a good accountant will understand this

Question:

Lap dancing didn’t help finance my PhD but a $6 investment did.  Also, we have saying in Ireland, "before you make up your mind..open it". But I guess they don’t teach you that in ‘counting school’ do they !!

No, but in elementary school they taught us punctuation. In college they taught me European punctuation, so don’t even go there. What is your "PhD" in? A

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Can I play with your tits for free? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Not all spam is a scam.  Try it before you critizie it.  I got nearly $3000 dollars in the post over the last few days.  That’s more than I thought I would get within 3 months. I don’t know if more is to come but so far it’s working. And even if I don’t get another cent, I’m happy. Why do you guys have to be so smug and skeptical.  Life’s too short …enjoy it..don’t moan about it.  If you gave it a chance you might be surprised :)

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Not all spam is a scam.  Try it before you critizie it.  I got nearly $3000 dollars in the post over the last few days.  That’s more than I thought I would get within 3 months. I don’t know if more is to come but so far it’s working. And even if I don’t get another cent, I’m happy. Why do you guys have to be so smug and skeptical.  Life’s too short …enjoy it..don’t moan about it.  If you gave it a chance you might be surprised :)

It’s still illegal, even if you did get a few bucks.

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Not all spam is a scam.  Try it before you critizie it.  I got nearly $3000 dollars in the post over the last few days.  That’s more than I thought I would get within 3 months. I don’t know if more is to come but so far it’s working. And even if I don’t get another cent, I’m happy. Why do you guys have to be so smug and skeptical.  Life’s too short …enjoy it..don’t moan about it.  If you gave it a chance you might be surprised :) It’s still illegal, even if you did get a few bucks.

That’s why shortly after the postal inspector comes-a-knocking, the IRS isn’t far behind. — Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia taxman at negia.net

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Not all spam is a scam.

And if you believe that i’ve got a bridge in Arizona to sell you.l "Finally a member of the Jackson family finds another young boy to victimize."                          referring to Justin                          Timberlake To send me e-mail exorcise NO Spam from my e-mail address.     —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–

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Peddle your crap somewhere else. Des

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Not all spam is a scam.  Try it before you critizie it.  I got nearly $3000 dollars in the post over the last few days.  That’s more than I thought I would get within 3 months. I don’t know if more is to come but so far it’s working. And even if I don’t get another cent, I’m happy. Why do you guys have to be so smug and skeptical.  Life’s too short …enjoy it..don’t moan about it.  If you gave it a chance you might be surprised :)

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Not all spam is a scam.  Try it before you critizie it.  I got nearly $3000 dollars in the post over the last few days.  That’s more than I thought I would get within 3 months. I don’t know if more is to come but so far it’s working. And even if I don’t get another cent, I’m happy. Why do you guys have to be so smug and skeptical.  Life’s too short …enjoy it..don’t moan about it.  If you gave it a chance you might be surprised :)

your post office box will not be getting my $5 !! I am studying Accounting but do not understand your post.  We haven’t got to the chapter on pyramid schemes yet, so perhaps that explains my lack of understanding. Des

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Make Money Fast and Legally Amazing Cash Flow Program AMAZING INSTANT CASH FLOW PROGRAM THE RESULTS ARE OVERWHELMING!!!! THIS TRULY WORKS!!! Just read through it thoroughly, follow the directions exactly, within 1-3 weeks your CASH FLOW is coming in! Basic Facts A while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of CASH within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00 plus stamps! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam!" But like most of us I was curious and kept reading. It said that if you send US $1.00 bill to each of the 6 names and addresses listed in the article, you could make thousands in a very short period of time. You then place your own name and address at the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article to at least 300 newsgroups. (There are hundreds of thousands of them out there and that’s quite a large market pool). No catch that is it. Even though the investment was a measly $6, I had three questions that needed to be answered before I could get involved in this sort of thing. 1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL? I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I would actually make any CASH but he said it WAS LEGAL if I wanted to try it. I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter but the details of the system (SEE BELOW) actually made it a legitimate legal business. 2. IS OK WITH THE POST OFFICE OR IS IT MAIL FRAUD? I called them: 1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! (See 18, h sections1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws). This clarifies the program of collecting names and addresses for a mailing list. 3. IS IT RIGHT? Well, everyone who sends me a buck has a good chance of getting A LOT of CASH … a much better chance than buying a lottery ticket!!! So, having these questions answered, I invested EXACTLY $7.92 … six $1.00 bills and six 32 cent postage stamps … and boy I’m glad I did!!! Within 7 days, I started getting CASH in the mail! I was shocked! I figured it would end soon and didn’t give it another thought. But the CASH continued coming in. In my first week I made between $20 to $30. By the end of the second week I had a made a total of $1,000.00. In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it was still growing. This is now my fourth week. and I have made a total of just over $42,000 and it’s still coming in ….. It’s certainly worth $6.00 and 6 stamps!!! Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more CASH than you thought possible by doing something so easy! IMPORTANT: This is not a rip off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is virtually no risk it really works!!!! PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or more can be yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your product is not solid and tangible, it’s a service. Here are the 4 easy steps to success: STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Also, place your name address and e-mail address on the sheet of paper. Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent thievery). Place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name, address and e-mail address, and an US $1.00 Bill CURRENCY ONLY. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses: #1) J.E. Grey 245 Stone Bridge Ct. Fredericton, NB E3A 1J2, Canada #2) R. Hanson 1214 Junor Ave. Saskatoon, SK S7L 7K1, Canada #3) Roy Wiley p.o.box 160 South Beach, Ore. 97366 U.S.A. #4) J. Granger p.p. Box 53 Morrisville, PA 19067 #5) Starr Luu 2330 South Quebec St. Apt. 102, Denver, CO 80231 #6) T.N. Meagher 11 Cluain Mhor, Clonmellon, Navan, Co Meath, Ireland Are You Paying Attention? Good. STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc…) and add YOUR NAME as number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 300 newsgroups. All you need is 300, but remember, the more you post, the more CASH you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to 18 Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and, whenever you need CASH, you can use it again, and again. PLEASE REMEMBER: That this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you are a person of integrity, the program will continue and the CASH that so many others have received will come your way. NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might be a good idea to wrap the US $1 Bill CURENCY ONLY in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of CASH in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 (US $1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the list and you’re in business! Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work. ** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the CASH to the rest of the people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that’s after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 6 US $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future CASH. Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW! Also, try to keep a list of everyone that sends you CASH and always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don’t need to cheat the basic idea to make the CASH!! GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from this, which is a ton of extra CASH. Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again… "People have asked me if this is really legal. Well, it is! You are using the Internet to advertise your business. What is that business? You are creating a mailing list of people who are interested in home based computer and online business and methods of generating income at home. Remember, people send you a small fee to be added to your mailing list. It is legal. What will you do with your list of thousands of names? That’s up to you." So, build your mailing list, keep good accounts, declare the income and pay your taxes. By doing this you prove your business intentions. Keep an eye on the newsgroups and when the cash has stopped coming (that means your name is no longer on the list), you just take the latest posting at the newsgroups, send another US $6.00 to the names stated on the list, make your corrections (put your name at #6) and start posting again. NOTES: *1. In some countries, the export of the country’s exchange is illegal. But you can get the license to do this from the post office, explaining the above statements (that you have an online business, etc. You may have to pay an extra tax, but that’s OK, the amount of the incoming CASH is HUGE! And as I said, a few countries have that restriction . *2. You may want to buy mailing and e- mail lists for future CASH.

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Not all spam is a scam.  Try it before you critizie it.  I got nearly $3000 dollars in the post over the last few days.  That’s more than I thought I would get within 3 months. I don’t know if more is to come but so far it’s working. And even if I don’t get another cent, I’m happy. Why do you guys have to be so smug and skeptical.  Life’s too short …enjoy it..don’t moan about it.  If you gave it a chance you might be surprised :)

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its till a scam and you are still a scifosa

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I am studying Accounting but do not understand your post.  We haven’t got to the chapter on pyramid schemes yet, so perhaps that explains my lack of understanding. Des

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Make Money Fast and Legally Amazing Cash Flow Program AMAZING INSTANT CASH FLOW PROGRAM THE RESULTS ARE OVERWHELMING!!!! THIS TRULY WORKS!!! Just read through it thoroughly, follow the directions exactly, within 1-3 weeks your CASH FLOW is coming in! Basic Facts A while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of CASH within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00 plus stamps! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam!" But like most of us I was curious and kept reading. It said that if you send US $1.00 bill to each of the 6 names and addresses listed in the article, you could make thousands in a very short period of time. You then place your own name and address at the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article to at least 300 newsgroups. (There are hundreds of thousands of them out there and that’s quite a large market pool). No catch that is it. Even though the investment was a measly $6, I had three questions that needed to be answered before I could get involved in this sort of thing. 1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL? I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I would actually make any CASH but he said it WAS LEGAL if I wanted to try it. I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter but the details of the system (SEE BELOW) actually made it a legitimate legal business. 2. IS OK WITH THE POST OFFICE OR IS IT MAIL FRAUD? I called them: 1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! (See 18, h sections1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws). This clarifies the program of collecting names and addresses for a mailing list. 3. IS IT RIGHT? Well, everyone who sends me a buck has a good chance of getting A LOT of CASH … a much better chance than buying a lottery ticket!!! So, having these questions answered, I invested EXACTLY $7.92 … six $1.00 bills and six 32 cent postage stamps … and boy I’m glad I did!!! Within 7 days, I started getting CASH in the mail! I was shocked! I figured it would end soon and didn’t give it another thought. But the CASH continued coming in. In my first week I made between $20 to $30. By the end of the second week I had a made a total of $1,000.00. In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it was still growing. This is now my fourth week. and I have made a total of just over $42,000 and it’s still coming in ….. It’s certainly worth $6.00 and 6 stamps!!! Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more CASH than you thought possible by doing something so easy! IMPORTANT: This is not a rip off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is virtually no risk it really works!!!! PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or more can be yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your product is not solid and tangible, it’s a service. Here are the 4 easy steps to success: STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Also, place your name address and e-mail address on the sheet of paper. Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent thievery). Place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name, address and e-mail address, and an US $1.00 Bill CURRENCY ONLY. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses: #1) J.E. Grey 245 Stone Bridge Ct. Fredericton, NB E3A 1J2, Canada #2) R. Hanson 1214 Junor Ave. Saskatoon, SK S7L 7K1, Canada #3) Roy Wiley p.o.box 160 South Beach, Ore. 97366 U.S.A. #4) J. Granger p.p. Box 53 Morrisville, PA 19067 #5) Starr Luu 2330 South Quebec St. Apt. 102, Denver, CO 80231 #6) T.N. Meagher 11 Cluain Mhor, Clonmellon, Navan, Co Meath, Ireland Are You Paying Attention? Good. STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc…) and add YOUR NAME as number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 300 newsgroups. All you need is 300, but remember, the more you post, the more CASH you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to 18 Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and, whenever you need CASH, you can use it again, and again. PLEASE REMEMBER: That this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you are a person of integrity, the program will continue and the CASH that so many others have received will come your way. NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might be a good idea to wrap the US $1 Bill CURENCY ONLY in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of CASH in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 (US $1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the list and you’re in business! Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work. ** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the CASH to the rest of the people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that’s after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 6 US $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future CASH. Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW! Also, try to keep a list of everyone that sends you CASH and always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don’t need to cheat the basic idea to make the CASH!! GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from this, which is a ton of extra CASH. Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again… "People have asked me if this is really legal. Well, it is! You are using the Internet to advertise your business. What is that business? You are creating a mailing list of people who are interested in home based computer and online business and methods of generating income at home. Remember, people send you a small fee to be added to your mailing list. It is legal. What will you do with your list of thousands of names? That’s up to you." So, build your mailing list, keep good accounts, declare the income and pay your taxes. By doing this you prove your business intentions. Keep an eye on the newsgroups and when the cash has stopped coming (that means your name is no longer on the list), you just take the latest posting at the newsgroups, send another US $6.00 to the names stated on the list, make your corrections (put your name at #6) and start posting again. NOTES: *1. In some countries, the export of the country’s exchange is illegal. But you can get the license to do this from the post office, explaining the above statements (that you have an online business, etc. You may have to pay an extra tax, but that’s OK, the amount of the incoming CASH is HUGE! And as I said, a few countries have that restriction . *2. You may want to buy mailing and e- mail lists for future CASH. (Database or Spreadsheet software.) *3. If you’re really not sure or still think this can’t be for real, please print a copy of this article and give it to someone who really needs the CASH, and see what happens. *4. You will start getting responses within 1-2 weeks, it depends on how much you are posting, the more you post, the better the response will be. ***ALSO REMEMBER***SEND US $1 BILL CURRENCY ONLY!!!—OUT TO EVERYONE ON THE LIST, EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT FROM THE U.S.

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Lap dancing didn’t help finance my PhD but a $6 investment did.  Also, we have saying in Ireland, "before you make up your mind..open it". But I guess they don’t teach you that in ‘counting school’ do they !!

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| 1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL? | | I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I | would actually make any CASH but he said it WAS LEGAL

It’s not.  It’s called a pyramid scheme and is illegal. | 245 Stone Bridge Ct. Fredericton, NB E3A 1J2, Canada | 1214 Junor Ave. Saskatoon, SK S7L 7K1, Canada | 11 Cluain Mhor, Clonmellon, Navan, Co Meath, Ireland

Postage to Canada twice, postage to Ireland.  More than if they went to the US. | All you need is 300, but remember, the more you post, the more CASH | you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to 18 | Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws.

Despite this it is still illegal in the US. | PLEASE REMEMBER: That this program remains successful because of the | honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully | adhering to the directions.

And it is successful becuase in the words of someone famous there is a sucker born every minute. | NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, | either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. | This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service.

Yeah. That service is called fraud. | Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again…

And if you believe they’re going to declare this income i’ve got a bridge in Arizona to sell you. "Finally a member of the Jackson family finds another young boy to victimize."                          referring to Justin                          Timberlake To send me e-mail exorcise NO Spam from my e-mail address.     —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–

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tessa stick with lap dancing

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Even a newbie accountant will recognise this as the scam it really is. Ken Russell

| Make Money Fast and Legally | Amazing Cash Flow Program | AMAZING INSTANT CASH FLOW PROGRAM | | THE RESULTS ARE OVERWHELMING!!!! | | THIS TRULY WORKS!!! Just read through it thoroughly, follow the | directions exactly, within 1-3 weeks your CASH FLOW is coming in! | | Basic Facts A while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like | you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you | could make thousands of CASH within weeks with only an initial | investment of $6.00 plus stamps! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must | be a scam!" But like most of us I was curious and kept reading. It | said that if you send US $1.00 bill to each of the 6 names and | addresses listed in the article, you could make thousands in a very | short period of time. You then place your own name and address at the | bottom of the list at #6, and post the article to at least 300 | newsgroups. (There are hundreds of thousands of them out there and | that’s quite a large market pool). No catch that is it. Even though | the investment was a measly $6, I had three questions that needed to | be answered before I could get involved in this sort of thing. | | 1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL? | | I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I | would actually make any CASH but he said it WAS LEGAL if I wanted to | try it. I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter but the | details of the system (SEE BELOW) actually made it a legitimate legal | business. | | 2. IS OK WITH THE POST OFFICE OR IS IT MAIL FRAUD? | | I called them: 1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS ABSOLUTELY | LEGAL! (See 18, h sections1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws). This | clarifies the program of collecting names and addresses for a mailing | list. | | 3. IS IT RIGHT? | | Well, everyone who sends me a buck has a good chance of getting A LOT | of CASH … a much better chance than buying a lottery ticket!!! So, | having these questions answered, I invested EXACTLY $7.92 … six | $1.00 bills and six 32 cent postage stamps … and boy I’m glad I | did!!! Within 7 days, I started getting CASH in the mail! I was | shocked! I figured it would end soon and didn’t give it another | thought. But the CASH continued coming in. In my first week I made | between $20 to $30. By the end of the second week I had a made a total | of $1,000.00. In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it was still | growing. This is now my fourth week. and I have made a total of just | over $42,000 and it’s still coming in ….. It’s certainly worth $6.00 | and 6 stamps!!! | | Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get | the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you | follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more CASH | than you thought possible by doing something so easy! | | IMPORTANT: This is not a rip off; it is not indecent; it is not | illegal; and it is virtually no risk it really works!!!! | | PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or | more can be yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful | because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please | continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You | will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your | product is not solid and tangible, it’s a service. | | Here are the 4 easy steps to success: | | STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each | piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Also, place your | name address and e-mail address on the sheet of paper. Now get 6 US | $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the | bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent thievery). | Place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You should | now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the | above phrase, your name, address and e-mail address, and an US $1.00 | Bill CURRENCY ONLY. What you are doing is | creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a | legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us I was a | little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it | all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) | and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Mail the 6 envelopes to | the following addresses: | | | #1) J.E. Grey | 245 Stone Bridge Ct. Fredericton, NB E3A 1J2, Canada | | #2) R. Hanson | 1214 Junor Ave. Saskatoon, SK S7L 7K1, Canada | | #3) Roy Wiley | p.o.box 160 South Beach, Ore. 97366 U.S.A. | | #4) J. Granger | p.p. Box 53 Morrisville, PA 19067 | | #5) Starr Luu | 2330 South Quebec St. Apt. 102, Denver, CO 80231 | | #6) T.N. Meagher | 11 Cluain Mhor, Clonmellon, Navan, Co Meath, Ireland | | Are You Paying Attention? Good. STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the | list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 | becomes 4, etc…) and add YOUR NAME as number 6 on the list. | | STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as | close to original as | possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 300 newsgroups. | All you need is 300, but remember, the more you post, the more CASH | you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to 18 | Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these | steps for yourself and, whenever you need CASH, you can use it again, | and again. | | PLEASE REMEMBER: That this program remains successful because of the | honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully | adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you are a person | of integrity, the program will continue and the CASH that so many | others have received will come your way. | NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, | either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. | This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might | be a good idea to wrap the US $1 Bill CURENCY ONLY in dark paper to | reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the | directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for | their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your | name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name | reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of CASH in | CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 (US $1.00 for each of the | first six people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the | list and you’re in business! | | Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work. | | ** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages | with your name in the list and not sending the CASH to the rest of the | people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked | to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and | that’s after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 6 US $1.00 bills, | people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. | This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the | wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! You also | may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future CASH. Make sure | you print this article out RIGHT NOW! Also, try to keep a list of | everyone that sends you CASH and always keep an eye on the newsgroups | to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST | POLICY. You don’t need to cheat the basic idea to make | the CASH!! GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge | rewards from this, which is a ton of extra CASH. | | Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again… | | "People have asked me if this is really legal. Well, it is! You are | using the Internet to advertise your business. What is that business? | You are creating a mailing list of people who are interested in home | based computer and online business and methods of generating income at | home. Remember, people send you a small fee to be added to your | mailing list. It is legal. What will you do with your list of | thousands of names? That’s up to you." So, build your mailing list, | keep good accounts, declare the income and pay your taxes. By doing | this you prove your business intentions. Keep an eye on the newsgroups | and when the cash has stopped coming (that means your name is no | longer on the list), you just take the latest posting at the | newsgroups, send another US $6.00 to the names stated on the list, | make your corrections (put your name at #6) and start posting again. | | NOTES: *1. In some countries, the export of the country’s exchange is | illegal. But you can get the license to do this from the post office, | explaining the above statements (that you have an online business, | etc. You may have to pay an extra tax, but that’s OK, the amount of | the incoming CASH is HUGE! And as I said, a few countries have that | restriction . *2. You may want to buy mailing and e- mail lists for | future CASH. (Database or Spreadsheet software.) *3. If you’re really | not sure or still think this can’t be for real, please print a copy of | this article and give it to someone who really needs the CASH, and see | what happens. *4. You will start getting responses within 1-2 weeks, | it depends on how much you are posting, the more you post, the better | the response will be. | | ***ALSO REMEMBER***SEND US $1 BILL CURRENCY ONLY!!!—OUT TO EVERYONE | ON THE LIST, EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT FROM THE U.S. — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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Make Money Fast and Legally Amazing Cash Flow Program AMAZING INSTANT CASH FLOW PROGRAM THE RESULTS ARE OVERWHELMING!!!! THIS TRULY WORKS!!! Just read through it thoroughly, follow the directions exactly, within 1-3 weeks your CASH FLOW is coming in! Basic Facts A while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of CASH within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00 plus stamps! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam!" But like most of us I was curious and kept reading. It said that if you send US $1.00 bill to each of the 6 names and addresses listed in the article, you could make thousands in a very short period of time. You then place your own name and address at the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article to at least 300 newsgroups. (There are hundreds of thousands of them out there and that’s quite a large market pool). No catch that is it. Even though the investment was a measly $6, I had three questions that needed to be answered before I could get involved in this sort of thing. 1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL? I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I would actually make any CASH but he said it WAS LEGAL if I wanted to try it. I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter but the details of the system (SEE BELOW) actually made it a legitimate legal business. 2. IS OK WITH THE POST OFFICE OR IS IT MAIL FRAUD? I called them: 1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! (See 18, h sections1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws). This clarifies the program of collecting names and addresses for a mailing list. 3. IS IT RIGHT? Well, everyone who sends me a buck has a good chance of getting A LOT of CASH … a much better chance than buying a lottery ticket!!! So, having these questions answered, I invested EXACTLY $7.92 … six $1.00 bills and six 32 cent postage stamps … and boy I’m glad I did!!! Within 7 days, I started getting CASH in the mail! I was shocked! I figured it would end soon and didn’t give it another thought. But the CASH continued coming in. In my first week I made between $20 to $30. By the end of the second week I had a made a total of $1,000.00. In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it was still growing. This is now my fourth week. and I have made a total of just over $42,000 and it’s still coming in ….. It’s certainly worth $6.00 and 6 stamps!!! Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more CASH than you thought possible by doing something so easy! IMPORTANT: This is not a rip off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is virtually no risk it really works!!!! PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or more can be yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your product is not solid and tangible, it’s a service. Here are the 4 easy steps to success: STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Also, place your name address and e-mail address on the sheet of paper. Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent thievery). Place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name, address and e-mail address, and an US $1.00 Bill CURRENCY ONLY. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses: #1) J.E. Grey 245 Stone Bridge Ct. Fredericton, NB E3A 1J2, Canada #2) R. Hanson 1214 Junor Ave. Saskatoon, SK S7L 7K1, Canada #3) Roy Wiley p.o.box 160 South Beach, Ore. 97366 U.S.A. #4) J. Granger p.p. Box 53 Morrisville, PA 19067 #5) Starr Luu 2330 South Quebec St. Apt. 102, Denver, CO 80231 #6) T.N. Meagher 11 Cluain Mhor, Clonmellon, Navan, Co Meath, Ireland Are You Paying Attention? Good. STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc…) and add YOUR NAME as number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 300 newsgroups. All you need is 300, but remember, the more you post, the more CASH you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to 18 Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and, whenever you need CASH, you can use it again, and again. PLEASE REMEMBER: That this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you are a person of integrity, the program will continue and the CASH that so many others have received will come your way. NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might be a good idea to wrap the US $1 Bill CURENCY ONLY in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of CASH in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 (US $1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the list and you’re in business! Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work. ** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the CASH to the rest of the people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that’s after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 6 US $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future CASH. Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW! Also, try to keep a list of everyone that sends you CASH and always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don’t need to cheat the basic idea to make the CASH!! GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from this, which is a ton of extra CASH. Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again… "People have asked me if this is really legal. Well, it is! You are using the Internet to advertise your business. What is that business? You are creating a mailing list of people who are interested in home based computer and online business and methods of generating income at home. Remember, people send you a small fee to be added to your mailing list. It is legal. What will you do with your list of thousands of names? That’s up to you." So, build your mailing list, keep good accounts, declare the income and pay your taxes. By doing this you prove your business intentions. Keep an eye on the newsgroups and when the cash has stopped coming (that means your name is no longer on the list), you just take the latest posting at the newsgroups, send another US $6.00 to the names stated on the list, make your corrections (put your name at #6) and start posting again. NOTES: *1. In some countries, the export of the country’s exchange is illegal. But you can get the license to do this from the post office, explaining the above statements (that you have an online business, etc. You may have to pay an extra tax, but that’s OK, the amount of the incoming CASH is HUGE! And as I said, a few countries have that restriction . *2. You may want to buy mailing and e- mail lists for future CASH. (Database or Spreadsheet software.) *3. If you’re really not sure or still think this can’t be for real, please print a copy of this article and give it to someone who really needs the CASH, and see what happens. *4. You will start getting responses within 1-2 weeks, it depends on how much you are posting, the more you post, the better the response will be. ***ALSO REMEMBER***SEND US $1 BILL CURRENCY ONLY!!!—OUT TO EVERYONE ON THE LIST, EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT FROM THE U.S.

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Form 3115 – Changing accounting method

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I would like (need) to change my accounting method from a modified cash basis to accrual.  Has anyone here done that before?  Can I do it myself or should I get help with it from a CPA?  Can the instructions be any more confusing? Thanks for any help. Paul remove second pvm for reply

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I would like (need) to change my accounting method from a modified cash basis to accrual.  Has anyone here done that before?  Can I do it myself or should I get help with it from a CPA?  Can the instructions be any more confusing? Thanks for any help.

If you find the instructions confusing, I would strongly suggest you retain a tax pro like a CPA or EA to assist you. Tom –Solving your tax and business problems with Professional Service…Personal Attention Web: http://www.tomhealycpa.com

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fish in other languages

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irish gaelic: iasc

That’s like the international accounting standards committee. Maybe they should wear fish symbols, like the early church. Uncle Davey

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irish gaelic: iasc

In French it is "poisson", which looks a lot like the English word "poison". Of course, in German "poison" is "Gift".  I think there is a moral here, and that is to beware of someone from the EU bearing gifts of fish. — Todd Stephens

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Paxil popping french freaks hang themselves

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20010410/hl/france_suicide_1.html PARIS (Reuters) – French women prefer to swallow pills to end it all and French men prefer to shoot themselves, but hanging is still the most popular way of committing suicide in France, according to a study published on Tuesday. Suicide is the number one cause of death for people between 25 and 34 years of age, said the study by a department of the labour ministry. Below that age group, car accidents top the list for claiming lives. Men take their own lives three times as often as women in a country where about 11,000 people commit suicide every year. The study said the genuine suicide rate could be 25 percent higher than official records show. Overall, 38 percent of suicides were hangings. Men were much more prone to use a gun, which was the second most frequent way of committing suicide, accounting for one in four cases overall. Drug overdoses trailed in third, in 15 percent of suicides. Four in every 10 men killed themselves by hanging, while 30 percent shoot themselves. Fewer than one in 10 women ended their lives with a gunshot. I always said the less French the better. Truer words have never been spoken.

Agreed.  Damn skippy!

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Johan M. Olofsson  - have you always been such a retard ?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20010410/hl/france_suicide_1.html PARIS (Reuters) – French women prefer to swallow pills to end it all and French men prefer to shoot themselves, but hanging is still the most popular way of committing suicide in France, according to a study published on Tuesday. Suicide is the number one cause of death for people between 25 and 34 years of age, said the study by a department of the labour ministry. Below that age group, car accidents top the list for claiming lives. Men take their own lives three times as often as women in a country where about 11,000 people commit suicide every year. The study said the genuine suicide rate could be 25 percent higher than official records show. Overall, 38 percent of suicides were hangings. Men were much more prone to use a gun, which was the second most frequent way of committing suicide, accounting for one in four cases overall. Drug overdoses trailed in third, in 15 percent of suicides. Four in every 10 men killed themselves by hanging, while 30 percent shoot themselves. Fewer than one in 10 women ended their lives with a gunshot.

I always said the less French the better. — There is no *Gravity*, the Earth just *Sucks*!!!!

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Inventory prog–which is best for me??

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Hi Frank – We have two non-modular designed products, called Accware & Accware Online supports point-of-sales, bar code scanners, credit card processing, unlimited products, has a lot of user customizeable features, printouts and reports just to name a few. They both have two versions, one "standard" and one ‘lite" for retail. New lower pricing will be announced by 06-Oct-00 for the retail version. Currently Accware Lite MSRP $249 and Accware Online Lite $459.00 will become ~ $99.00 & ~ $150.00 respectively for 1 user license.

internship

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My daughter has been offered an internship with Pricewaterhouse Coopers for next summer.  Is this usually a good thing to do? —

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My daughter has been offered an internship with Pricewaterhouse Coopers for next summer.  Is this usually a good thing to do? —

Could be.  Depends on what she expects from the experience. More information would be helpful. — Jim Hudspeth, CFE, CPA http://home.att.net/~jdhcpa/mainpage.html Washington, USA

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I had an internship with a larger local CPA firm two and a half years ago, and it was a great experience.  Most accounting students I’ve known who have had internships would agree.  The advantages are that she’ll have a much better picture of what to expect when working fulltime then she would without the internship.  Some decide after internships that public accounting is not for them.  It’s also a great foot in the door toward a job with PWC after graduation. Anthony

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My daughter has been offered an internship with Pricewaterhouse Coopers for next summer.  Is this usually a good thing to do? — Could be.  Depends on what she expects from the experience. More information would be helpful. — Jim Hudspeth, CFE, CPA http://home.att.net/~jdhcpa/mainpage.html Washington, USA

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Yes, tell her to go for it. Most likely it will cost her nothing and she will get some exposure to the real working life.  IMHO it would be a grave error to pass the opportunity buy. My daughter has been offered an internship with Pricewaterhouse Coopers for next summer.  Is this usually a good thing to do? —

– *             Ronald Lee Todd M.B.A., C.P.A.                  * *                                                             * *  Unemployed five years, and really beginning to enjoy it.   * *                                                             * *                   Ayn Rand was right                        *

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My daughter has been offered an internship with Pricewaterhouse Coopers for next summer.  Is this usually a good thing to do?

Yes, it is usually a good thing to do. In fact, the opinion of internships is high enough that many business schools are requiring their students to have a meaningful internship before graduating. easy2000

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Looking For Accounting Mailing Lists

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Greetings         Anyone know where I can find some good accounting mailing lists? Thanks Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Greetings        Anyone know where I can find some good accounting mailing lists? Thanks

There aren’t any.  Not that I can find, anyway. The ones I’ve seen are very low volume and didn’t seem to be talking about anything relevant to accounting in small businesses. My web page has some accounting mailing lists, at the bottom of the page: http://www.gldialtone.com/forums.htm The above list contains 40 accounting web forums, rock out. You’ll certaily find the topic you want among those.  You’ll never have time for all of them! Todd

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Is this really Spam?

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Art sed:  Well…you asked…I’ve lurked here for quite awhile before I started to pu in my 2 cents trying to help anyone looking for an answer wherever I could.

Hey Art, John Gunterman pointed me (us) towards a link on your Web site with all kinds of goodies that should be included in the FAQ.  It covers moisture content, figuring board foot measure, air drying and that age old question "whatz 5/4". http://www.empirehardwood.com/factsformula.htm This page alone would cut down some of the rehashed subject lines considerably. Now don’t get me wrong, I do sell lumber for a living, see my website address down there?

A man’s got to make a living. But you gotta pitch in and help it can’t be all take and no give.

Well said. I designed my site with useful "woodworker information" for those who care to visit, it’s not all buy, buy, buy. Service the industry and they’ll help you survive. Keep taking and taking and pretty soon you’ll be seen as a Mr. Haney type only looking out for yourself.

I coulnd’t agree more.  Funny when you help people out the pay back can’t be quantified.  It’s there, it’s just kinda hard to show to the accountants.  Must be their eye sight. Seems if you post once a month with your wares you don’t get too much heat, more than that and your just a door to door salesman, no follow up, no help, no input. Dedicate some time to looking in here often enough and you’ll find a pretty tight bunch and somebody might buy a stick or two. Good Luck. Art Empire Hardwood Trading Co. Website: http://www.empirehardwood.com

Well said Art.  I think we all benefit from professionals participating in the group.  If you end up making a buck cause you posted a link to your page it’s A.O.K. with me.  Now if we could just get rid of the "gee whiz lookee what I just found" postings that so insult our collective intelligence… Keith Bohn b2d

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What’s wrong with someone trying to sell some lumber in this newgroup?  What about commercial free speech?

Well let’s see, first of all you need to understand that your not in the United States right now your in the Internet.  Which is not to say you don’t have the freedoms you are used to enjoying, it’s just that you don’t have any rights. On the otherhand I would agree that worrying about some guy trying to sell some wood on rec.woodworking is straining the definition of spam in light of recent posts proclaiming undrage nude cheerleaders or what have you.

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What’s wrong with someone trying to sell some lumber in this newgroup?  What web-based newsreading       I don’t think anything is wrong with selling a product or service within reasonable limits. What I took exception to were the fake endorsements. If some one posts " Hi, I’m —- I have some custom made —– if you’re interested ……" That’s honest. IMHO that would be ok. Posts like the sawmill post, or the guy that asnswered every inquiry with but a sales pitch. That’s the kind of stuff that’s down right insulting to the intelligence of the reader. "I’ve got a nice stash of lumber at reasonable prices" would have gotten over a lot better with me and probably a lot of others as well.  Clayton

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What’s wrong with someone trying to sell some lumber in this newgroup?  What about commercial free speech?

  Well…you asked…I’ve lurked here for quite awhile before I started to pu in my 2 cents trying to help anyone looking for an answer wherever I could. Now don’t get me wrong, I do sell lumber for a living, see my website address down there? But you gotta pitch in and help it can’t be all take and no give. I designed my site with useful "woodworker information" for those who care to visit, it’s not all buy, buy, buy. Service the industry and they’ll help you survive. Keep taking and taking and pretty soon you’ll be seen as a Mr. Haney type only looking out for yourself. Seems if you post once a month with your wares you don’t get too much heat, more than that and your just a door to door salesman, no follow up, no help, no input. Dedicate some time to looking in here often enough and you’ll find a pretty tight bunch and somebody might buy a stick or two. Good Luck. Art Empire Hardwood Trading Co. Website: http://www.empirehardwood.com

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What’s wrong with someone trying to sell some lumber in this newgroup?  What about commercial free speech?

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What’s wrong with someone trying to sell some lumber in this newgroup?  What about commercial free speech?

Oh, jeez, are we gonna hafta explain this AGAIN for the forty-lebenth time !! NEWBIES–Aaaaarrggghhh !!!.

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to reply be email, see .sig What’s wrong with someone trying to sell some lumber in this newgroup?  What about commercial free speech?

http://spam.abuse.net/spam/spambad.html will get you up to speed on the many reasons that spam is unwelcome in any discussion newsgroup. There are newsgroups specifically for selling. In the rec.* discussion-only newsgroups, such as rec.ww, the charter forbids commercials. One reason is that many followers of the group must pay for each local access connection, plus pay per unit of connection time. That means they have to pay to download a commercial, or at least the header. (Some newsreaders do not offer the option of looking at headers and choosing which bodies to download–they download all or nothing.) That amounts, indirectly, to having to pay an advertiser to read his ad. That’s unfair to the newsgroup follower. There are acceptable ways of advertising on the USENET. They may be found in the articles in news.announce.newusers Chuck To reply, properly format the following: cwuest at ibm dot net My apologies for the inconvenience that spammers have wrought.

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New Accountancy Service

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We are now able to offer on line accountancy services for the UK and with our associates also Canada and the U.S.A. If you are fed up with only having figures at the year end or want to be part of the most modern accounting system visit our web site at http://151.196.77.240/mall/ptrfs.htm and try the on line demo. If you want

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Howdy! What do YOU do for a living?

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I am a travel agent specializing in Hawaii and the South Pacific. My job is a lot of fun as I send people away on vacations, although it can sometimes be stressful. I am in control of my diabetes thanks to a great diabetes educator and my one touch with help from glucophage, glyburide and insulin. All three work better than any one alone. I eat alot of what I want except of course not sugar and watch my carbs (fresh bread has always been my downfall more so than cake and candy).

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Hi, I’m 31. Diagnosed 3 months ago & still trying to get my head round it! I’m a Product Specialist for IBM. Lots of travelling, lots of hotels. I’m beginning to wonder if this particular job & IDDM go together very well. Does anyone else out there do a large amount of business travelling? Care to share your experiences? Simon. —

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Hi, I have been diagnosed type I this spring, so I cannot share a lot of experience but rather still make my own ones. I am 32 years old, married, and a computer scientist at the University of Bonn in Germany, working on a European Union project on advanced databases and writing a doctoral thesis on reflective schema evolution in object-oriented databases. In spare time, I like getting out with my wife, read books, listen to music, and traveling if time allows it. I recently came back from a camping holidays – I learned a lot of things which could go wrong, but I hope I also learned my lessons for the next trip. Interesting thread. Hope it continues… Best regards,         Thomas

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What a wonderful idea!!  I am a special education teacher.  I taught first and second grade special education for the last 5 years, and am helping to open a new school for fifth and sixth graders this year.  Talk about stress!!  Luckily I have the greatest team in the world, and I get to help kids accept their curse.  This year there are three kids at my school of 600+ with Diabetes.  They help me so much, and I think that I help them, because they see that it does not ruin your life, or keep you from achieving your dreams!!  I love all of the different and exciting jobs that everyone has. Kristen Nance

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I apologiize for only answering the off topic portion of Tanya’s message a few hours ago.  To rectify the oversight: I’m a practicing attorney  and have been so for 22 years (all with type 1 DM)  I started in Private practice in a large frim, became a City Attorney for about 10 years and returned to Private practice a few years ago. IDDM, dx’d 6/72, MI (R & UL)

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Recently I’ve been having some high readings first thing in the morning.  Can anyone explain the dawn spike or give me suggestions? Thanks.

Probably either Somogyi or dawn effect.  The former is a rebound from low bgs occuring in one’s sleep (say 3 am or so) and the later is caused by hormonal stimulation of the body preparing for the upcoming day.   somogyi tends to be the more extreme of the two.  Other possibilities are gastroparesis or eating a great deal of protein or high fat foods prior to bedtime. (fat slows digestion and absobtion and a significant percentage of the protein can convert to sugar via the krebs cycle. Best regards, IDDM, dx’d 6/72, MI (R & UL)

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I’m enjoying this thread,  as I’ve been curious too.  I teach English at a small New England College at the other end of town.  I’m on a three-day teaching schedule and spend the other two days grading papers and trying to catch up generally.  So the days I’m not at the college are manageable, but I have to get ‘reasonable accommodation’ by ensuring that meetings are held where I can get food when I come out of three hours of teaching. I was diagnosed in my twenties, and I’m now thirty-eight.  I’m very sedentary overall, and that’s part of the reason for my so-so control.  I also have some gastroparesis.  Recently I’ve been having some high readings first thing in the morning.  Can anyone explain the dawn spike or give me suggestions? Thanks. Tanya

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I’m just curious what kind of careers most here have?  Outdoor active? Office?  Emergency Response?  Shoe Sales? Howdy group,  

 I’m a industrial & commercial HVAC/R Tech. 3rd. Year apprentice. Heating,Ventilation,Air Conditioning, & Refrigeration. I work on boilers water chillers, Roof top units, stuff like that. I also do some work on the control side, Mostly Pneumatics but I have   been  getting more into the digital controls. I’ts a very interesting trade. One that I would recommend to anyone with Gen. Mech. skills. I am also a full time student. I completed 16 units last Sem. W/ a GPA 3.1 I have recently became a pump wearer. What do I think ?? I love it. Don’t want to ever go back to injections. Hobbies include: Eating Nutrasweet by the pound and reading betty post. ~Eric~ 28 / IDDM All but 3yrs of my life

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. . . website!:    http://www.demon.co.uk/comicshop/index.html . . . I can sit here writing this, without looking over my shoulder and having to justify how I spend my time!

Knock, knock — is any one there, all I want is to donate my complete collection of "Superman Comics" to someone who would appreciate them, yoo-hoo, you there on the computer get your butt over here . . . My only job in life is getting rid of the money that accumulates faster than me and my love_me_for_my_charm trophy wife can spend. Act like a dumbshit and they’ll treat you like an equal. (Economicon)

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I am an electrical controls engineer & department manager. Type II, diet contol (so far – so good). Still trying to get real good control. Love computers, am also a volunteer firefighter and a volunteer Emergency Medical Technician. Bob

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I’m just curious what kind of careers most here have?  Outdoor active? Office?  Emergency Response?  Shoe Sales? Howdy group,  

 I’m a industrial & commercial HVAC/R Tech. 3rd. Year apprentice. Heating,Ventilation,Air Conditioning, & Refrigeration. I work on boilers water chillers, Roof top units, stuff like that. I also do some work on the control side, Mostly Pneumatics but I have   been  getting more into the digital controls. I’ts a very interesting trade. One that I would recommend to anyone with Gen. Mech. skills. I am also a full time student. I completed 16 units last Sem. W/ a GPA 3.1 I have recently became a pump wearer. What do I think ?? I love it. Don’t want to ever go back to injections. Hobbies include: Eating Nutrasweet by the pound and reading betty post. ~Eric~ 28 / IDDM All but 3yrs of my life

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I manifested type I diabetes about 6 years ago at the age of 26.  It happened right after I started work as a TV News Photographer.  I shot News for four years before moving into commercial production (better family hours). I was diagnosed 6 years ago at the age of 25. (Pretty close!) I’m now 31, father of two kids under 5 and run my own business, a comic shop.

Hi I too was diagnosed 6 years ago at the age of 25 (how’s that – it must have been something in the air!!) I work for the South African Broadcasting Corp for radio advertising. I write a newsletter to promote advertising on SABC radio. It is interesting times what with deregulation. Our radio stations are being re-named and have names such as Radio Ukhozi (Radio Zulu) Umhlobo wakho wenene (Radio Xhosa) and Phalalphala FM (Radio Venda) etc. The advertising industry is still mostly white (but this is changing) and it is quite amusing hearing them trying to pronounce the station names! As an aside – one of our sports presenters just came back from Atlanta. He asked the South African winner of the marathon to sign one of his shirts. Josiah Thugwane was horrified saying he couldn’t ruin such a nice shirt. The sports presenter insisted and he bought the shirt home and gave it to his domestic helper as a present explaining that it had the signature of the first black South African ever to win a gold medal at the Olympics. A couple of hours later she proudly showed him how she had managed to wash out the pen!! – I love the irony, so uniquely South African. A good weekend to all Nicci

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On 6 Aug 1996 lbm0002 said:    Howdy Yourself!  I was an English teacher til I found I don’t like    kids (other than my own).  Now I am a writer. Mary…. What do you write?  (Titles and or genre?) You see, I’m not a writer…. But I sure love reading `[1;33;44m "Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business" It’s not just reality that matters. `[1;31;46mNet-Tamer V 1.04 – Registered

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I am a type II and a computer programmer, very sedentary.  I have hobbies of model railroading ( more sedentary), and living history (sometimes very active).  I was diagnosed in November of 95.

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Well, this should be an interesting thread. I myself am soon to be 46 yo and have been diag. type II for two years. I’ve had a few interesting jobs myself, well driller, bicycle tire molder, telephone solicitor (six hours, I guess I have morals, but I really needed the money then). Currently, despite holding a BIArch and a MArch, I work for the Department of Oregon State Police, Oregon Emergency Management.  I coordinate the Oregon SARA Title III planning efforts (planning for hazardous materials spills – an outgrowth of the Bophal India incident). In that vein, I provide staff support to the Interagency Hazards Communication Council, the State Emergency Response Commission (SERC) and the Local Emergency Planning Committee (LEPC) to do hazardous materials emergency response planning. I oversee about $180,000 a year in grants and other funding to devlop and deliver hazardous materials planning, planner training, and response training in Oregon. Currently I have several projects ongoing such as a series of twenty-five day long planning sessions around the state to bring facility operators and first responders together to review their emergency response plans to assure they are in agreement.  We will be using model plans and other documents that I coordinated the development of and paid for with my grants. Also, I am developing legislation for the upcomming legislative session that will restructure the Emergency Management structure in the State, developing a six year training plan, writing next years grants, putting on a number of classes and overseeing the development of several others. In my spare time, I sleep. Jim Mazza

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Just a note to say Hello.  My name is Brent–like some other poor sot in this group–but you can call me BJ if that clears things up. I manifested type I diabetes about 6 years ago at the age of 26.  It happened right after I started work as a TV News Photographer.  I shot News for four years before moving into commercial production (better family hours).

I was diagnosed 6 years ago at the age of 25. (Pretty close!) I’m now 31, father of two kids under 5 and run my own business, a comic shop. (see our lame website! http://www.demon.co.uk/comicshop/index.html   It’s not the greatest job in the world but at least I can plan my day around my diabetes instead of having to fit my condition into someone else’s timetable. Plus I can sit here writing this, without looking over my shoulder and having to justify how I spend my time! — Jon Browne

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Howdy, all. I am a 48 yo female, diagnosed with type II 14 years ago. I am a retired school teacher who currently works for a pension fund here on Long Island (New York). I love my job, as much as you can love a job. It is stress free. I forget about it when I walk out the door. I analyze documents, and process them for ultimate payment of pension benefits. I live about 1/2 mile from work, and I go home for lunch everyday. This makes controlling my diabetes much easier. I am a vegetarian who eats dairy (fat free only), and eggs (egg scramblers). How could I possibly brown bag my bulgur wheat, or my lentils? Until 5 years ago, I ate like a pig, and weighed in at around 250 (I think…I stopped weighing myself at 225). Today I weigh around 155-160. I have been reading the newsgroup and notice a lot of postings about chrominum picolinate. Can you guys post some info on its relevance to diabetes? Or e-mail me if you will. Thanks.

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Howdy Yourself!  I was an English teacher til I found I don’t like kids (other than my own).  Now I am a writer.  Much more time to myself and my computer.  Fairly sedentary.  Much better BG levels!  Isn’t that interesting! Mary

Hi Mary, Yep, Stress matters.  When I left News my dosage dropped about 10-20 units per day (90+am to 85) and further still when the TV station I work at now was sold to a new progressive management (85-76). Thanks! Brent

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hiya.  i extend my compliments on a great thread idea – i’ve always been wondering what other diabetics do also (no ‘everything you dummy’ replies please – i know we do everything – it’s just nice to hear it from the people who are actually doing it).  i work in a unionized (ie zero stress :) ) industrial bakery and i hate some of the ignorami that i work for so much that i ran in our last shop steward election and am now in fact a steward and a constant thorn in the side of those few idiots (most of them are normal reasonable nice honourable people) we have in management (yeah we got ‘em in the union too but that’s someone else’s problem :) ) who constantly feel that they can ignore the contract when it suits them.  much more fulfilling than just slicing bread was but i’m planning on going to school soon anyway in dietetics to become a nutritionist and hopefully get a job in a diabetes clinic to help new diabetics adjust.  that should be more fulfilling yet.  hope i don’t sound smug or arrogant – it’s just that i think i may have been clinically depressed before i got diabetes, largely due to zero exercise, burger king diet, and way too much sleep, any i haven’t felt this much hope for the future since high school. i haven’t even had diabetes for a year yet but all the exercise and the healthy food choices have just about made me feel reborn.  they’ve sure as hell made me happier and more content with myself.  i often reflect that it’s funny that it took a life threatening (if you don’t manage it that is) disease to make me happy. – jack I ain’t no politician, just worried ’bout the world condition ’cause I’m the doctor of soul and here’s my prescription: Peace, brother, peace. – Mac Rebennack, 1971

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Howdy, yourself.  I was diagnosed Type I just after my marriage 25 years ago.  I used to be a computer programmer until my job was Dilbertized.   Now I do the analysis and write cost estimates for systems that have no chance of being funded.  But at least I still have a job.  I am glad that I no longer have to go to the lab early in the morning, wait an hour to have a fasting glucose done, and then argue with the doctor that the results were meaningless because I was very angry by the time the blood was drawn.  My control is much worse since animal ultralente was taken off the market.  My doctor is moving me to a pump to combat the irregular absoption of human ultra.  Things are really much better now than they were 25 years ago.  Regards, LT.

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I’m just curious what kind of careers most here have?  Outdoor active? Office?  Emergency Response?  Shoe Sales?

Well, I’m a mother of 4 and a senior technical support engineer dealing with some of the biggest networks in the world.  I’m a pump wearer and talk about STRESS!!!   But, since being on the pump, for over a year and a half, I have seen a BIG difference in lower bGs and the flexibility with my crazy schedule can’t be beat! I work 6am to 3pm and then come home to my "other" full-time job! I, too, recommend the pump to anyone with the desire to be in "control" of their diabetes and their lives! Mary

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Howdy Yourself!  I was an English teacher til I found I don’t like kids (other than my own).  Now I am a writer.  Much more time to myself and my computer.  Fairly sedentary.  Much better BG levels!  Isn’t that interesting!   Mary

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Howdy Yourself!  I was an English teacher til I found I don’t like kids (other than my own).  Now I am a writer.  Much more time to myself and my computer.  Fairly sedentary.  Much better BG levels!  Isn’t that interesting!   Mary

I’m currently (18 years) a licensed Race and Sports Book manager in Nevada.  I have been working 70 to 80 hours a week for the last few months and have found that I have a little trouble with my bg’s when the stress is high (here comes football season).  I had a labor job, nights, in a lead smelting plant (piling 90 lb bullets) when I went to school.  I think I was in better shape then, but I don’t know what my bg was as we just had urine tests then. I also recomend a pump if anyone has a schedule like mine, 15 hour days with having to skip meals occasionally. Jack iddm 30 years, disetronic pump 3 years. Ecclesiastes 9-11  ’speed does not always win the race   nor strength the battle’ Damon Runyon  ’but that’s the way to bet them’

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Just a note to say Hello.  My name is Brent–like some other poor sot in this group–but you can call me BJ if that clears things up. I manifested type I diabetes about 6 years ago at the age of 26.   family hours). I’m just curious what kind of careers most here have?  Outdoor active? Office?  Emergency Response?  Shoe Sales?

     Ok, let’s see.  As a professional, I am a CPA.  I am also trying to get my way into sales-as a consultant sales rep for a coin sales and auction service.  I also do bookkeeping.  Yes, I have a sedentary career, but I will try to do my best to keep moving.  It is tough, after years of this to be more active and lose weight.  I am Type II since April, 1985.  I am almost 37 (9/7/59).        As far as I know, I am a 3rd generation diabetic in my family. Nobody knows if there was diabetes in my family before that.  It occurred on both sides of the family.             Roxanne —      Roxanne Goldberg, CPA | Accounting and tax services available.           tax topics:      http://www.telesphere.com/ts/rgcpa      http://www.mindspring.com/c56.html      http://geocities.com/CapitolHill/1099           netcom links page:      http://www.netcom.com/~rgcpa/rglinks.html

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Just a note to say Hello.  My name is Brent–like some other poor sot in this group–but you can call me BJ if that clears things up. I manifested type I diabetes about 6 years ago at the age of 26.  It happened right after I started work as a TV News Photographer.  I shot News for four years before moving into commercial production (better family hours). I’m just curious what kind of careers most here have?  Outdoor active? Office?  Emergency Response?  Shoe Sales?  I know a lot of non-diabetic folks look at Diabetes as a curse that cuts into activity but I’ve found the opposite to be true. (Many people I ran into during my photog years were shocked that "you do this job and you have DIABETES?"  Acting like I had heart disease or a lung missing.) I’d just like to get a feel for what others are doing with themselves. Thanks, May all your needles be sharp and straight, Brent

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