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If I was to obtain my CPA here in America, and work for a little while then move to either the UK or Australia would being a CPA carry any weight over there?  Would it be laterally transferrable, or would it just be recognition (if that)?  Is there a test similar in the UK or Australia to the CPA in America? Thank you, Geoffrey

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Would advise you visit http://www.icaew.co.uk/ http://www.cpaaustralia.com.au/cps/rde/xchg http://www.icaa.org.au/ and review the relevant section.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If I was to obtain my CPA here in America, and work for a little while then move to either the UK or Australia would being a CPA carry any weight over there?  Would it be laterally transferrable, or would it just be recognition (if that)?  Is there a test similar in the UK or Australia to the CPA in America? Thank you, Geoffrey

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I guess it depends what work you do. Clearly, the tax & corporate laws are different. Also, the accounting standards are different (Australia is moving to European standards on 1 Jan 2005). But then, I see the occasional advert for accountants who know a bit about American standards. You’re lucky that so many multinationals are domiciled in the US! Here are three good job search engines from Australia www.seek.com.au www.mycareer.com.au www.cajobs.com.au

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Recently met a CPA working for PwC. Shortage of accountants down under…maybe   it’s worth considering joining one of the big firms, get your CPA and ask for a secondment. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I guess it depends what work you do. Clearly, the tax & corporate laws are different. Also, the accounting standards are different (Australia is moving to European standards on 1 Jan 2005). But then, I see the occasional advert for accountants who know a bit about American standards. You’re lucky that so many multinationals are domiciled in the US! Here are three good job search engines from Australia www.seek.com.au www.mycareer.com.au www.cajobs.com.au

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Ah, Wex.  Computers hide such costly corruption. DCF, although not explicity mentioned in your article, was noticed by me for its very costly database construction. Others *splained* it to me. Course, the worm has turned now…so it seems. When will folks ever learn? Wex sent in about IT contracts and FRIENDS, no-bids, and cooking the books. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Subject: Tech contract Taxpayers on hook for reckless spending >From: wexwimpy wexwi…@verizon.net >Date: 8/4/2004 11:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time >Message-id: <odv1h0dbb6g49i5d6fjvtjp4k5vvpu7…@4ax.com> >Tech contract Taxpayers on hook for reckless spending >Last update: 03 August 2004 >The state is spending $325 million on a massive technology overhaul. >But state auditors say they’re not sure Florida needs a massive >technology overhaul. The state technology office never proved it was >justified. State negotiators didn’t follow state bidding laws when >they awarded the contract to two politically connected vendors. The >contracts governing the deal are too vague and could leave taxpayers >on the hook for more than the original amount. >The language in Auditor General Bill Monroe’s review is staid. But the >sense of baffled frustration is clear. Multiple laws have been broken >and multiple safeguards trampled in the rush to get this contract >signed and start the money flowing. >The pipeline goes straight to two favored vendors — Accenture and >BearingPoint, both of which have heavy connections to the governor’s >office and the White House. It’s a money trail state auditors have >become all too familiar with. >Both companies boast bright new names that front old friends of the >Bush family. Accenture is the new name of the former Andersen >Consulting, a spinoff of Arthur Andersen LLC, the infamous Enron >accountants. Florida already has Accenture to thank for producing a >list of suspected >felons to be purged from voter rolls, scrapped last month after >numerous challenges. The company also has a $69 million contract with >the Department of Business and Professional Regulation, plagued by >many of the same problems identified in the tech-office audit. >BearingPoint (formerly KPMG Consulting) has similar baggage. One $80 >million technology contract was withdrawn after complaints that the >company wrote the specifications for the bid and stacked the deck in >its own favor. Another contract with the Department of Children & >Families is under scrutiny. >Those are relatively small potatoes compared to the $325 million >technology contract, which is meant to coordinate state Web sites and >e-mail, provide user assistance and manage the enormous amount of data >that flows through state agencies, courts and other governmental >agencies. >The audit, released last week, found that the state never really >established a need for this kind of large-scale coordination or proved >that the benefits would be justified by the expense. The contract >terms give too much wiggle room to the contractors and don’t even >spell out that the state will own the computers when the project is >finished. In its response to the audit, the technology office disputed >none of this. >Compare that kind of expense to the known needs in Florida — the >thousands of children without health insurance. The number of >portables springing up on school campuses across the state. The >overcrowded roads. The overflowing prisons. >Florida taxpayers aren’t the only ones funneling money to these Bush >pals to the detriment of other core responsibilities. Both Accenture >and BearingPoint have recently landed fat federal contracts — up to >$10 billion in a homeland security deal for Accenture, up to $200 >million to BearingPoint for taking the lead in "rebuilding" Iraq’s >economy. >At some point, enough is enough. But "enough" doesn’t seem to be in >the vocabularies of President or Gov. Bush, or the firms growing rich >at taxpayers’ expense. >http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/Opinion/Editorial… OpOPN20080304.htm >Defend your civil liberties!  Get information at http://www.aclu.org, become >a member at http://www.aclu.org/join and get active at >http://www.aclu.org/action.

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Tech contract Taxpayers on hook for reckless spending Last update: 03 August 2004 The state is spending $325 million on a massive technology overhaul. But state auditors say they’re not sure Florida needs a massive technology overhaul. The state technology office never proved it was justified. State negotiators didn’t follow state bidding laws when they awarded the contract to two politically connected vendors. The contracts governing the deal are too vague and could leave taxpayers on the hook for more than the original amount. The language in Auditor General Bill Monroe’s review is staid. But the sense of baffled frustration is clear. Multiple laws have been broken and multiple safeguards trampled in the rush to get this contract signed and start the money flowing. The pipeline goes straight to two favored vendors — Accenture and BearingPoint, both of which have heavy connections to the governor’s office and the White House. It’s a money trail state auditors have become all too familiar with. Both companies boast bright new names that front old friends of the Bush family. Accenture is the new name of the former Andersen Consulting, a spinoff of Arthur Andersen LLC, the infamous Enron accountants. Florida already has Accenture to thank for producing a list of suspected felons to be purged from voter rolls, scrapped last month after numerous challenges. The company also has a $69 million contract with the Department of Business and Professional Regulation, plagued by many of the same problems identified in the tech-office audit. BearingPoint (formerly KPMG Consulting) has similar baggage. One $80 million technology contract was withdrawn after complaints that the company wrote the specifications for the bid and stacked the deck in its own favor. Another contract with the Department of Children & Families is under scrutiny. Those are relatively small potatoes compared to the $325 million technology contract, which is meant to coordinate state Web sites and e-mail, provide user assistance and manage the enormous amount of data that flows through state agencies, courts and other governmental agencies. The audit, released last week, found that the state never really established a need for this kind of large-scale coordination or proved that the benefits would be justified by the expense. The contract terms give too much wiggle room to the contractors and don’t even spell out that the state will own the computers when the project is finished. In its response to the audit, the technology office disputed none of this. Compare that kind of expense to the known needs in Florida — the thousands of children without health insurance. The number of portables springing up on school campuses across the state. The overcrowded roads. The overflowing prisons. Florida taxpayers aren’t the only ones funneling money to these Bush pals to the detriment of other core responsibilities. Both Accenture and BearingPoint have recently landed fat federal contracts — up to $10 billion in a homeland security deal for Accenture, up to $200 million to BearingPoint for taking the lead in "rebuilding" Iraq’s economy. At some point, enough is enough. But "enough" doesn’t seem to be in the vocabularies of President or Gov. Bush, or the firms growing rich at taxpayers’ expense. http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/Opinion/Editorial… Defend your civil liberties!  Get information at http://www.aclu.org, become a member at http://www.aclu.org/join and get active at http://www.aclu.org/action.

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As you might imagine, I put a lot of effort, faith, and trust in client selection.

I think we all do.  But, we all get burned every now and then for various amounts of fees.  Usually by the time you realize that it’s going to be uncollectable, it’s way to late to stop the work (it’s usually already done and delivered). — Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens,  Georgia http://www.pat-cpa.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Take the money (2/3) and run. Amen to that one <grin. Seriously, anything else is going be a waste of time since even if you *do* get something beyond the 2/3rds, you likely are going to spend far more time on getting that extra than you could make doing other, productive work for good clients.  And you also run the risk (slight, but not totally off the charts) of the client either suing you for malpractice (a preemptive move they may make if they think you are going to sue them) or filing a complaint with any/all entities or organizations they can think of that might have an interest.

There are now questions on at least some professional liability applications asking about policy regarding unpaid fees.  Liability carriers strongly discourage lawsuits over fees. — Jim Hudspeth, CFE, CPA   http://survivalworks.com

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There are now questions on at least some professional liability applications asking about policy regarding unpaid fees.  Liability carriers strongly discourage lawsuits over fees.

And that’s a funny one too, because they want us to be able to pay the premium, yet not have any collection activity beyond the mere presentation of a bill. — Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens,  Georgia http://www.pat-cpa.com

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Your Mileage May Vary.

You know, I had been wondering the very same thing that she had about this. I figured out the AFAIK and the others, but this one always had me stumped. The nearest I had ever come was Your Mother Married Valentino, but I couldn’t see the relevance of it. — Todd Stephens

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Basically it’s a CYA. A similar one is HTH = Hope This Helps. Lucien — If you receive this by error, please delete it and inform the sender. PGP Key fingerprint=F1C0 D9AE 1B18 1405 4DFA  B4CC 6DC7 FF78 C76E FB15 To Big Brother Echelon from "spook": Ft. Bragg plutonium arrangements Nazi Semtex obfuscation AK-47 GWB KGB

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With the exception of certain stipulated SurvivalWorks fees, all of our fees are negotiable all of the time. We commonly base our tax preparation fees on the forms prepared, our traditional accounting services on the approximate time expended, and other services on some rational basis, all adjusted for economic reality. We do not use forced collection – ever. In the event of a dispute we negotiate. Ultimately we accept whatever our client wishes to pay us, even if it is $-0-. In the event our client thinks we have done an outstanding job and wants to pay us more the we have billed (it has happened), we graciously accept.

In the mobile Southeast Florida market I took a reverse approach. I only work without engagement letters WITH TEETH. Provisions suggested by the AICPA and the Florida CPA board limit my liability, require retainers, let me check client credit & provide for attorney fees and costs. However, arbitration is mandatory and costs include the time we spend trying to collect, at standard rates. I also can keep our work until clients pay for it. This is contrary to a recent state rule, but that should not apply with an express contrary agreement (I am sending Florida a copy, though I may not actually enforce the provision). I always had a personal guarantee of fees for existing corporations, but will now make clients liable for any person or entity for which they request service. Finally. I try to minimize disputes with a Credit If (the invoice is) Paid in 7 Days when time charges seem high.    Mike Block, QuickBooks Tax Cut CPA, 954-566-7540 Lowest QB Prices   http://blocktax.com/lowest_QuickBooks_prices.htm Free 462p QB Book  http://blocktax.com/free-quickbooks-book.htm Error Codes/Fixes  http://blocktax.com/quickbooks-errors.htm Shortcuts Download http://blocktax.com/quickbooks_shortcuts.htm 200 QB Add-ons http://blocktax.com/quickbooks-addons/quickbooks-add-ons.htm

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My thanks to all who responded.  I will take your advice and chalk the balance up to "cost of learning whom to avoid". One further short question — Lucien had "YMMV" at the tail end of his reply — what does this stand for?  

Your Milage May Vary. — http://cbbrowne.com/info/finances.html "The Amiga  is proof that  if you build  a better mousetrap,  the rats

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The lesson is, of course, never let the client get ahead of you like that. You have no recourse, so it must be pay-as-you go…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi folks — Maybe someone out here has advice for me on how to handle this situation.  I took on a client (details changed to protect the guilty), a small association that wanted to fire it’s management company and start to manage itself.  My part was to get everything ready for the switch and get them set up in QuickBooks for receivables (they were already using it for payables).  They insisted on a fixed-price contract, which I was underwhelmed about, but OK, they were nervous about time billing. So, now that the work is almost complete, they don’t want to pay me in full and have offered 2/3 of the agreed upon price and told me to not come back; they’d finish the work themselves.  They are stating "tardiness in response" (if you send a business e-mail at 11:30 PM on Friday why would you expect a responce before Monday?), "lack of priority for our association" (where did they get _that_ from?) and "not completing the contract work" (trying to add in things that were never contracted for).  One of the people involved in the group was an accounting manager at a (now defunct) local high-tech company, so it’s not like the stuff they left out of the contract but still expected done could be chalked up to lack of knowledge on his part. I don’t want to be bothered trying to take these dimwits to court, as it just devolves into a he said-she said fight, but neither do I want to settle for less than my full fee.  I worked hard for these bozos and did everything and more that they contracted for, did it on time, and correctly. Any suggestions?  ? Catherine

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The lesson is, of course, never let the client get ahead of you like that. You have no recourse, so it must be pay-as-you go…

My own fee policy – as copied from my web site. Fees With the exception of certain stipulated SurvivalWorks fees, all of our fees are negotiable all of the time. We commonly base our tax preparation fees on the forms prepared, our traditional accounting services on the approximate time expended, and other services on some rational basis, all adjusted for economic reality. We do not use forced collection – ever. In the event of a dispute we negotiate. Ultimately we accept whatever our client wishes to pay us, even if it is $-0-. In the event our client thinks we have done an outstanding job and wants to pay us more the we have billed (it has happened), we graciously accept. http://home.att.net/~jdhcpa/SERVICES.htm As you might imagine, I put a lot of effort, faith, and trust in client selection. — Jim Hudspeth, CFE, CPA   http://survivalworks.com

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Take the money (2/3) and run.

Amen to that one <grin. Seriously, anything else is going be a waste of time since even if you *do* get something beyond the 2/3rds, you likely are going to spend far more time on getting that extra than you could make doing other, productive work for good clients.  And you also run the risk (slight, but not totally off the charts) of the client either suing you for malpractice (a preemptive move they may make if they think you are going to sue them) or filing a complaint with any/all entities or organizations they can think of that might have an interest.

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Sometimes we lick our wounds and move on.  I’d get the cash they offered if it’s 2/3rds of your fee and return their materials, and move on.  Else you’ll end up in court or just loosing. — Fast and accurate solutions to accounting software problems. MAS90 Sales & Service * Quickbooks Technical Support Accounting, Taxes & Bookkeeping Services Jack Hatfield

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bienvenue — RB Cohors Praetoria

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For Judith: muchas gracias! Sat, May 19, 2001 Cancer (June 21 – July 22) Excellent day for standing barefoot on the lawn and wiggling your toes. Under no circumstance should you stand barefoot on the lawn and wiggle your nose. It simply isn’t done. I wiggled my nose anyway, and sure enough I was picked up by the police. judith, just kidding

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For Judith: Sat, May 19, 2001 today’s quote: I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough. — Mark Twain Aries (March 21 – April 19) You need to do something about that nervous laugh. Practice an "evil laugh" and use that instead. Then at least, you’ll be able to hear everyone else’s nervous laughter. Taurus (April 20 – May 20) Good day to doodle. Gemini (May 21 – June 20) It’s ok to whistle while you work. Your co-workers will draw the line at yodelling while you work, however. They’re probably just jealous. Cancer (June 21 – July 22) Excellent day for standing barefoot on the lawn and wiggling your toes. Under no circumstance should you stand barefoot on the lawn and wiggle your nose. It simply isn’t done. Leo (July 23 – August 22) Soon you will get into accounting, "just for the thrill of it". Virgo (August 23 – September 22) Unbeknownst to thee, thou art over-fond of archaic terms. Prithee, wouldst thou kindly desist? Libra (September 22 – October 22) Good day to start saving up for that electron microscope you’ve always wanted. I hear Sears will be having a big sale on them this fall. Scorpio (October 23 – November 21) You will begin an evil project, in secret. You will be successful. Although why you want to produce a cross between a St. Bernard and a chihuahua is anybody’s guess. Sagittarius (November 22 – December 21) A very short and hairy person will bother you today. Unfortunately, you will be unable to ignore them, try though you might. Capricorn (December 22 – January 20) Excellent time to hum popular songs, just slightly off key. If you do that long enough, the people around you will change in appearance. You’ll be able to see the veins in their neck, for one thing. Aquarius (January 21 – February 18) Today you will see a free floating full torso vaporous apparition! It’ll turn out that your glasses are smudged. Pisces (February 19 – March 20) You will be conducting naval maneuvers in the bathtub today, when you will have an unfortunate accident involving your toy submarine. The visit to the emergency room will be most embarrasing. — RB what is fear but voices airy whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary – till the fatal bolt is shot

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – how about another horoscope? judith

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes <SNIP SNIP SNIP Glad to see you taking such a strong interest in my Child, Zenon-Stefan Chmilewsky… most unusual for a mental patient to do so… You don’t have a child anymore. Not what you said before… as "Petro Velykii" as "Pablo." You boasted and enjoyed a Child’s abuse, and LIED repeatedly, deleted etc. and egaged in a number of totally unethical and criminal and civil violations. Peter Velykii is another individual, not me. I am Pablo.  I post as Pablo. I’ve never posted as anyone else, your delusions to the contrary notwithstanding. Please provide me with proof that I have ever done otherwise. AC: IN COURT, *lying*  -gutless-  mental defective _scumbag_! HAHAHA!  I await my summons! You enjoyed Ingrid Eve Runden, MD’s mentally ill, sexual excesses and legal triumphs at the cost of a Child. No, you have it wrong. as you said to me, "Please provide me with proof" Right mental patient? I congratulate her for escaping from your tyranny and abuse.  She is a brave woman. She is a LYING COWARD, that LIED to the Court as did her attorney Paul A. Weeks, of Bangor, ME. No, she simply told the truth.  This is why you lost every step of the way. You are delusional. What do you know of it, save what *I* post? I know a HELL of a lot more than you think I do, Andrew. <SNIP SNIP SNIP

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes <snip I completely agree with you.  No doubt his recent self-disclosure will make its way back to Maine.  Ingy needs all the ammo she can get to protect young Zenon. In order to keep him sexually abused with her sex partners and the people you have posted of …. the unnamed contacts in the State of Maine? No, to protect him from YOU!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes x-no-archive: yes <snip I completely agree with you.  No doubt his recent self-disclosure will make its way back to Maine.  Ingy needs all the ammo she can get to protect young Zenon. In order to keep him sexually abused with her sex partners and the people you have posted of …. the unnamed contacts in the State of Maine? No, to protect him from YOU! Not what you said before… as "Petro Velykii" as "Pablo." You boasted and enjoyed a Child’s abuse, and LIED repeatedly, deleted etc. and egaged in a number of totally unethical and criminal and civil violations. Peter Velykii is another individual, not me.  I am Pablo.  I post as Pablo. I’ve never posted as anyone else, your delusions to the contrary notwithstanding.  Please provide me with proof that I have ever done otherwise. You enjoyed Ingrid Eve Runden, MD’s mentally ill, sexual excesses and legal triumphs at the cost of a Child. No, you have it wrong.  I congratulate her for escaping from your tyranny and abuse.  She is a brave woman.  No one should have to put up with living with you. For you are an admitted mental case, taking psychiatric etc. drugs. Again, please direct me to prior posts of mine suggesting such. You are shit. And your opinion counts for nothing.

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x-no-archive: yes x-no-archive: yes <snip

Gowder, you fat, sloppy mental case…  The truth can’t be "cleverly" "sniped" out, now can it? I don’t even have to _bother_  "snipping" it back in… You are a LOSER like your mentally ill mind. Gowder mental case: I completely agree with you.  No doubt his recent self-disclosure will make its way back to Maine.  Ingy needs all the ammo she can get to protect young Zenon.

AC: In order to keep him sexually abused with her sex partners and the people you have posted of …. the unnamed contacts in the State of Maine?

Gowder mental case: No, to protect him from YOU!

AC: Glad to see you taking such a strong interest in my Child, Zenon-Stefan Chmilewsky… most unusual for a mental patient to do so… AC: Not what you said before… as "Petro Velykii" as "Pablo." You boasted and enjoyed a Child’s abuse, and LIED repeatedly, deleted etc. and egaged in a number of totally unethical and criminal and civil violations.

Gowder mental case: Peter Velykii is another individual, not me.

I am Pablo.  I post as Pablo. I’ve never posted as anyone else,

 your delusions to the contrary notwithstanding. Please provide me with proof that I have ever done

otherwise.

AC: IN COURT, *lying*  -gutless-  mental defective _scumbag_! You enjoyed Ingrid Eve Runden, MD’s mentally ill, sexual excesses and legal triumphs at the cost of a Child.

Gowder mental case: No, you have it wrong.

AC: as you said to me, "Please provide me with proof" Right mental patient? Gowder mental case: I congratulate her for escaping from your tyranny

and abuse.  She is a brave woman.

She is a LYING COWARD, that LIED to the Court as did her attorney Paul A. Weeks, of Bangor, ME. What do you know of it, save what *I* post? Right MENTAL CASE PAUL GOWDER, ESQ? Though you seem to boast of her bizzare sexual activity, don’t you? And she IS, a MENTAL CASE, LIKE YOU… probably why you back her up, of course…. against a "norm." Gowder mental case: No one should have to put up with living with you.

AC You know me? Have lived with me? Or just with another mental case like Hannah Elizabeth Shapere? For you are an admitted mental case, taking psychiatric etc. drugs.

Gowder mental case: Again, please direct me to prior posts of mine suggesting such.

AC You have posted of EATING your psychiatric drugs… haven’t you? OR do you now "forget"? Your girlfriend Hanna Elizabeth Shapere has posted of your psychiatric drug usage, and you have posted of your pot smoking habits, which you denied/lied about, right? You are shit.

Gowder mental case: And your opinion counts for nothing.

AC But the opinion of a loud mouth, proven liar and mental case counts for more? Andrew Chmilewsky Bayonne, NJ

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x-no-archive: yes <snip

Most deceptive "editing" – isn’t it Gowder? Gowder: I completely agree with you.  No doubt his recent self-disclosure will make its way back to Maine.  Ingy needs all the ammo she can get to protect young Zenon.

AC: In order to keep him sexually abused with her sex partners and the people you have posted of …. the unnamed contacts in the State of Maine?

Gowder: No, to protect him from YOU!

You dishonesty, is obvious to all except your fellow liar, mental defective and Child abuser, LindaGore of Los Vegas, Gowder. AC

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes <snip I completely agree with you.  No doubt his recent self-disclosure will make its way back to Maine.  Ingy needs all the ammo she can get to protect young Zenon. In order to keep him sexually abused with her sex partners and the people you have posted of …. the unnamed contacts in the State of Maine? No, to protect him from YOU!

Not what you said before… as "Petro Velykii" as "Pablo." You boasted and enjoyed a Child’s abuse, and LIED repeatedly, deleted etc. and egaged in a number of totally unethical and criminal and civil violations. You enjoyed Ingrid Eve Runden, MD’s mentally ill, sexual excesses and legal triumphs at the cost of a Child. For you are an admitted mental case, taking psychiatric etc. drugs. You are shit. Andrew Chmilewsky Bayonne, NJ

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <SNIP In order to keep him sexually abused with her sex partners and the people you have posted of …. the unnamed contacts in the State of Maine? Andrew, Your responses are soooooo pithy and to the point. Ever thought about teaching ? It was a school teacher before it went mad and lost his position upon wifey getting treated for her depression, kicking his butt out,  and receiving not only custody of child but an order where the courts prohibited his visitation and his making phone contact. Linda

Yes, the SLUT & Child abuser and attorneys and Judge in that two-bit town behaved most strangely… along with many others… POST THE MEDICAL COMPLAINT… AND THE "KIDNAPPING" claims you made about me in e-mails supposedly of my planning such….. SLUT ! Well… seems like a challenge to me….

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes I thought I was the only one naive enough to post to NG using my own name. Once I realized the error of having done so, I figured everyone was smarter than I and no one was posting using their real name, including Andrew. Figures he be foolish enough and such an egomaniac to post his mad ravings under his actual name. This is part of his mental illness.  Among other things, Andrew has poor impulse control. Your saying a lot of what he shared is true, and the post of Irene V Andrew in Livingston NJ all real. Yes indeed.  The civil matter I’m referring to (C-000308-99) was an accounting action in the Superior Court of Essex County, NJ.  Andrew is listed as the debtor.  The judgment date was 1/4/2000, and the amount was $14,800.  This can be verified by his mother’s attorney, John L. Weichsel, Esq. or by a simple request to the court. Speaking of money Andrew owes others, I’ve been wondering if he’s been using his Alex Thurston identity to hide certain assets from prying eyes.  He has consistently refused to comment on the purpose of Thurston’s existence. He certainly owes ME no explanation, but others (e.g., the Social Security Administration, certain attorneys, etc.) might not share this view. I guess it will be easier than I assumed to get the authorities on him. Yes, he is quite reachable.  And he’s left himself wide open by using two identities with the same Social Security number.  Big fat error on his part. I didn’t actually verify anyone was successful in getting his ATT privileges suspended.  I assumed they would soon as it was published that was his ISP. At least one complaint was sent to Worldnet back in October.  Nothing was done about it, but at least it’s on record.  Perhaps if others complain, the e-trail will grow.  Here’s hoping he’ll soon have to fork over money for yet another ISP. Thanks for the helpful info. I am here to serve!  ;-) PS I saw your other post, about his incestous relations with male relatives. I hope the courts having jurisdiction over custody/visitation of his son are made aware of his history of male incest with relatives. I completely agree with you.  No doubt his recent self-disclosure will make its way back to Maine.  Ingy needs all the ammo she can get to protect young Zenon.

In order to keep him sexually abused with her sex partners and the people you have posted of …. the unnamed contacts in the State of Maine?

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Granted.  But AccPac has been too big for it’s own britches for years. If the company cant keep the past 3 major versions up to date they should stop producing. __Stephen

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Talk about unadulterated pap, just listen to yourself. Accounting software should not be considered an expense but as an investment.  If software companies released everything a user wanted with version 1.0 then we would all still be using VisiCalc, DB II and WordPerfect 1.0 and DOS 1.0. My comments about a software’s life cycle holds true for all software packages and vendors. When a product’s rev version has all the features an end user needs and wants, then by all means stop upgrading. What the user must realize is that those individuals charged with the responsibility of supporting these products can only be reasonably be expected to be current on perhaps the last two revisions of the software. Can you imagine what it would cost a software company in internal training costs if their new tech support people had to be knowledgeable in every version released over the last 15 years. Allan Martin Just listen to this nonsense. Anyone who would purchase Accpac has to be off his/her nut! More junk sold and sold and resold again forcing the users to shell out more bucks for upgrades and even product support. Shear unadulterated pap. Where did you hear that Accpac was no longer supporting 3.0? In any event, like all midrange windows accounting solutions, halting your upgrades at version 3.0 is ill advised. The life cycle of the product at version 3.0 was at the beginning and many improvements have been incorporated since its release. Version 4.2 will be available on September 1st so it is a little premature for me comment on the product at this time,  I expect to receive my demo shortly. (I am an Accpac dealer). The only thing I can say about version 4.2 is that if the promised performance increase only turns out to be 1/5 of the advertised increase I would be more than pleased, in fact I’ll be jumping for joy. As far a your old consultant (dealer) it is in his/her best interest to advise you to maintain your SupportPlus contract since they automatically receive a commission when you renew each year. I advise all my clients that the 15% of SRP for SupportPlus is a very good investment. By the way, because certain features were dropped from the Small Business Series with the introduction of version 4.1 had you been on SupportPlus,  you would have been entitled to a free upgrade to the Corporate Series. A not fot profit organization in the Mississauga (Toronto/Canada) area is looking for a reliable, reasonable accpac consultant who is familiar with the FR feature.  This organization is presently using Accpac for Windows version 3.0 small business series, and would like to upgrade. We do not have accpac support plus, would it have been our consultants responsibility to inform us that accpac no longer supports accpac version 3.0? Is accpac corporate series 4.2 also a memory hog like 3.0? What are your comments of corporate series 4.2 verses small business series 3.0? please reply to one of the following emails: Before you buy.

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These were not minor releases, only the numerical increment of their numbering system. Version 3.0 was released close to 4 years ago. The next version however will be 5.0. I believe what is in question here is how they define support. From my past experience when Accpac says they no longer support a particular version, all they are saying is the source code will no longer be modified.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I consider any .X as a minor release and N. as a major release.  So to say they only support the last 3 minor versions, 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2,  to be quite lame. Does M$ support 95, 98, NT3.5, NT4.0 and Win2K.  I tink that Win3.x is no longer supported but that was 5 years ago.  How far back is 4.0 anyway ? __Stephen P.S. I still support a package from 93. Stephen The original poster is using version 3.0. Accpac has since released Version 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2. Allan Martin I rest my case, your Honor.

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I consider any .X as a minor release and N. as a major release.  So to say they only support the last 3 minor versions, 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2,  to be quite lame. Does M$ support 95, 98, NT3.5, NT4.0 and Win2K.  I tink that Win3.x is no longer supported but that was 5 years ago.  How far back is 4.0 anyway ? __Stephen P.S. I still support a package from 93.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Stephen The original poster is using version 3.0. Accpac has since released Version 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2. Allan Martin I rest my case, your Honor.

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Stephen The original poster is using version 3.0. Accpac has since released Version 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2. Allan Martin

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Granted.  But AccPac has been too big for it’s own britches for years. If the company cant keep the past 3 major versions up to date they should stop producing. __Stephen Talk about unadulterated pap, just listen to yourself. Accounting software should not be considered an expense but as an investment.  If software companies released everything a user wanted with version 1.0 then we would all still be using VisiCalc, DB II and WordPerfect 1.0 and DOS 1.0. My comments about a software’s life cycle holds true for all software packages and vendors. When a product’s rev version has all the features an end user needs and wants, then by all means stop upgrading. What the user must realize is that those individuals charged with the responsibility of supporting these products can only be reasonably be expected to be current on perhaps the last two revisions of the software. Can you imagine what it would cost a software company in internal training costs if their new tech support people had to be knowledgeable in every version released over the last 15 years. Allan Martin Just listen to this nonsense. Anyone who would purchase Accpac has to be off his/her nut! More junk sold and sold and resold again forcing the users to shell out more bucks for upgrades and even product support. Shear unadulterated pap. Where did you hear that Accpac was no longer supporting 3.0? In any event, like all midrange windows accounting solutions, halting your upgrades at version 3.0 is ill advised. The life cycle of the product at version 3.0 was at the beginning and many improvements have been incorporated since its release. Version 4.2 will be available on September 1st so it is a little premature for me comment on the product at this time,  I expect to receive my demo shortly. (I am an Accpac dealer). The only thing I can say about version 4.2 is that if the promised performance increase only turns out to be 1/5 of the advertised increase I would be more than pleased, in fact I’ll be jumping for joy. As far a your old consultant (dealer) it is in his/her best interest to advise you to maintain your SupportPlus contract since they automatically receive a commission when you renew each year. I advise all my clients that the 15% of SRP for SupportPlus is a very good investment. By the way, because certain features were dropped from the Small Business Series with the introduction of version 4.1 had you been on SupportPlus,  you would have been entitled to a free upgrade to the Corporate Series. A not fot profit organization in the Mississauga (Toronto/Canada) area is looking for a reliable, reasonable accpac consultant who is familiar with the FR feature.  This organization is presently using Accpac for Windows version 3.0 small business series, and would like to upgrade. We do not have accpac support plus, would it have been our consultants responsibility to inform us that accpac no longer supports accpac version 3.0? Is accpac corporate series 4.2 also a memory hog like 3.0? What are your comments of corporate series 4.2 verses small business series 3.0? please reply to one of the following emails: Before you buy.

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A not fot profit organization in the Mississauga (Toronto/Canada) area is looking for a reliable, reasonable accpac consultant who is familiar with the FR feature.  This organization is presently using Accpac for Windows version 3.0 small business series, and would like to upgrade. We do not have accpac support plus, would it have been our consultants responsibility to inform us that accpac no longer supports accpac version 3.0? Is accpac corporate series 4.2 also a memory hog like 3.0? What are your comments of corporate series 4.2 verses small business series 3.0? please reply to one of the following emails: Before you buy.

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 Where did you hear that Accpac was no longer supporting 3.0? In any event, like all midrange windows accounting solutions, halting your upgrades at version 3.0 is ill advised. The life cycle of the product at version 3.0 was at the beginning and many improvements have been incorporated since its release. Version 4.2 will be available on September 1st so it is a little premature for me comment on the product at this time,  I expect to receive my demo shortly. (I am an Accpac dealer). The only thing I can say about version 4.2 is that if the promised performance increase only turns out to be 1/5 of the advertised increase I would be more than pleased, in fact I’ll be jumping for joy. As far a your old consultant (dealer) it is in his/her best interest to advise you to maintain your SupportPlus contract since they automatically receive a commission when you renew each year. I advise all my clients that the 15% of SRP for SupportPlus is a very good investment. By the way, because certain features were dropped from the Small Business Series with the introduction of version 4.1 had you been on SupportPlus,  you would have been entitled to a free upgrade to the Corporate Series.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A not fot profit organization in the Mississauga (Toronto/Canada) area is looking for a reliable, reasonable accpac consultant who is familiar with the FR feature.  This organization is presently using Accpac for Windows version 3.0 small business series, and would like to upgrade. We do not have accpac support plus, would it have been our consultants responsibility to inform us that accpac no longer supports accpac version 3.0? Is accpac corporate series 4.2 also a memory hog like 3.0? What are your comments of corporate series 4.2 verses small business series 3.0? please reply to one of the following emails: Before you buy.

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Talk about unadulterated pap, just listen to yourself. Accounting software should not be considered an expense but as an investment.  If software companies released everything a user wanted with version 1.0 then we would all still be using VisiCalc, DB II and WordPerfect 1.0 and DOS 1.0. My comments about a software’s life cycle holds true for all software packages and vendors. When a product’s rev version has all the features an end user needs and wants, then by all means stop upgrading. What the user must realize is that those individuals charged with the responsibility of supporting these products can only be reasonably be expected to be current on perhaps the last two revisions of the software. Can you imagine what it would cost a software company in internal training costs if their new tech support people had to be knowledgeable in every version released over the last 15 years. Allan Martin

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just listen to this nonsense. Anyone who would purchase Accpac has to be off his/her nut! More junk sold and sold and resold again forcing the users to shell out more bucks for upgrades and even product support. Shear unadulterated pap. Where did you hear that Accpac was no longer supporting 3.0? In any event, like all midrange windows accounting solutions, halting your upgrades at version 3.0 is ill advised. The life cycle of the product at version 3.0 was at the beginning and many improvements have been incorporated since its release. Version 4.2 will be available on September 1st so it is a little premature for me comment on the product at this time,  I expect to receive my demo shortly. (I am an Accpac dealer). The only thing I can say about version 4.2 is that if the promised performance increase only turns out to be 1/5 of the advertised increase I would be more than pleased, in fact I’ll be jumping for joy. As far a your old consultant (dealer) it is in his/her best interest to advise you to maintain your SupportPlus contract since they automatically receive a commission when you renew each year. I advise all my clients that the 15% of SRP for SupportPlus is a very good investment. By the way, because certain features were dropped from the Small Business Series with the introduction of version 4.1 had you been on SupportPlus,  you would have been entitled to a free upgrade to the Corporate Series. A not fot profit organization in the Mississauga (Toronto/Canada) area is looking for a reliable, reasonable accpac consultant who is familiar with the FR feature.  This organization is presently using Accpac for Windows version 3.0 small business series, and would like to upgrade. We do not have accpac support plus, would it have been our consultants responsibility to inform us that accpac no longer supports accpac version 3.0? Is accpac corporate series 4.2 also a memory hog like 3.0? What are your comments of corporate series 4.2 verses small business series 3.0? please reply to one of the following emails: Before you buy.

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On Christmas Eve On Christmas Eve, a young boy with light in his eyes looked deep into Santa’s, to Santa’s surprise and said as he sat on Santa’s broad knee, "I want your secret. Tell it to me." He leaned up and whispered in Santa’s good ear "How do you do it, year after year?" "I want to know how, as you travel about, giving gifts here and there, you never run out. How is it, Dear Santa, that in your pack of toys you have plenty for all of the world’s girls and boys? Stays so full, never empties, as you make your way from rooftop to rooftop, to homes large and small, from nation to nation, reaching them all?" And Santa smiled kindly and said to the boy, "Don’t ask me hard questions. Don’t you want a toy?" But the child shook his head, and Santa could see that he needed the answer.  "Now listen to me." He told that small boy with the light in his eyes, "My secret will make you sadder and wise. "The truth is that my sack is magic. Inside it holds millions of toys for my Christmas Eve ride. But although I do visit each girl and each boy, I don’t always leave them a gaily wrapped toy. Some homes are hungry, some homes are sad, some homes are desperate, some homes are bad. Some homes are broken, and the children there grieve. Those homes I visit, but what should I leave? "My sleigh is filled with the happiest stuff, but for homes where despair lives toys aren’t enough. So I tiptoe in, kiss each girl and boy, and I pray with them that they’ll be given the joy of the spirit of Christmas, the spirit that lives in the heart of the dear child who gets not, but gives.  "If only God hears me and answers my prayer, when I visit next year, what I will find there are homes filled with peace, and with giving, and love and boys and girls gifted with light from above.  It’s a very hard task, my smart little brother, to give toys to some, and to give prayers to others. But the prayers are the best gifts, the best gifts indeed, for God has a way of meeting each need. "That’s part of the answer. The rest, my dear youth, is that my sack is magic. And that is the truth. In my sack I carry on Christmas Eve day more love than a Santa could e`er give away. The sack never empties of love, or of joys `Cause inside it are prayers, and hope. Not just toys. The more that I give, the fuller it seems, because giving is my way of fulfilling dreams. "And do you know something? You’ve got a sack, too. It’s as magic as mine, and it’s inside of you. It never gets empty, it’s full from the start. It’s the center of lights, and love. It’s your heart. And if on this Christmas you want to help me, don’t be so concerned with the gifts `neath your tree. Open that sack called your heart, and share your joy, your friendship, your wealth, your care." The light in the small boy’s eyes was glowing. "Thanks for your secret. I’ve got to be going." "Wait, little boy," Said Santa, "don’t go. Will You share? Will you help? Will you use what you know?" And just for a moment the small boy stood still, touched his heart with his small hand and whispered, "I will. Author Unknown Wishing all a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. Jack Novak

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Thank you.  May the peace and joy of the season be with you too.

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Very Nice Jack!   Thanks for sharing,                 -Jon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On Christmas Eve On Christmas Eve, a young boy with light in his eyes looked deep into Santa’s, to Santa’s surprise and said as he sat on Santa’s broad knee, "I want your secret. Tell it to me." He leaned up and whispered in Santa’s good ear "How do you do it, year after year?" "I want to know how, as you travel about, giving gifts here and there, you never run out. How is it, Dear Santa, that in your pack of toys you have plenty for all of the world’s girls and boys? Stays so full, never empties, as you make your way from rooftop to rooftop, to homes large and small, from nation to nation, reaching them all?" And Santa smiled kindly and said to the boy, "Don’t ask me hard questions. Don’t you want a toy?" But the child shook his head, and Santa could see that he needed the answer.  "Now listen to me." He told that small boy with the light in his eyes, "My secret will make you sadder and wise. "The truth is that my sack is magic. Inside it holds millions of toys for my Christmas Eve ride. But although I do visit each girl and each boy, I don’t always leave them a gaily wrapped toy. Some homes are hungry, some homes are sad, some homes are desperate, some homes are bad. Some homes are broken, and the children there grieve. Those homes I visit, but what should I leave? "My sleigh is filled with the happiest stuff, but for homes where despair lives toys aren’t enough. So I tiptoe in, kiss each girl and boy, and I pray with them that they’ll be given the joy of the spirit of Christmas, the spirit that lives in the heart of the dear child who gets not, but gives.  "If only God hears me and answers my prayer, when I visit next year, what I will find there are homes filled with peace, and with giving, and love and boys and girls gifted with light from above.  It’s a very hard task, my smart little brother, to give toys to some, and to give prayers to others. But the prayers are the best gifts, the best gifts indeed, for God has a way of meeting each need. "That’s part of the answer. The rest, my dear youth, is that my sack is magic. And that is the truth. In my sack I carry on Christmas Eve day more love than a Santa could e`er give away. The sack never empties of love, or of joys `Cause inside it are prayers, and hope. Not just toys. The more that I give, the fuller it seems, because giving is my way of fulfilling dreams. "And do you know something? You’ve got a sack, too. It’s as magic as mine, and it’s inside of you. It never gets empty, it’s full from the start. It’s the center of lights, and love. It’s your heart. And if on this Christmas you want to help me, don’t be so concerned with the gifts `neath your tree. Open that sack called your heart, and share your joy, your friendship, your wealth, your care." The light in the small boy’s eyes was glowing. "Thanks for your secret. I’ve got to be going." "Wait, little boy," Said Santa, "don’t go. Will You share? Will you help? Will you use what you know?" And just for a moment the small boy stood still, touched his heart with his small hand and whispered, "I will. Author Unknown Wishing all a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. Jack Novak

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Jack, Thanks for the wonderful Christmas message. I’ll share it with friends and family. May you holiday season be filled with joy, love and peace. Mark Burton

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Thank you Jack, and Merry Christmas to you and your’s……. Rob

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Thanks for sharing that with us Jack.  A very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. — Jake The only difference between men & boys is the price of their toys.

| On Christmas Eve | | On Christmas Eve, a young boy with light in his eyes | looked deep into Santa’s, to Santa’s surprise | and said as he sat on Santa’s broad knee, | "I want your secret. Tell it to me." | | He leaned up and whispered in Santa’s good ear | "How do you do it, year after year?" | "I want to know how, as you travel about, | giving gifts here and there, you never run out. | | How is it, Dear Santa, | that in your pack of toys | you have plenty for all | of the world’s girls and boys? | | Stays so full, never empties, as you make your way | from rooftop to rooftop, to homes large and small, | from nation to nation, reaching them all?" | | And Santa smiled kindly | and said to the boy, | "Don’t ask me hard questions. | Don’t you want a toy?" | | But the child shook his head, and Santa could see | that he needed the answer.  "Now listen to me." | He told that small boy with the light in his eyes, | "My secret will make you sadder and wise. | | "The truth is that my sack is magic. | Inside it holds millions of toys for my Christmas Eve ride. | But although I do visit each girl and each boy, | I don’t always leave them a gaily wrapped toy. | | Some homes are hungry, some homes are sad, | some homes are desperate, some homes are bad. | Some homes are broken, and the children there grieve. | Those homes I visit, but what should I leave? | | | | | | | "My sleigh is filled with the happiest stuff, | but for homes where despair lives toys aren’t enough. | So I tiptoe in, kiss each girl and boy, | and I pray with them that they’ll be given the joy | of the spirit of Christmas, | the spirit that lives | in the heart of the dear child | who gets not, but gives. | |  "If only God hears me and answers my prayer, | when I visit next year, what I will find there are homes filled with | peace, | and with giving, and love | and boys and girls gifted with light from above. | |  It’s a very hard task, my smart little brother, | to give toys to some, and to give prayers to others. | But the prayers are the best gifts, the best gifts indeed, | for God has a way of meeting each need. | | "That’s part of the answer. The rest, my dear youth, | is that my sack is magic. And that is the truth. | In my sack I carry on Christmas Eve day | more love than a Santa could e`er give away. | | The sack never empties of love, or of joys | `Cause inside it are prayers, and hope. Not just toys. | The more that I give, the fuller it seems, | because giving is my way of fulfilling dreams. | | "And do you know something? You’ve got a sack, too. | It’s as magic as mine, and it’s inside of you. | It never gets empty, it’s full from the start. | It’s the center of lights, and love. It’s your heart. | | And if on this Christmas you want to help me, | don’t be so concerned with the gifts `neath your tree. | Open that sack called your heart, and share | your joy, your friendship, your wealth, your care." | | The light in the small boy’s eyes was glowing. | "Thanks for your secret. I’ve got to be going." | "Wait, little boy," Said Santa, "don’t go. | Will You share? Will you help? Will you use what you know?" | | And just for a moment the small boy stood still, | touched his heart with his small hand and whispered, "I will. | | Author Unknown | | | Wishing all a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. | | Jack Novak | |

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Beautiful… too good to keep to myself! I’ve shared it with some friends… "Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good Night" Tom — "Only after the last tree has been cut down, the last fish has been caught,when the last river has been poisoned, will you discover that money can’t be eaten." From a Cree Indian saying

On Christmas Eve On Christmas Eve, a young boy with light in his eyes looked deep into Santa’s, to Santa’s surprise and said as he sat on Santa’s broad knee, "I want your secret. Tell it to me."

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I’ll add my thanks and blessings to you and yours.  This is a wonderful piece, and I’ll share it with many! Peace and joy to all. Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On Christmas Eve On Christmas Eve, a young boy with light in his eyes looked deep into Santa’s, to Santa’s surprise and said as he sat on Santa’s broad knee, "I want your secret. Tell it to me." He leaned up and whispered in Santa’s good ear "How do you do it, year after year?" "I want to know how, as you travel about, giving gifts here and there, you never run out. How is it, Dear Santa, that in your pack of toys you have plenty for all of the world’s girls and boys? Stays so full, never empties, as you make your way from rooftop to rooftop, to homes large and small, from nation to nation, reaching them all?" And Santa smiled kindly and said to the boy, "Don’t ask me hard questions. Don’t you want a toy?" But the child shook his head, and Santa could see that he needed the answer.  "Now listen to me." He told that small boy with the light in his eyes, "My secret will make you sadder and wise. "The truth is that my sack is magic. Inside it holds millions of toys for my Christmas Eve ride. But although I do visit each girl and each boy, I don’t always leave them a gaily wrapped toy. Some homes are hungry, some homes are sad, some homes are desperate, some homes are bad. Some homes are broken, and the children there grieve. Those homes I visit, but what should I leave? "My sleigh is filled with the happiest stuff, but for homes where despair lives toys aren’t enough. So I tiptoe in, kiss each girl and boy, and I pray with them that they’ll be given the joy of the spirit of Christmas, the spirit that lives in the heart of the dear child who gets not, but gives.  "If only God hears me and answers my prayer, when I visit next year, what I will find there are homes filled with peace, and with giving, and love and boys and girls gifted with light from above.  It’s a very hard task, my smart little brother, to give toys to some, and to give prayers to others. But the prayers are the best gifts, the best gifts indeed, for God has a way of meeting each need. "That’s part of the answer. The rest, my dear youth, is that my sack is magic. And that is the truth. In my sack I carry on Christmas Eve day more love than a Santa could e`er give away. The sack never empties of love, or of joys `Cause inside it are prayers, and hope. Not just toys. The more that I give, the fuller it seems, because giving is my way of fulfilling dreams. "And do you know something? You’ve got a sack, too. It’s as magic as mine, and it’s inside of you. It never gets empty, it’s full from the start. It’s the center of lights, and love. It’s your heart. And if on this Christmas you want to help me, don’t be so concerned with the gifts `neath your tree. Open that sack called your heart, and share your joy, your friendship, your wealth, your care." The light in the small boy’s eyes was glowing. "Thanks for your secret. I’ve got to be going." "Wait, little boy," Said Santa, "don’t go. Will You share? Will you help? Will you use what you know?" And just for a moment the small boy stood still, touched his heart with his small hand and whispered, "I will. Author Unknown Wishing all a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. Jack Novak

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Somone posted a question earlier about the angles on a leg he wanted to make.  Basicallly the foot is 4" x 4" and the head is 8.5" x 8.5" with the height being 60".  He apparently had figured ot the outside angle and length but was having problems witht the diagonal angle and length.   4"                                60" |    |     |    4"  |                                    | |    |     |        |                                   |                                     +—-+     |                                             | 8.5" |        |                                             | |        |                                             | |         |                                       8.5" to that person: the "outside angle is 85.17 degrees and the lenght should be 60.17" the "dianonal angle is 83.95 degrees and the diagonal length is 60.34" e-mail me and I’ll send you a gif image explaining the hows and whys.  this type of problem shows up often when doing roof rafters san jose, ca ps:  and we all thought that taking Trig was a waste of time.      It always amazes me that a lot of framing carpenters say      they don’t know any trig but talk rise and run and their      eyes light up with familiar recognition.  Try working out      a stair layout, accounting for landings, finished floor      height etc.  And the people who do spiral staircases are      math wizards even though "math" is something they often      say they don’t understand.

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Thanks Jack, the family is now getting up and we’ll share this great message of peace, love and hope.  God bless you all.  Glen Duff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On Christmas Eve On Christmas Eve, a young boy with light in his eyes looked deep into Santa’s, to Santa’s surprise and said as he sat on Santa’s broad knee, "I want your secret. Tell it to me." He leaned up and whispered in Santa’s good ear "How do you do it, year after year?" "I want to know how, as you travel about, giving gifts here and there, you never run out. How is it, Dear Santa, that in your pack of toys you have plenty for all of the world’s girls and boys? Stays so full, never empties, as you make your way from rooftop to rooftop, to homes large and small, from nation to nation, reaching them all?" And Santa smiled kindly and said to the boy, "Don’t ask me hard questions. Don’t you want a toy?" But the child shook his head, and Santa could see that he needed the answer.  "Now listen to me." He told that small boy with the light in his eyes, "My secret will make you sadder and wise. "The truth is that my sack is magic. Inside it holds millions of toys for my Christmas Eve ride. But although I do visit each girl and each boy, I don’t always leave them a gaily wrapped toy. Some homes are hungry, some homes are sad, some homes are desperate, some homes are bad. Some homes are broken, and the children there grieve. Those homes I visit, but what should I leave? "My sleigh is filled with the happiest stuff, but for homes where despair lives toys aren’t enough. So I tiptoe in, kiss each girl and boy, and I pray with them that they’ll be given the joy of the spirit of Christmas, the spirit that lives in the heart of the dear child who gets not, but gives.  "If only God hears me and answers my prayer, when I visit next year, what I will find there are homes filled with peace, and with giving, and love and boys and girls gifted with light from above.  It’s a very hard task, my smart little brother, to give toys to some, and to give prayers to others. But the prayers are the best gifts, the best gifts indeed, for God has a way of meeting each need. "That’s part of the answer. The rest, my dear youth, is that my sack is magic. And that is the truth. In my sack I carry on Christmas Eve day more love than a Santa could e`er give away. The sack never empties of love, or of joys `Cause inside it are prayers, and hope. Not just toys. The more that I give, the fuller it seems, because giving is my way of fulfilling dreams. "And do you know something? You’ve got a sack, too. It’s as magic as mine, and it’s inside of you. It never gets empty, it’s full from the start. It’s the center of lights, and love. It’s your heart. And if on this Christmas you want to help me, don’t be so concerned with the gifts `neath your tree. Open that sack called your heart, and share your joy, your friendship, your wealth, your care." The light in the small boy’s eyes was glowing. "Thanks for your secret. I’ve got to be going." "Wait, little boy," Said Santa, "don’t go. Will You share? Will you help? Will you use what you know?" And just for a moment the small boy stood still, touched his heart with his small hand and whispered, "I will. Author Unknown Wishing all a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. Jack Novak

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3.  Replace social security withholding with mandated instruments that would have a maturity at a minimum retirement age and couple an insurance policy for health to that.

This is a brilliant idea. Hey who are you?  What city? Imagine, instead of getting a friggin worthless W-2 every year, the wage earner would receive a Zero Coupon Bond that matures precisely at their age of retirement. I am not addressing the issue of how the appreciation in the bond would be financed.  But the accounting would certainly be simplified, and clearer to the worker than ever before. The promise to the worker would be in BLACK AND WHITE, and could not be evaded by future politicians.  If they wanted to reneg, the only avenue would be thru a general inflation. The physically printed Zero Coupon Bond would not be the key element– anybody’s balance could be tracked thru a database. But the issuance of such bonds would be very beneficial!   1  makes it REAL for the worker and influences his behavior       in a positive way, especially the underfunded workers, and   2. makes it REAL for the congress and budget planners. Todd boyle CPA  Kirkland WA

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3.  Replace social security withholding with mandated instruments This is a brilliant idea. Hey who are you?  What city?

Jerry Oyler, Deltona, Florida Finishing my accounting degree after 22 years in the field.

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From each according to his means — to each according to his needs.

-snip- I hope there is not a broad based support for a flat tax. I believe in a progressive tax rate structure. In my opinion, those of us who are reaping the largest rewards from our economy should shoulder a larger portion of the burden of governing. Further, I don’t feel that our current federal income tax rates are overly high.  While a significant portion of my income is taxed at a marginal rate of 28%, my total federal income tax bill for 1998 was slightly less than 10% of my total income. (I am not including Soc Sec, state income tax, etc.)

And why do you feel that it’s necessary to go through hoops and rings to accomplish this?  That’s idiotic. Politicians proposing a flat tax are capitalizing on general discontent with *complexity* of our tax code to push the idea of a flat tax. They foster the notion that the only way to achieve tax simplification is to implemet a flat tax. That is bullshit.

At least you could see the immeidate impact of a proposed increase – the smoke and mirrors let them confuse people every time they try to hike a rate or put in a new ‘user fee’. For example, a simple progressive tax could be something like:    - Pay 0% tax on the first $30,000 of income    - Pay 10% tax on the next $30,000    - Pay 20% tax on the next $60,000    - Pay 30% tax on all remaining income No deductions, period.  No tax credits, period.

How about 10% period? (I made up all the numbers off the top of my head, They would have to be changed to make such a change "revenue neutral" with the existing tax code. But you get the idea. )

Yeah.  I do.

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I’m not necessarily siding with Forbes and I’m certainly not rich, but as to their importance:  the rich are ones who furnish the jobs unless you are a sole proprietor.  I’ve never seen a welfare recipient issue W2’s to anyone. In addition, it’s a statistical fact that the top 5% wage earners in the US pay over 50% of the total taxes collected by the IRS; so I guess they have some importance. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do I think that a flat tax can become a reality??  I doubt it.  There are too many special interests who all want self-serving breaks in the tax code.  The housing industry (and banks) will certainly fight against eliminating the mortgage interest deduction and the charities will fight against removing the charity deduction.  More importantly there are too many socialistic people (like the previous respondent) who believe in a progressive rate structure, stating those who get the largest rewards should pay higher rates (as if they won some kind of lottery).  They want to punish the successful and reward the bums laying on the sewer grates.  If a person has a new idea and/or pushes him/herself educationally and provides the jobs in the country, let’s punish them by hitting them with the higher rates. Rich people always overestimate their importance to society.  Steve Forbes thinks he’s so special that he shouldn’t pay any income tax at all on his "hard earned" money, while the average middle class person should pay payroll *and* income tax on their income.  His flat tax plan has as much a chance of being enacted as Bill Clinton’s likeness has showing up on Mt Rushmore. If a person spends his/her time on welfare and contributes nothing except more mouths to feed, let’s give them the handouts and the tax breaks. Yes, I hear most people on welfare are on it for the "tax breaks". I think a well designed flat tax could be sold to the american people if it was perceived as "fair".  How do you do that?  Well, first it’s got to cover all types of income – no exclusions for capital gains and other investment income.  Second, you establish a floor amount under which the tax doesn’t apply. I’m totally making these numbers up, but say you have a flat 15% tax rate on all income over $15,000 per person, no deductions or exceptions.  Then conservatives can feel comfortable that we’re not "punishing" success with higher tax rates, and liberals can accept that there still is some sort of a progressive system – under the above scenario a person making $30K is payiing 7.5% while a person with an income in the millions pays nearly the full 15%. I’m curious to find out what people in th United States think about hte concept of a flat tax. I know the Us has hd legislation sitting in Congress for longer than it takes an elephant to produce its offspring. A very long time in itself! Are the attitudes to flat income taxes changing or is it a dead concept just put up by some elected representatives to gain some popularity with the people in their respective states? Do they really believe such a tax can work? thanks in advance for your assistance Regards Tom Tom Ravlic Freelance writer specialising in accounting and business issues PHONE:0011 61 3 9551 1878 FAX: 0011 61 3 9551 1878 Eric Salmassy / Accounting Solutions Northwest Co-Moderator biz.comp.accounting

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The flat tax issue is one that is near and dear to my heart. The basic philosophical question is why is the last dollar a person earns more valuable to the government than the first dollar? I’m in favor of a straight flat tax (with no deductions or tax breaks as Mr. Allen favors) for two reasons: fairness and ease of enforcement. It would be fair in that anyone could be assured that the next dollar he/she earns would be taxed at the same rate as the previous dollar. Ease of enforcement would be facilitated by the flat tax rate being withheld from each person’s paycheck at the time it is disbursed (no more playing with estimated quarterly taxes and/or highly paid employees claiming 99 exemptions on their W-2’s to hold on to their money for 60-90 days or longer). The IRS could then become an agent of the Justice Department to investigate people (drug dealers, etc.) who are driving around in expensive cars and live in multi-million dollar homes who pay less tax than the average working stiff trying to make a living honestly. The less highly paid employees would be eligible for public assistance, whether it be food stamps, rent subsidies or whatever. These assistance benefits would be fazed out as the person gains experience in the workplace and works his/her way up the financial ladder. Will the flat tax be a reality in the near future? Probably not given the current political situation. But in 10-20 years when middle income retirees see closer to 50-60% of their retirement incomes used to support a progressive tax structure, I’d be willing to bet a flat tax structure may become more palatable. Am anxious to hear other points of view on this subject. D.V. McCrary

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m curious to find out what people in th United States think about hte concept of a flat tax. I know the Us has hd legislation sitting in Congress for longer than it takes an elephant to produce its offspring. A very long time in itself! Are the attitudes to flat income taxes changing or is it a dead concept just put up by some elected representatives to gain some popularity with the people in their respective states? Do they really believe such a tax can work? I hope there is not a broad based support for a flat tax. I believe in a progressive tax rate structure. In my opinion, those of us who are reaping the largest rewards from our economy should shoulder a larger portion of the burden of governing. Further, I don’t feel that our current federal income tax rates are overly high.  While a significant portion of my income is taxed at a marginal rate of 28%, my total federal income tax bill for 1998 was slightly less than 10% of my total income. (I am not including Soc Sec, state income tax, etc.) Politicians proposing a flat tax are capitalizing on general discontent with *complexity* of our tax code to push the idea of a flat tax. They foster the notion that the only way to achieve tax simplification is to implemet a flat tax. That is bullshit. For example, a simple progressive tax could be something like:    - Pay 0% tax on the first $30,000 of income    - Pay 10% tax on the next $30,000    - Pay 20% tax on the next $60,000    - Pay 30% tax on all remaining income No deductions, period.  No tax credits, period. (I made up all the numbers off the top of my head, They would have to be changed to make such a change "revenue neutral" with the existing tax code. But you get the idea. )

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The less highly paid employees would be eligible for public assistance, whether it be food stamps, rent subsidies or whatever. These assistance benefits would be fazed out as the person gains experience in the workplace and works his/her way up the financial ladder.

This is a "flat tax"??? Jim Hudspeth, CPA

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Rich people always overestimate their importance to society.  Steve Forbes thinks he’s so special that he shouldn’t pay any income tax at all on his "hard earned" money, while the average middle class person should pay payroll *and* income tax on their income.  His flat tax plan has as much a chance of being enacted as Bill Clinton’s likeness has showing up on Mt Rushmore.

ROTFL!  Go ERIC!  heh heh ! I think a well designed flat tax could be sold to the american people if it was perceived as "fair".  How do you do that?  Well, first it’s got to cover all types of income – no exclusions for capital gains and other investment income.  Second, you establish a floor amount under which the tax doesn’t apply.

and the rate has to be low.  Don’t give me a 25% Flat Tax….. I’m totally making these numbers up, but say you have a flat 15% tax rate on all income over $15,000 per person, no deductions or exceptions.  Then conservatives can feel comfortable that we’re not "punishing" success with higher tax rates, and liberals can accept that there still is some sort of a progressive system – under the above scenario a person making $30K is payiing 7.5% while a person with an income in the millions pays nearly the full 15%.

I would STRONGLY support a flat tax that eliminated the itemized deductions for Mortgage interest, property tax and State income tax (of which we have None in the state of Washington). Why should I subsidize people’s borrowing decisions?  Why their These deductions are historical artifacts that need to be eliminated.

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While I support a flat tax, I don’t think it has a snowballs chance in hell of becoming a reality.  At least, not in a version that would benefit the majority of the taxpayers.  In reality, the economic impact of the flat tax has many opponents.  The people who prepare tax returns and tax return software vendors have a major investment in the current system.  The money they wield is a major stumbling block. IF there is a flat tax that makes it during my lifetime, I would be very surprised. I have my own ideas about such matters. 1. Eliminate the corporate income tax, reducing its pricing to a level that would remove the tax effect from the sales.  ALL business would be incorporated or have a national license to track their existence. 2.  Implement a flat tax that is withheld at the source for ALL items of taxable income.  THEN NO tax returns would have to be filed.  IF a transaction resulted in overtaxing the individual, file a return for the refund. 3.  Replace social security withholding with mandated instruments that would have a maturity at a minimum retirement age and couple an insurance policy for health to that. This would have a MAJOR impact on the economy.  SO, it would NEVER fly. Just  MHO. Jerry

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The people who prepare tax returns and tax return software vendors have a major investment in the current system.  The money they wield is a major stumbling block.

Intuit?  Microsoft?   Influencing tax legislation??  I don’t see it. There are many overfed east coast accountants who never miss a chance to make things more complex.  THEY are the problem. Another factor is the Treasury itself, who intentionally makes things complicated in order to force people to use professional tax accountants. Yes virginia they do think strategy back in Washington, the corporate campus of the US Government corporation. The topology of information is not well understood but look at software companies for example.  There is a complex product, which takes years to grow a large user-base.  Who will do all the training and support?  Users won’t pay up front, so they put in sufficient bugs and problems to ensure that legions of VARs are well fed.  Novell and WordPerfect perfected this scam. The cruddier their software became, the more VARs they had. And Microsoft is taking it to a new level. Similiarly the US government benefits from complexity in the tax code because it smokes out the cheaters, if they are not expert in tax rules, and forces the high-dollar taxpayers to use CPAs.  The US treasury will never drop into the 70’s the 60%s’ on revenue compliance, just by the simple mechanism of having an arms-length CPA involved in the tax return, because the IRS has lethal powers over CPAs and CPAs are kept so well fed they don’t need the shady customers. * Todd F. Boyle CPA    http://www.rosehill.net/EcommAcctg.htm * 9745-128th Av NE, Kirkland WA 98033       (425) 827-3107

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I’m curious to find out what people in th United States think about hte concept of a flat tax. I know the Us has hd legislation sitting in Congress for longer than it takes an elephant to produce its offspring. A very long time in itself! Are the attitudes to flat income taxes changing or is it a dead concept just put up by some elected representatives to gain some popularity with the people in their respective states? Do they really believe such a tax can work? thanks in advance for your assistance Regards Tom Tom Ravlic Freelance writer specialising in accounting and business issues PHONE:0011 61 3 9551 1878 FAX: 0011 61 3 9551 1878

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I’m curious to find out what people in th United States think about hte concept of a flat tax. I know the Us has hd legislation sitting in Congress for longer than it takes an elephant to produce its offspring. A very long time in itself! Are the attitudes to flat income taxes changing or is it a dead concept just put up by some elected representatives to gain some popularity with the people in their respective states? Do they really believe such a tax can work?

I hope there is not a broad based support for a flat tax. I believe in a progressive tax rate structure. In my opinion, those of us who are reaping the largest rewards from our economy should shoulder a larger portion of the burden of governing. Further, I don’t feel that our current federal income tax rates are overly high.  While a significant portion of my income is taxed at a marginal rate of 28%, my total federal income tax bill for 1998 was slightly less than 10% of my total income. (I am not including Soc Sec, state income tax, etc.) Politicians proposing a flat tax are capitalizing on general discontent with *complexity* of our tax code to push the idea of a flat tax. They foster the notion that the only way to achieve tax simplification is to implemet a flat tax. That is bullshit. For example, a simple progressive tax could be something like:    - Pay 0% tax on the first $30,000 of income    - Pay 10% tax on the next $30,000    - Pay 20% tax on the next $60,000    - Pay 30% tax on all remaining income No deductions, period.  No tax credits, period. (I made up all the numbers off the top of my head, They would have to be changed to make such a change "revenue neutral" with the existing tax code. But you get the idea. )

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Do I think that a flat tax can become a reality??  I doubt it.  There are too many special interests who all want self-serving breaks in the tax code.  The housing industry (and banks) will certainly fight against eliminating the mortgage interest deduction and the charities will fight against removing the charity deduction.  More importantly there are too many socialistic people (like the previous respondent) who believe in a progressive rate structure, stating those who get the largest rewards should pay higher rates (as if they won some kind of lottery).  They want to punish the successful and reward the bums laying on the sewer grates.  If a person has a new idea and/or pushes him/herself educationally and provides the jobs in the country, let’s punish them by hitting them with the higher rates.  If a person spends his/her time on welfare and contributes nothing except more mouths to feed, let’s give them the handouts and the tax breaks. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m curious to find out what people in th United States think about hte concept of a flat tax. I know the Us has hd legislation sitting in Congress for longer than it takes an elephant to produce its offspring. A very long time in itself! Are the attitudes to flat income taxes changing or is it a dead concept just put up by some elected representatives to gain some popularity with the people in their respective states? Do they really believe such a tax can work? thanks in advance for your assistance Regards Tom Tom Ravlic Freelance writer specialising in accounting and business issues PHONE:0011 61 3 9551 1878 FAX: 0011 61 3 9551 1878

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In Canada, We have a long history of rewarding failure…..which explains the brain drain to the US…….

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do I think that a flat tax can become a reality??  I doubt it.  There are too many special interests who all want self-serving breaks in the tax code.  The housing industry (and banks) will certainly fight against eliminating the mortgage interest deduction and the charities will fight against removing the charity deduction.  More importantly there are too many socialistic people (like the previous respondent) who believe in a progressive rate structure, stating those who get the largest rewards should pay higher rates (as if they won some kind of lottery).  They want to punish the successful and reward the bums laying on the sewer grates.  If a person has a new idea and/or pushes him/herself educationally and provides the jobs in the country, let’s punish them by hitting them with the higher rates.  If a person spends his/her time on welfare and contributes nothing except more mouths to feed, let’s give them the handouts and the tax breaks. I’m curious to find out what people in th United States think about hte concept of a flat tax. I know the Us has hd legislation sitting in Congress for longer than it takes an elephant to produce its offspring. A very long time in itself! Are the attitudes to flat income taxes changing or is it a dead concept just put up by some elected representatives to gain some popularity with the people in their respective states? Do they really believe such a tax can work? thanks in advance for your assistance Regards Tom Tom Ravlic Freelance writer specialising in accounting and business issues PHONE:0011 61 3 9551 1878 FAX: 0011 61 3 9551 1878

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Do I think that a flat tax can become a reality??  I doubt it.  There are too many special interests who all want self-serving breaks in the tax code.  The housing industry (and banks) will certainly fight against eliminating the mortgage interest deduction and the charities will fight against removing the charity deduction.  More importantly there are too many socialistic people (like the previous respondent) who believe in a progressive rate structure, stating those who get the largest rewards should pay higher rates (as if they won some kind of lottery).  They want to punish the successful and reward the bums laying on the sewer grates.  If a person has a new idea and/or pushes him/herself educationally and provides the jobs in the country, let’s punish them by hitting them with the higher rates.  

Rich people always overestimate their importance to society.  Steve Forbes thinks he’s so special that he shouldn’t pay any income tax at all on his "hard earned" money, while the average middle class person should pay payroll *and* income tax on their income.  His flat tax plan has as much a chance of being enacted as Bill Clinton’s likeness has showing up on Mt Rushmore. If a person spends his/her time on welfare and contributes nothing except more mouths to feed, let’s give them the handouts and the tax breaks.

Yes, I hear most people on welfare are on it for the "tax breaks".   I think a well designed flat tax could be sold to the american people if it was perceived as "fair".  How do you do that?  Well, first it’s got to cover all types of income – no exclusions for capital gains and other investment income.  Second, you establish a floor amount under which the tax doesn’t apply. I’m totally making these numbers up, but say you have a flat 15% tax rate on all income over $15,000 per person, no deductions or exceptions.  Then conservatives can feel comfortable that we’re not "punishing" success with higher tax rates, and liberals can accept that there still is some sort of a progressive system – under the above scenario a person making $30K is payiing 7.5% while a person with an income in the millions pays nearly the full 15%. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m curious to find out what people in th United States think about hte concept of a flat tax. I know the Us has hd legislation sitting in Congress for longer than it takes an elephant to produce its offspring. A very long time in itself! Are the attitudes to flat income taxes changing or is it a dead concept just put up by some elected representatives to gain some popularity with the people in their respective states? Do they really believe such a tax can work? thanks in advance for your assistance Regards Tom Tom Ravlic Freelance writer specialising in accounting and business issues PHONE:0011 61 3 9551 1878 FAX: 0011 61 3 9551 1878

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I’m looking for an accounting fraud from a buissnes firm. I want to use it in a project. Thanks for your time. Tolis

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The prisons are full of them… Do you mean that you are looking for an EXAMPLE of accounting fraud? Tim Scheidler J. T. Mudd and Associates, Inc.

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The prisons are full of them… Do you mean that you are looking for an EXAMPLE of accounting fraud? I’m looking for an accounting fraud from a business firm. I want to use it in a project. Thanks for your time.

Here are some in which I was involved. Except for a non-client, they are very old or have been part of criminal records. Soon after a company hired a new bookkeeper they found checks that seemed fraudulent. They were dated before the bookkeeper came and he denied knowledge of them. They had QuickBooks 5 so I told them to turn on the audit trail and print a report for the applicable period. It showed the checks were back dated while the bookkeeper was there and he quickly confessed. A client discovered a bookkeeper paid his home utility bills with company checks. He apologized, cried and offered to give them a second mortgage on his house for repayment. As he left, he offered to drop off the check for the current electric bill, which had the account number written on it. He did not return and a few weeks later the company got an electric cut off notice. The bookkeeper had crossed out the company account number and put in his. A very small government-funded non-profit anti-poverty agency wrote a big catering check. Days later there was an equal reimbursement. The bookkeeper first said the transaction was not in my cash-basis audit because it was reimbursed. When I insisted, she said it was a party costing (an unbudgeted) $350 a person in today’s dollars. She later said it was a mistake because the caterer wanted money right away. They normally got a bill from a furniture & equipment supplier for stuff they did not need. He gave them back half the cash for this. A property inventory was more than 80% short. The agency also used its entire auto expense budget to rent a Lincoln for the director, so it could not pay budgeted employee mileage. The district attorney dropped charges in exchange for a repayment agreement and let the director keep his job to do this. I was not allowed to do the audit the next year. A bookkeeper for a different non-profit agency got me 3 similar new clients before I started the audit of her company. She quit the day her audit started. She was writing extra paychecks and removing them form the bank statement when they came back. A director of a non-profit agency owned a gas station. There were very many high gas and repair bills. A client employee kept putting the same bills through petty cash. 20 years later one of my employee did the same thing. A company told us, at the start of an audit, we needed to write off a big invoice because the good had been returned. The audit went a planned. Later quarterly work was not audited. The company made big profits, in a time of industry recession, supposedly because their repair parts were more needed due to the recession’s slow down in new purchases. Growing receivables were mainly from many large public companies and factored. The factor later found bogus invoices more than 50% of the time, from the first one we wrote off. Each time bogus invoices went past 120 days, new bogus ones were factored to get money to repay the earlier ones. A company sold gold at less than market price, without commission, but customers had to accept delayed delivery. It said it could do so in a fluctuating market. We found inconsistencies in a week of review, so a CPA associate and I met the Board. I gave them and read a long letter about problems and consequences in terms of report language or not being able to issue a report. They promised to get us information, but did not. The company soon failed. Often photographed gold bars were painted wood. With Ponzi losses of more than $100 million, several Attorney Generals set up 800 numbers for customers. After talking to my attorney I told a State Attorney that I had been engaged to do a review and had information they would want, which they would have found anyway. We agreed that there was no client privilege because the client had tried to get me to issue fraudulent financials, which clearly voids privilege here. I was lead witness, in a trial that ended in a guilty plea, for an important reason. The owners were legally blind. Their reaction to my long letter stopped them from saying they did not know what was going on. My state CPA society later filed a complaint against me for reveling privileged information without bothering to inquire. The hearing ended with an apology from the chair saying that the CPA profession and the people of the state owed me a debt of gratitude.   Mike Block, C.P.A. Tax Fighter, QuickBooks Professional Advisor QB: The fastest & easiest way to manage your business.  Guaranteed!       biz.comp.accounting co-moderator for spam free news             NO TAX INCREASES without voter approval  954-566-7540, 275 E Oakland Park Blvd, Ft Lauderdale FL 33334

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I left one out. A taxpayer took a long time to get ready for an exam. The records provided were strange, in that they added up to each total category but not to related details. Two minutes after the exam started the agent said, "We cannot allow this." It turned out the taxpayer had raised his own checks by changing $40 to $240. Unfortunately for him, the agent notice that the amounts no longer matched the original MICR amount. It then became clear that most checks were written properly, on the left, to prevent fraud. The amounts raised, however, were initially written on the right, to facilitate the fraud. Fortunately, the agent did not pursue criminal charges.         mike block, c.p.a. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The prisons are full of them… Do you mean that you are looking for an EXAMPLE of accounting fraud? I’m looking for an accounting fraud from a business firm. I want to use it in a project. Thanks for your time. Here are some in which I was involved. Except for a non-client, they are very old or have been part of criminal records. Soon after a company hired a new bookkeeper they found checks that seemed fraudulent. They were dated before the bookkeeper came and he denied knowledge of them. They had QuickBooks 5 so I told them to turn on the audit trail and print a report for the applicable period. It showed the checks were back dated while the bookkeeper was there and he quickly confessed. A client discovered a bookkeeper paid his home utility bills with company checks. He apologized, cried and offered to give them a second mortgage on his house for repayment. As he left, he offered to drop off the check for the current electric bill, which had the account number written on it. He did not return and a few weeks later the company got an electric cut off notice. The bookkeeper had crossed out the company account number and put in his. A very small government-funded non-profit anti-poverty agency wrote a big catering check. Days later there was an equal reimbursement. The bookkeeper first said the transaction was not in my cash-basis audit because it was reimbursed. When I insisted, she said it was a party costing (an unbudgeted) $350 a person in today’s dollars. She later said it was a mistake because the caterer wanted money right away. They normally got a bill from a furniture & equipment supplier for stuff they did not need. He gave them back half the cash for this. A property inventory was more than 80% short. The agency also used its entire auto expense budget to rent a Lincoln for the director, so it could not pay budgeted employee mileage. The district attorney dropped charges in exchange for a repayment agreement and let the director keep his job to do this. I was not allowed to do the audit the next year. A bookkeeper for a different non-profit agency got me 3 similar new clients before I started the audit of her company. She quit the day her audit started. She was writing extra paychecks and removing them form the bank statement when they came back. A director of a non-profit agency owned a gas station. There were very many high gas and repair bills. A client employee kept putting the same bills through petty cash. 20 years later one of my employee did the same thing. A company told us, at the start of an audit, we needed to write off a big invoice because the good had been returned. The audit went a planned. Later quarterly work was not audited. The company made big profits, in a time of industry recession, supposedly because their repair parts were more needed due to the recession’s slow down in new purchases. Growing receivables were mainly from many large public companies and factored. The factor later found bogus invoices more than 50% of the time, from the first one we wrote off. Each time bogus invoices went past 120 days, new bogus ones were factored to get money to repay the earlier ones. A company sold gold at less than market price, without commission, but customers had to accept delayed delivery. It said it could do so in a fluctuating market. We found inconsistencies in a week of review, so a CPA associate and I met the Board. I gave them and read a long letter about problems and consequences in terms of report language or not being able to issue a report. They promised to get us information, but did not. The company soon failed. Often photographed gold bars were painted wood. With Ponzi losses of more than $100 million, several Attorney Generals set up 800 numbers for customers. After talking to my attorney I told a State Attorney that I had been engaged to do a review and had information they would want, which they would have found anyway. We agreed that there was no client privilege because the client had tried to get me to issue fraudulent financials, which clearly voids privilege here. I was lead witness, in a trial that ended in a guilty plea, for an important reason. The owners were legally blind. Their reaction to my long letter stopped them from saying they did not know what was going on. My state CPA society later filed a complaint against me for reveling privileged information without bothering to inquire. The hearing ended with an apology from the chair saying that the CPA profession and the people of the state owed me a debt of gratitude.  Mike Block, C.P.A. Tax Fighter, QuickBooks Professional Advisor QB: The fastest & easiest way to manage your business.  Guaranteed!      biz.comp.accounting co-moderator for spam free news            NO TAX INCREASES without voter approval 954-566-7540, 275 E Oakland Park Blvd, Ft Lauderdale FL 33334

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The "friend" in this story is a gentleman that I went to college with and maintained a friendship with for several years afterward.  Been to his wedding, help him with his taxes, worked on his house, etc.  Our wives were pals, we had cook outs etc.         A case I was on that nearly involved me:  A "friend" of mine started a new accounting position (Office Manager).  They had an old billing software that crapped out, they tracked expenses and payroll on spreadsheets, etc.  In other words, they needed help with their accounting software.         Due to much deliberation (without me), they decided to get Peachtree Accounting.  My "friend" recommended me as an consultant.  I went in to meet the prospects.  With success, we began setting up Peachtree.         I typically do my billing by the month.  For example, the services performed in June will be billed in July, unless otherwise specified by the client.         My first bill $600 was paid quickly under the old system.  The first, second, and third were paid under Peachtree one check for $1,300.  He came to my house and told me what he had done.  He wanted to split the extra $600.  I tried to talk him out of it without success.  I told him I would have to think about it and would let him know.  I immediately called the client.  They didn’t press charges and they did let him keep his job.  He quit a few months later without giving a two week notice (coward).         I turned him in for the following reasons:         1.  It’s wrong.         2.  I was 27 years old and not willing to risk my whole career for $300.  Odds were in my favor of getting away with it though.  The client has very little debt, so, needless to say, they don’t have much of an auditing program.         Honesty does pay.  After my "friend" left, they hired a new person who needed Peachtree training.  The client immediately called me.  I made more than the $300.   The prisons are full of them… Do you mean that you are looking for an EXAMPLE of accounting fraud? Tim Scheidler J. T. Mudd and Associates, Inc. I’m looking for an accounting fraud from a buissnes firm. I want to use it in a project. Thanks for your time. Tolis

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So Nick has quit the Catholic Church and joined the 7th day adventists. That would be like quitting the London Philharmonic and taking up the kazoo. BAM

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So Nick has quit the Catholic Church and joined the 7th day adventists. That would be like quitting the London Philharmonic and taking up the kazoo. BAM

Don’t you know the kazoo was the original 1st century musical instrument, and it was through the introduct- ion of pagan instruments like the violin and trombone and other false human inventions that perverted the simplicity of the kazoo into the false babylonian London Philharmonic Orchestra we have today. "Come out of her, my people." X3NA

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x3na says: Don’t you know the kazoo was the original 1st century musical instrument, and it was through the introduct- ion of pagan instruments like the violin and trombone and other false human inventions that perverted the simplicity of the kazoo into the false babylonian London Philharmonic Orchestra we have today.

You can’t prove that from the KJV! And if you can, I’m sure it only referred to a symbolic kazoo. BAM

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x3na says: Don’t you know the kazoo was the original 1st century musical instrument, and it was through the introduct- ion of pagan instruments like the violin and trombone and other false human inventions that perverted the simplicity of the kazoo into the false babylonian London Philharmonic Orchestra we have today. You can’t prove that from the KJV! And if you can, I’m sure it only referred to a symbolic kazoo. BAM

Typical response from a Philharmonic deceived by the whorish L.P.O.  Renounce the erroneous teachings of your Conductor and get back to the simplicity of the kazoo, given once unto the saints. X3NA

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x3na says: Typical response from a Philharmonic deceived by the whorish L.P.O.  Renounce the erroneous teachings of your Conductor and get back to the simplicity of the kazoo, given once unto the saints.

Next thing he’ll tell me that the Phrygian mode was a 16th century invention. BAMJ

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<<<<<<<Articles Updated 2-1-98 It is time to make a choice people! Will it be the SEAL of God? Or the MARK of the BEAST?

It’s time to make a choice people! Will you believe what scripture says that we are saved by faith and not by the law, and continue to worship God in faith? (See Romans 3:9-30, Romans 7:1-4, Romans 10:4 and Galatians 3:10) Or are you going to follow a false gospel that says that we *must* keep the legalistic sabbath law in order to be saved? Which is it?  Yoked to the law, or faith in Jesus? Cheers! -eric

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So Nick has quit the Catholic Church and joined the 7th day adventists. That would be like quitting the London Philharmonic and taking up the kazoo. BAM

Another LIE. I DID leave the Catholic church. But I am not a SDA. It seems ALL your facts are like this Brian. "Hearsay" "THE SECOND WINDOW"..Concrete evidence linking Catholicism to the Beast! "PEOPLE GET READY"…Prophecies YOU never knew were ALREADY fulfilled! All downloads are ABSOLUTELY FREE!!! & Written in a loving way. "A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city…" Pro.18:19 Truth is truth….Nicholas — 0