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Marine diesel is running around $2.95 a gallon these days.

Yeah, but you know the military always pays too much for basic items like wrenches and toilet seats, too…

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Marine diesel is running around $2.95 a gallon these days. Yeah, but you know the military always pays too much for basic items like wrenches and toilet seats, too…

I was discussing filling up my boats 2 300 gal. tanks. Fortunately, I overhauled both diesels this winter and have them purring like new. They are working at their best efficiency in years.

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Marine diesel is running around $2.95 a gallon these days. Yeah, but you know the military always pays too much for basic items like wrenches and toilet seats, too…

I thought that was to pay for stuff that it doesn’t want us to know about maybe it’s stupidity.   Like the hospital jacks up the price of an asperin to pay for people who cannot pay their medical bills.  Have you ever thought about the fact that the government might be doing things the tax payers wouldn’t like and are jacking up the accounting of prices they give us for things they buy.  I believe anyone who was tempted to lie would do it.  I think anyone with the opportunity to skim off the top would skim.  I can’t conceive of your average person who had a gun not taking advantage of it. I’m not anymore dishonest than most.  I have a feeling we are being fleeced.  Besides they might need the resources to set up an enemy and launch a surprise attack on terrorists or something they don’t want everyone to know about like a secret weapon.  If the general public knew about it or its funding then it wouldn’t be a secret.  If we find out then someone they don’t want to know can find out.  They’d rather the enemy not know it was coming because any hardware can be countered once the other side knows about it or knows its weaknesses.  So it may be stupidity or it could be an attempt to hide what they are about ever thought of that? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was discussing filling up my boats 2 300 gal. tanks. Fortunately, I overhauled both diesels this winter and have them purring like new. They are working at their best efficiency in years.

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Gas is down to $1.959 at the 76 station, and $1.899 at the ARCO station in Davis.

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Gas is down to $1.959 at the 76 station, and $1.899 at the ARCO station in Davis.

I just paid $1.649 in Livermore. Pays to shop around–gas at the fuel docks, for boats, was at $2.65 today! Joe Parsons

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Gas is down to $1.959 at the 76 station, and $1.899 at the ARCO station in Davis. I just paid $1.649 in Livermore. Pays to shop around–gas at the fuel docks, for boats, was at $2.65 today!

Wow, imperial measurements… It was $0.64 on my way home.  Really pays to not own a car. -i

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Gas is down to $1.959 at the 76 station, and $1.899 at the ARCO station in Davis. I just paid $1.649 in Livermore. Pays to shop around–gas at the fuel docks, for boats, was at $2.65 today!

So did you motor or sail the boat to the Livermore gas station to get the much less expensive gas? Nancy Unique, like everyone else

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gas is down to $1.959 at the 76 station, and $1.899 at the ARCO station in Davis. I just paid $1.649 in Livermore. Pays to shop around–gas at the fuel docks, for boats, was at $2.65 today! So did you motor or sail the boat to the Livermore gas station to get the much less expensive gas?

Marine diesel is running around $2.95 a gallon these days. I am trying to modify them to run on hamburger ($1.99 a lb.)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gas is down to $1.959 at the 76 station, and $1.899 at the ARCO station in Davis. I just paid $1.649 in Livermore. Pays to shop around–gas at the fuel docks, for boats, was at $2.65 today! So did you motor or sail the boat to the Livermore gas station to get the much less expensive gas?

It was definitely tempting!  I’m running over to Kragen to pick up a couple of 5 gal gas cans, fer shurr! Joe Parsons – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Nancy Unique, like everyone else

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Speaking of actors, tonight on TV: The AFI salutes Ron Jeremy, with your host …            …ah-Rickeeeeeeeee  DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. — Ian

Okay, here’s another question:  Do you think Ron Jeremy has ADD?   I saw him in a movie where he was with 12 girls and he kept going back and forth between each one, so I thought to myself, "This guy keeps going from one unfinished task to another, maybe HE has ADD!!!"   Just kidding of course.   – Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -New to the group? www.cyber-mall.com/asad/ Actually my original answer was to the dear departed R_D, so I might not have been completely objective. Hence the "real life" remark. Even with 36 "completely different" takes, an actor still has to hit his/her marks, stay within the lighting parameters, and not intrude on the space or light parameters of anyone else in the scene. And if you’re shooting reversals or close-ups, the actor has to match the master shot. ALso, I can think of lots of things I enjoy doing, but I still can’t give my complete attention to without being wildly distracted, unless I can hyperfocus which I’m not able to switch on and off at will. Anyway, this thread had more to do with R_D than with actors. Kate Coe It’s very common to attribute various actors and entertainers with ADD. But, in reality, most ADD’ers have trouble sustaining anything– a state of mind, an action, an emotion for very long.  And so to do the same thing, in pretty much the same way, over and over again,  say,  for 36 takes, is very hard. Yes AND no.  This statement is true when referring to things which ADD’ers don’t enjoy doing.  On the other hand, when an ADD’er is doing something that he or she enjoys and has the ability to hyperfocus on it, they can sustain that activity for a lengthy period of time. In film school I acted in several films.  I was the lead in two of them.  Despite having numerous takes done on several shots my mind kept focused through each one of them.  I was able to do that because I enjoy acting.  I mentioned in one of my first posts about how it is not uncommon for me to edit (film) for 16 hours straight with my attention focused like a laser the whole time because I enjoy editing and can hyperfocus on it. I once saw a Dustin Hoffman interview on TV where he talked about having ADD.  He talked of how his parents pushed him into playing the piano and how he never excelled at it because he couldn’t concentrate on studying.  He then spoke of how he discovered his love for acting and how he was able to dedicate his focus to it. BTW – Mike Myers does a lot of improvising so if he does 36 takes on a shot chances are most of them are completely different. Let’s not confuse film with real life. Or posting with real life. If you re-read the original post you will see that my question was formed from an article/interview about Mike Myers, not from film. – Mike Rick, "Pumpkin" Troll Operations: Where did you hear that Mike Myers is not ADD? Mike’s question was speculative and my answers are speculation. I didn’t say I heard anything rather I used my brain to speculate. It is ok to use the brain? Or does that come under Troll Operations? No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Why do you feel that folks would WANT to appear to have ADD? Now let’s use the english language – giving the impression (impressed) is different than appearing to (detect the weakness of). Ask a good question and I’ll answer. After all Troll operations should be kept busy too. They are sort of saying they think of a bunch of things at once. But more pronounced is hyperactivity or deflatedness, I think. My guess: he is normal and very intelligent. He seems quite composed in Wayne’s World I – not inclined to be hyperactive. I am not sure but I think I heard about some "deflated" periods for him. If he is ADD, he is a treated inattentive. You go on to say if he is ADD he is treated inattentive.  Why do you say that. Answer: I can use my ability to observe and remember and analyze something according to the semantics of the english language. Is this a matter for Troll operations, too? Please answer the question. Troll Operations should have to defend their questions – not just ask them. I haven’t seen Austin Powers. Judging from some of the Austin Power’s scenes which gush with confidence – he is either very happy and confident a lot – like me – or perhaps dabbling in some marijuana and/or cocaine. Either way it seems unreal or at least another level. Rick said: "Mike Myers describes his brain as an airport without air-traffic controllers." Think he might have ADD?  Hmmmm…… Great question, Mike. No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Pumpkin —- Patience is a virtue, I’m not a virtuous woman

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Actually my original answer was to the dear departed R_D, so I might not have been completely objective. Hence the "real life" remark.

Sorry, my mistake.   Even with 36 "completely different" takes, an actor still has to hit his/her marks, stay within the lighting parameters, and not intrude on the space or light parameters of anyone else in the scene. And if you’re shooting reversals or close-ups, the actor has to match the master shot.

Thank god for script supervisors! ALso, I can think of lots of things I enjoy doing, but I still can’t give my complete attention to without being wildly distracted, unless I can hyperfocus which I’m not able to switch on and off at will.

I’m that way as well with a lot of the things I enjoy doing.  With the things I enjoy the absolute most though, I can easily hyperfocus and it can be almost impossible to distract me.  I wonder if there are major differences in hyperfocus among people with ADD.  For example, I wonder if some people can’t, what differing levels people have, how long it can last, etc.  I think I’ll have to post a question to the group about that.             Anyway, this thread had more to do with R_D than with actors.

I apologize once again.  I misinterpreted your post as being aimed at me (along with R_D).       Cheers,  Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s very common to attribute various actors and entertainers with ADD. But, in reality, most ADD’ers have trouble sustaining anything– a state of mind, an action, an emotion for very long.  And so to do the same thing, in pretty much the same way, over and over again,  say,  for 36 takes, is very hard. Yes AND no.  This statement is true when referring to things which ADD’ers don’t enjoy doing.  On the other hand, when an ADD’er is doing something that he or she enjoys and has the ability to hyperfocus on it, they can sustain that activity for a lengthy period of time. In film school I acted in several films.  I was the lead in two of them.  Despite having numerous takes done on several shots my mind kept focused through each one of them.  I was able to do that because I enjoy acting.  I mentioned in one of my first posts about how it is not uncommon for me to edit (film) for 16 hours straight with my attention focused like a laser the whole time because I enjoy editing and can hyperfocus on it. I once saw a Dustin Hoffman interview on TV where he talked about having ADD.  He talked of how his parents pushed him into playing the piano and how he never excelled at it because he couldn’t concentrate on studying.  He then spoke of how he discovered his love for acting and how he was able to dedicate his focus to it. BTW – Mike Myers does a lot of improvising so if he does 36 takes on a shot chances are most of them are completely different. Let’s not confuse film with real life. Or posting with real life. If you re-read the original post you will see that my question was formed from an article/interview about Mike Myers, not from film. – Mike Rick, "Pumpkin" Troll Operations: Where did you hear that Mike Myers is not ADD? Mike’s question was speculative and my answers are speculation. I didn’t say I heard anything rather I used my brain to speculate. It is ok to use the brain? Or does that come under Troll Operations? No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Why do you feel that folks would WANT to appear to have ADD? Now let’s use the english language – giving the impression (impressed) is different than appearing to (detect the weakness of). Ask a good question and I’ll answer. After all Troll operations should be kept busy too. They are sort of saying they think of a bunch of things at once. But more pronounced is hyperactivity or deflatedness, I think. My guess: he is normal and very intelligent. He seems quite composed in Wayne’s World I – not inclined to be hyperactive. I am not sure but I think I heard about some "deflated" periods for him. If he is ADD, he is a treated inattentive. You go on to say if he is ADD he is treated inattentive.  Why do you say that. Answer: I can use my ability to observe and remember and analyze something according to the semantics of the english language. Is this a matter for Troll operations, too? Please answer the question. Troll Operations should have to defend their questions – not just ask them. I haven’t seen Austin Powers. Judging from some of the Austin Power’s scenes which gush with confidence – he is either very happy and confident a lot – like me – or perhaps dabbling in some marijuana and/or cocaine. Either way it seems unreal or at least another level. Rick said: "Mike Myers describes his brain as an airport without air-traffic controllers." Think he might have ADD?  Hmmmm…… Great question, Mike. No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Pumpkin —- Patience is a virtue, I’m not a virtuous woman

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Speaking of actors, tonight on TV: The AFI salutes Ron Jeremy, with your host …             …ah-Rickeeeeeeeee  DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. — Ian New to the group? www.cyber-mall.com/asad/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Actually my original answer was to the dear departed R_D, so I might not have been completely objective. Hence the "real life" remark. Even with 36 "completely different" takes, an actor still has to hit his/her marks, stay within the lighting parameters, and not intrude on the space or light parameters of anyone else in the scene. And if you’re shooting reversals or close-ups, the actor has to match the master shot. ALso, I can think of lots of things I enjoy doing, but I still can’t give my complete attention to without being wildly distracted, unless I can hyperfocus which I’m not able to switch on and off at will. Anyway, this thread had more to do with R_D than with actors. Kate Coe It’s very common to attribute various actors and entertainers with ADD. But, in reality, most ADD’ers have trouble sustaining anything– a state of mind, an action, an emotion for very long.  And so to do the same thing, in pretty much the same way, over and over again,  say,  for 36 takes, is very hard. Yes AND no.  This statement is true when referring to things which ADD’ers don’t enjoy doing.  On the other hand, when an ADD’er is doing something that he or she enjoys and has the ability to hyperfocus on it, they can sustain that activity for a lengthy period of time. In film school I acted in several films.  I was the lead in two of them.  Despite having numerous takes done on several shots my mind kept focused through each one of them.  I was able to do that because I enjoy acting.  I mentioned in one of my first posts about how it is not uncommon for me to edit (film) for 16 hours straight with my attention focused like a laser the whole time because I enjoy editing and can hyperfocus on it. I once saw a Dustin Hoffman interview on TV where he talked about having ADD.  He talked of how his parents pushed him into playing the piano and how he never excelled at it because he couldn’t concentrate on studying.  He then spoke of how he discovered his love for acting and how he was able to dedicate his focus to it. BTW – Mike Myers does a lot of improvising so if he does 36 takes on a shot chances are most of them are completely different. Let’s not confuse film with real life. Or posting with real life. If you re-read the original post you will see that my question was formed from an article/interview about Mike Myers, not from film. – Mike Rick, "Pumpkin" Troll Operations: Where did you hear that Mike Myers is not ADD? Mike’s question was speculative and my answers are speculation. I didn’t say I heard anything rather I used my brain to speculate. It is ok to use the brain? Or does that come under Troll Operations? No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Why do you feel that folks would WANT to appear to have ADD? Now let’s use the english language – giving the impression (impressed) is different than appearing to (detect the weakness of). Ask a good question and I’ll answer. After all Troll operations should be kept busy too. They are sort of saying they think of a bunch of things at once. But more pronounced is hyperactivity or deflatedness, I think. My guess: he is normal and very intelligent. He seems quite composed in Wayne’s World I – not inclined to be hyperactive. I am not sure but I think I heard about some "deflated" periods for him. If he is ADD, he is a treated inattentive. You go on to say if he is ADD he is treated inattentive.  Why do you say that. Answer: I can use my ability to observe and remember and analyze something according to the semantics of the english language. Is this a matter for Troll operations, too? Please answer the question. Troll Operations should have to defend their questions – not just ask them. I haven’t seen Austin Powers. Judging from some of the Austin Power’s scenes which gush with confidence – he is either very happy and confident a lot – like me – or perhaps dabbling in some marijuana and/or cocaine. Either way it seems unreal or at least another level. Rick said: "Mike Myers describes his brain as an airport without air-traffic controllers." Think he might have ADD?  Hmmmm…… Great question, Mike. No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Pumpkin —- Patience is a virtue, I’m not a virtuous woman

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Mike Myers is featured in November’s Personal Glimpses section of Reader’s Digest.  The first sentence reads: "Mike Myers describes his brain as an airport without air-traffic controllers." Think he might have ADD?  Hmmmm…… – Mike  

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Mike Myers is featured in November’s Personal Glimpses section of Reader’s Digest.  The first sentence reads: "Mike Myers describes his brain as an airport without air-traffic controllers." Think he might have ADD?  Hmmmm…… – Mike

Great question, Mike. No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. They are sort of saying they think of a bunch of things at once. But more pronounced is hyperactivity or deflatedness, I think. My guess: he is normal and very intelligent. He seems quite composed in Wayne’s World I – not inclined to be hyperactive. I am not sure but I think I heard about some "deflated" periods for him. If he is ADD, he is a treated inattentive. I haven’t seen Austin Powers. Judging from some of the Austin Power’s scenes which gush with confidence – he is either very happy and confident a lot – like me – or perhaps dabbling in some marijuana and/or cocaine. Either way it seems unreal or at least another level. Rick D

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Rick, Where did you hear that Mike Myers is not ADD? You go on to say if he is ADD he is treated inattentive.  Why do you say that. Why do you feel that folks would WANT to appear to have ADD? Rick said: "Mike Myers describes his brain as an airport without air-traffic controllers." Think he might have ADD?  Hmmmm…… Great question, Mike. No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD.

Pumpkin —- Patience is a virtue, I’m not a virtuous woman

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Rick,

"Pumpkin" Troll Operations: Where did you hear that Mike Myers is not ADD?

Mike’s question was speculative and my answers are speculation. I didn’t say I heard anything rather I used my brain to speculate. It is ok to use the brain? Or does that come under Troll Operations? No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Why do you feel that folks would WANT to appear to have ADD?

Now let’s use the english language – giving the impression (impressed) is different than appearing to (detect the weakness of). Ask a good question and I’ll answer. After all Troll operations should be kept busy too. They are sort of saying they think of a bunch of things at once. But more pronounced is hyperactivity or deflatedness, I think. My guess: he is normal and very intelligent. He seems quite composed in Wayne’s World I – not inclined to be hyperactive. I am not sure but I think I heard about some "deflated" periods for him. If he is ADD, he is a treated inattentive. You go on to say if he is ADD he is treated inattentive.  Why do you say

that. Answer: I can use my ability to observe and remember and analyze something according to the semantics of the english language. Is this a matter for Troll operations, too? Please answer the question. Troll Operations should have to defend their questions – not just ask them. I haven’t seen Austin Powers. Judging from some of the Austin Power’s scenes which gush with confidence – he is either very happy and confident a lot – like me – or perhaps dabbling in some marijuana and/or cocaine. Either way it seems unreal or at least another level. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rick said: "Mike Myers describes his brain as an airport without air-traffic controllers." Think he might have ADD?  Hmmmm…… Great question, Mike. No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Pumpkin —- Patience is a virtue, I’m not a virtuous woman

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It’s very common to attribute various actors and entertainers with ADD. But, in reality, most ADD’ers have trouble sustaining anything– a state of mind, an action, an emotion for very long.  And so to do the same thing, in pretty much the same way, over and over again,  say,  for 36 takes, is very hard. And if the character on screen seems calm and composed and confident: that’s ONE take, selected by the editor and director.   Let’s not confuse film with real life. Or posting with real life. kate Coe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rick, "Pumpkin" Troll Operations: Where did you hear that Mike Myers is not ADD? Mike’s question was speculative and my answers are speculation. I didn’t say I heard anything rather I used my brain to speculate. It is ok to use the brain? Or does that come under Troll Operations? No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Why do you feel that folks would WANT to appear to have ADD? Now let’s use the english language – giving the impression (impressed) is different than appearing to (detect the weakness of). Ask a good question and I’ll answer. After all Troll operations should be kept busy too. They are sort of saying they think of a bunch of things at once. But more pronounced is hyperactivity or deflatedness, I think. My guess: he is normal and very intelligent. He seems quite composed in Wayne’s World I – not inclined to be hyperactive. I am not sure but I think I heard about some "deflated" periods for him. If he is ADD, he is a treated inattentive. You go on to say if he is ADD he is treated inattentive.  Why do you say that. Answer: I can use my ability to observe and remember and analyze something according to the semantics of the english language. Is this a matter for Troll operations, too? Please answer the question. Troll Operations should have to defend their questions – not just ask them. I haven’t seen Austin Powers. Judging from some of the Austin Power’s scenes which gush with confidence – he is either very happy and confident a lot – like me – or perhaps dabbling in some marijuana and/or cocaine. Either way it seems unreal or at least another level. Rick said: "Mike Myers describes his brain as an airport without air-traffic controllers." Think he might have ADD?  Hmmmm…… Great question, Mike. No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Pumpkin —- Patience is a virtue, I’m not a virtuous woman

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Exactly what I was attempting to convey. Thanks Kate – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s very common to attribute various actors and entertainers with ADD. But, in reality, most ADD’ers have trouble sustaining anything– a state of mind, an action, an emotion for very long.  And so to do the same thing, in pretty much the same way, over and over again,  say,  for 36 takes, is very hard. And if the character on screen seems calm and composed and confident: that’s ONE take, selected by the editor and director. Let’s not confuse film with real life. Or posting with real life. kate Coe Rick, "Pumpkin" Troll Operations: Where did you hear that Mike Myers is not ADD? Mike’s question was speculative and my answers are speculation. I didn’t say I heard anything rather I used my brain to speculate. It is ok to use the brain? Or does that come under Troll Operations? No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Why do you feel that folks would WANT to appear to have ADD? Now let’s use the english language – giving the impression (impressed) is different than appearing to (detect the weakness of). Ask a good question and I’ll answer. After all Troll operations should be kept busy too. They are sort of saying they think of a bunch of things at once. But more pronounced is hyperactivity or deflatedness, I think. My guess: he is normal and very intelligent. He seems quite composed in Wayne’s World I – not inclined to be hyperactive. I am not sure but I think I heard about some "deflated" periods for him. If he is ADD, he is a treated inattentive. You go on to say if he is ADD he is treated inattentive.  Why do you say that. Answer: I can use my ability to observe and remember and analyze something according to the semantics of the english language. Is this a matter for Troll operations, too? Please answer the question. Troll Operations should have to defend their questions – not just ask them. I haven’t seen Austin Powers. Judging from some of the Austin Power’s scenes which gush with confidence – he is either very happy and confident a lot – like me – or perhaps dabbling in some marijuana and/or cocaine. Either way it seems unreal or at least another level. Rick said: "Mike Myers describes his brain as an airport without air-traffic controllers." Think he might have ADD?  Hmmmm…… Great question, Mike. No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Pumpkin —- Patience is a virtue, I’m not a virtuous woman

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It’s very common to attribute various actors and entertainers with ADD. But, in reality, most ADD’ers have trouble sustaining anything– a state of mind, an action, an emotion for very long.  And so to do the same thing, in pretty much the same way, over and over again,  say,  for 36 takes, is very hard. And if the character on screen seems calm and composed and confident: that’s ONE take, selected by the editor and director.   Let’s not confuse film with real life. Or posting with real life. kate Coe

Don’t discount Mike Myers just because he can do all those takes. He may just be hyperfocusing on something he likes. For some people, repetitive work is like a cure. Let’s be realistic here. We know very little about how he is off camera, or away from work. The only possible answer is "insufficient data". —   /   Marc Etienne Lachance, KSC, LMAA  /<  Danubist, Ateist, and, well, /____ *you* figure it out. Fnord.

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Iachance said: "Don’t discount Mike Myers just because he can do all those takes. He may just be hyperfocusing on something he likes. For some people, repetitive work is like a cure." Yes. I was a music major in undergraduate school. I could go into a practice room and pound out scales in octives on a piano over and over. I could shut the door and vocalize my brains out. I was working to my strengths. I had tremendous diligence when it came to practicing, but very little staying power in some other areas. Actors don’t have to do the same take over EXACTLY THE SAME WAY each time. One reason to do it over is to try it differently. It’s part of the creative process. Also, when we’re doing something we truly love (and are truly good at) we can sometimes do the boring stuff to get to the good stuff.

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In accounting there are days when all I want to do is ten-key. Very repetitious. I tend to over-analysis, so shutting down is restful and repetition is restful. Last year, I made & sold 700 paper-mache Christmas ornaments. The design was the fun part, but hand making 700 is boring.  I used hyper-focussed for about 3 weeks.   I think it is an error to underestimate the power of an ADDer hyper-focussing. Charlie Iachance said: "Don’t discount Mike Myers just because he can do all those takes. He may just be hyperfocusing on something he likes. For some people, repetitive work is like a cure."

Susan said – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Yes. I was a music major in undergraduate school. I could go into a practice room and pound out scales in octives on a piano over and over. I could shut the door and vocalize my brains out. I was working to my strengths. I had tremendous diligence when it came to practicing, but very little staying power in some other areas. Actors don’t have to do the same take over EXACTLY THE SAME WAY each time. One reason to do it over is to try it differently. It’s part of the creative process. Also, when we’re doing something we truly love (and are truly good at) we can sometimes do the boring stuff to get to the good stuff.

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It’s very common to attribute various actors and entertainers with ADD. But, in reality, most ADD’ers have trouble sustaining anything– a state of mind, an action, an emotion for very long.  And so to do the same thing, in pretty much the same way, over and over again,  say,  for 36 takes, is very hard.

Yes AND no.  This statement is true when referring to things which ADD’ers don’t enjoy doing.  On the other hand, when an ADD’er is doing something that he or she enjoys and has the ability to hyperfocus on it, they can sustain that activity for a lengthy period of time.   In film school I acted in several films.  I was the lead in two of them.  Despite having numerous takes done on several shots my mind kept focused through each one of them.  I was able to do that because I enjoy acting.  I mentioned in one of my first posts about how it is not uncommon for me to edit (film) for 16 hours straight with my attention focused like a laser the whole time because I enjoy editing and can hyperfocus on it. I once saw a Dustin Hoffman interview on TV where he talked about having ADD.  He talked of how his parents pushed him into playing the piano and how he never excelled at it because he couldn’t concentrate on studying.  He then spoke of how he discovered his love for acting and how he was able to dedicate his focus to it. BTW – Mike Myers does a lot of improvising so if he does 36 takes on a shot chances are most of them are completely different. Let’s not confuse film with real life. Or posting with real life.

If you re-read the original post you will see that my question was formed from an article/interview about Mike Myers, not from film. – Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rick, "Pumpkin" Troll Operations: Where did you hear that Mike Myers is not ADD? Mike’s question was speculative and my answers are speculation. I didn’t say I heard anything rather I used my brain to speculate. It is ok to use the brain? Or does that come under Troll Operations? No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Why do you feel that folks would WANT to appear to have ADD? Now let’s use the english language – giving the impression (impressed) is different than appearing to (detect the weakness of). Ask a good question and I’ll answer. After all Troll operations should be kept busy too. They are sort of saying they think of a bunch of things at once. But more pronounced is hyperactivity or deflatedness, I think. My guess: he is normal and very intelligent. He seems quite composed in Wayne’s World I – not inclined to be hyperactive. I am not sure but I think I heard about some "deflated" periods for him. If he is ADD, he is a treated inattentive. You go on to say if he is ADD he is treated inattentive.  Why do you say that. Answer: I can use my ability to observe and remember and analyze something according to the semantics of the english language. Is this a matter for Troll operations, too? Please answer the question. Troll Operations should have to defend their questions – not just ask them. I haven’t seen Austin Powers. Judging from some of the Austin Power’s scenes which gush with confidence – he is either very happy and confident a lot – like me – or perhaps dabbling in some marijuana and/or cocaine. Either way it seems unreal or at least another level. Rick said: "Mike Myers describes his brain as an airport without air-traffic controllers." Think he might have ADD?  Hmmmm…… Great question, Mike. No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Pumpkin —- Patience is a virtue, I’m not a virtuous woman

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Actually my original answer was to the dear departed R_D, so I might not have been completely objective. Hence the "real life" remark. Even with 36 "completely different" takes, an actor still has to hit his/her marks, stay within the lighting parameters, and not intrude on the space or light parameters of anyone else in the scene. And if you’re shooting reversals or close-ups, the actor has to match the master shot. ALso, I can think of lots of things I enjoy doing, but I still can’t give my complete attention to without being wildly distracted, unless I can hyperfocus which I’m not able to switch on and off at will. Anyway, this thread had more to do with R_D than with actors. Kate Coe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s very common to attribute various actors and entertainers with ADD. But, in reality, most ADD’ers have trouble sustaining anything– a state of mind, an action, an emotion for very long.  And so to do the same thing, in pretty much the same way, over and over again,  say,  for 36 takes, is very hard. Yes AND no.  This statement is true when referring to things which ADD’ers don’t enjoy doing.  On the other hand, when an ADD’er is doing something that he or she enjoys and has the ability to hyperfocus on it, they can sustain that activity for a lengthy period of time. In film school I acted in several films.  I was the lead in two of them.  Despite having numerous takes done on several shots my mind kept focused through each one of them.  I was able to do that because I enjoy acting.  I mentioned in one of my first posts about how it is not uncommon for me to edit (film) for 16 hours straight with my attention focused like a laser the whole time because I enjoy editing and can hyperfocus on it. I once saw a Dustin Hoffman interview on TV where he talked about having ADD.  He talked of how his parents pushed him into playing the piano and how he never excelled at it because he couldn’t concentrate on studying.  He then spoke of how he discovered his love for acting and how he was able to dedicate his focus to it. BTW – Mike Myers does a lot of improvising so if he does 36 takes on a shot chances are most of them are completely different. Let’s not confuse film with real life. Or posting with real life. If you re-read the original post you will see that my question was formed from an article/interview about Mike Myers, not from film. – Mike Rick, "Pumpkin" Troll Operations: Where did you hear that Mike Myers is not ADD? Mike’s question was speculative and my answers are speculation. I didn’t say I heard anything rather I used my brain to speculate. It is ok to use the brain? Or does that come under Troll Operations? No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Why do you feel that folks would WANT to appear to have ADD? Now let’s use the english language – giving the impression (impressed) is different than appearing to (detect the weakness of). Ask a good question and I’ll answer. After all Troll operations should be kept busy too. They are sort of saying they think of a bunch of things at once. But more pronounced is hyperactivity or deflatedness, I think. My guess: he is normal and very intelligent. He seems quite composed in Wayne’s World I – not inclined to be hyperactive. I am not sure but I think I heard about some "deflated" periods for him. If he is ADD, he is a treated inattentive. You go on to say if he is ADD he is treated inattentive.  Why do you say that. Answer: I can use my ability to observe and remember and analyze something according to the semantics of the english language. Is this a matter for Troll operations, too? Please answer the question. Troll Operations should have to defend their questions – not just ask them. I haven’t seen Austin Powers. Judging from some of the Austin Power’s scenes which gush with confidence – he is either very happy and confident a lot – like me – or perhaps dabbling in some marijuana and/or cocaine. Either way it seems unreal or at least another level. Rick said: "Mike Myers describes his brain as an airport without air-traffic controllers." Think he might have ADD?  Hmmmm…… Great question, Mike. No, The airport without controller is just a cool thing he heard. Some people actually like to give the impression they have ADD. Pumpkin —- Patience is a virtue, I’m not a virtuous woman

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Daniel, Thank you for your reply.  We are currently using the latest version of Sage.  Unfortunately the product does not achieve the functionality I was led to believe it would have.   We have only had the product for six months and due to structure changes within the group our accounting requirements have changed substantially. Sage seems to be a good product, but is really suited to smaller businesses rather than our own. Support has also been less than desirable, we need a product that can be easily supportable and has a true support infrastructure in place. I have had a couple of emails directly referring to CAIMAN 5.0, Accpac for Windows and Dynamics CS+.  MAS90 has also been suggested, however this is part of the Sage group. Regards Paul Swepstone FCA Herons International Ltd – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What do you use today ?

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What do you use today ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am currently looking to replace the existing accounting system used at our offices, we have two offices in the UK, 1 in France, 1 in the Netherlands, 2 in America and 1 in Canada. Throughout the group there are approximately 125 accounting users. Our requirements are: Remote data Entry We need our satellite offices to be able to enter information via the internet, all accounting data is to be stored at our Head Office in the UK. Multicurrency The new system must support multi-currency. General Ledger Easy data entry and the facility to produce Financial Statements using either Lotus or Excel, I would ideally like an accounting system that integrates to either Lotus or Excel.  Multiple cost centres with multiple levels are also required with the facility to hold at least 7 years of fiscal data in detail. Accounts Payable Easy data entry, unlimited suppliers with multi-currency functionality. Standard reports such as Supplier transactions and ageing are required. Accounts Receivable Easy data entry, unlimited customers with multi-currency functionality. Standard reports such as Customer transactions and ageing are required. Invoice production is also a must. Report Writer We need to be able to produce adhoc reports without having to be a technical genius.  We are currently using Crystal Reports and would like to continue using this. General We would like to be able to retrieve transactions into the new system from spreadsheets and external databases. I would greatly appreciate any advice. Paul Swepstone FCA Herons International Ltd

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am currently looking to replace the existing accounting system used at our offices, we have two offices in the UK, 1 in France, 1 in the Netherlands, 2 in America and 1 in Canada. Throughout the group there are approximately 125 accounting users. Our requirements are: Remote data Entry We need our satellite offices to be able to enter information via the internet, all accounting data is to be stored at our Head Office in the UK. Multicurrency The new system must support multi-currency. General Ledger Easy data entry and the facility to produce Financial Statements using either Lotus or Excel, I would ideally like an accounting system that integrates to either Lotus or Excel.  Multiple cost centres with multiple levels are also required with the facility to hold at least 7 years of fiscal data in detail. Accounts Payable Easy data entry, unlimited suppliers with multi-currency functionality. Standard reports such as Supplier transactions and ageing are required. Accounts Receivable Easy data entry, unlimited customers with multi-currency functionality. Standard reports such as Customer transactions and ageing are required. Invoice production is also a must. Report Writer We need to be able to produce adhoc reports without having to be a technical genius.  We are currently using Crystal Reports and would like to continue using this. General We would like to be able to retrieve transactions into the new system from spreadsheets and external databases.   I would greatly appreciate any advice. Paul Swepstone FCA Herons International Ltd

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I suggest you check out Platinum ERA.  It seems to have all of the features you’ve requested.  We’re in the process of converting from SBT to Platinum ERA now. — Gerry * Gerard W White * Database Developer / Software Coordinator * Phoenix Color Corp www.PhoenixColor.com * ICQ: 15205810 * http://come.to/The.White.House * Comments may not be those of my employer…or wife.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am currently looking to replace the existing accounting system used at our offices, we have two offices in the UK, 1 in France, 1 in the Netherlands, 2 in America and 1 in Canada. Throughout the group there are approximately 125 accounting users. Our requirements are: Remote data Entry We need our satellite offices to be able to enter information via the internet, all accounting data is to be stored at our Head Office in the UK. Multicurrency The new system must support multi-currency. General Ledger Easy data entry and the facility to produce Financial Statements using either Lotus or Excel, I would ideally like an accounting system that integrates to either Lotus or Excel.  Multiple cost centres with multiple levels are also required with the facility to hold at least 7 years of fiscal data in detail. Accounts Payable Easy data entry, unlimited suppliers with multi-currency functionality. Standard reports such as Supplier transactions and ageing are required. Accounts Receivable Easy data entry, unlimited customers with multi-currency functionality. Standard reports such as Customer transactions and ageing are required. Invoice production is also a must. Report Writer We need to be able to produce adhoc reports without having to be a technical genius.  We are currently using Crystal Reports and would like to continue using this. General We would like to be able to retrieve transactions into the new system from spreadsheets and external databases. I would greatly appreciate any advice. Paul Swepstone FCA Herons International Ltd

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Accpac for Windows has the features you are looking for. You will need thin client technology for your remote data entry, either from Microsoft or Critrix. Check out A4W at www.accpac.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am currently looking to replace the existing accounting system used at our offices, we have two offices in the UK, 1 in France, 1 in the Netherlands, 2 in America and 1 in Canada. Throughout the group there are approximately 125 accounting users. Our requirements are: Remote data Entry We need our satellite offices to be able to enter information via the internet, all accounting data is to be stored at our Head Office in the UK. Multicurrency The new system must support multi-currency. General Ledger Easy data entry and the facility to produce Financial Statements using either Lotus or Excel, I would ideally like an accounting system that integrates to either Lotus or Excel.  Multiple cost centres with multiple levels are also required with the facility to hold at least 7 years of fiscal data in detail. Accounts Payable Easy data entry, unlimited suppliers with multi-currency functionality. Standard reports such as Supplier transactions and ageing are required. Accounts Receivable Easy data entry, unlimited customers with multi-currency functionality. Standard reports such as Customer transactions and ageing are required. Invoice production is also a must. Report Writer We need to be able to produce adhoc reports without having to be a technical genius.  We are currently using Crystal Reports and would like to continue using this. General We would like to be able to retrieve transactions into the new system from spreadsheets and external databases. I would greatly appreciate any advice. Paul Swepstone FCA Herons International Ltd

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Take a look at Dynamics C/S+ from Great Plains Software.  With the addition of Metaframe from Citrix it would give you the remote capability you are looking for.  It supports multicurrency and the Euro and at least on the surface has the functionality you mentioned.  Http://www.greatplains.com. Alan — Alan C. Whitehouse The Resource Group Great Plains Reseller & Solutions Developer 1400 Talbot Rd. S., Suite 301 Renton, WA 98055 (425) 277-4760 http://www.resgroup.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am currently looking to replace the existing accounting system used at our offices, we have two offices in the UK, 1 in France, 1 in the Netherlands, 2 in America and 1 in Canada. Throughout the group there are approximately 125 accounting users. Our requirements are: Remote data Entry We need our satellite offices to be able to enter information via the internet, all accounting data is to be stored at our Head Office in the UK. Multicurrency The new system must support multi-currency. General Ledger Easy data entry and the facility to produce Financial Statements using either Lotus or Excel, I would ideally like an accounting system that integrates to either Lotus or Excel.  Multiple cost centres with multiple levels are also required with the facility to hold at least 7 years of fiscal data in detail. Accounts Payable Easy data entry, unlimited suppliers with multi-currency functionality. Standard reports such as Supplier transactions and ageing are required. Accounts Receivable Easy data entry, unlimited customers with multi-currency functionality. Standard reports such as Customer transactions and ageing are required. Invoice production is also a must. Report Writer We need to be able to produce adhoc reports without having to be a technical genius.  We are currently using Crystal Reports and would like to continue using this. General We would like to be able to retrieve transactions into the new system from spreadsheets and external databases. I would greatly appreciate any advice. Paul Swepstone FCA Herons International Ltd

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I am currently looking to replace the existing accounting system used at our offices, we have two offices in the UK, 1 in France, 1 in the Netherlands, 2 in America and 1 in Canada. Throughout the group there are approximately 125 accounting users. Our requirements are: Remote data Entry We need our satellite offices to be able to enter information via the internet, all accounting data is to be stored at our Head Office in the UK. Multicurrency The new system must support multi-currency. General Ledger Easy data entry and the facility to produce Financial Statements using either Lotus or Excel, I would ideally like an accounting system that integrates to either Lotus or Excel.  Multiple cost centres with multiple levels are also required with the facility to hold at least 7 years of fiscal data in detail. Accounts Payable Easy data entry, unlimited suppliers with multi-currency functionality. Standard reports such as Supplier transactions and ageing are required. Accounts Receivable Easy data entry, unlimited customers with multi-currency functionality. Standard reports such as Customer transactions and ageing are required. Invoice production is also a must. Report Writer We need to be able to produce adhoc reports without having to be a technical genius.  We are currently using Crystal Reports and would like to continue using this. General We would like to be able to retrieve transactions into the new system from spreadsheets and external databases.   I would greatly appreciate any advice. Paul Swepstone FCA Herons International Ltd

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I am in the process of setting up a 401K plan.  Are there any pitfalls I should watch out for?  Hidden fees or cost?  Does anyone have any enrollment ideas?  Any and all information or experiences would be very helpful. Thanks Ernest Robinson, CMA Controller Janjer Enterprises

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I am in the process of setting up a 401K plan.  Are there any pitfalls I should watch out for?  Hidden fees or cost?  Does anyone have any enrollment ideas?  Any and all information or experiences would be very helpful. Thanks Ernest Robinson, CMA Controller Janjer Enterprises

I believe we had about 115 employees when the company I worked for finally agreed to institute a 401(k) plan.  We used a pension administrator and an insurance agent (who brought in Aetna), and it was great.  It takes close accounting work if you have old payroll software, but if you use a spreadsheet faithfully, it works out fine.  The costs to the company are minimal – about $800 – $1,000 per year if you have the account fees charged to their individual accounts.  To encourage the factory workers (who started at about $5.25 per hour) to participate, we matched dollar for dollar for the first $250.00, and $.25 on the dollar for the next thousand dollars.  We allowed as little as $2.00 per week or 1% (their choice) of their salary to be contributed, just to get them involved.  Just remember, the plan you file is the plan that MUST be followed by ALL.  The management CANNOT promise to bring a new employee in early, just to get them to take a position.  I think the initial setup costs were $2,000.  It all fell in line with the usual profit-sharing bonus (1% of the pre-tax profit) we handed out quarterly, and cost us less.  The employees ended up with more since the match is not taxed. Go for it!  You will be doing your employees a HUGE favor! — Cary Hedrick, Accountant "You may soar with eagles, but weasles don’t get caught in jet engines." (

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Where is the home page?????

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www.imanet.org – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Where is the home page?????

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www.rutgers.edu/Accounting/raw/ima

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Where is the home page????? http://www.rutgers.edu/Accounting/raw/ima/ima.htm

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In addition there is an inventory update feature, which you can use to adjust the quanities on hand. So you don’t have to do it by GJ entry.

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Help! I am attempting to set up Peachtree Accounting for Windows for a produce delivery company.  Here is my problem:  Many of the items that this company sells are sold in three different ways – i.e., by the case, by the pound, and by the each.  The problem is, I can’t seem to find a way to set up these items in inventory so that they are linked to one another.  The only solution I was able to come up with was to create three different inventory items, 111CS, 111LB, and 111EA, and then manually deduct from the case amount at certain predetermined intervals.  Is this the only way to accomplish this in Peachtree, or is there an easier way?  Thank you much, Brian H.

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Brian, Without getting too detailed, how about…. – Make the inventory item, the smallest common denominator (probably each unless they weight more than a pound – you could set the item up as a ) – Create Assemblies for each of the "Quantified" items.     i.e.. The case assembly BOM is 10 units, etc. Then, sell the item, or one of the assemblies. — Paul MacFarlane American Riviera Software http://www.business-plaza.com http://www.sb.net/amerisft/ remove *SPAMLESS* from reply address – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Help! I am attempting to set up Peachtree Accounting for Windows for a produce delivery company.  Here is my problem:  Many of the items that this company sells are sold in three different ways – i.e., by the case, by the pound, and by the each.  The problem is, I can’t seem to find a way to set up these items in inventory so that they are linked to one another.  The only solution I was able to come up with was to create three different inventory items, 111CS, 111LB, and 111EA, and then manually deduct from the case amount at certain predetermined intervals.  Is this the only way to accomplish this in Peachtree, or is there an easier way?  Thank you much, Brian H.

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One of my clients managed to mess up their hard drive such that their QuickBooks 4.0 installation was scrambled beyond repair, and I have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall the program. They have the original setup floppies, and (luckily) a backup floppy copy of the .QBW file that contains their transaction data to date.  My question is, if I reinstall the program, and then paste in the .QBW file (via Windows Explorer), will the program recognise the data in that file?  That is, if all the .QBW data are just the actual transactions, how are things like the customer and vendor lists to which the transactions point to be restored?  Does I have to manually recreate the various support files (account, customer, vendor, item, etc.) before the .QBW data can be read?  Are these files stored such that, if they weren’t damaged on the hard drive, I can try to back them up to floppies and paste them in as well before pasting in the transaction data?  If so, how would I identify these files? I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s had to recover a crashed QB installation with existing data, so any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.

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The backup file contains all the list information you need. After reinstalling QB, open the QBW file (should be QBB, in that case restore the file) and then save to the hard drive. All is explained in the manual. Roman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – One of my clients managed to mess up their hard drive such that their QuickBooks 4.0 installation was scrambled beyond repair, and I have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall the program. They have the original setup floppies, and (luckily) a backup floppy copy of the .QBW file that contains their transaction data to date.  My question is, if I reinstall the program, and then paste in the .QBW file (via Windows Explorer), will the program recognise the data in that file?  That is, if all the .QBW data are just the actual transactions, how are things like the customer and vendor lists to which the transactions point to be restored?  Does I have to manually recreate the various support files (account, customer, vendor, item, etc.) before the .QBW data can be read?  Are these files stored such that, if they weren’t damaged on the hard drive, I can try to back them up to floppies and paste them in as well before pasting in the transaction data?  If so, how would I identify these files? I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s had to recover a crashed QB installation with existing data, so any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.

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The backup file contains all the list information you need. After reinstalling QB, open the QBW file (should be QBB, in that case restore the file) and then save to the hard drive. All is explained in the manual. Roman

Thanks; that should save me a lot of hassle.  (I know the RTFM rule, but I forgot to mention that the client lost their manuals long ago.)

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One of my clients managed to mess up their hard drive such that their QuickBooks 4.0 installation was scrambled beyond repair, and I have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall the program. They have the original setup floppies, and (luckily) a backup floppy copy of the .QBW file that contains their transaction data to date.  My question is, if I reinstall the program, and then paste in the .QBW file (via Windows Explorer), will the program recognize the data in that file?  That is, if all the .QBW data are just the actual transactions, how are things like the customer and vendor lists to which the transactions point to be restored?

Everything you need is in the QBW file. The only exception may be a custom invoice template, but you can create it later with no problem. Mike Block, Tax Fighting C.P.A., 954-566-7540, fax 7541   QuickBooks Prof. Advisor & Official QB 6 Top Tester   biz.comp.accounting co-moderator for spam free news    275 E Oakland Park Blvd, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33334

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At my last review I only received a 2% raise.  I was told that I am near what the maximum was for my position.  The maximum being $660 per week for the State of California. Apparently, my company became a member of an association of 500 Californian business.  It gives statistical breakdowns of what other business do and averages on salaries based on positions. Frankly, I think they are giving me the business.  Are they?  How much can an A/P Manager make?   p.s. I have a certificate in accounting.  I am studying at night for my BA and thus my CPA.  However, I still feel that I am getting the business.

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//snip// |Frankly, I think they are giving me the business.  Are they?  How much can |an A/P Manager make?   | |p.s. | |I have a certificate in accounting.  I am studying at night for my BA and |thus my CPA.  However, I still feel that I am getting the business. | What difference does it make?  Apparently, the position where you are is not worth more to them.  One way to find out, tell them what you want to make.  Look at your options.  As Dear Abby says, "Are ya better off with them or without them."   A little ‘food’ for thought J. Ime (Remove ".." to respond)

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It’s funny. In Atlanta, you can get a CPA to do your job for that much. Where you are and how big your company is are key items in determining your worth TO THEM. I agree with Jim. Check your market value elsewhere. If you can get more elsewhere and it looks appealling, go for it. Truly, an open market will determine value. Good luck,         Dana

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At my last review I only received a 2% raise.  I was told that I am near what the maximum was for my position.  The maximum being $660 per week for the State of California. Apparently, my company became a member of an association of 500 Californian business.  It gives statistical breakdowns of what other business do and averages on salaries based on positions. Frankly, I think they are giving me the business.  Are they?  How much can an A/P Manager make?

Statistics are just statistics and should not be used as a ceiling for salaries.  A sample size of 500 is way too low to be statistically relevent anyways.  Many variables are involved in deciding pay, such as size of company, how long one has been with the company, education, specific duties/responsibilites, etc.  There is also the issue of other forms of compensation such as company car, performance bonuses, profit sharing, stock options, etc. that many Managers may receive but that may not have been included as part of "salaries" in the statistical analysis.  Remember, statistics, when viewed the "right way", can be made to explain almost anything. There is no such thing as a "maximum" salary unless it’s due to an internal pay scale, such as if you were in a union.  The only way to really find out your value as an A/P Manager is to start networking and sending out resumes and test the market yourself. I have a certificate in accounting.  I am studying at night for my BA and thus my CPA.  However, I still feel that I am getting the business.

IMHO, while it’s great you’re studying for your BA and CPA, you do not have these as yet.  Therefore, your pay will not be materially affected by your efforts until you actually receive your degree and designation.

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If you have used this club please give me your opinions on it thanks justin

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I had the misfortune of buying one after hitting a dozen screamers on the driving range….took it on the course and hardly hit a decent drive in about 10 rounds. When the Invex first appeared here in UK they were retailing at

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[snip] including at least 186 hyacinth macaws — birds which federal authorities value at more than one-point-three million dollars. Yow!  I had no idea that hyacinths cost that much!  Is that an accurate figure, or is it some bizarrely inflated government accounting figure? — Emily

    That comes out to just under $7000 a bird. I saw a Nova program that had to do with bird smuggling, and they gave a different price for the Hyacinth Macaws. They said that they cost between $8000 and $15,000 each!     Of coarse, they ARE very rare birds…     Chris Biebel — * UniQWK v3.3a* The Windows Mail Reader

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   That comes out to just under $7000 a bird. I saw a Nova program that had to do with bird smuggling, and they gave a different price for the Hyacinth Macaws. They said that they cost between $8000 and $15,000 each!    Of coarse, they ARE very rare birds…

Oh, that makes sense.  I read it as meaning "one point three million dollars EACH" which seemed extreme, to say the least.  :-) — Emily

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:    That comes out to just under $7000 a bird. I saw a Nova program that : had to do with bird smuggling, and they gave a different price for the : Hyacinth Macaws. They said that they cost between $8000 and $15,000 each! :    Of coarse, they ARE very rare birds… : Oh, that makes sense.  I read it as meaning "one point three million : dollars EACH" which seemed extreme, to say the least.  :-) : — Emily 7000 would be about right. We Sell babies for 7500 weaned <takes 8 mos to a year to wean!

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7000 would be about right. We Sell babies for 7500 weaned <takes 8 mos to a year to wean!

In Canada (B.C., actually) I think the price is around C$8,000-10,000. Of course you have to add at least another $1,000 for a cage, and probably another $1,000 for accessories and food. Their diet is somewhat specialized from what I understand. The bottom line is, you are looking at the equivelent of the down payment on a small house. —

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [snip] including at least 186 hyacinth macaws — birds which federal authorities value at more than one-point-three million dollars. Yow!  I had no idea that hyacinths cost that much!  Is that an accurate figure, or is it some bizarrely inflated government accounting figure? — Emily    That comes out to just under $7000 a bird. I saw a Nova program that had to do with bird smuggling, and they gave a different price for the Hyacinth Macaws. They said that they cost between $8000 and $15,000 each!    Of coarse, they ARE very rare birds…    Chris Biebel — * UniQWK v3.3a* The Windows Mail Reader

Not that you can own one, but the red-fronted amazon at the Houston Zoo (an endangered species) is valued at $50,000.  Now that’s an expensive bird!

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