" "We are all Beacons Of Light for Each Other " Oprah Winfrey Tomorrow is promised to no one. Learn to say ‘I love you’…. Any way you can!          /       ____/_________       //////\\\    Have a Bewitching Halloween!!      ///  Q   Q \         ///     U    \    //     ___/    \

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Hi Tamara: It must be frightening to read things in others charts and then relate it to yourself.  I myself read a lot not necesarily on line but from medical books and most of the stuff I read I don’t relate it to myself,I just read it.for information. The things on-line too I just take what I find useful and then ask my Drs. about it.  If it weren’t for reading I wouldn’t have found out about cytoxan and I wouldn’t be in the stable condition I am in. My Drs. say I read too much.That is because I ask them to explain what I have read. I take reading breaks but always go back.Lets face it reading about SD is important to me.Someone might just say something I need. To share information and not mention the source that can be researched is to give no information at all. I think most of us just want the same thing, to be as well as we can be, for as long as possible. Thank you all for having this outlet for me to express my opinions. It really helps.   Gigi  

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><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: New York Events >From: gramos3…@aol.com (GRamos3414) >Date: Thu, Oct 15, 1998 17:35 EDT >Message-id: <19981015173526.02584.00001…@ng01.aol.com> >Hi Tamara: >It must be frightening to read things in others charts and then relate it to >yourself. > I myself read a lot not necesarily on line but from medical books

Dear Gigi, I honestly find that by reading a chart I learn the most.  I am careful about what I read.  I try to read charts that belong to patients who are treated by reputable doctors and often my own. Most of the time I find the information reassuring.  Even the medical library in a teaching hospital can have out of date info.  Right now I am learning about the drugs evista and fosamax.  All I have researched has turned out to be exactly what my doctors have told me. This type of thing helps to reinforce my faith in my medical team.  Of course I have gotten myself into " trouble" while reading some charts.  .  My supervisor knows me already and it has turned in to a bit of a joke when I start to corner the rheum. residents.  All joking aside if we do not question absolutely everything we are cheating ourselves.  That is how I look at it.  Just as your research led you to cytoxan.  I am now ,researching the meds I mentioned as the PDR is not necessarily the last word.  I prefer to see actual patient histories and have been lucky to be able to do so. Be Well   Tamara

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Sherry, Thank you for the info.  All the billing is done "tape to tape" which merely means from one  PC to another.  I don’t do that part.  I get the charts  after admission or if there is a change in status while a patient is still on an acute level but due to be discharged according to what the insurance co. says. It is a mess.  Champus has always delayed payment I wonder if our billing dept.  is aware of the change over.  It may not make a difference as the government is still the payer.     If you have no objections I would love to know if Dr. Wigley has any trouble getting reimbursement.  He obviously is not an every day VA doctor.  I don’t see how these insurance companies ever were able to gain the ability to charge per illness not per day.   I know you had asked if there were any safety measures to protect a patients privacy.  I don’t know if I answered but the answer is basically no.  It is in the hands of the person doing the work and their own ethics. .  On the other hand hospitals legally sell names, addresses and telephone numbers to companies for the sole purpose of being used for solicitation.  I don’t know where the law begins and personal ethics takeover. Many times I will get a call from a person stating that they were from another hospital and knew that we had a patient in common and they will request info.  We first ask for a medical release signed by the patient.  It is not a legal requirement as long as the person can prove by means of a provider code where they are from.  I feel that this is a very loose way to do this.  My hospital asks for the signed release. Regards  Tamara

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->There has been alot of talk about who does >what and credit being taken away from the people who organize these"NY Gala >Events".  Ronni was thanked for the work she is putting into this event.  In >reality.  her part of the foundation has nothing to do with it.  This event >is >being sponsored by a single individual form the Long Island Branch of the >Tri-State chapter. >    The Long Island division has always worked alone and will continue to do >so. >      Ronni I am surprised that you did not personally make this >announcement. >I hope it just slipped by you. Anyhow it will be announced on Sunday.  Very >little that happens in New York is the result of the Boston or Calif. >offices. >Even the New Jersey office is not always involved.  The Long Islaned branch >has >always had the help of Dr. Harry Spiera and he never goes online and,the >event >honoring Dr.Melone is being run by only one person and that is Joanie Weick. >She has been working for scleroderma research for fourteen years and does not >feel a need to pomote herself.  However this time I personally want it to be >known.  There has been mass confusion that even included our Pittsgutgh >guests. > .  Dr. Medsger is coming here independent of the foundation but to complete >some work with Dr. Spiera.  A three hour seminar would not be sufficient to >bring Dr. Medsger to NY. There is much going on in the research community >that >is kept quiet.  You will ask how I know this.  I asked and was told.  It >seemed >rather strange to me from what I know of Dr. Medsger for him to clear his >patient schedule for just this event. I wonder if his assistant is coming >along.  I highly doubt that he would close the clinic.  It is run seven days >a >week. >Tamara

For the last time, Sherry and I were referring to the two large fundraisers in NYC (May 1998, and April 1997).  I have no involvement whatsoever in the Long Island events you keep talking about or the educational seminar being held this weekend, with Drs. Spiera and Medsger, at Mt. Sinai.  You’re the one who is fixated on taking credit, not I. Ronni

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>I have nothing to take credit for however there are many that lurk in this >area >and then make phonecalls.  I have been called repeatedly so as long as there >is >something that is unclear and I am questioned I will do my best to clarify >it.

Hi Tiara82,    I would like to call you what is you number ?  Please feel free to e-mail it to me . I have many questions for you Thank you,          soc…@aol.com

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Actually Champus isn’t widely used any longer for military. The majority of regions have now switched to Tri-Care. I think you just gave us clear explanations for many things we have been wondering about. Thanks — Love and Hugs From Sherry Messick Surviving Scleroderma http://www.SclerodermaSupport.com "Get Up, Stand Up and Fight to survive because Scleroderma Kicks you when you are down" "We are all Beacons Of Light for Each Other " Oprah Winfrey Tomorrow is promised to no one. Learn to say ‘I love you’…. Any way you can!          /       ____/_________       //////\\\    Have a Bewitching Halloween!!      ///  Q   Q \         ///     U    \    //     ___/    \

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> I know you had asked if there were any safety measures to protect a patients > privacy.  I don’t know if I answered but the answer is basically no.  It is in > the hands of the person doing the work and their own ethics.

yea that is what concerns me actually. — Love and Hugs From Sherry Messick Surviving Scleroderma http://www.SclerodermaSupport.com "Get Up, Stand Up and Fight to survive because Scleroderma Kicks you when you are down" "We are all Beacons Of Light for Each Other " Oprah Winfrey Tomorrow is promised to no one. Learn to say ‘I love you’…. Any way you can!          /       ____/_________       //////\\\    Have a Bewitching Halloween!!      ///  Q   Q \         ///     U    \    //     ___/    \

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Sherry, What may seem like common sense to us is not always viewed that way by many patients.  I have seen the results of patients, and not just SD patients who have no insurance or money and treat themselves.  They base it on any media device as you said.  It is not limited to the computer.  It is an all around problem.  I just happen to see the end results of medical mismanagement all to often.

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Tiara82 wrote in message <19981016124942.25148.00001…@ng03.aol.com>…

<snip> I think you just demonstrated what kind of person you are. First, by falsely attributing one post to another person, then revealing not only a person’s medical history online, but details of their personal life, including their insurance provider. Slightly illegal, totally unethical. I will be considering informing your employers that you are using your position to fulfill your personal agenda, and request that an investigation into your actions be undertaken. good day. —– Cabal Agent #1 Eric Keman- The world’s first Artificial Stupidity program?

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Wendy, I think the following deserved a full reprint and will appear in "Deja news" for all to view.  It seems that whether it is me or anyone else if a different idea is presented here or in another scleroderma site immediate fear sets in.   responding posts instead of being contradictory  are WELCOME  but the outcry has been  nasty and backed up with childish games. Name calling and the use of filthy language only degrade the user.   You can say what you wish about me and you and the other two or,three must have all day every day to do so.  Either scleroderma has made you so ill that this is all you have in life ( I sincerely hope this is not the case )  or you are so terrified by the fact that a new approach is suggested that you spend all your time on me.  You say you are "retired". Well why don’t you take the time you spend attempting to remove my credibility and do some volunteer work.  If you notice the time of day I post it will become obvious that I am up early and on my way to work and school. Scleroderma is chroninc but in almost every case will allow us to meet our potential and continue with our lives.  Anger and fear will steal that away, not the illness.  I hope you have not succumbed.  Try to rethink the time that you spend on me and redirect it to help do a fundraiser for Scleroderma Research in your area.  If that is too demanding, and it is a very demanding undertaking at least spend the time and ability you have to write and do an article on scleroderma. send it to your local news paper to promote awareness. Sincerely Tamara. THE FOLLOWING WAS REPRINTED BY "WENDY"  AKA  "PHOENIX 40" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: New York Events >From: phoeni…@aol.com (Phoenix40) >Date: Fri, Oct 16, 1998 00:31 EDT >Message-id: <19981016003119.14619.00000…@ng121.aol.com> >X-No-Archive: Yes >>Regarding your history on this newsgroup, you have no credibility, none, >>zilch, zero. >>Regarding your comments on drugs (other than your personal experiences), >>speaking for others is not acceptable. >>When giving information, e.g., dates, venues, attendees (and others’ >>alleged opinions), unless I were to hear it directly from the persons >>involved, e.g., Amy Burkett, Executive Director, SF Tri-State, it goes >>in one ear and out the other. >>Regarding your disdain for medical information offered by experienced >>patients, you should dig deep and provide articles and documentation to >>disprove what you read, or shut the hell up. >>If you dislike Sherry’s site or Teresa Testerman’s work, amongst the >>many others, get off your sorry backside and build your own. >>When you write of scleroderma patients being denied transplants with >>your doctor’s alleged (and callous) explanation that organs are wasted, >>put your money/time where your mouth is and do your research. And then >>post (along with links) so we can see where you’ve been and come to our >>own conclusions. >>Since you are not a doctor, nurse, lawyer, keep your nose out of others’ >>business and keep your amateur opinions to yourself. A PDR does not make >>you professional. >>You feel you have some ‘right’ to express alleged opinions from doctors >>and foundation members. Let them come online and speak for themselves. >>And shut your yap. >>And when you want newcomers to this group to read about how ‘important’ >>you are, wanting them to doubt the wisdom of support, there are enough >>pillars in this newsgroup community to expose you for the fool you truly >>are. >>When you so vehemently speak of others impersonating you, come up with >>the same unedited proof that I have seen where you have entered chat >>rooms impersonating Sherry. >>You are ignorant, a manipulator, a disrupter, a troublemaker and a >>harasser, as evidenced by the fact you were on probation for 2 years for >>mail fraud. As well, you used someone else’s Queens address to attempt >>to resubscribe to the digest on 8 July 1997 — and your subscription was >>denied based on your past threatening behavior. >>As you have said so many times before here, "I will not post to the >>group…" so go on then, get out. It’s obvious you don’t want to be >>here, the feeling is mutual — and you have nothing credible to offer >>now or in the future. >>I am addressing this post to all 62 screen names you have used, which >>include other people’s accounts from which you have signed on with, >>please pass the prunes: >>AOL:    User115827, Tiara82, Mia43, MiaFia40, Bluizcryn1, ToujoursOO, >>        JoyyH, Jayy96, JessMarie7, NYCornell7, Mia45, Sharyn27, >>        SharonG27, chaiya18, JonellH, Ld155, MSSDNY, MSMSSDNY, ME3656 >>        CabalAgnt4 (not to be confused with the real Cabal Agent #1) >>        Mi…@aol.com, Mia53, Mia60, Mia62, Mia80, File00, SherryM, >>        Sher96, KaroleM36, NewDawn96, Miashadenuf, JonnellG, >>        Mia327, Mia404, Mia7650386, Mia207, Mia091, File27, Swann59, >>        Sue306, Life80, Cellis1940, Copyright43, Itbme46, Miriam, >>        JonellG, Annoyed43, Chiclets82, Mia906 >>Replay.com: Anon, nobody, BoredStiff, SoLongBuddy, WannaBePrez >>            YouAreBo…@YourProblem.com >>Sprintmail: Jane45, Jane27, Sharon27, SharonG27, Mia45, SFPrez >I see the APPLAUSE SIGN is on and blinking, and I hear the clapping from the >crowded room. >Well done and well said SirLaffs. >Take your bow and there is an encore.  More applause. ></PRE></HTML>

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There is a fundraiser coming up shortly honoring Dr. Melone the hand surgeon. I spoke to the coordinator last night and since she does not have a PC I offered to set the record straight.  There has been alot of talk about who does what and credit being taken away from the people who organize these"NY Gala Events".  Ronni was thanked for the work she is putting into this event.  In reality.  her part of the foundation has nothing to do with it.  This event is being sponsored by a single individual form the Long Island Branch of the Tri-State chapter.     The Long Island division has always worked alone and will continue to do so.       Ronni I am surprised that you did not personally make this announcement. I hope it just slipped by you. Anyhow it will be announced on Sunday.  Very little that happens in New York is the result of the Boston or Calif. offices. Even the New Jersey office is not always involved.  The Long Islaned branch has always had the help of Dr. Harry Spiera and he never goes online and,the event honoring Dr.Melone is being run by only one person and that is Joanie Weick. She has been working for scleroderma research for fourteen years and does not feel a need to pomote herself.  However this time I personally want it to be known.  There has been mass confusion that even included our Pittsgutgh guests.  .  Dr. Medsger is coming here independent of the foundation but to complete some work with Dr. Spiera.  A three hour seminar would not be sufficient to bring Dr. Medsger to NY. There is much going on in the research community that is kept quiet.  You will ask how I know this.  I asked and was told.  It seemed rather strange to me from what I know of Dr. Medsger for him to clear his patient schedule for just this event. I wonder if his assistant is coming along.  I highly doubt that he would close the clinic.  It is run seven days a week. Tamara

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> On the other > hand hospitals legally sell names, addresses and telephone numbers to companies > for the sole purpose of being used for solicitation.  I don’t know where the > law begins and personal ethics takeover. Many times I will get a call from a > person stating that they were from another hospital and knew that we had a > patient in common and they will request info.  We first ask for a medical > release signed by the patient.  It is not a legal requirement as long as the > person can prove by means of a provider code where they are from.  I feel that > this is a very loose way to do this.  My hospital asks for the signed release.

Yes but if the person working in records obtain this information and use it for their own agenda such as posting it publically then the patient has a legal issue they could take up. As you said the ethics of the person is required to be without tarnish. Unfortunately that isn’t always the case and these people should be investigated if there is a reason brought to their supervisors attention. — Love and Hugs From Sherry Messick Surviving Scleroderma http://www.SclerodermaSupport.com "Get Up, Stand Up and Fight to survive because Scleroderma Kicks you when you are down" "We are all Beacons Of Light for Each Other " Oprah Winfrey Tomorrow is promised to no one. Learn to say ‘I love you’…. Any way you can!          /       ____/_________       //////\\\    Have a Bewitching Halloween!!      ///  Q   Q \         ///     U    \    //     ___/    \

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One reason a man would want to minimize his payments is because no accounting of how the money is spent is required. A lot of child support goes to buy houses in which the child has no ownership interest  and new cars for Mommy and her new hubby.If you pay the minimum support you can then spend the money directly on the kids. Trickle down child support is very inefficient. For information about how to minimize support legally check out http//www.fathers-rights.com     Mothers..If you want more support try giving more visitation and involvement, it will pay dividends.

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Maybe the non-custodial parents should have read the directions on the condom package before they created their kids. That would have saved time and money too. peace. . .adrienne — adrienne fetrow                           "The groove is crucial."

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I agree totally, When some dad, can not pay his spouse, money to help her raise the children, What a F**king lame ass SOB. I will try to refrain from cussing, but that kind of shit pisses me off! These men think that by paying there wives this money, the wife is gonna run around town whoring around, and taking luxury cruise lines.. when in all honestly, most do not have the time for it, I know my fiancee did not have the time and sometimes still does not have the time to do all those things with me, which is fine. Like her ex refuses to pay child support sometimes, figuring that the money is going to me or something ( can someone say LOSER). Not to mention he haggled his way to lower his child support, and now he is trying to haggle even more of his child support payments!! God o mighty, there is only so much one women can do with kids, and these dead beat dads don’t pay a dime to them to help them raise not "her" kids, but "there" kids, because that is what they are, they are him and her’s kids, not just one parent, just because you get a divorce does not mean that you can wipe your hands clean of your children or of there finaces that it cost to raise them. I mean the mom gets to buy all there school stuff and cloths, while the dad gets away blind by not helping to pay for none of that, and instead runs up the country side to go camping with his new Whore of a girlfriend, and even though he takes the kids, he does not give them spending money, so the ex wife has to dig into her money and give it to them, those kind of dads i want to take a Towel with a 8-ball in it and whack them upside there heads and knock some sense into them and maybe Say to them " If you can not take care of your children , then don’t do anything at all with them, because you sure as shit did not earn to talk to them" and walk away. If anyone on this board is someone who does not want to pay child support to help raise there kids, I pity you, because it will all reflect on you later, when your children find out about it, or they may know already, and later on, when they can better understand what you are or were doing, you will understand why they will not want to help you or talk to you. because you need to remember, ( jokingly) that those kids will be picking your nursing home when you get older, I wonder what they do to you, or what kinda home they will place you in. Nick

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Gang,, I’m new to QuickBooks 5.0. I’m trying to add a field in invoice which does list of quantity. I’m trying to get my print out looks like this Item#  Description  List Quan  List# Quantity    UnitPrice Price 100    Chicken      10,20,30   3     60          10.00     600.00 Means quantity is generated when 10+20+30 is entered. If there are alternative, will be appreciated. According to custom invoice template, extra field can not be calculated..?? What kind of restriction is this….. Second problem is ,,, Is there are way to do inventory storage 1, 2, 3, etc. on daily base. Means create one storage for one day and end of day do automatic inventory related to some invoice.. My problem is I have several trucks, who stacked every morning with variety of items and end of day, I have to inventory them individually….. Truth is in you Brutus

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Brutus, All of the custom fields are text fields.  Numerals entered in them are not recognized as numbers.  QuickBooks has no options in this regard. When you ship an inventory item on an invoice, that item is removed from inventory.  The cost of the item, on an average cost basis, is added to Cost of Goods Sold.  The inventory system can print out a physical inventory list. Beyond that, I don’t really understand your question. Harry Pottol  Better book on QuickBooks

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brutus, All of the custom fields are text fields.  Numerals entered in them are not recognized as numbers.  QuickBooks has no options in this regard. When you ship an inventory item on an invoice, that item is removed from inventory.  The cost of the item, on an average cost basis, is added to Cost of Goods Sold.  The inventory system can print out a physical inventory list. Beyond that, I don’t really understand your question. Harry Pottol  Better book on QuickBooks

Harry Pottol Thank you for your opinion.. Ok, Let me explain my situation. 1st Question is "why QuickBooks not allow to add numeric field in customize forms?" This restriction is blocking me to use QuickBooks in my business. My business selling chicken by weigh, and each packaged boxes has different weight. I’m trying to print in invoice that what are the weight of each boxes. You might say why don’t you listed as separated items. But it will be too many lines in invoice with same item "Chicken"……. For the 2nd question, I mis-explained in previous message. Every morning we stuffed each trucks with various items. for example, for route 1( who makes round trips for certain path like metro bus) we stuffed that bus with 100 boxes of chicken, 100 boxes of fishes, 100 boxes of onion etc… Loaded items has no relationship with invoice or customer order. And when trucks leave we distributed invoices to each drivers. End of day, I collect all the invoices by route and count how many items delivered and what are the left on each truck. My question was how to record this in QuickBooks by daily….. It seems very complex but otherwise, we have to stuffed truck with each invoice order and we decided that is too much work.. Brutus..

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Brutus, That’s the way it is.  Intuit is a publicly held company, and management has a fiduciary duty to operate the business for maximum profit.  One must assume that, in their judgement, adding custom numeric fields would not be profitable.  In other words, it would not sell enough additional copies to return the cost of developing it.  It might also be that it would slow the operation of the program. Intuit is extremely closed-mouthed, and we will not know the real reasons. The QuickBooks inventory system is designed only for very simple cases, such as gallons of fuel oil or bushels or barley, where all items of a unit are identical.  I can’t see a way to make it work in your situation.  Other people may be able to suggest a program (probably at higher cost) which will do it.  The only alternative I see is a spreadsheet program. Harry Pottol  Better book about QuickBooks

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QuickBooks is designed for simple inventory, so your complex inventory is not a good match. If QuickBooks meets all your other needs then you probably don’t want to abandon this inexpensive approach. Your complex inventory needs might be better met through a third-party pricing application that can track both complex items and customer relationships. You also have an interesting twist in the load-out of your delivery system – that may mean you need a custom application (these normally run a few thousand dollars if they start with an existing product). You probably also want something that can import the results into QuickBooks (e.g., Customer A’s QB invoice might read "Chicken-see attached sheet-$500", representing the combined results of all chicken, and an attached shipping document from the third party application that details the items) – so that narrows the field of choices somewhat. The closest thing to this I’ve seen is a product called MarketPoint from SolutionPoint ( http://www.solutionpoint.com  e-mail allows input of future pricing based on effective dates, manages customer contact variables (several contacts for one customer based on items), notifies customers of impending price changes (mail, fax or e-mail), allows you to on-the-fly add new items and pricing and packaging, plus a lot of other handy features. It doesn’t handle bar-codes (which it sounds like you need in tracking what goes on which truck) but I imagine something like that could be customized for you. They have good references and, in fact, my cousin is using a SolutionPoint product that interfaces with his QB for payroll, cost analysis and management reporting. It sounds like this is a problem that is costing you a fair amount of lost productivity, so that should be a good starting point to gauge of the value of any solution. If you are wasting $1,000 per month in everyone’s time and frustration – and your company’s ROI threshold is one year – then anything under $12K is a must have. I should think you can find a very good solution for that kind of money. A new custom application would probably cost more, but modification of an existing application should fit your needs and provide a good ROI. Good Luck! Terry Hastings Even high-end accounting packages – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brutus, All of the custom fields are text fields.  Numerals entered in them are not recognized as numbers.  QuickBooks has no options in this regard. When you ship an inventory item on an invoice, that item is removed from inventory.  The cost of the item, on an average cost basis, is added to Cost of Goods Sold.  The inventory system can print out a physical inventory list. Beyond that, I don’t really understand your question. Harry Pottol  Better book on QuickBooks Harry Pottol Thank you for your opinion.. Ok, Let me explain my situation. 1st Question is "why QuickBooks not allow to add numeric field in customize forms?" This restriction is blocking me to use QuickBooks in my business. My business selling chicken by weigh, and each packaged boxes has different weight. I’m trying to print in invoice that what are the weight of each boxes. You might say why don’t you listed as separated items. But it will be too many lines in invoice with same item "Chicken"……. For the 2nd question, I mis-explained in previous message. Every morning we stuffed each trucks with various items. for example, for route 1( who makes round trips for certain path like metro bus) we stuffed that bus with 100 boxes of chicken, 100 boxes of fishes, 100 boxes of onion etc… Loaded items has no relationship with invoice or customer order. And when trucks leave we distributed invoices to each drivers. End of day, I collect all the invoices by route and count how many items delivered and what are the left on each truck. My question was how to record this in QuickBooks by daily….. It seems very complex but otherwise, we have to stuffed truck with each invoice order and we decided that is too much work.. Brutus..

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