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I use and have been using myob for 5 years and can help you out anyway possible as far as the tax table you can input them manually and i find the program very to work with rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you are in Canada I offer these 2 questions: 1) Do you intend to run payroll? 2) Are you anticipating technicial problems (eg. running on XP or other equally unstable/unfriendly configuration of Windoze)? 1) If no, then I might suggest it. If yes, there currently is no support or payroll tax table updates from MYOB for the Canadian version. However, there are third party software companies providing tax tables for a reasonable rate. 2) Since Intwit bought MYOB Canada, there is no longer technical support. However, there are several forums and you CAN get a pretty fast response. That being said, I prefer QuickBooks for many reasons. Cost of their services is NOT one of them. Technical support and payroll tax table updates are expensive.

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2) Since Intwit bought MYOB Canada, there is no longer technical support. However, there are several forums and you CAN get a pretty fast response.

Hi! I am an MYOB user in Canada and would like to gain access to these forums. Would you please post their URLs for us, please. BTW, I bought QuickBooks Pro 2001 when they offered free credit card merchant accounts. After evaluating the product for a month or so, I tossed it on the shelf and went back to MYOB. Even though my background is in accounting, I find it to be much more intuitive than QuickBooks. At least I got to write of the wasted $300~ that I spent on QB. Roberta

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 2) Since Intwit bought MYOB Canada, there is no longer technical support. However, there are several forums and you CAN get a pretty fast response. Hi! I am an MYOB user in Canada and would like to gain access to these forums. Would you please post their URLs for us, please. BTW, I bought QuickBooks Pro 2001 when they offered free credit card merchant accounts. After evaluating the product for a month or so, I tossed it on the shelf and went back to MYOB. Even though my background is in accounting, I find it to be much more intuitive than QuickBooks. At least I got to write of the wasted $300~ that I spent on QB. Roberta

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Try out www.smartgroups.com, there is an MYOB forum there. Sign up and you can either receive emails or login and read web-based. — Stephanie Serba, AICIA Partner, Accounting & Technology Durham Business Outsource www.dbo.ca

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 2) Since Intwit bought MYOB Canada, there is no longer technical support. However, there are several forums and you CAN get a pretty fast response. Hi! I am an MYOB user in Canada and would like to gain access to these forums. Would you please post their URLs for us, please. BTW, I bought QuickBooks Pro 2001 when they offered free credit card merchant accounts. After evaluating the product for a month or so, I tossed it on the shelf and went back to MYOB. Even though my background is in accounting, I find it to be much more intuitive than QuickBooks. At least I got to write of the wasted $300~ that I spent on QB. Roberta

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Thanks, Steph! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Try out www.smartgroups.com, there is an MYOB forum there. Sign up and you can either receive emails or login and read web-based.

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Can people please provide an opinion if they have used or are currently using MYOB Business Basics software. I am looking at purchasing it shortly, Regards Brendon

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Sorry if this is the wrong group, should I post elsewhere, or will this suffice? Brendon

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can people please provide an opinion if they have used or are currently using MYOB Business Basics software. I am looking at purchasing it shortly, Regards Brendon

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Can people please provide an opinion if they have used or are currently using MYOB Business Basics software. I am looking at purchasing it shortly,

I use it, I like it better than Quickbooks which gives me the blue screen of deatth.   Doesn’t handle discounts or credit memos well.   To send me e-mail exorcise NO Spam from my e-mail address.     —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I will be running a Web Design company, so there should be no real issues with discounts, or credits….hopefully. REgards Brendon

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can people please provide an opinion if they have used or are currently using MYOB Business Basics software. I am looking at purchasing it shortly, I use it, I like it better than Quickbooks which gives me the blue screen of deatth. Doesn’t handle discounts or credit memos well. To send me e-mail exorcise NO Spam from my e-mail address. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Can people please provide an opinion if they have used or are currently using MYOB Business Basics software. I am looking at purchasing it shortly, I use it, I like it better than Quickbooks which gives me the blue screen of deatth.   Doesn’t handle discounts or credit memos well.  

But 88% of small business computer accounting program users prefer QuickBooks. I do not recall a blue screen with QB since W95. Today it almost never crashes and may not have frozen a computer in years.

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I will be running a Web Design company, so there should be no real issues with discounts, or credits….hopefully.

You’ve got no vendors who offer discount terms for early payment?   You never have vendors who issue credit memos? To send me e-mail exorcise NO Spam from my e-mail address.     —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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But 88% of small business computer accounting program users prefer QuickBooks. I do not recall a blue screen with QB since W95. Today it almost never crashes and may not have frozen a computer in years.

Well I get the blue screen often in Quickbooks but never get it in MYOB.   I’ve never gotten Intit to explain what causes the Blue screen of death.   To send me e-mail exorcise NO Spam from my e-mail address.     —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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If you are in Canada I offer these 2 questions: 1) Do you intend to run payroll? 2) Are you anticipating technicial problems (eg. running on XP or other equally unstable/unfriendly configuration of Windoze)? 1) If no, then I might suggest it. If yes, there currently is no support or payroll tax table updates from MYOB for the Canadian version. However, there are third party software companies providing tax tables for a reasonable rate. 2) Since Intwit bought MYOB Canada, there is no longer technical support. However, there are several forums and you CAN get a pretty fast response. That being said, I prefer QuickBooks for many reasons. Cost of their services is NOT one of them. Technical support and payroll tax table updates are expensive. — Stephanie Serba, AICIA Partner, Durham Business Outsource Accounting & Technology www.dbo.ca

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can people please provide an opinion if they have used or are currently using MYOB Business Basics software. I am looking at purchasing it shortly, Regards Brendon

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I will be running a Web Design company, so there should be no real issues with discounts, or credits….hopefully.

No, but there may be a big issue with having clients pay on the web, with automatic entry into your accouting program. There may be 50 add-on programs for this, with many more being added rapidly. There also are integral and add-ons that track time and turn it into invoices and others that link scanned documents to QB transactions. There are about 300 such programs, with a very wide range of functions, at http://www.marketplace.intuit.com/ and 600+ at http://www.quickbooks-add-ons.com/ Programs like this increasingly let us quickly and easily never enter data twice, reduce errors, speed results and better manage our small businesses. Very few QB competitors are at all likely to ever provide this very increasingly broad range of integrated add-on capability. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -REgards Brendon Can people please provide an opinion if they have used or are currently using MYOB Business Basics software. I am looking at purchasing it shortly, I use it, I like it better than Quickbooks which gives me the blue screen of deatth. Doesn’t handle discounts or credit memos well. To send me e-mail exorcise NO Spam from my e-mail address. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I am looking to find a hearing aid for my mother. I am appalled at the cost of hearing aids. Where can I find reasonably priced (aka cheap) hearing aids?

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Shop around before you buy any hearing aid, but the good ones aren’t cheap. Check out some different audiologists, and get estimates.  Does she need two, or only one?  Cost is also affected by the type of aid you buy (behind-the-ear, in-the-canal, etc.) But then, what kind of price tag have you put on your Mothers hearing?  It may be expensive, but in the end, it’s worth it. ST. "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Hearing aids are like anything else Al, you get what you pay for. "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:akdmqf$h7$1@plonk.apk.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am looking to find a hearing aid for my mother. > I am appalled at the cost of hearing aids. > Where can I find reasonably priced (aka cheap) hearing aids?

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I don’t think so.  I think you get much less. I am a mechanical engineer who happened to take Electronics I from the electrical engineering  department when I was in school.  I had no interest in hearing aids at the time, but about 10 years ago for some reason I actually read an ad for a hearing aid in the local newspaper.  I was shocked at the price. Some months later I happened to be at the old alma mater and bumped into the Electronics I prof.  I said to him "I can’t see how an analog hearing aid could possible cost more than $25."  He said, "No, you’re wrong (again).  They shouldn’t cost more that $5." One can buy an entire notebook computer for less that $1000 which has many times the computing power of even the most powerful digital hearing aid plus a LCD Screen, Hard Drive, Large Battery, CD ROM, Floppy Drive and about $100 to Gate$ — all of which hearing aids, of course, don’t need. I think older people are really being taken by the hearing aid industry. I would really like to see a justification of the prices they charge. Go ahead. Make my day. "maree" <mare…@bigpond.com> wrote in message

news:CNEa9.16062$g9.50518@newsfeeds.bigpond.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hearing aids are like anything else Al, you get what you pay for. > "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:akdmqf$h7$1@plonk.apk.net… > > I am looking to find a hearing aid for my mother. > > I am appalled at the cost of hearing aids. > > Where can I find reasonably priced (aka cheap) hearing aids?

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"Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message <news:akdmqf$h7$1@plonk.apk.net>… > I am looking to find a hearing aid for my mother. > I am appalled at the cost of hearing aids. > Where can I find reasonably priced (aka cheap) hearing aids?

Try www.hearingplanet.com.  Such services will yield discounts of around 30% on national brand HAs from a local dispenser. Mike McC

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> One can buy an entire notebook computer for less that $1000 which has many > times the computing power > of even the most powerful digital hearing aid plus a LCD Screen, Hard Drive, > Large Battery, CD ROM, > Floppy Drive and about $100 to Gate$ — all of which hearing aids, of > course, don’t need. > I think older people are really being taken by the hearing aid industry. > I would really like to see a justification of the prices they charge.

They say that it’s because hearing aids aren’t mass market.  There are more people in the world using computers, and much less that need hearing aids. The more you sell, the cheaper the price can be.  The lower your client base, the more expensive the product.  I don’t know if that’s right or not, but that is how it’s been explained to me. Unfortunately, I’m an addict.  But my addiction isn’t smoking or drugs,….. it’s HEARING.  I’m addicted to it.  So if I have to pay more for a decent set of aids that won’t break down every week, I’ll gladly do it!  I paid $2000 CAN for my aids 5 years ago, and they have only been in for repairs once!  Right now, I’m hoping the price of digitals will drop so I can upgrade my analogues. I look at it as an investment.  I’ve paid more in the past for my car, computer, etc. Do I think that the price should be lower?…… of course I do!  But right now, hearing aids are expensive.  So, ……I’ll pay whatever they want for a decent hearing aid. Am I being taken?….. maybe so, but I don’t really care.  When I can actually hear my kids call me Daddy,….. that’s ALL I care about! ST.

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Thanks, but the prices are outrageous.  Price Range $607 – $1295 Something really has to be done about this.  Somebody is getting a 1000% mark-up. "Mike McC" <sprts…@conpoint.com> wrote in message

news:40d2438a.0208270714.674a3d9e@posting.google.com… > "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

<news:akdmqf$h7$1@plonk.apk.net>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I am looking to find a hearing aid for my mother. > > I am appalled at the cost of hearing aids. > > Where can I find reasonably priced (aka cheap) hearing aids? > Try www.hearingplanet.com.  Such services will yield discounts of > around 30% on national brand HAs from a local dispenser. > Mike McC

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"Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:akgbv1$ehr$1@plonk.apk.net… > Thanks, but the prices are outrageous.  Price Range $607 – $1295 > Something really has to be done about this.

What do you suggest? Mark Twain said everybody talks about the weather but nobody does anything about it. Why don’t you do something about hearing aid prices? Michael

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Of course these are all concerns raised and debated many times but if you could make a good hearing aid yourself for $5 worth of materials, you would be doing it just as I would. In the case of your mother, I would suggest contacting a elder care home or nursing home nearby and ask who does the hearing aid services for their patients.  Sometimes dispensers have returned BTEs that they can sell for a lower price because they are "used" and the manufacturer can’t or won’t take it back for whatever reason.  Many of these aids have only been used for a few months and will be available for a lower price, but you are still going to get what you consider a huge "mark up" in terms of cost of the parts vs the cost of the aid. When you compare the aid to a computer, I remember reading a thread on the board where someone pointed out that you can’t wear a notebook computer to hear better.  There’s no point in cursing the darkness when your goal is to help your mother anyway. Terri On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:49:44 -0400, "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I don’t think so.  I think you get much less. >I am a mechanical engineer who happened to take Electronics I from the >electrical engineering  department >when I was in school.  I had no interest in hearing aids at the time, but >about 10 years ago for some >reason I actually read an ad for a hearing aid in the local newspaper.  I >was shocked at the price. >Some months later I happened to be at the old alma mater and bumped into the >Electronics I prof.  I said to >him "I can’t see how an analog hearing aid could possible cost more than >$25."  He said, "No, you’re >wrong (again).  They shouldn’t cost more that $5." >One can buy an entire notebook computer for less that $1000 which has many >times the computing power >of even the most powerful digital hearing aid plus a LCD Screen, Hard Drive, >Large Battery, CD ROM, >Floppy Drive and about $100 to Gate$ — all of which hearing aids, of >course, don’t need. >I think older people are really being taken by the hearing aid industry. >I would really like to see a justification of the prices they charge. >Go ahead. Make my day. >"maree" <mare…@bigpond.com> wrote in message >news:CNEa9.16062$g9.50518@newsfeeds.bigpond.com… >> Hearing aids are like anything else Al, you get what you pay for. >> "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:akdmqf$h7$1@plonk.apk.net… >> > I am looking to find a hearing aid for my mother. >> > I am appalled at the cost of hearing aids. >> > Where can I find reasonably priced (aka cheap) hearing aids?

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Unfortunately, I have a bunch of irons in the fire.  If I found a couple of guys to help, I would. "occam" <oc…@fish.net> wrote in message

news:nESa9.19321$Or1.1094639@news2.east.cox.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:akgbv1$ehr$1@plonk.apk.net… > > Thanks, but the prices are outrageous.  Price Range $607 – $1295 > > Something really has to be done about this. > What do you suggest? Mark Twain said everybody talks about the weather but > nobody does anything about it. > Why don’t you do something about hearing aid prices? > Michael

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<terri231> wrote in message news:3d6bfecd.2387888@news.starnetinc.com… > Of course these are all concerns raised and debated many times but if > you could make a good hearing aid yourself for $5 worth of materials,

That was 10 – 15 years ago.  It would probably be $15 now. > you would be doing it just as I would.

I don’t have the time and I don’t have the contacts in the Far East. > In the case of your mother, I would suggest contacting a elder care > home or nursing home nearby and ask who does the hearing aid services > for their patients.  Sometimes dispensers have returned BTEs that they > can sell for a lower price because they are "used" and the > manufacturer can’t or won’t take it back for whatever reason.  Many of > these aids have only been used for a few months and will be available > for a lower price, but you are still going to get what you consider a > huge "mark up" in terms of cost of the parts vs the cost of the aid.

I think that is correct — a huge mark-up. I think it is dispicable. Here is another example of the mega-rip-off that hearing aids are. http://www.songbirdhearing.com/consumer/solution.asp At the above site they have a rip-off that is only a minor rip-off. They have a modern hearing aid with digital circuitry that is selling at $80 — only 2 to 3 times a reasonable price instead of the more tyipical 50 times. Great, right?  Well, there is a rip-off catch to this one, too.  The battery lasts for 70 days, the you THROW THE WHOLE THING AWAY. This establishes that an modern digital hearing aid can be manufactured and sold for less than the rip-off prices of many hundreds to thousands of dollars. People that prey on the elderly ought to go to jail as, finally, some of the nation’s CEOs will. > When you compare the aid to a computer, I remember reading a thread on > the board where someone pointed out that you can’t wear a notebook > computer to hear better.  There’s no point in cursing the darkness > when your goal is to help your mother anyway.

That was an analogy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Terri > On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:49:44 -0400, "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >I don’t think so.  I think you get much less. > >I am a mechanical engineer who happened to take Electronics I from the > >electrical engineering  department > >when I was in school.  I had no interest in hearing aids at the time, but > >about 10 years ago for some > >reason I actually read an ad for a hearing aid in the local newspaper.  I > >was shocked at the price. > >Some months later I happened to be at the old alma mater and bumped into the > >Electronics I prof.  I said to > >him "I can’t see how an analog hearing aid could possible cost more than > >$25."  He said, "No, you’re > >wrong (again).  They shouldn’t cost more that $5." > >One can buy an entire notebook computer for less that $1000 which has many > >times the computing power > >of even the most powerful digital hearing aid plus a LCD Screen, Hard Drive, > >Large Battery, CD ROM, > >Floppy Drive and about $100 to Gate$ — all of which hearing aids, of > >course, don’t need. > >I think older people are really being taken by the hearing aid industry. > >I would really like to see a justification of the prices they charge. > >Go ahead. Make my day. > >"maree" <mare…@bigpond.com> wrote in message > >news:CNEa9.16062$g9.50518@newsfeeds.bigpond.com… > >> Hearing aids are like anything else Al, you get what you pay for. > >> "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >> news:akdmqf$h7$1@plonk.apk.net… > >> > I am looking to find a hearing aid for my mother. > >> > I am appalled at the cost of hearing aids. > >> > Where can I find reasonably priced (aka cheap) hearing aids?

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As viewed from this (technically-oriented) consumer’s perspective, hearing aid prices are not unreasonable: There’s rapid technological evolution in the industry, and the cost of each stage of development must be amortized across the product life of that specific design. Engineering costs are among the highest cost factors in determining an aid-maker’s expenses. Actual production cost of a good digital aid is under $100. Add to that all burdens and overheads, including professional (legal, accounting) fees, marketing and market communication, packaging, etc. Also factor in the return percentage, which is probably 25%, and warranty repair costs. The unit is then sold to the audiologist for $1,100 – and to the consumer that keeps it for about $3,000. To dispense that aid, the audiologist must advertise, speak to about two potential clients for each audiological workup, perform the workups, and sell to about half of those who get that far. Earmolds are in there somewhere, too… All those costs must be absorbed by the successful transactions. My audiologist gave me some of the numbers and insights. Her practice is successful, with a lower-than-average return rate and a higher-than-average sales rate, and she operates at an overall GROSS MARGIN of about 50%. That is, her cost of a $3,000 sale is about $1,500, after which she must pay all office labor, advertising, rent, utilities, liability insurance, other overheads, depreciation of $250k in test equipment, etc. And, she must include after-sale service, such as tweaking visits, repairs, etc. As I saw it, her NET PROFIT BEFORE TAX averages about $500 on a $3,000 transaction, or a bit under 17%. Figuring 260 days and one new sale per day, that’s $130k annual profit – which flows directly to her because she’s a Sub-S corporation so it’s taxed only once. Does $130k sound like a lot to you? She has a master’s in audiology plus 20 years of experience. I understand that she worked for a salary for another audiologist her first five years, starved for the next five years, and only in the last decade has she enjoyed "success." Her competitor down the street is a non-audiologist dispenser, with a high school diploma and a sign that says DISCOUNT HEARING AIDS. He also wears a white coat, and undercuts her price by 10%. Back to the issue: What’s it worth to you and your mother for her to HEAR!?!?! END OF RANT <<<<jmarsince2.at.yahoo>>>>

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Of course. That’s why they cost what they do. Nobody can actually make any money at it with a low price, so they don’t try. If hearing aid prices dropped by 50%, there would be no one to fit them. Then you’d be crying about the time you have to spend sitting in the lobby while the goverment dispenser goes out to have her nails done, after you waited for an appointment for months. Most people get what they pay for. Michael "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:akh7ut$sap$1@plonk.apk.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Unfortunately, I have a bunch of irons in the fire.  If I found a couple of > guys to help, I would. > "occam" <oc…@fish.net> wrote in message > news:nESa9.19321$Or1.1094639@news2.east.cox.net… > > "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:akgbv1$ehr$1@plonk.apk.net… > > > Thanks, but the prices are outrageous.  Price Range $607 – $1295 > > > Something really has to be done about this. > > What do you suggest? Mark Twain said everybody talks about the weather but > > nobody does anything about it. > > Why don’t you do something about hearing aid prices? > > Michael

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In the U.S., there are factors that do not apply in some other areas. For example, Russia may be treated as an "incremental market." That is, the cost of corporate management, product development, engineering, product liability insurance, facility overheads, etc. etc. may not be allocated to products shipped to a distributor there. That distributor may not permit returns. And, once you factor in lower Russian labor costs, the end-user price drops precipitously. The trick is to figure out a way to take advantage of that pricing structure. Surely the Russian distributor’s contract prohibits shipping outside that country. And, once you have such aids in your hands, how do you program them? Get an earmold? Get service? I’ll (painfully) pay the price for the red/white/blue edition.

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Steve B. wrote: > I said: > > I’m a MA user… > That should have read "HA user…

Thanks for clearing that up. I just got my first hearing aid a week ago(an auroa950) .I was wondering what a MA was. > Steve  = : ^ ) > — > Not my real email address of course but true all the same. Reply to > the newsgroup, please.

– Quote of the month It’s not paranoia. It’s fear and you should be afraid, because some very bad people are out to get us. One of Sarges’ rules for a better life.

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I have had success with a Russian company www.melfon.com I got a pair of Oticon Ergo aids, programmed, for US$554 total. Considering I was quoted US$800+  *each* here in Australia, I got them at about 1/3 the price of locally. Cheers A "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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I said: > I’m a MA user…

That should have read "HA user… Steve  = : ^ ) — Not my real email address of course but true all the same. Reply to the newsgroup, please.

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Al Smith said: > Some months later I happened to be at the old alma mater and bumped into the > Electronics I prof.  I said to > him "I can’t see how an analog hearing aid could possible cost more than > $25."  He said, "No, you’re > wrong (again).  They shouldn’t cost more that $5." > One can buy an entire notebook computer for less that $1000 which has many > times the computing power > of even the most powerful digital hearing aid plus a LCD Screen, Hard Drive, > Large Battery, CD ROM, > Floppy Drive and about $100 to Gate$ — all of which hearing aids, of > course, don’t need.

Would it cost more to make a PC if it had to fit in your ear? Would the components be more expensive? The construction more difficult? I’m a MA user and was amazed at what my Siemens Prisma CIC aids could do in such an incredibly small package. Steve  = : ^ ) — Not my real email address of course but true all the same. Reply to the newsgroup, please.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Zaf wrote: >Of even cheaper, the ~$50 or so contraption sold at radio shack, it >even comes with a 5 (?) band equalizer!!! >If you had a bad heart valve would you be shopping for the lowest >price on this too? >OOR…@USMC.net wrote in message <news:3D6C4560.B3571408@san.rr.com>… >>You think $607-1295 is "outrageous?" Those numbers are at the bottom of the >>scale, and describe analog solutions. >>Okay… here’s a low$$ solution: buy the Songbird. Then buy it again. And >>again. >>Or, enroll your mother in a speechreading course. >>. >><<<<jmarsince2.at.yahoo>>>>

Of course, there are disposable hearing aids on the market. Songbird makes them. They are cheap, one or at least a couple of sizes to fit all, but they work, just not as well. You can buy them in the pharmacy at Sam’s clubs in some Texas stores. They are the future. Are they good? You decide, but they are cheap, at first. But after they wear out after a month or two, you must buy another and so on. I do think heraring aids are priced way too high. I would rather pay an audiologist for their professional fitting time and then pay a realistic fee for the hearing aid. That way you can monitor the cost better. Less markup can be hidden. Will it happen any time soon. Maybe when the baby boomers accept that they need  hearing aids and start to pressure to bring the cost down where most folks can afford themt. I think the technology will get better too. The feedback issue is still out there big time. Anyway, some thoughts.

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And this response explains everything. — Howard N. Gutnick, Ph.D. Atlantic Coast Ear Specialists, P.C. doct…@earaces.com www.earaces.com <tlsh…@concentric.net> wrote in message

news:cu2qmuk9doui3vq2j8hipdgvbcr4cqp239@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 02:13:57 GMT, OOR…@USMC.net took a very strange > color crayon and scribbled: > >Does $130k sound like a lot to you? She has a master’s in audiology plus 20 > >years of experience. I understand that she worked for a salary for another > >audiologist her first five years, starved for the next five years, and only in > >the last decade has she enjoyed "success." > Yeah, $130K sounds like a lot to me. It’s more than 6 times what I’ve > ever made, and I don’t care how much education she has, no one should > make that much, that’s why we have such a huge divide between a few > rich people and everybody else. But then, I’m a socialist at heart. > — > Therese Shellabarger / The Roving Reporter – Civis Mundi > tlsh…@concentric.net / http://www.concentric.net/~tlshell

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On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 02:13:57 GMT, OOR…@USMC.net took a very strange color crayon and scribbled: >Does $130k sound like a lot to you? She has a master’s in audiology plus 20 >years of experience. I understand that she worked for a salary for another >audiologist her first five years, starved for the next five years, and only in >the last decade has she enjoyed "success."

Yeah, $130K sounds like a lot to me. It’s more than 6 times what I’ve ever made, and I don’t care how much education she has, no one should make that much, that’s why we have such a huge divide between a few rich people and everybody else. But then, I’m a socialist at heart. — Therese Shellabarger / The Roving Reporter – Civis Mundi tlsh…@concentric.net     / http://www.concentric.net/~tlshell

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Mr. Smith, Ok, you’ve been able to buy the components of the hearing aid for about $25. Now would you please be so kind as to outline the additional costs you would expect to incur to go from a circuit board design to a real product that your mother could and would wear. I’d appreciate it if you could be as detailed as possible in this mental exercise. Thanks — Howard N. Gutnick, Ph.D. Atlantic Coast Ear Specialists, P.C. doct…@earaces.com www.earaces.com "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:akg3iu$ab2$1@plonk.apk.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I don’t think so.  I think you get much less. > I am a mechanical engineer who happened to take Electronics I from the > electrical engineering  department > when I was in school.  I had no interest in hearing aids at the time, but > about 10 years ago for some > reason I actually read an ad for a hearing aid in the local newspaper.  I > was shocked at the price. > Some months later I happened to be at the old alma mater and bumped into the > Electronics I prof.  I said to > him "I can’t see how an analog hearing aid could possible cost more than > $25."  He said, "No, you’re > wrong (again).  They shouldn’t cost more that $5." > One can buy an entire notebook computer for less that $1000 which has many > times the computing power > of even the most powerful digital hearing aid plus a LCD Screen, Hard Drive, > Large Battery, CD ROM, > Floppy Drive and about $100 to Gate$ — all of which hearing aids, of > course, don’t need. > I think older people are really being taken by the hearing aid industry. > I would really like to see a justification of the prices they charge. > Go ahead. Make my day. > "maree" <mare…@bigpond.com> wrote in message > news:CNEa9.16062$g9.50518@newsfeeds.bigpond.com… > > Hearing aids are like anything else Al, you get what you pay for. > > "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:akdmqf$h7$1@plonk.apk.net… > > > I am looking to find a hearing aid for my mother. > > > I am appalled at the cost of hearing aids. > > > Where can I find reasonably priced (aka cheap) hearing aids?

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Of even cheaper, the ~$50 or so contraption sold at radio shack, it even comes with a 5 (?) band equalizer!!! If you had a bad heart valve would you be shopping for the lowest price on this too? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -OOR…@USMC.net wrote in message <news:3D6C4560.B3571408@san.rr.com>… > You think $607-1295 is "outrageous?" Those numbers are at the bottom of the > scale, and describe analog solutions. > Okay… here’s a low$$ solution: buy the Songbird. Then buy it again. And > again. > Or, enroll your mother in a speechreading course. > . > <<<<jmarsince2.at.yahoo>>>>

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You think $607-1295 is "outrageous?" Those numbers are at the bottom of the scale, and describe analog solutions. Okay… here’s a low$$ solution: buy the Songbird. Then buy it again. And again. Or, enroll your mother in a speechreading course. . <<<<jmarsince2.at.yahoo>>>>

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I wish you luck in find a suitable solution for your mother. Terri On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:29:15 -0400, "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -><terri231> wrote in message news:3d6bfecd.2387888@news.starnetinc.com… >> Of course these are all concerns raised and debated many times but if >> you could make a good hearing aid yourself for $5 worth of materials, >That was 10 – 15 years ago.  It would probably be $15 now. >> you would be doing it just as I would. >I don’t have the time and I don’t have the contacts in the Far East. >> In the case of your mother, I would suggest contacting a elder care >> home or nursing home nearby and ask who does the hearing aid services >> for their patients.  Sometimes dispensers have returned BTEs that they >> can sell for a lower price because they are "used" and the >> manufacturer can’t or won’t take it back for whatever reason.  Many of >> these aids have only been used for a few months and will be available >> for a lower price, but you are still going to get what you consider a >> huge "mark up" in terms of cost of the parts vs the cost of the aid. >I think that is correct — a huge mark-up. >I think it is dispicable. >Here is another example of the mega-rip-off that hearing aids are. >http://www.songbirdhearing.com/consumer/solution.asp >At the above site they have a rip-off that is only a minor rip-off. >They have a modern hearing aid with digital circuitry that is >selling at $80 — only 2 to 3 times a reasonable price >instead of the more tyipical 50 times. >Great, right?  Well, there is a rip-off catch to this one, too.  The battery >lasts >for 70 days, the you THROW THE WHOLE THING AWAY. >This establishes that an modern digital hearing aid can be manufactured >and sold for less than the rip-off prices of many hundreds to thousands of >dollars. >People that prey on the elderly ought to go to jail as, finally, some of >the nation’s CEOs will. >> When you compare the aid to a computer, I remember reading a thread on >> the board where someone pointed out that you can’t wear a notebook >> computer to hear better.  There’s no point in cursing the darkness >> when your goal is to help your mother anyway. >That was an analogy. >> Terri >> On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:49:44 -0400, "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >I don’t think so.  I think you get much less. >> >I am a mechanical engineer who happened to take Electronics I from the >> >electrical engineering  department >> >when I was in school.  I had no interest in hearing aids at the time, but >> >about 10 years ago for some >> >reason I actually read an ad for a hearing aid in the local newspaper.  I >> >was shocked at the price. >> >Some months later I happened to be at the old alma mater and bumped into >the >> >Electronics I prof.  I said to >> >him "I can’t see how an analog hearing aid could possible cost more than >> >$25."  He said, "No, you’re >> >wrong (again).  They shouldn’t cost more that $5." >> >One can buy an entire notebook computer for less that $1000 which has >many >> >times the computing power >> >of even the most powerful digital hearing aid plus a LCD Screen, Hard >Drive, >> >Large Battery, CD ROM, >> >Floppy Drive and about $100 to Gate$ — all of which hearing aids, of >> >course, don’t need. >> >I think older people are really being taken by the hearing aid industry. >> >I would really like to see a justification of the prices they charge. >> >Go ahead. Make my day. >> >"maree" <mare…@bigpond.com> wrote in message >> >news:CNEa9.16062$g9.50518@newsfeeds.bigpond.com… >> >> Hearing aids are like anything else Al, you get what you pay for. >> >> "Al Smith" <ecare…@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:akdmqf$h7$1@plonk.apk.net… >> >> > I am looking to find a hearing aid for my mother. >> >> > I am appalled at the cost of hearing aids. >> >> > Where can I find reasonably priced (aka cheap) hearing aids?

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New Hampshire?  If so have you noticed that they have a property tax that will knock your socks off.

Tennessee – Sales tax is well more than double than here. As far as I know, they have no Personal Property Taxes either, leastwise not on cars, but the license plates are quite high. Here is something else interesting, where I currently live, we can choose for example the trash collection service we use and pay them directly.  Needless to say, competition keeps the price down, we pay around 35 dollars per quarter for twice a week trash pickup. The adjoining city had the same deal until only a couple of years ago, when the city decided to contract for trash service.  Their taxes were increased by 256 dollars to cover this ‘now free’ service.  Duh, they are now paying over 60 dollars per quarter for trash pickup and they cannot pick and choose which company they want.  Seems most cities have gone this route of price gouging their citizens by charging double or triple the actual cost. In a city of only 25,000 families, that’s an increase in revenues to the city of well over 1/2 million dollars for them to waste on more unnecessary governmental offices.  Afterall, they now need to keep track of their collections and expenditures for trash service at costs a hundred times over the costs the trash companies ever incurred to provide the same accounting records. Gary

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 I was quite surprised to find out the state my new spouse was born and raised in still does not have an income tax.

New Hampshire?  If so have you noticed that they have a property tax that will knock your socks off. "It’s God’s job to sort out what to do with terrorists.    It’s our job to deliver them to God. " I’m allergic to spam. Remove "No Spam" from my e-mail address to respond. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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An I wouldn’t touch it with your pole <g Thanks. I really do need that pole <g.

Ok.  Enough is enough.  I’m part Polish and I resemble that remark. — Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia http://www.pat-cpa.com

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Hi Chris The IRS is only concerned with collecting tax from sources of your income, which is only a small portion of the taxes we pay each year. Although I complain the loudest about the myrad of taxes without a source of income to cover them that we do pay, tax on income I have never complained about, the government has to run somehow.  I was quite surprised to find out the state my new spouse was born and raised in still does not have an income tax. Personally, I think all taxes not backed by a source of income to pay them should be abolished.  Especially taxes like personal property, real estate and all excise taxes.  Afterall, you paid tax on the income used to purchase these items, you then payed sales tax using the money that was already once taxed when you purchased them, etc. Taxation without income to pay the tax is stealing.  The governments intent is to steal your home, your car, and your land, right out from under you.  The Constitution says we shall not pay tax upon tax. Which should have read quite broader, we should not be retaxed on the money we already paid tax on.  But we all know the sly little folks in Washington DC understand that to mean we shall not be taxed upon the tax we paid, duh.  Was that the intent of our forefathers?  What was the Boston Tea Party all about anyhow?  Taxation on assets, or actually taxation on inventory, in this case a shipment of tea. TTUL Gary

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The address is hotmail and the posting host Shaw Cable Alberta Canada.

That would indicate that it wouldn’t be Inland Revenue or Internal Revenue that would be interested, but rather the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency. The notion that the guy’s posting from Alberta isn’t terribly remarkable.  A lot of the "anti-tax nuts" movements in Canada are based in Alberta; it kind of gets the same rap in Canada as Montana does south of the border, being Very Cold in the winter, and, being distant from the national capitals (e.g. – Washington, DC, or Ottawa, Ontario), these places have more than average amounts of this sort of "dissent." CCRA doesn’t have nearly the set of "police powers" that the IRS does, so those that dissent don’t seem to have the fear that seems common in the US… — http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/lisp.html Microsoft: The Scientology of Computing

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An I wouldn’t touch it with your pole <g

Thanks. I really do need that pole <g. — Jim Hudspeth, CFE, CPA   http://survivalworks.com

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Then suddenly, the tenant said he will not allow me to buy it due to insufficident credit. Its probably because my salary for the past few years have been in Cash.  Yes pure cash and I haven’t done any of reporting tax because I wasn’t paid in cheque.  Its probably that they think I dont have the ability to pay the rent?  

I assume you explained this to the land owner.  You ran into a cultural difference.  In civilized worlds people don’t really all cheat on their taxes.  In fact, the only ones who say, ‘oh, everybody does it’ are actually the only ones that do.  The land owner may not like you and may not want you around. I live in a house and i own it.  Its worth $400,000, and I have a car worth $20,000, and some bonds, RRSP, etc. no stocks though. I’ve got pretty much asset, over $450,000,  so why wouldn’t he let me do it?

Well, you left off a huge liability: everything you own is about to be siezed by the Revenue Agents.  Your only hope is to get a good tax attorney and come forward willingly – then MAYBE you can save yourself from being thrown in jail. Perhaps you’ll eventually learn that you have to pay taxes not because someone is MAKING you, but because that’s the deal in your country.  You get roads, a ready market, an educated work-force, no invading armies, a stable currency, etc. etc. and in exchange for this infrastructure you (yes, YOU) pay taxes.   I know too many good people who really struggle to pay their taxes to have any patience for the people who think the rules don’t apply to them. Wendy Marsden, CPA & EA in MA

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Hi Malni Why not agree with the tenant to place on deposit in his/her name a trust fund that pays them the monthly rent and you the interest for the first year.  Or, make a deposit for less than 5 years rent that the interest earned will bring it up to the correct amount by the time the last payment of rent is due. I assume you are in the UK using the word Tenant for the land Owner. TTUL Gary

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The address is hotmail and the posting host Shaw Cable Alberta Canada. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Malni Why not agree with the tenant to place on deposit in his/her name a trust fund that pays them the monthly rent and you the interest for the first year.  Or, make a deposit for less than 5 years rent that the interest earned will bring it up to the correct amount by the time the last payment of rent is due. I assume you are in the UK using the word Tenant for the land Owner. TTUL Gary

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An I wouldn’t touch it with your pole <g

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Its probably because my salary for the past few years have been in Cash.  Yes pure cash and I haven’t done any of reporting tax because I wasn’t paid in cheque. You come in here proclaiming that you’ve committed tax fraud and then ask us how to bolster your credit?? I wouldn’t touch this with a ten foot insulated pole. — Jim Hudspeth, CFE, CPA http://survivalworks.com

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It’s called money laundering….I wonder if he can be tracked… wake up FINCEN    http://www.treas.gov/fincen/ Financial Crimes Enforcement Network Jim

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, lets see, my first suggestion would be to quit being a major drain on the damn economy and pay your freakin share of taxes you cheap bastard. Why don’t you go to a mortgage company and take out a loan on your big ole fancy $400,000.00 house.  Oh yeah, you can’t cause you don’t have any legal income.  Damn the drug pushing, strip dancing, leg breaking business has so many down sides to it.  Life sucks, get in line asshole and quit expecing cuts. Its probably because my salary for the past few years have been in Cash.  Yes pure cash and I haven’t done any of reporting tax because I wasn’t paid in cheque.  Its probably that they think I dont have the ability to pay the rent?

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Its probably because my salary for the past few years have been in Cash.  Yes pure cash and I haven’t done any of reporting tax because I wasn’t paid in cheque.  

You come in here proclaiming that you’ve committed tax fraud and then ask us how to bolster your credit?? I wouldn’t touch this with a ten foot insulated pole. — Jim Hudspeth, CFE, CPA   http://survivalworks.com

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Well, lets see, my first suggestion would be to quit being a major drain on the damn economy and pay your freakin share of taxes you cheap bastard. Why don’t you go to a mortgage company and take out a loan on your big ole fancy $400,000.00 house.  Oh yeah, you can’t cause you don’t have any legal income.  Damn the drug pushing, strip dancing, leg breaking business has so many down sides to it.  Life sucks, get in line asshole and quit expecing cuts.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Its probably because my salary for the past few years have been in Cash.  Yes pure cash and I haven’t done any of reporting tax because I wasn’t paid in cheque.  Its probably that they think I dont have the ability to pay the rent?

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Its probably because my salary for the past few years have been in Cash.  Yes pure cash and I haven’t done any of reporting tax because I wasn’t paid in cheque.  Its probably that they think I dont have the ability to pay the rent?

How will you be able to pay your rent after the IRS seizes all of your assets and throws you in jail for fraud and tax evasion? If I was the landlord I wouldn’t want you around either. P.B. Smith, CPA

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Theres this restaurant that is very well established and making alot of money.  The restaurant owner ( not the tenant that owns the land ) and I have came to an agreement to buy his business.   Everything is pretty much talked and worked out, and I’ve paid $1000 lawyer fee to have the lawyer help me do forms and incorporate the restaurant.  Then suddenly, the tenant said he will not allow me to buy it due to insufficident credit. Its probably because my salary for the past few years have been in Cash.  Yes pure cash and I haven’t done any of reporting tax because I wasn’t paid in cheque.  Its probably that they think I dont have the ability to pay the rent?   I live in a house and i own it.  Its worth $400,000, and I have a car worth $20,000, and some bonds, RRSP, etc. no stocks though. The restaurant was going to cost me $200,000 and monthly lease cost was only a few thousand. I’ve got pretty much asset, over $450,000,  so why wouldn’t he let me do it? Anybody got some tips or strageties on what I can do to get some more trust from the tenant?  I haven’t talked to the lawyer again yet, would he be able to help me more? Thanks.

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Benny wrote: > I really don’t know how to approach this > tough situation. Any advice would be great.

I am 60 years old.  I have been married four times, twice to the same woman (#1 & #4; the mother of my children).  My grown children are 30 and 31.   Each produced a grandchild last year.  Our daughter lives literally next door.  I’m having dinner at her place in an hour or so.  Our son lives in the nearest large town, about 45 minutes away. I can’t tell you what you should do, but I can tell you what I would do.   I would be rent a U Haul and head for Cleveland.   I have experienced nothing in this life as miserable as living with an unhappy woman.   I have experienced nothing as wonderful as living with a happy woman, with the possible exception of playing with my grandchildren. — Jim Hudspeth, CFE, CPA   http://survivalworks.com

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It’s bad enough trying to spend a long weekend with > her..I can’t imagine living in the same area code. My brother in law > can atest to that, since he’s been putting up with her for years…we > constantly talk about how annoying she is. So really feel that I would > be just as miserable, if not more so in Cleveland.

Just remember there is a huge difference between spending the weekend with someone and living in the same home town.  It’s usually much easier living in your own house and in your own space, than living with your in-laws. You mightn’t find it nearly so bad if you were actually living there in your own place.  Why not try staying in your own accommodation when you go and visit them and see whether this is more tolerable.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->From: Jim Hudspeth >I am 60 years old.  I have been married four times, twice to the same woman >(#1 & #4; the mother of my children).  My grown children are 30 and 31.   >Each produced a grandchild last year.  Our daughter lives literally next >door.  I’m having dinner at her place in an hour or so.  Our son lives in >the nearest large town, about 45 minutes away. >I can’t tell you what you should do, but I can tell you what I would do.   >I would be rent a U Haul and head for Cleveland.   >I have experienced nothing in this life as miserable as living with an >unhappy woman.   >I have experienced nothing as wonderful as living with a happy woman, with >the possible exception of playing with my grandchildren. >– >Jim Hudspeth, CFE, CPA   >http://survivalworks.com

You my dear, sound like a wise man who has finally gotten it )

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Jadelee111512 wrote: > You my dear, sound like a wise man who has finally gotten it )

At my age I sure hope so. My wife is spending this weekend at a rented house with a bunch of female nurses from the clinic where she works.  I have the weekend to play (alt.accounting, alt.support.marriage, alt.whatever, New Yorker, Atlantic Monthly, Wall St. Journal, etc., etc.).   I just finished dinner with my daughter & granddaughter at my daughter’s place.  Her husband had to work late.  He just got home.  We had a few very pleasant words & I left.  They need some time. — Jim Hudspeth,

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>From: Jim Hudspeth >> You my dear, sound like a wise man who has finally gotten it ) >At my age I sure hope so.

Some people never do

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My response: I think this is a serious situation. My aunt married a man and had a child in a town where she was not happy. It never got better and he would not move because he wanted to stay where his mother lived and he liked his job. She stayed until her daugher graduated from high school and then she left. That’s a long time to endur a place you hate. I visited her and I didn’t like it there either. Some places are just not meant for some people. It doesn’t sound like you two really care as much for being with each other as you care about being with your families. I think you should consider a separation and definitely no children until this is sorted out. Or you could move half way in between the families. That way you would each be an hour away from each family. Or move to somewhere completely away from both families. That way you depend on each other for company. So that is my two cents. Benny wrote:

Hi. Let me give you a little background…I’ve been married for 1.5 years. We are both 29. We met in college, and she moved to my hometown after college. I never asked her to move here, but we were serious at the time, and she had some great friends living here, so she moved. 4 yrs later, we were engaged. Now we are married, and living in my hometown, Columbus, Ohio, for 6 yrs. total. We are both very close with are immediate families. My wife grew up in Cleveland (2.5 hrs north of Columbus)and her family still lives there, mother,father and sister. Here’s where the problem arises. Over the last few years, my wife has been complaning periodically how she doesn’t like Columbus, her friends have moved, and she really really misses her family…some part of her is "missing". That brings us to the present…last night she basically comes out and says that she wants to move to Cleveland in a year or two, and has been hinting that over the last few years. Her mother, father and only sister liver in Cleveland. Her sister recently had her first baby a few months ago, her mother is always reminding my wife how much she misses her, and I believe making her feel guilty for living in Columbus. Also, her mother is constently upset…her sister apparently treats her mother horribly,so my wife feels she should be there for her mother. My wife says "if you love me and can see that i’m not myself in Columbus (which she’s not)then you’ll do this one thing for me and move." Now, I’ve lived my entire life here, all my close friends still live here, I have a good job in a small company working with friends, my brother who is my best friend lives 2 minutes from me, my sister just got married and lives not too far from me, and I’m also a mamas boy. Furthermore, my wife’s family is Italian, and extremely loud,nosey,and overbearing(mainly my mother-in-law). It’s bad enough trying to spend a long weekend with her..I can’t imagine living in the same area code. My brother in law can atest to that, since he’s been putting up with her for years…we constantly talk about how annoying she is. So really feel that I would be just as miserable, if not more so in Cleveland. So we are at an impass. She thinks I should do this for her, because she’s done it for me for 6 years. According to her, I shouldn’t have assumed that we were living in Columbus for the rest of our lives. Also, she has a feeling that when she’s pregnant in a year or two, her feeling of home sickness will triple and will probably want to move to be with her mother and sister…not to mention she wants our kids to grow up with her nieces and nephews. After 4.5 hrs of arguing last night, nothing is resolved. I really don’t know how to approach this tough situation. Any advice would be great. Thnx, B

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>From: cheron…@webtv.net >I think this is a serious situation. My aunt married a man and had a >child in a town where she was not happy. It never got better and he >would not move because he wanted to stay where his mother lived and he >liked his job. She stayed until her daugher graduated from high school >and then she left. That’s a long time to endur a place you hate. I >visited her and I didn’t like it there either. Some places are just not >meant for some people. It doesn’t sound like you two really care as much >for being with each other as you care about being with your families. I >think you should consider a separation and definitely no children until >this is sorted out. Or you could move half way in between the families. >That way you would each be an hour away from each family. Or move to >somewhere completely away from both families. That way you depend on >each other for company. So that is my two cents.

What happens if that distance happens to be a thousand miles away?  My husband wants to stay here and I want to live where we both came from.

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Jadelee111512 wrote | It appears that the OP has disappeared. | | Hate it when that happens – Michaela

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I think that first you two need to elevate your discourse a little bit. It sounds like she is using some really classic manipulation attacks, e.g. If you really loved me, you would… and I did that for you, now you should do this for me…  Also you say she has changed (she’s not herself in Columbus). Don’t expect her to change change back to what she was 5 years ago It won’t happen. People change, and don’t expect the reasoning of "If only this were fixed everything would be ok again." It doesn’t happen. If she’s unhappy in Columbus, she’ll be unhappy in Cleveland. Just for a different reason. If you shouldn’t have made the assumption that you would be in Columbus the rest of your lives, she shouldn’t have assumed that you wouldn’t be. Have you considered seeing a marriage counselor? If you argue for 4.5 hours and got nowhere, there’s a problem. I think that you need to learn how to productively and jointly solve a problem. The other thing is in either case you would only be a few hours away from the other city. Surely you can find some sort of compromise. Before you can make a good decision about where to live you probably both need to learn how to communicate and fight fair. Tony In article <fd6ac55d.0201180855.1ba90…@posting.google.com>, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text - bennyandthej…@yahoo.com (Benny) wrote: > Hi. Let me give you a little background…I’ve been married for 1.5 > years. We are both 29. We met in college, and she moved to my hometown > after college. I never asked her to move here, but we were serious at > the time, and she had some great friends living here, so she moved. 4 > yrs later, we were engaged. Now we are married, and living in my > hometown, Columbus, Ohio, for 6 yrs. total. We are both very close > with are immediate families. My wife grew up in Cleveland (2.5 hrs > north of Columbus)and her family still lives there, mother,father and > sister. Here’s where the problem arises. Over the last few years, my > wife has been complaning periodically how she doesn’t like Columbus, > her friends have moved, and she really really misses her family…some > part of her is "missing". That brings us to the present…last night > she basically comes out and says that she wants to move to Cleveland > in a year or two, and has been hinting that over the last few years. > Her mother, father and only sister liver in Cleveland. Her sister > recently had her first baby a few months ago, her mother is always > reminding my wife how much she misses her, and I believe making her > feel guilty for living in Columbus.  Also, her mother is constently > upset…her sister apparently treats her mother horribly,so my wife > feels she should be there for her mother. My wife says "if you love me > and can see that i’m not myself in Columbus (which she’s not)then > you’ll do this one thing for me and move."  Now, I’ve lived my entire > life here, all my close friends still live here, I have a good job in > a small company working with friends, my brother who is my best friend > lives 2 minutes from me, my sister just got married and lives not too > far from me, and I’m also a mamas boy. Furthermore, my wife’s family > is Italian, and extremely loud,nosey,and overbearing(mainly my > mother-in-law). It’s bad enough trying to spend a long weekend with > her..I can’t imagine living in the same area code. My brother in law > can atest to that, since he’s been putting up with her for years…we > constantly talk about how annoying she is. So really feel that I would > be just as miserable, if not more so in Cleveland. > So we are at an impass. She thinks I should do this for her, because > she’s done it for me for 6 years. According to her, I shouldn’t have > assumed that we were living in Columbus for the rest of our lives. > Also, she has a feeling that when she’s pregnant in a year or two, her > feeling of home sickness will triple and will probably want to move to > be with her mother and sister…not to mention she wants our kids to > grow up with her nieces and nephews. After 4.5 hrs of arguing last > night, nothing is resolved. I really don’t know how to approach this > tough situation. Any advice would be great. > Thnx, B

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Benny <bennyandthej…@yahoo.com> wrote:

: So we are at an impass. She thinks I should do this for her, because : she’s done it for me for 6 years. According to her, I shouldn’t have : assumed that we were living in Columbus for the rest of our lives. Why she thinks you shouldn’t? Has she told you she is unhappy in Columbus? From your post it is very clear she doesn’t feel good, but it is not clear if living where you live is an issue. How about asking her exactly what is not OK with Columbus? If she will insist on leaving, offer her moving to some other place – far away from Columbus AND far away from her family. You are married to her not to her family, if you can’t stand them, don’t move next to them – it will only make matters worse. Tell your wife you don’t want to live next to them, and listen what she will answer. : Also, she has a feeling that when she’s pregnant in a year or two, her : feeling of home sickness will triple and will probably want to move to : be with her mother and sister…not to mention she wants our kids to : grow up with her nieces and nephews. After 4.5 hrs of arguing last : night, nothing is resolved. I really don’t know how to approach this : tough situation. Any advice would be great. This ir bad sign, IMHO. She doesn’t feel secure. Maybe her relationships with your relatives in Columbus has some problems? You should discuss your "general life plan" with your wife: how do you plan your careers, how many kids do you plan to have, does she plan to be SOHM, how she feels about changes in her life, what she expects from you and what you expect from her. There are many questions you can ask yourself and then discuss with your wife – and answers for you both absolutely *must* be at least not mutualy exclusive. Place where you live may have nothing to do with your problems at all. Timo — Chamber-pot is spamtrap. Contact me tiwoll at gmx dot net.

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>From: TommyJ >Assuming you would be at least equally unhappy if you moved, I’m siding >a little bit with you, -for now.

That makes little sense to me. >Your wife made the decision to move to >be with you. You didn’t ask her to do that. Although maybe that didn’t >constitute a "life-time" agreement in her mind, moving would be a >drastic change for you that you hadn’t anticipated when you agreed to >get married. She knew what she was getting in to.

Life is about taking risks.  If you don’t take risks then you don’t grow.  It is possible…and of course I am speaking from my own experience that one takes a risk and realizes it was a mistake.  That is the case for me.  I have been here for 8+ years and realize that without the sun and ocean I am often depressed.  Living in sweat clothes 10 months out of the year sucks in my opinion.  Does that mean that I should be forced to stay here until I’m in my 60’s? The point I am making is this:  couples should work together for the good of the relationship.  Whether the issue is moving, finances, in laws or children…the couple should be figuring out how everyone’s needs can be met. If someone is not happy, it should be discussed how they can work together as a team to help that person become happier.  It seems a bit callous to me to hear something like…well, she made her bed, now she has to lie in it. >However, if and/when you have kids, you may want to consider moving if >your wife would be the primary care person for them.

Things don’t magically change for the better once children arrive.  If this woman is not happy now, then they had better figure out what their plans are before getting pregnant! Perhaps no children are in order if they can’t reach an agreement and she really and truly needs to move.  I didn’t realize >how important the support of the extended family can be until we had a >child. Trust me on this one. Assuming her family is physically and >emotionally able to help with the care of your child, being a convenient >distance away can make you and your wife’s life with kids much easier.

I have raised both of my children away from family and have done a wonderful job.  Family is not as crucial in my opinion as being where you want to be.  I raised one child in Calif, where I loved it and one child here, where I hate it and believe me…it makes a world of difference.  And I had no family there or here. >There are lots of other issues at work here though. One concern I’d have >is that you don’t like your mother in law very much and that might be >exacerbated by moving closer and by having kids.

Hehe.  I won’t even touch that issue.  Mother in laws can be rancid even when you live 3000 miles away.  Another thing for your >wife to think about is that a little distance can be a good thing when >there’s conflict in the family. She maybe trading one set of bad >feelings for another if you two move closer to her family and she’s >constantly dealing with the fighting between her mother and sister.

How old is this woman?  I assume she is a grown up and understands the logistics and dynamics involved.  She did, afterall, grow up with them >Perhaps you could agree to a two year trial, your wife may remember some >of the reasons she left had nothing to do with you and be eager to leave >again. On the other hand, you may find that living there isn’t so bad, >and 2.5 hours isn’t really all that far away from your own family.

Now that’s a good idea!  But it will have to be well thought out ahead of time…purchasing houses and finding jobs are not issues to be dealt with lightly.   >Lastly, your individual happiness is tied to your spouse’s to a certain >extent. So even if you look at it selfishly, being married to a happy >person is a whole lot nicer than being married to one that’s miserable.

I agree  In our case, my husband claims that he’d be miserable if we moved back to CA.  So I guess we get to have me miserable here so that he isn’t miserable there.  As you see, we have not resolved this issue.  I probably should not even be responding to this thread for that matter! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Just as an aside, given the choice, my wife would prefer to move my hometown and I would prefer to move to hers. I like the scenic beauty and quaintness of her town, but she dislikes the cold weather, -not that my hometown is exactly tropical. She’d prefer to live closer to my family. Unfortunately, her family was small. She’s an only child, her mother’s dead, and her father has been in an institution for several years. But, if we didn’t have kids, she probably wouldn’t have that much desire to live any closer to my family than we do today.

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Benny wrote:

<snip > So we are at an impass. She thinks I should do this for her, because > she’s done it for me for 6 years. According to her, I shouldn’t have > assumed that we were living in Columbus for the rest of our lives. > Also, she has a feeling that when she’s pregnant in a year or two, her > feeling of home sickness will triple and will probably want to move to > be with her mother and sister…not to mention she wants our kids to > grow up with her nieces and nephews. After 4.5 hrs of arguing last > night, nothing is resolved. I really don’t know how to approach this > tough situation. Any advice would be great. > Thnx, B

I’m sorry you’ve found yourself in this situation. Jadelee’s advice about listening to your wife (and how to listen) is very good. Assuming you would be at least equally unhappy if you moved, I’m siding a little bit with you, -for now. Your wife made the decision to move to be with you. You didn’t ask her to do that. Although maybe that didn’t constitute a "life-time" agreement in her mind, moving would be a drastic change for you that you hadn’t anticipated when you agreed to get married. She knew what she was getting in to. However, if and/when you have kids, you may want to consider moving if your wife would be the primary care person for them. I didn’t realize how important the support of the extended family can be until we had a child. Trust me on this one. Assuming her family is physically and emotionally able to help with the care of your child, being a convenient distance away can make you and your wife’s life with kids much easier. There are lots of other issues at work here though. One concern I’d have is that you don’t like your mother in law very much and that might be exacerbated by moving closer and by having kids. Another thing for your wife to think about is that a little distance can be a good thing when there’s conflict in the family. She maybe trading one set of bad feelings for another if you two move closer to her family and she’s constantly dealing with the fighting between her mother and sister. Perhaps you could agree to a two year trial, your wife may remember some of the reasons she left had nothing to do with you and be eager to leave again. On the other hand, you may find that living there isn’t so bad, and 2.5 hours isn’t really all that far away from your own family. Lastly, your individual happiness is tied to your spouse’s to a certain extent. So even if you look at it selfishly, being married to a happy person is a whole lot nicer than being married to one that’s miserable.

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Hi B, I very much relate to your situation, although I moved much farther to be with my husband.  I have not been happy here so in your post, I mostly relate to your wife. My suggestion to you is to try and be as understanding as possible.  Try and listen to your wife without saying, "yeah but…".  Be empathic and try and put yourself in her  shoes.  One of the most frustrating things in a relationship is when a spouse tries to explain how they feel and they’re met with resistance.  That adds insult to injury. I also highly recommend seeking some counseling over this particular issue.  A person who is not involved in your lives can look at the situation without any biases (unlike friends and family).  The bottom line is that it’s a very real issue that causes pain to both of you and it has to be addressed.  A trained professional can help you with this.  You don’t have to go for years a psychotherapy… this is just to address this problem. I feel for both of you.  My husband is in your shoes and we have wrestled with this issue for close to 9 years.  The whole time, me living where he wants to live.  It’s not easy but you have to both come to terms with it.  Again, until you can seek some outside help, I suggest that you try to be as understanding and kind as possible toward your wife’s feelings.  Don’t resist how she feels.

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Hi. Let me give you a little background…I’ve been married for 1.5 years. We are both 29. We met in college, and she moved to my hometown after college. I never asked her to move here, but we were serious at the time, and she had some great friends living here, so she moved. 4 yrs later, we were engaged. Now we are married, and living in my hometown, Columbus, Ohio, for 6 yrs. total. We are both very close with are immediate families. My wife grew up in Cleveland (2.5 hrs north of Columbus)and her family still lives there, mother,father and sister. Here’s where the problem arises. Over the last few years, my wife has been complaning periodically how she doesn’t like Columbus, her friends have moved, and she really really misses her family…some part of her is "missing". That brings us to the present…last night she basically comes out and says that she wants to move to Cleveland in a year or two, and has been hinting that over the last few years. Her mother, father and only sister liver in Cleveland. Her sister recently had her first baby a few months ago, her mother is always reminding my wife how much she misses her, and I believe making her feel guilty for living in Columbus.  Also, her mother is constently upset…her sister apparently treats her mother horribly,so my wife feels she should be there for her mother. My wife says "if you love me and can see that i’m not myself in Columbus (which she’s not)then you’ll do this one thing for me and move."  Now, I’ve lived my entire life here, all my close friends still live here, I have a good job in a small company working with friends, my brother who is my best friend lives 2 minutes from me, my sister just got married and lives not too far from me, and I’m also a mamas boy. Furthermore, my wife’s family is Italian, and extremely loud,nosey,and overbearing(mainly my mother-in-law). It’s bad enough trying to spend a long weekend with her..I can’t imagine living in the same area code. My brother in law can atest to that, since he’s been putting up with her for years…we constantly talk about how annoying she is. So really feel that I would be just as miserable, if not more so in Cleveland. So we are at an impass. She thinks I should do this for her, because she’s done it for me for 6 years. According to her, I shouldn’t have assumed that we were living in Columbus for the rest of our lives. Also, she has a feeling that when she’s pregnant in a year or two, her feeling of home sickness will triple and will probably want to move to be with her mother and sister…not to mention she wants our kids to grow up with her nieces and nephews. After 4.5 hrs of arguing last night, nothing is resolved. I really don’t know how to approach this tough situation. Any advice would be great. Thnx, B

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Hi all, Anyone out there have much experience with Traverse? Seems flexible, and the data is easily accessible. Any thoughts? Steve S

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Last I knew it was an Access based program? First thing I question when I hear Access based is how will the speed be in a year or two. Just my .02. Wayne http://www.s-consult.com MAS90 , MAS200 and Accounting Software Consulting MAS90 Newsletter http://www.s-consult.com/starinfo/q401/email.htm

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Haven’t used Traverse.  Have talked to the company a number of times.  Believe it is Access based.  Depends on what you want to do with it.  Access isn’t up to the data handling of Foxpro, but it is probably the best of the end user databases.   Right now my feeling is that low end midlevels, and I suspect Traverse falls in this area are getting pushed by programs like Peachtree.  Mid levels like ACCPAC Pro have much more power and are holding their price level.  For instance ACCPAC’s Vision Point Product which is what I think Traverse is similar to goes for $800 a module.  Pro goes for $1200.   For the difference you get a huge amount of additional functionality.  On the other hand if you don’t need a lot then Peachtree multiuser runs about $550 for a very complete program.  Main limitations are can’t handle a lot of volumn and you have to be able to fit your business into its modle, because the first time something significant comes up that it will not do you are dead in the water.  Still I’d say most business with under 2 million in sales are well served by it. Bill Couture

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Bill- Nicely said. -wayne http://www.s-consult.com MAS90 , MAS200 and Accounting Software Consulting MAS90 Newsletter http://www.s-consult.com/starinfo/q401/email.htm

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Steve, I am a programmer at a company that sells Traverse.  Speaking as a programmer it is the best written program I have ever seen and the complete source code is provided for free.  It is an Access based product in frontend only, it uses SQL Server as a backend.  The forms(Frontend) is in Access. Access is not used as the main database for Traverse.  Contact me if you want more information

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My contact info is www.baltech.com

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i think the SBT pro series would allow you source code access… www.sbt.com i think…

Their site mentions Visual Fox Pro, so I would assume it is written in Visual Fox Pro, rather than Visual Basic. — Ray Powell Victoria, BC Canada

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I believe Solomon (soon to be acquired by Great Plains) is written in VB. I’m certain that Great Plains has also licensed and incorporated VBA into their software making it accessible.  For a listing of Access software, see: http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsacct.htm Tom Giffin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking for source code for an accounting program that I can customize for a small cabinet manufacturing company.  I have programmed an Inventory and Purchasing system for the company.  Now they want to add in job costing and Accounts payable.  If I go that far might as well add the general ledger, accounts receivable and bank reconciliation to make a full GAAP compliant accounting package.   This is starting to go over my head though… I am not an accountant.  Also, programming a general ledger seems like recreating the wheel.  Can anyone recommend an accounting package written in Visual Basic or Access with source code that I could modify for the companies needs? Thanks in advance, Tim

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I am looking for source code for an accounting program that I can customize for a small cabinet manufacturing company.  I have programmed an Inventory and Purchasing system for the company.  Now they want to add in job costing and Accounts payable.  If I go that far might as well add the general ledger, accounts receivable and bank reconciliation to make a full GAAP compliant accounting package.   This is starting to go over my head though… I am not an accountant.  Also, programming a general ledger seems like recreating the wheel.  Can anyone recommend an accounting package written in Visual Basic or Access with source code that I could modify for the companies needs? Thanks in advance, Tim

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i think the SBT pro series would allow you source code access… www.sbt.com i think…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking for source code for an accounting program that I can customize for a small cabinet manufacturing company.  I have programmed an Inventory and Purchasing system for the company.  Now they want to add in job costing and Accounts payable.  If I go that far might as well add the general ledger, accounts receivable and bank reconciliation to make a full GAAP compliant accounting package.   This is starting to go over my head though… I am not an accountant.  Also, programming a general ledger seems like recreating the wheel.  Can anyone recommend an accounting package written in Visual Basic or Access with source code that I could modify for the companies needs? Thanks in advance, Tim

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I don’t know if I missed it, but can this recipe be reposted? Heather A. — who will forget she wants it by the weekend when she could do a search on dejanews – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve come across a pumpkin loaf recipe that sounds really good. It calls for vanilla whey protein powder. My question:  Can I substitute egg protein powder for the whey? Well, this is what I would do:  I’d go ahead and substitute it.  If it works – great!  If not – it’s no big loss. Other ingredients include "Just Whites", Okay, so by using egg protein powder, you’d be using egg whites on top of egg whites.  It might cause it to over-rise a bit (eggs can be used as leavening), but it’s certainly worth giving it a try.  You might have to take the word "dense" out of the title, though! Myra As I grow older, I pay less attention to what men say.   I just watch what they do.  – Andrew Carnegie Please direct e-mail to myra [at] primenet [dot] com

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I’ve come across a pumpkin loaf recipe that sounds really good. It calls for vanilla whey protein powder. My question:  Can I substitute egg protein powder for the whey?

Well, this is what I would do:  I’d go ahead and substitute it.  If it works – great!  If not – it’s no big loss. Other ingredients include "Just Whites",

Okay, so by using egg protein powder, you’d be using egg whites on top of egg whites.  It might cause it to over-rise a bit (eggs can be used as leavening), but it’s certainly worth giving it a try.  You might have to take the word "dense" out of the title, though! Myra As I grow older, I pay less attention to what men say.   I just watch what they do.  – Andrew Carnegie Please direct e-mail to myra [at] primenet [dot] com

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Found it at lowcarbluxury.com It’s under the breads and pastas.  Also found a hot cereal that sounds good.  I need to hit the health food store for a few ingredients first. Dense Spicy Pumpkin Bread 3/4 cup vanilla whey protein powder 1/8 cup "Just Whites" (egg white powder) 1 Tablespoon baking powder 1 teaspoon cinnamon 1/2 teaspoon ground clove 1/2 teaspoon nutmeg 1/8 teaspoon mace 1/8 teaspoon ginger 2/3 cup Splenda 1/8 teaspoon salt 1 12-ounce can pumpkin 1/4 cup heavy cream 3 large eggs 1/8 cup water 3 Tablespoons water Preheat oven to 375

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I never assume that a bank actually reads -anything- that’s written or printed on a check.  It costs a very nominal amount to stop it.  But I do call the payee first and say, "’scuse me, but you do know I was trying to send you money, don’t you?"   I am interested to hear how other companies account for A/P disbursement checks that have not cleared the bank at the end of the valid period.  Our company’s checks have a statement on them, "Not valid after 90 days".  If a check does not clear the bank within the 90 day period, what should the policy be?      -  To call the bank and put a hold on the original check, void the payment in the company accounting system, restate the liability, then reissue a payment?      -  Or just let the original check remain outstanding infinitum?

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I am interested to hear how other companies account for A/P disbursement checks that have not cleared the bank at the end of the valid period.  Our company’s checks have a statement on them, "Not valid after 90 days".  If a check does not clear the bank within the 90 day period, what should the policy be?      -  To call the bank and put a hold on the original check, void the payment in the company accounting system, restate the liability, then reissue a payment?      -  Or just let the original check remain outstanding infinitum?

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At some point past a reasonable time, whether that is the stated 90 days or longer is a business choice, the checks should be researched and handled appropriately.  If another check has already been issued then simply void it.  If another check needs to be issued, void the first and reissue a check.  It is highly improbable that an outstanding check older than 1 year would ever resurface and be deposited.  In the event that happens it would pop out on the reconciliation and can then be dealt with accordingly. Whether or not to put stop payments on these checks is a business decision based on cost benefit.  If the checks are written for say $5.00 and the stop payment fee is $10.00 why bother?  If the check is for $1,000,000 and the stop payment fee is $10.00 then certainly I would.  Of course a policy can be set regarding the point at which stop payments should be issued and that would be company specific and depend on your risk aversion and the cost of the stop payment fee. If it is determined that the money is due to an individual but that individual can not be located then the company, in many states, is required to submit the funds to the state with supporting documentation so that the state can track down the individual and complete the transaction. HTH Don   Regards,   Donald A Haney, MBA   Emergency Care Specialists, PC   "Learning occurs in the mind, independent of time and place." – Plato   I am interested to hear how other companies account for A/P disbursement   checks that have not cleared the bank at the end of the valid period.  Our   company’s checks have a statement on them, "Not valid after 90 days".  If a   check does not clear the bank within the 90 day period, what should the   policy be?        -  To call the bank and put a hold on the original check, void the   payment in the company accounting system, restate the liability, then   reissue a payment?        -  Or just let the original check remain outstanding infinitum?

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Thank you, Don, for your advice!   At some point past a reasonable time, whether that is the stated 90 days or longer is a business choice, the checks should be researched and handled appropriately.  If another check has already been issued then simply void it.  If another check needs to be issued, void the first and reissue a check.  It is highly improbable that an outstanding check older than 1 year would ever resurface and be deposited.  In the event that happens it would pop out on the reconciliation and can then be dealt with accordingly.  Whether or not to put stop payments on these checks is a business decision based on cost benefit.  If the checks are written for say $5.00 and the stop payment fee is $10.00 why bother?  If the check is for $1,000,000 and the stop payment fee is $10.00 then certainly I would.  Of course a policy can be set regarding the point at which stop payments should be issued and that would be company specific and depend on your risk aversion and the cost of the stop payment fee.   If it is determined that the money is due to an individual but that individual can not be located then the company, in many states, is required to submit the funds to the state with supporting documentation so that the state can track down the individual and complete the transaction.   HTH   Don     Regards,     Donald A Haney, MBA     Emergency Care Specialists, PC     "Learning occurs in the mind, independent of time and place." – Plato     I am interested to hear how other companies account for A/P disbursement     checks that have not cleared the bank at the end of the valid period.  Our     company’s checks have a statement on them, "Not valid after 90 days".  If a     check does not clear the bank within the 90 day period, what should the     policy be?          -  To call the bank and put a hold on the original check, void the     payment in the company accounting system, restate the liability, then     reissue a payment?          -  Or just let the original check remain outstanding infinitum?

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I am trying to set up my company in Quickbooks 6.0, when I invoice the customers the income account and accounts receivable account are used, but when they pay these invoices sometimes I need to use different accounts to distribute them to eg: payable accounts.  Is there any answer to my dilemma about distributing these to more than just the income account. Thanks, Julie

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When you enter a Deposit, you can apply it to any account, the following are the basic instructions: Depositing payments: 1       From the Activities menu, choose Make Deposits. 2       If you have payments to deposit, click the ones you’d like to deposit now. 3       Click OK. Note: To return to the list of payments to deposit, click the Pmts. button. 4       In the Make Deposits window, select the account you’d like to deposit into. 5       Indicate whether you are getting cash back. If you spent some of your cash sales receipts during the day, follow the steps for getting cash back to enter the expenditures in QuickBooks. 6       (Optional) If you are depositing a payment made by credit card, you can enter the credit card fees as a negative amount and charge them to an expense account by listing the fees on a separate line in the Make Deposits window. 7       In the detail area of the Make Deposits window, enter any deposits that did not come from customer payments. 8       Click OK. If you have any more questions, just let me know. Thanks, Steve Bookkeeping 2000 Quick Books Professional Advisor Computer Consultant – Tax Prepare – Educator/Trainer – Accountant(Not CPA) – Bookkeeper(Current becoming Certified) http://pages.prodigy.net/bookkeeping 1200 East Huntington Drive – Suite 101 – Duarte, CA 91010 (626) 935-3375

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I am trying to set up my company in Quickbooks 6.0, when I invoice the customers the income account and accounts receivable account are used, but when they pay these invoices sometimes I need to use different accounts to distribute them to eg: payable accounts.  Is there any answer to my dilemma about distributing these to more than just the income account. Thanks, Julie

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Nina, You said: I think its not so much about the specific events that I was inspired by, but more by the feeling that I am here for a purpose and God has a plan for me.

Amen to that. I believe it, too. Jen (Pianogirl) *|||* "Be strong and of courage, do not be afraid; neither be ashamed,               for the Lord our God is with you wherever you are." *|||*

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Connie- I did have a little trouble believing the part about the hand…but the other stuff, like about how we are never alone and always have someone looking out for us, well I would like to believe that. I think its not so much about the specific events that I was inspired by, but more by the feeling that I am here for a purpose and God has a plan for me. What did you think about the chapter on suicide? That those who take their own life, are stuck in the middle, until their time on earth would’ve been up? Just curious. Thanks for letting me know what you though! love NIna

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If anyone has already read it, I’d love to know what you think…

Nina~ I have read it. I did like it but I am sceptic from nature. I would love to believe him that there is life after death but some things he writes are just really hard to believe. Like the part where he sais a hand came through the wall and touched him and from then on he could communicate with the dead. I don